[Sukul Ankhadu]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 04 January 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 January 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Another sip. “I think that is enough about the Qadi, for now. The Nepeth were first spotted by a Black Stallion scout, sent by the Khan-of-Khans to monitor the White Foal war-effort. It is hard to catch a Khanate rider when he does not want to be caught, but apparently he was caught between two armies. Later that day, an orphanage was laid waste to, leaving no survivors. The Nepeth certainly made their presence and their strength at arms known, and panic spread throughout the Southern Sands.”


Telas (HD) is dead. He was Shenoshka, Outrider of the Black Stallion Clan of the Khanate

The Nepeth killed Telas who was a finder? He didn't get a chance to report his findings?

This also compensates for the death of Eloth. He was in the orphanage.

So the Qadi killed someone and then died due to lynching, Telas and Eloth where involved in a battle in which they lost.

[Anomandaris]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 04 January 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

Liosan, on 04 January 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Holy shit. This could be a fast game.....


Edited to add: Helluva lynch though.

We lynched JA

ha ha

Sorry JA!!

All those deaths in one night! Then there were ten. In fact it isn't even night yet it? This could be over by Friday at this rate. I am surprised at that outcome

Dunno about this response SA. I'm am less than happy that we have lost 4 of our non-Nepeth numbers, and we still have night to be resolved with its assassinations. You are on my radar for tomorrow.

[Liosan]

Telas' involvement sounds involuntary, like he went out on a find and got caught. I'm guessing that's just artistic license though.

Whoever attacked the orphanage is Nepath, and is the one unidentifiable actor in that scene (as in, they didn't die, so they won the battle, and there's a fair likelihood they started it too).

[Sukul Ankhadu]

Anomandaris, on 04 January 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 04 January 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

Liosan, on 04 January 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Holy shit. This could be a fast game.....


Edited to add: Helluva lynch though.

We lynched JA

ha ha

Sorry JA!!

All those deaths in one night! Then there were ten. In fact it isn't even night yet it? This could be over by Friday at this rate. I am surprised at that outcome

Dunno about this response SA. I'm am less than happy that we have lost 4 of our non-Nepeth numbers, and we still have night to be resolved with its assassinations. You are on my radar for tomorrow.

That's fine by me, I always react that way to that much violence and death. This with the combination of lynching the "Qadi" who is also JA who also killed during that scene is a good result. What bothers me is the other deaths and no Nepeth deaths yet. I was around and waiting for lynch resolution so I didn't expect that to happen. In fact I thought there might not be any deaths tonight with people having to buy things and sell things and upgrade and stuff, I thought this was going to be a long drawn out game but exciting and amazing nonetheless and then PS comes out and lays 4 deaths in one night, all I can say is WOW!!

[Sukul Ankhadu]

Anomandaris, on 02 January 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

it also seems silly to have 2 thieves in a power struggle between the houses, khanate, and nepeth. I was thinking more of a three way struggle between these factions with another small wild card faction thrown in for kicks (would work well with a 14 person game)

Just throwing this out there Ano because I have just noticed this and realised you were playing.

You seem to know a little here, maybe this post coupled with what happened during Dusk may throw you in a bad light. Also you appear just after lynch and battle scene to make one comment on my reaction when you have said nothing of interest for the majority of the game. Yeah good one. Did you know what was going to happen?

[Anomandaris]

Kind of hard to provide solid ideas without taking time to look back through everything (which takes time) as opposed to the easier quick snipe and deflection.

Eloth, on 02 January 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Yep, I agree, I would say not all the factions (or even most of them) are present here.

At a guess, to judge from the OP, I would say Nepeth army faction (rather than the court etc.) has representatives in this game; the Qadi of Loathing, Tarkin the Bitter-Hearted is here also; the White Foal Clan of the Khanates; and some people from the Houses of Agreement.

Of the last, I'm not sure whether to think that they're all from the House of Magic like Delat (who we know is here because of the scene where he bought the Tax Collector title), or representatives from various houses.

This above quote was interesting in light that Eloth was of the Night Faction as an orphan. Already trying to mislead us and remain in the background. I am still sifting through the prior day looking for other such things, just to see if anyone else was starting ideas that may be misinformation to their advantage.

Galain, on 03 January 2012 - 01:58 AM, said:

The Qadi can probably still vote. Not counting towards voting parity would just mean that if there are 11 people left, 5 nepeth, 1 qadi, the nepeth have parity because qadi doesn't count.

Or maybe he can't vote. But that seems too obvious.

Also something to note that a Qadi's vote counts since Serc hammered himself.

Eloth, on 03 January 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 03 January 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

Telas, on 03 January 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

No. Just trying to draw out information. I think Qadi is one player as I've previously stated and the most powerful and mysterious.

Telas, on 03 January 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

Seriously Sukul? I'm sorry, but you seem to be unnecessarily complicating this very much so.

You are trying to bait me to gain information. You aren't providing much of your own. I'm trying to work out what the set up is. I know the goal is to find and eliminate the Nepeth. That's simple. How many Nepeth? We won't know that until we work out how many factions are in the game and how many players within each faction. Mafia is never simple, so rather than attack why don't you offer a little more in the way of what you think?

And what, you think you can work that out right now? We've already had at least a half dozen attempts to work out possible factions (including myself) and, until the game progresses and people start falling, I don't think we can go further with the speculation than we already have.

It's pretty certain the Nepeth, White Foal, probs 2 of the Houses of Agreement, and a Qadi are involved. Distribution wise it's frankly anyone's guess at this point. I would assume that the first three are fairly even in terms of numbers. But as I said, things need to start happening before we can work out more. This role distribution posting is starting to look like going in circles.

Again, note worth in that Eloth knew there were other factions, and yet seems to be solidifying the concept of a 4 faction game.

Kaschan, on 03 January 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

Serc, on 03 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Back.

My 2 cents on the settings:

The description that the Napeth with "if they achieve voting parity" sounds basically like the scum in a normal game. Everyone else has the same objective, to eliminate them, sounding like the standard "innos", the different factions being there just for flavor and storytelling.

This originally suggested a "normal game" balance of around 3 "scums" (in this case Napeth) and the rest different factions, the ratio of which is not that important for the victory conditions considering that they have a common objective.

However, this assumes that, like in normal games, the Napeth would be killing at night, and with some exceptions the rest wouldn't. I don't get this feeling based on the faction descriptions (i.e. I don't see why the Napeth would be the main "killers" in the game), so this balance might not hold. In such a case, maybe there could be more of the Napeth around, such as 4 or 5. With all this RPG stuff going around, I also get a feeling that NKs will be limited, because if 2 people die by day/night cycle, the game will be relatively short (5-6 days more or less), and this will limit the amount of "actions" and other cool stuff we can do.

That said, I also don't see the point of lynching today. Well, I could, but I honestly am not sure what to "look" for.

Strange stuff.

Okay I don't have a whole lot to go on and I really need to be doing something other than mafia right about now but I agree that we have to approach this game like a standard scum versus town game where voting for a lynch is a must for "town". As you are advocating that you don't see the point of a lynch then me thinks that you are a Nepath player and therefore need to go the way of the dodo.

vote Serc

Finally, just wanted to point out that Kaschan was the first to vote for the Qadi, and hence was nuked. That explains that death.

[Path-Shaper]

Ok, resolution may take a tiny bit longer as I have to sift through a LOT of PMs.

I'll send everyone a PM contained Storage @ Dusk, this should reflect the contents of your storage as well as Treasury.
Then, I will send night actions out, and everyone with a modified Storage/Treasury after night will get another PM.

[Anomandaris]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 04 January 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 02 January 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

it also seems silly to have 2 thieves in a power struggle between the houses, khanate, and nepeth. I was thinking more of a three way struggle between these factions with another small wild card faction thrown in for kicks (would work well with a 14 person game)

Just throwing this out there Ano because I have just noticed this and realised you were playing.

You seem to know a little here, maybe this post coupled with what happened during Dusk may throw you in a bad light. Also you appear just after lynch and battle scene to make one comment on my reaction when you have said nothing of interest for the majority of the game. Yeah good one. Did you know what was going to happen?

You obviously don't read much without commenting. I have made some salient remarks on the bazaar, and also was with the rest of the people trying to figure out how many factions and people per faction were in play (btw, I now believe all seven factions are present, with 2 people in each factions except for the Qadi with 1 and the Nepeth with 3).

As for the thieving comment, actually I was just foolishly having some day 1 fun (saw the hobbes emoticon and thought "hey there is a Kalvin one two! I can be clever!" sorry for being clever).

And finally, I don't see how commenting right after a battle scene is relevant (unless one is trying to subtly inject meta), especially when I was more interested in your excitement and lack of distress at how we may be now 3 vs 7 as opposed to 3 vs 11 in day 1. We have another day like this, and we are pushing on D-day's boundaries.

[Anomandaris]

Serc, on 04 January 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

Liosan, on 04 January 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

Aaaaaand, cross post.

@Sukul

Reveals are strictly forbidden in this game, so I'm not sure what he would say at this point. I wish he had voted someone earlier on in the day, since taht could have perhaps yielded something more information-wise.

I can't reveal, but I can do the next best thing.

For the record, I didn't plan this, but seeing how things went, I have to make do. There's a bit of time left, but I have to go, and I'm not going through another day like this. I prefer not to miss the lynch, this way is better for us all game-wise (and no, I'm not turning emo):


vote Serc.

As for his hammer, I guess that the first person voting and the person hammering a Qadi both would have died. That was why he hammered himself (thank you JA btw)

[Sukul Ankhadu]

Anomandaris, on 04 January 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

You obviously don't read much without commenting. I have made some salient remarks on the bazaar, and also was with the rest of the people trying to figure out how many factions and people per faction were in play (btw, I now believe all seven factions are present, with 2 people in each factions except for the Qadi with 1 and the Nepeth with 3).

As for the thieving comment, actually I was just foolishly having some day 1 fun (saw the hobbes emoticon and thought "hey there is a Kalvin one two! I can be clever!" sorry for being clever).

And finally, I don't see how commenting right after a battle scene is relevant (unless one is trying to subtly inject meta), especially when I was more interested in your excitement and lack of distress at how we may be now 3 vs 7 as opposed to 3 vs 11 in day 1. We have another day like this, and we are pushing on D-day's boundaries.

That is more distressing looking at those figures. I was just excited about all the deaths as they took me by surprise. Again I just had it in my head that it'd be days before we see any night deaths. Another day like that Ano and it is game over but I don't think there'd be 4 deaths again. Take away the Qadi and there would have been 2 deaths only. So Qadi gone now is a good thing compared to him dying later on and 4 deaths taking us by surprise!!

[Galain]

Serc, on 04 January 2012 - 06:15 AM, said:

Galain, on 04 January 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:

Hmm. Looking at who has votes...

Serc because he alludes to wanting to no-lynch. Omtose because he reiterates what everyone else has been saying. Hmm.

Vote Serc

I'm voting Serc because he seems somewhat scummy. Omtose does seem like he is just trying to sound helpful, but that could be true of someone who is a tad overwhelmed. I know that happened to a few people in D'rek's last game.

I won't be around for time out, unfortunately.

This is what I'm talking about, when I say that someone who is playing carefully would basically only repeat things that have been said before without raising reactions.

Line 2: the two votes and the reason for them. No reason to look somewhere else and to say something original. No mention of Olar Ethil, who also has a vote, because he's not sure why he got his vote and is not bothered to go back and check. Either that or he's not sure and is afraid that saying something not perfectly correct will get a second look from others

Line 4: Vote for me, but not for the reason he said above, because even though no-one yet said that I might not be completely wrong doesn't mean that someone won't in the future, so voting me for that reason means taking a position compared to what I said. Instead I'm just "somewhat scummy", which no-one can argue. Followed by a condescending slight defense for someone, always makes you feel like people will like you when you do something like this.

You're clearly an idiot. I'm catching up and I really hope you got lynched. Would you prefer I just drop a vote without reiterating the reasons? I was part of the original discussion, so don't try to tell me I'm not contributing. I didn't mention Olar Ethil, because 1 of her votes was a joke, the other was because of inactivity. Tapper said earlier that he had a replacement, so I decided to leave her alone for now.

I voted for you for the exact reason I stated above... I didn't put any stock in the snazziest armour bit. I was put off by your one post, then most of your other posts just made you seem more scummy. There was no slight defense of anyone. I was stating why I voted you over Omtose. Everything in my post is completely founded off what I've previously said.

[Galain]

Path-Shaper, on 04 January 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Abdul al-Adil, the Collector of Fables, did elect to show up for his second audience. He even brought paper and a brush. A courtesy to me, I think, if I recall yesterday’s glazed-over look in his eyes whenever it addressed matters of background.

I sit down, a cup of raki within reach. Abdul folds his legs, spreads his paper. “When we left yesterday, I mentioned Tarkin the Bitter-Hearted.”

“Yes,” he says. He is a careful man.

“I am sure you have questions on the subject of the Qadi,” I reply, goading him to steer the discussion.

“I hear he died shortly after his arrival, without accomplishing much.”

“My dear Abdul,” – he flinches – “Qadi do not die. But it seems we must start our discussion of the events taking place in the first days of the war with a bit more background.”

I take a sip. “Tarkin arrived in Ishktar on the day of the invasion. Unfortunately, the local elite were not too impressed with him, mostly due to his manner of conduct – he is the Qadi of Loathing, after all - and they refused to co-operate. Since Tarkin is not a man who takes refusal very well, the discussion took a volatile turn. I think you can imagine how the average merchant reacts when he is asked to turn his merchandise and funds towards war-making, without much recompensation.
When the elite of Ishktar was less than forthcoming, events spiraled out of control and the Qadi was beset by an angry mob, lead by a slaver of House Meshkir, going by the name of Omar ibn Deshmar. Tarkin obliterated most of them, including the merchant, but was finally overtaken, dismembered, his remains burnt, contained in several pots, and in an act of defiance, his pickled head was sent to me. The jar and the head are available for your inspection, if you wish. It was a rather fetching jar, I think.”

“Khalif, doesn’t that mean that he is dead, and accomplished little?”

“His further exploits are perhaps for another day, but to a Qadi, being torn apart and cremated is merely a minor setback. I’m confident he has grown a new head, too. I will concede that the time required to restore himself was unfortunate with regard to his war effort, however.”

Another sip. “I think that is enough about the Qadi, for now. The Nepeth were first spotted by a Black Stallion scout, sent by the Khan-of-Khans to monitor the White Foal war-effort. It is hard to catch a Khanate rider when he does not want to be caught, but apparently he was caught between two armies. Later that day, an orphanage was laid waste to, leaving no survivors. The Nepeth certainly made their presence and their strength at arms known, and panic spread throughout the Southern Sands.”

I will take a short break, my dear Abdul, but I will be back later. I am sure you will want to scribble something down on that scroll of yours. It is still remarkably pristine.”


Serc (JA) is dead. He is Tarkin the Bitter-Hearted, Qadi of Loathing.
Kaschan (twelve) is dead. He was Omar ibn Deshmar, Caravan-Leader of the Houses of Agreement.
Telas (HD) is dead. He was Shenoshka, Outrider of the Black Stallion Clan of the Khanate
Eloth (Khellendros) is dead. He was the Orphan of the Desert, of the Night Prophet faction.


---

I'll get to sending you all the administration on purchases, production et cetera in the next two/three hours, as well as resolving night.

Okay, so Serc is dead because we voted him. Not sure how I feel about that. Kaschan is dead because he was the first to vote Serc, probably the power of the Qadi. Telas was attacked by two armies, so his death was a battle action. Eloth is dead because he was attacked as well by the Nepeth. I wonder powers he had...

[Path-Shaper]

After having a quick bite of deliciously cooked fish, freshly caught in the articial palace lake, I slip into something a bit more comfortable than my robes of state. All in all, an hour after I left him, I return to the audience room, where the Collector of Fables is admiring the contents of a ribbed silver urn. Tarkin's head lies within.

"My Khalif, I have one more question pertaining the death of Tarkin the Bitter-Hearted."

"Temporary disability, Collector of Fables. If you had taken notes, you would have read by now that I insist on Tarkin being alive, because that is what he is." The last words could cut through bones. It is my Qadi of Cold Justice voice, rather than my I-am-indulging-you-because-I-find-you-a-decent-distraction-from-the-bother-of-daily-life friendly voice.

He stammers. He falls to his knees. He clutches his throat. His heart clenches and stops beating. I vaguely entertain the notion of making him also soil his pants but then, I have to sit through at the least five more minutes with him and I don't really find the humiliation of a scribe pissing himself worth the smell. I release him, give him a beaming, encouraging smile. "Oh my, it seems I upset you. Well, I am sure that will not happen again."
He wipes the sweat from his ash-grey forehead, swallows the bile that had arisen in his throat and picks up his brush. Well, at the least that little demonstration of strength produced one positive effect.

"You had a question?" I ask, arcing one brow.

"Yes, my Khalif. The Qadi, what happened to his Djinn?"

"I think someone picked it up and offered it for sale."

"But... the famous Nehut, the Voice of Vengeance? For sale?"

"Merchants..." I roll my eyes. "No sense of self-preservation, only of profit. Oh well, I doubt any of them could use it at that time, so it really is irrelevant to our tale. Please, my dear Abdul, you might want to dip that brush into ink, yes?"

I snap my fingers, allow a handmaiden to take my tea away to my private balcony. I look forward to a night of gazing at the stars.

"There is nothing much to tell, really, so I'm sorry for keeping you here for so long, but I am sure you found Tarkin just fascinating. Hmm, what to say? Ah, the Khanate. The White Foal responded, but their retaliation wasn't as staunch as the Nepeth's initiation of hostilities. They did what they do best: raid and squable. Apparently, their Tar-Khan was supposed to lead their host, but... she is so young. A sweet girl no doubt, but she has to control the Ghost in the Night and the Terror of the Sands, and I doubt those two listen much to her qhwn she stamps her foot. There is a moving piece on Khaheris being staged in the Vizier's Taberna, by the way, if you wish to learn more of that legendary raider. I am sure it is not really authentic nor anywhere close near the historic truth, but it should appeal to someone interested in collecting fables, I think."

I rise, and just as I expected, he doesn't dare tell me that he is the author of that particular play. I leave him, but not without telling him that I expect him to attend to me tomorrow.

It is now Dawn. No-one has died.

[Galain]

Okay so everyone figured my above post out before I got there.

I just read over yesterday's stuff, and the only thing that jumped out at me was HP really railing Omtose. I wish one of them had died to give us some information.

[Galain]

So a Black stallion clan member (I like the idea of him being a finder) died, and the white foal clan responded not in battle but in raiding, no assassination, no mention of thieves.

"Ghost in the night" and "Terror in the sands" are mentioned as being under the direction of the Tar-Khan, who apparently leads the White Foal clan. The Ghost seems like the name of a raider, and the Terror seems like the name of a warrior, in my opinion.

[Galain]

It also looks either:

A) Someone obtained the Qadi's djinn, and put it on the bazaar

or

B An NPC obtained it and put it on the bazaar.

edit: Stupid smiley face.

This post has been edited by Galain: 04 January 2012 - 02:31 PM

[Path-Shaper]

The Bazaar has the following goods for sale:

TBA

The Bazaar offers to buy the following:

TBA

Items, Retainers, Titles (see page 1, post #9 for description:
Al-Shazar's Bag of Plenty (1): 13000 dinari
Addas' Spyglass (1): 17000 dinari
Amaq's Torn-out Tearduct (1): 17000 dinari
Water Clock (4): 4000 dinari
Peasant Levy (10): 6000 dinari
Mercenary Irregulars (7): 10000 dinari
Court Eunuch (2): 10000 dinari
Governor of Ishktar Oasis (1): 22000 dinari

New items:

Nehut, The Voice of Vengeance's Barrel of Blood.: 25000 dinari (value: 16000 dinari)
Until you summon Nehut, The Voice of Vengeance, you cannot have bullet proofs or lynch proofs and you cannot be healed.
Summoning Nehut requires 3 Slaves, 5000 dinari, 1 Jewelry and 2 Weapons.

Quote

Nehut, the Voice of Vengeance.
Retainer. Djinn.
Combat Rating: 4
Recruit Cost: -
Leadership Requirement: 0
Water Consumption: 0
Special 1: while you control Nehut, you gain +2 Command.
Special 2: while you control Nehut, you can attack other players during the battle phase as if you were a General.
Special 3: target a player. He must Raid, Attack or Assassinate you, if he is able.
Special 4:Nehut adds his Combat rating to yours when you are the target of an Assassination.
"Nehut whispers, and if his voice reaches your ear, it removes what comfort and compassion you might have with those who wronged you once. Instead, you seek to return the pain you once felt tenfold. Few live long enough to right all their wrongs this way." - The Khalif, Qadi of Cold Justice.

Throwing Dagger .:9000 dinari, (value: 3000)
Destroy Throwing Dagger. Start an assassination against target player.


Contracts:
2000 dinari for the first player to put armor on the bazaar. withdrawn.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 January 2012 - 02:37 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Please note: it is still dawn, so you can submit dawn actions and upgrades. I'll be going afk for a cup of tea and a shower, will start the day when back +/- 1 hour.

[Galain]

Wow someone definitely wants that djinn. You forgot to put a price on him, though, PS.

edit: You fixed it as I was posting this.

This post has been edited by Galain: 04 January 2012 - 02:35 PM

[Galain]

Looking closer, it appears that the person who bought the tax collector of the south title is toast, because it's back on the market.

Also, I see a new item, throwing dagger. Looks dangerous...

The Nehut of Vengeance guy looks crazy dangerous. Really expensive though.

edit: The tax collector must have been an error because it's gone now.

This post has been edited by Galain: 04 January 2012 - 02:41 PM