[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 1 hour and 6 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sukul Anandhu

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Korvalain ( Hood's Path, Galain, Sukul Anandhu )
2 Votes for Sukul Anandhu ( Olar Ethil, Emurlahn )
1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Korvalain, Omtose

[Omtose]

D, on 05 January 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 05 January 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

Galain, on 05 January 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

Vote Korvalain

That's ridiculous.

What are you calling ridiculous?

Also wondering about this.... the vote carries more weight with no explanation attached.

Galain Adressed that just above.

[Olar Ethil]

I'm here until lynch if needed.

[D'riss]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 05 January 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Whilst reading through I have some thoughts as well. First of all Ano. He makes the steal comment, when discussing factions, plays it down to two factions and the qadi - mentions khanate and nepeth and wild card.

He then goes on to berate Eloth once dead about knowing about other factions but keeping it to himself. Yet I believe Ano is not Nepeth, not Khanate and obviously not Qadi. So although it PI's him in my eyes it also casts doubt on his motivation to help town find scum and win, I think he is playing for his own reasons and not the collective.

I thought he is definately a thief/raider but he mentions khanate and no other factions so I thought thief but looking at his opening post I think that is what he wants us to believe as that would indicate he is innocent and not a Nepeth player. If he is Nepeth and he is in this for the long all then he has me convinced he's a thief.


Foolish day one fun comments regarding thieving, then mentions eloths faction break down which is similar to his own.

Attacks Galain and Korvalian yet Agrees with Emurlahn who Liosan is now making a case upon.

I'd be willing to vote for Emur to find out what faction he is in and see what connections there are.

There are not many cases out there at the moment and by not being vocal on thread people are giving the Nepeth an easy time of it.

I find this pretty damning. Seems careless. More and more I'm leaning towards SA right now for being jumpy and also not really having any strong opinions...a lot of speculation, but no real conviction (although I think he just voted recently). Sounds just like someone who might know more than the rest of us...

[D'riss]

Omtose, on 05 January 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

D, on 05 January 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 05 January 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

Galain, on 05 January 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

Vote Korvalain

That's ridiculous.

What are you calling ridiculous?

Also wondering about this.... the vote carries more weight with no explanation attached.

Galain Adressed that just above.

Ok, I missed some crossposts it seems. Let me read up.

[Sukul Ankhadu]

D, on 05 January 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 05 January 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Whilst reading through I have some thoughts as well. First of all Ano. He makes the steal comment, when discussing factions, plays it down to two factions and the qadi - mentions khanate and nepeth and wild card.

He then goes on to berate Eloth once dead about knowing about other factions but keeping it to himself. Yet I believe Ano is not Nepeth, not Khanate and obviously not Qadi. So although it PI's him in my eyes it also casts doubt on his motivation to help town find scum and win, I think he is playing for his own reasons and not the collective.

I thought he is definately a thief/raider but he mentions khanate and no other factions so I thought thief but looking at his opening post I think that is what he wants us to believe as that would indicate he is innocent and not a Nepeth player. If he is Nepeth and he is in this for the long all then he has me convinced he's a thief.


Foolish day one fun comments regarding thieving, then mentions eloths faction break down which is similar to his own.

Attacks Galain and Korvalian yet Agrees with Emurlahn who Liosan is now making a case upon.

I'd be willing to vote for Emur to find out what faction he is in and see what connections there are.

There are not many cases out there at the moment and by not being vocal on thread people are giving the Nepeth an easy time of it.

I find this pretty damning. Seems careless. More and more I'm leaning towards SA right now for being jumpy and also not really having any strong opinions...a lot of speculation, but no real conviction (although I think he just voted recently). Sounds just like someone who might know more than the rest of us...

I was linking Ano with Emur that is why.

It is easy to point a finger at me D'riss. It's not like I can pull a whole lot of your posts up and analyse them is it. You stayed low and have up'd your activity now towards lynch time. Smell blood at all? If we lynch wrong today then depending on what happens tonight it'll be D day tomorrow

edit no to Ano

This post has been edited by Sukul Ankhadu: 05 January 2012 - 10:48 PM

[Liosan]

Hello, I'm back before timeout as promised. I have checked the current vote count, but nothing that has led to it since my last post. I still have over an hour to read up, yes?

[Olar Ethil]

Personally, I think the Case on Korv holds less water, but I guess I would switch. I am hesitant because I completely understood where he was coming from. It seems silly that he has to preface an OBSERVATION with something that probably all of us agree upon. I think SA has acted much more scum like so am more confident with the vote. I have no real read on Korv, but as many have pointed out, he vanished... which is somewhat disturbing. If we do lynch him and he comes back Nepeth I am sure I will catch hell. ( and I probably wouldn't blame you as I reread this post it sounds like I am symping the shit out of him.).

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 45 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sukul Anandhu

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Korvalain ( Hood's Path, Galain, Sukul Anandhu )
2 Votes for Sukul Anandhu ( Olar Ethil, Emurlahn )
1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Korvalain, Omtose

[Olar Ethil]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 05 January 2012 - 10:48 PM, said:

D, on 05 January 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 05 January 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Whilst reading through I have some thoughts as well. First of all Ano. He makes the steal comment, when discussing factions, plays it down to two factions and the qadi - mentions khanate and nepeth and wild card.

He then goes on to berate Eloth once dead about knowing about other factions but keeping it to himself. Yet I believe Ano is not Nepeth, not Khanate and obviously not Qadi. So although it PI's him in my eyes it also casts doubt on his motivation to help town find scum and win, I think he is playing for his own reasons and not the collective.

I thought he is definately a thief/raider but he mentions khanate and no other factions so I thought thief but looking at his opening post I think that is what he wants us to believe as that would indicate he is innocent and not a Nepeth player. If he is Nepeth and he is in this for the long all then he has me convinced he's a thief.


Foolish day one fun comments regarding thieving, then mentions eloths faction break down which is similar to his own.

Attacks Galain and Korvalian yet Agrees with Emurlahn who Liosan is now making a case upon.

I'd be willing to vote for Emur to find out what faction he is in and see what connections there are.

There are not many cases out there at the moment and by not being vocal on thread people are giving the Nepeth an easy time of it.

I find this pretty damning. Seems careless. More and more I'm leaning towards SA right now for being jumpy and also not really having any strong opinions...a lot of speculation, but no real conviction (although I think he just voted recently). Sounds just like someone who might know more than the rest of us...

I was linking Ano with Emur that is why.

It is easy to point a finger at me D'riss. It's not like I can pull a whole lot of your posts up and analyse them is it. You stayed low and have up'd your activity now towards lynch time. Smell blood at all? If we lynch wrong today then depending on what happens tonight it'll be D day tomorrow

edit no to Ano

How is he smelling blood when someone that isn't you is sitting at L-3. Defensive much? You only have 2 votes on you. Nice scare tactics to keep people from voting you. I am more confident with my vote every time you post.

[D'riss]

Hood, on 05 January 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

D, on 05 January 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 05 January 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

Hood, on 05 January 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

I think that apart from all the things already mentioned it is also noteworthy that the train on Serc picked up when HP changed his vote to him and thus removed his vote from Omtose, who was the only alternative to Serc that came up during day 1.

Now this, THIS is gold.

What Korv is saying here is that people were inclined to follow my vote onto Serc and what he is implying is that I am some sort of known role that other players know as if I were their faction leader in a typical merc game. I am not and they don"t and as far as I am aware there is no reason to think ANYONE in the game knows anyone else. But Korv doesn"t think so. To him the idea of another player knowing me isn"t unusual at all. If it was, he would have felt the need to explain it more thoroughly but he didn"t - he felt he could just point at the concept"s general direction and that everyone would get that.

Why does he subconsciously not bother to have to explain that? Well because he himelf does have role-PM knowledge of another character or even off-thread communications with them. To him its perfectly natural that that would be in this game, but for most of us I believe that is not the case and we would not so easily assume others would know what we are implying from pointing out a vague train shift following a vote switch.

Now who do you think would have knowledge or off-thread comms with another player? Well in most town v scum games it is the scum, whom the Nepeth most closely match. Going by the factions and roles of this game, it makes sense the Nepeth armies would be working together and so would know or talk to each other. But I don"t see much of a bond between merchants of various houses, khansmen of different clans, street orphans or an immortal Qadi. So if Korv has this knowledge, which I think he does, then he is Nepeth.

Vote Korvalain

This is really weird. Korv just made an observation, and HP really over reacts here. In many faction games the "scum" faction know eachother. I wouldn't be surprised if some Nepath knew one another. The funny thing is, that I think this post makes HP look more non nepath. Not because of what he says, (because I do think he is over reacting and Korv actually had a good point), but of how he reacts. It doesn't even cross his mind that Nepath might know one another. to me this is telling and drops HP down on my list of possible Nepath.

His post however, doesn't sway me one way or another on Korv being scummy as, to me, he made a really good observation.

I agree with pretty much all of this except how does it clear HP? HP way overplayed his hand on his weak Korvalain case, and he goes out of his way to explain the little details. In fact, by bringing it up so clearly it's like he's trying to accuse Korv of what HP is being accused of. Korv says HP's vote might have swung the lynch and it's possible others knew he was on their team, and HP's accusation is that EVERYONE already knows that, so now that he's explained what everyone is assuming....vote Korv? Makes no sense to me.

Nope. Korv wasn"t even much accusing me, he was more accusing Omtose in his noting that the train was eager to switch away from Omtose. But even if you take it as him accusing me, it is a completely different accusation than what I leveled back at him so your sentence makes no sense.

Er, he was? I don't see any posts of him accusing Omtose of anything. It seemed to me he was saying the lynchpin (PUN!) of the Serc train was when you switched from Omtose to Serc. Your reasoning for your accusation was that he was assuming some Nepeth players would know each other...and then you went on to explain how obvious that is and it's suspicious that Korv didn't explain how obvious it was. Then you vote Korv. Makes. No. Sense.

Otherwise I'm quite confused.

[Omtose]

I'm not really liking SA right now either. gotta go grab a bite, back in 20.

[Korvalain]

Sorry for having been gone for so long. I bumped into some friends I haven't seen for a while and they insisted on me being social and all.

Hood, on 05 January 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

I think that apart from all the things already mentioned it is also noteworthy that the train on Serc picked up when HP changed his vote to him and thus removed his vote from Omtose, who was the only alternative to Serc that came up during day 1.

Now this, THIS is gold.

What Korv is saying here is that people were inclined to follow my vote onto Serc and what he is implying is that I am some sort of known role that other players know as if I were their faction leader in a typical merc game. I am not and they don"t and as far as I am aware there is no reason to think ANYONE in the game knows anyone else. But Korv doesn"t think so. To him the idea of another player knowing me isn"t unusual at all. If it was, he would have felt the need to explain it more thoroughly but he didn"t - he felt he could just point at the concept"s general direction and that everyone would get that.

Why does he subconsciously not bother to have to explain that? Well because he himelf does have role-PM knowledge of another character or even off-thread communications with them. To him its perfectly natural that that would be in this game, but for most of us I believe that is not the case and we would not so easily assume others would know what we are implying from pointing out a vague train shift following a vote switch.

Now who do you think would have knowledge or off-thread comms with another player? Well in most town v scum games it is the scum, whom the Nepeth most closely match. Going by the factions and roles of this game, it makes sense the Nepeth armies would be working together and so would know or talk to each other. But I don"t see much of a bond between merchants of various houses, khansmen of different clans, street orphans or an immortal Qadi. So if Korv has this knowledge, which I think he does, then he is Nepeth.

Vote Korvalain

I have seen that some players have commented on this already, but I want to explain my train of thought.
HPs vote was the one that made the train on serc really pick up. I thought it possible that it was either mere chance or because he knew who is on his team and it was neither Serc or Omtose and after his vote on Omtose was leading to nothing useful he decided to change to Serc, or that he was actually had some form of leading role that other players of his faction knew and followed.

As for his accusation against me. Really? We often see that scum know each other or one leading player of their faction. It is not unusual at all.



Right now, between Omtose and SA, I like SA better for a lynch as there seem to be more weird post from him, than from Omtose, whose major flaw is to have next no content in his post. I guess if I has Nepeth he would try for more content. So for now, I will

vote Sukul Ankhadu


but I would change it to Omtose, if needed.

[Korvalain]

Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

Sorry for having been gone for so long. I bumped into some friends I haven't seen for a while and they insisted on me being social and all.

Hood, on 05 January 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 05 January 2012 - 11:08 AM, said:

I think that apart from all the things already mentioned it is also noteworthy that the train on Serc picked up when HP changed his vote to him and thus removed his vote from Omtose, who was the only alternative to Serc that came up during day 1.

Now this, THIS is gold.

What Korv is saying here is that people were inclined to follow my vote onto Serc and what he is implying is that I am some sort of known role that other players know as if I were their faction leader in a typical merc game. I am not and they don"t and as far as I am aware there is no reason to think ANYONE in the game knows anyone else. But Korv doesn"t think so. To him the idea of another player knowing me isn"t unusual at all. If it was, he would have felt the need to explain it more thoroughly but he didn"t - he felt he could just point at the concept"s general direction and that everyone would get that.

Why does he subconsciously not bother to have to explain that? Well because he himelf does have role-PM knowledge of another character or even off-thread communications with them. To him its perfectly natural that that would be in this game, but for most of us I believe that is not the case and we would not so easily assume others would know what we are implying from pointing out a vague train shift following a vote switch.

Now who do you think would have knowledge or off-thread comms with another player? Well in most town v scum games it is the scum, whom the Nepeth most closely match. Going by the factions and roles of this game, it makes sense the Nepeth armies would be working together and so would know or talk to each other. But I don"t see much of a bond between merchants of various houses, khansmen of different clans, street orphans or an immortal Qadi. So if Korv has this knowledge, which I think he does, then he is Nepeth.

Vote Korvalain

I have seen that some players have commented on this already, but I want to explain my train of thought.
HPs vote was the one that made the train on serc really pick up. I thought it possible that it was either mere chance or because he knew who is on his team and it was neither Serc or Omtose and after his vote on Omtose was leading to nothing useful he decided to change to Serc, or that he was actually had some form of leading role that other players of his faction knew and followed.

Right now I think it the most likely to have been by chance.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 35 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sukul Anandhu

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Sukul Anandhu ( Olar Ethil, Emurlahn, Korvalain )
1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Liosan )
3 Votes for Korvalain ( Hood's Path, Galain, Sukul Anandhu )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Omtose

[Sukul Ankhadu]

Olar Ethil, on 05 January 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 05 January 2012 - 10:48 PM, said:

D, on 05 January 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 05 January 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Whilst reading through I have some thoughts as well. First of all Ano. He makes the steal comment, when discussing factions, plays it down to two factions and the qadi - mentions khanate and nepeth and wild card.

He then goes on to berate Eloth once dead about knowing about other factions but keeping it to himself. Yet I believe Ano is not Nepeth, not Khanate and obviously not Qadi. So although it PI's him in my eyes it also casts doubt on his motivation to help town find scum and win, I think he is playing for his own reasons and not the collective.

I thought he is definately a thief/raider but he mentions khanate and no other factions so I thought thief but looking at his opening post I think that is what he wants us to believe as that would indicate he is innocent and not a Nepeth player. If he is Nepeth and he is in this for the long all then he has me convinced he's a thief.


Foolish day one fun comments regarding thieving, then mentions eloths faction break down which is similar to his own.

Attacks Galain and Korvalian yet Agrees with Emurlahn who Liosan is now making a case upon.

I'd be willing to vote for Emur to find out what faction he is in and see what connections there are.

There are not many cases out there at the moment and by not being vocal on thread people are giving the Nepeth an easy time of it.

I find this pretty damning. Seems careless. More and more I'm leaning towards SA right now for being jumpy and also not really having any strong opinions...a lot of speculation, but no real conviction (although I think he just voted recently). Sounds just like someone who might know more than the rest of us...

I was linking Ano with Emur that is why.

It is easy to point a finger at me D'riss. It's not like I can pull a whole lot of your posts up and analyse them is it. You stayed low and have up'd your activity now towards lynch time. Smell blood at all? If we lynch wrong today then depending on what happens tonight it'll be D day tomorrow

edit no to Ano

How is he smelling blood when someone that isn't you is sitting at L-3. Defensive much? You only have 2 votes on you. Nice scare tactics to keep people from voting you. I am more confident with my vote every time you post.

That's easy for you to say, you're not the one up for discussion. Would you rather me self vote and hurt town further? Obviously i'm going to defend myself. I cannot counter attack because you have had the mantle 24 hours so there is nothing for me to go on there, D'riss has made a few posts but nothing that stands out, Omtose has been away with RL issues and the only other people who have actually been playing the game are voting elsewhere. I have no read on you three. You and D'riss could easily just as well be Nepeth trying to persuade people to lynch me knowing i'm town and knowing it will help you further.At this minute it probably would be best for town to lynch me just to see my alt etc. That way you'll have a lot of information to go off. The only problem I have with that is a)i didn't want to die and b if you lynch wrong tomorrow it's game over but you have to lynch otherwise its also game over. (depending on the two death scenario). I wish we had a finder who looked me up, maybe that's why Korvalian is being accused with his case because somebody found something, but that wouldn't be a possibility would it?

[Liosan]

Wow, ok. First of all

Remove Vote

so I don't pull a Tapper and vote close to lynch without removing first.

Between Sukul and Korv, who seem to be the cases put forward now, my gut tells me Sukul is the place to vote. His support of my case last night was pretty innocuous at the time, so I didn't think anything of it. But let's face it, it wasn't the greatest of cases. Sukul has been being very careful with his vote (although now it's cast in self-preservation). Yet he liked my case (not enough to actually vote on it though). He seems to be looking for a sure thing to happen, making sure not to lead the train.

I'm all for being careful with votes, but that combined with how he reacted to being pushed didn't sit well on my reread.

[Galain]

Hey, look who showed up.

As of right now, SA is definitely super suspicious. That being said, Korva showing up actually makes his odds of being scum greater, not less. He showed up once he got pressure and gives excuses. Maybe they're true, but there's no guarantee. If Korva hadn't shown up at all for a few more minutes (I just got home) I would have removed my vote from him and gone after SA or Omtose.

My actual reason for voting you, just so you know, was to get some actual pressure going (1 vote doesn't count for shit) to see if you decided to show back up. The reasons for voting you from HP weren't important, your seeming reaction to them was.

Since he's shown up, I'm pretty sure my vote is staying where it is.

If we do lynch Korva, and he comes up non Nepeth, HP looks suspicious as fuck for derailing one of the other two people, and one of them would likely being Nepeth as well.
Does that all make sense? I don't think I'm completely off-base here.

[Path-Shaper]

Tapper doesn't mind other people pulling a Tapper... imitation is after all the most sincere form of flattery.

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It is Day 2. 27 minutes remaining

10 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Sukul Anandhu

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Sukul Anandhu ( Olar Ethil, Emurlahn, Korvalain )
3 Votes for Korvalain ( Hood's Path, Galain, Sukul Anandhu )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Liosan, Omtose

[D'riss]

Omtose, on 05 January 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

I'm not really liking SA right now either. gotta go grab a bite, back in 20.

I want to hear HP's response to our little back-and-forth before I vote, because in my eyes this puts you in the mix more than I thought before. Gotta grab a bite, eh? Not spending much time playing the game, as others have said. This is some really ridiculous speculation, but if some Nepeth knew each other and then saw HP vote Omtose, wait till another lynch train started to form, and then followed along.... could even be signaling. I realize the entire case on Omtose is just the low-posting no-content sing-a-long mafia play-style, but fuck me if he's not scummy.