Ok, so here's what I've been thinking over the weekend (not all of it, obviously, that would just be silly). I decided to wipe the slate clean, try and cast out all prior suspicions, and approach the thread anew. So who is my biggest suspect now? Kessobahn. Yeah, I know, where did that come from? But that's exactly my point.
For one of the highest posters in the game, he sure says a whole lot of nothing. In effect, the WIFOM onslaught which he cleverly has refused to let go has masked his lack of contribution. So what do we have in terms of quotes? As a result, despite 4 pages of posts, not much....
Kessobahn, on 09 January 2012 - 07:34 PM, said:
Korlat, on 09 January 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:
It's not too late is it? If UB hasn't checked in yet isn't he still allowed to silence at any point in the day?
I believe JA said he'd ask UB for the silencing target prior to the game starting.
Near the beginning of the game he answers a question about UB. Sure, most of us knew the answer to this, but past experience tells me that scum like to talk about role mechanics, because usually they can be the most confident about what they're talking about, thus sounding helpful.
Kessobahn, on 10 January 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:
Osseric, on 10 January 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:
Fuck you Kessobahn, if you really think this is leading nowhere. It's clearly leading to mine or Okaros's lynch. ITS FUCKING DAY 1. A tad self righteous with your oh so great commitment to furthering the day 1 mafia game?
< MFW you say BB has nothing to lose being lynched day 1. The guy has 2 lives. He doesn't get to keep jumping forever. If I were BB, you could consider me mentally handicapped. As of your last post, I'll consider you as such for this game. To be put quietly to the side, where no one will listen to your shat.
So clearly BB has a lot to lose. He has potential extra days to lose, if he were to die day 1. That would be the best possible lynch for the game. UB has a lot to lose as well. He dpesn't respawn, and then there is no symp nor silence for the rest of the game.
So why the fuck would I be doing what I'm doing on day 1, if I were either of those roles? I brought up the case before anyone was accused of anything, so there is no possible symping I could be doing there. I see no possibility as to why you could think I'm scum for this. We've actually had debate on day 1.
And you call my logic flawed... damn.
the probhlem is, it's not leading to either lync the way it's sitting now.
you make an argument, based on Wifom. several people call you out on it.
your response? "well, if I was scum, i'd have to be a goddamn idiot to make this argument"--which is fine, it has more people nodding hteir heads, saying "yep, he's gotta be an idiot all right".
except..... guess what?
what you've done is just added EVEN MORE WIFOM.
so, to recap:
you want to use wifom to get a silenced player lynched.
you ALSO use wifom to avoid your own lynch.
you have done nothing but wifom the entire day. And yes, I will call you out on it every single time, because it's not helping town. iether you are scum, or if, you're town, you're not helping.
which makes you a good Day 1 lynch regardless.
This is pretty much the beginning of the WIFOM argument which we all know and hate so well. This goes on like this....and on...and on. Days later and he is still hounding Osseric. In one way, this is good, sticking to his belief, right? But he also might be accused of the same thing he himself levels at Osseric on day 1 - that he's consciously playing a certain way in order not to be perceived as scum. In this case, he is hounding one target mercilessly rather than being a bit wishy-washy and pointing fingers in several directions.
Kessobahn, on 11 January 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:
Osseric, on 11 January 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:
I think I just burned myself out on the first day. -Again- Kill me. I am target. I am healer, you should kill me.
now, really....
This quote isn't really evidence, but just imagine this being said with a little scummy smirk - easy isn't it? "Why should I kill you Osseric, my little plaything?"
Kessobahn, on 12 January 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:
i'll need to re-read atrahal. I can see where people are coming from in that he's been as non-commiting as can be during day 1, which was.... rather charged, by our standards.
fortunately, I've got an hour and a half till next class, so I can do that.
Apologies for not posting much yesterday, Wednesday when i'm scheduled to work are my bitch days (i'm out for 11+ hours of school/work), and Iwhne I came home, I just collapsed.
as for OE..... I don't really see scum. misguided townie? mebbe. not hearing scum from what i've read.
Now when it comes to anyone but Osseric, Kessobahn is non-commital to a fault. In this case, concerning Atrahal. Here the tide has begun to turn towards an Atrahal lynch, but Kesso evinces a slight unease about it - not enough to actually protest against it though. The little sidenote defense of Olar Ethil might also be significant as pointing to a scum partner.
Kessobahn, on 12 January 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:
Olar Ethil, on 12 January 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:
I remember the weird comment "Atrahal is scum" made by someone on day one. that was weird. it had no context either. hard to interpret.
i hate lynching the silenced player because without real back and forth it's mostly just us holding our dicks and arguing about where to point them.
i think the mistakes made so far about revealing, counter revealing, uncontrollable drunken antics (oh, wait...) have impaired town's ability to lynch scum this game.
that was Tiam. right b4 we lynched her
i'm back, biatcheees. and I don't intend to leave the house till tomorrow, cuz it's bloody freezing outside.
Atrahal really hasn't made much noise with gettiong us to lynch anyone other than him.
although if he comes back inno, i'ma take a long, hard look at those saying that "after such a loud day 1, it makes sense for scu to silence scum day 2".
And finally there's this post, already painting targets before the CF result on Atrahal. Not that anyone had really put forward this theory anyway (I said it ironically after Kesso's post). And Kesso is also yet to come back to us with this 'long hard look'. Instead, he resumed throwing darts at Osseric. Seriously, the Osseric stuff happens almost every post - it's like Cato at the Roman Senate finishing every speech with, "and furthermore, I believe Carthage should be destroyed." Replace Carthage with Osseric and there you have Kessobahn in a nutshell, because there isn't a whole lot else. But with that one thing, he's managed to fly under the radar entirely.
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