Malazan Empire: Mafia 79.75: The Nepeth Drought - Malazan Empire

Jump to content

  • 33 Pages +
  • « First
  • 9
  • 10
  • 11
  • 12
  • 13
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Mafia 79.75: The Nepeth Drought Tales of the Desert 0.33

#201 User is offline   Hood's Path 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 31
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 03 January 2012 - 09:55 PM

Part 2:


View PostKaschan, on 03 January 2012 - 04:48 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 02 January 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

Yep, I agree, I would say not all the factions (or even most of them) are present here.

At a guess, to judge from the OP, I would say Nepeth army faction (rather than the court etc.) has representatives in this game; the Qadi of Loathing, Tarkin the Bitter-Hearted is here also; the White Foal Clan of the Khanates; and some people from the Houses of Agreement.

Of the last, I'm not sure whether to think that they're all from the House of Magic like Delat (who we know is here because of the scene where he bought the Tax Collector title), or representatives from various houses.


Okay I agree with you on the Nepeth army faction and the House of Agreement members but where do you get the Qadi of Loathing and Tarkin the Bitter-Hearted or the While Foal Clan of the Khanates? Might have to reread the OP yet again.



View PostSerc, on 03 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Back.

My 2 cents on the settings:

The description that the Napeth with "if they achieve voting parity" sounds basically like the scum in a normal game. Everyone else has the same objective, to eliminate them, sounding like the standard "innos", the different factions being there just for flavor and storytelling.

This originally suggested a "normal game" balance of around 3 "scums" (in this case Napeth) and the rest different factions, the ratio of which is not that important for the victory conditions considering that they have a common objective.

However, this assumes that, like in normal games, the Napeth would be killing at night, and with some exceptions the rest wouldn't. I don't get this feeling based on the faction descriptions (i.e. I don't see why the Napeth would be the main "killers" in the game), so this balance might not hold. In such a case, maybe there could be more of the Napeth around, such as 4 or 5. With all this RPG stuff going around, I also get a feeling that NKs will be limited, because if 2 people die by day/night cycle, the game will be relatively short (5-6 days more or less), and this will limit the amount of "actions" and other cool stuff we can do.

That said, I also don't see the point of lynching today. Well, I could, but I honestly am not sure what to "look" for.

Strange stuff.



View PostHood, on 03 January 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 03 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Back.

My 2 cents on the settings:

The description that the Napeth with "if they achieve voting parity" sounds basically like the scum in a normal game. Everyone else has the same objective, to eliminate them, sounding like the standard "innos", the different factions being there just for flavor and storytelling.

This originally suggested a "normal game" balance of around 3 "scums" (in this case Napeth) and the rest different factions, the ratio of which is not that important for the victory conditions considering that they have a common objective.

However, this assumes that, like in normal games, the Napeth would be killing at night, and with some exceptions the rest wouldn't. I don't get this feeling based on the faction descriptions (i.e. I don't see why the Napeth would be the main "killers" in the game), so this balance might not hold. In such a case, maybe there could be more of the Napeth around, such as 4 or 5. With all this RPG stuff going around, I also get a feeling that NKs will be limited, because if 2 people die by day/night cycle, the game will be relatively short (5-6 days more or less), and this will limit the amount of "actions" and other cool stuff we can do.

That said, I also don't see the point of lynching today. Well, I could, but I honestly am not sure what to "look" for.

Strange stuff.


Night doesn't have a "kill" but it does have "Assassinate". The general consensus (and I agree) is that we think there are probably a very small number of assassins. But there"s also the whole entire "battle" phase and since the Nepeth are said to be an army sent by the Pharoah this seems like where they will do a lot of killing by being excellent battlers and crushing the traders, thieves and assassins. But they can be rivaled in battle by the Khan and the Qadi so they can"t completely rampage their way to victory.

That"s how I see it anyways



View PostGalain, on 03 January 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Just realized I won't be around when day times out. I will be around for another 12ish hours, though, so hopefully I can reach a decision before then.

View PostD, on 03 January 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

Ok, I have finally checked in. Many apologies. I will now read the thread.


Look who decided to show up :D

View PostKaschan, on 03 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

I'm glad that I wasn't the last person to check in at least.


Hey you. Change your avatar. Chinese people are lame.

View PostSerc, on 03 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Back.

My 2 cents on the settings:

The description that the Napeth with "if they achieve voting parity" sounds basically like the scum in a normal game. Everyone else has the same objective, to eliminate them, sounding like the standard "innos", the different factions being there just for flavor and storytelling.

This originally suggested a "normal game" balance of around 3 "scums" (in this case Napeth) and the rest different factions, the ratio of which is not that important for the victory conditions considering that they have a common objective.

However, this assumes that, like in normal games, the Napeth would be killing at night, and with some exceptions the rest wouldn't. I don't get this feeling based on the faction descriptions (i.e. I don't see why the Napeth would be the main "killers" in the game), so this balance might not hold. In such a case, maybe there could be more of the Napeth around, such as 4 or 5. With all this RPG stuff going around, I also get a feeling that NKs will be limited, because if 2 people die by day/night cycle, the game will be relatively short (5-6 days more or less), and this will limit the amount of "actions" and other cool stuff we can do.

That said, I also don't see the point of lynching today. Well, I could, but I honestly am not sure what to "look" for.

Strange stuff.


Change your avatar too, please.

The reason I personally believe the Nepeth are the primary killers is because I'm very certain that most (if not all) of them are Generals or Warriors. These are the only two roles that can attack. Assassins can also cause death, if we have any, but the only two roles that can actually attack are Generals and Warriors. So the Nepeth are most likely the attackers in this game. The Qadi might be able to attack, but I don't know about that. This game is taking place in the territory of the White Foal Clan of the Khanates. They could also have a killer or two. They probably also have raiders. So of all the factions in this game, it seems most likely that only those two would be able to attack. Obviously the beggars guild can't attack, summoners can't attack, whatever faction they may be from, the traders can't attack. It just makes sense, right? The only thing that could create more unknowns would be the power roles. But I get the feeling that there aren't many of those present in this game.

Your post is the scummiest I have seen so far. Especially at the end, when you put the idea out there of not voting, but you don't support it. Seems like you're trying to get the idea in the back of our minds, so when it comes down to it we don't vote. I'm not saying that you're straight up scum, but everyone has been so damn inconspicious so far, this is the first post that really popped out at me.


View PostTelas, on 03 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

It's meta. But, is it rule breaking? I don't think so.

Hell, Spycraft had events happen in real-time.


Well, Tapper is the mod, and he says he doesn't want it. So that makes it rule. Hopefully a finder is paying attention to this and will use this to direct his finds.

View PostSerc, on 03 January 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

And I second (or third) the perplexity regarding the current contract. Offering 2000 gold to produce something just to have the chance that someone else will buy the stuff produced makes me wonder who is missing something, me or the person who made that contract.



Okay, you're clearly still catching up. That brings your previous post lower on the scummy scale.

View PostHood, on 03 January 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on 03 January 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

I'm assuming the contract was modeled on Tapper's example. After having the flaw pointed out, we might be receiving a slightly more thought out offer. Loopholes are fun.


That seems unusual to me, shouldn"t they be punished for not thinking it through?

And how did the contract disappear? I didn"t think you could withdraw them. But if someone had fulfilled it then we should have seen some armor for sale. And besides I would think that a fulfilled contract would be strikedthrough not erased.


Because the Bazaar was still open, so it could be canceled. Once it closes, contracts will be kept there until dawn (dusk?), I would assume.


#202 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

  • Mafia Modgod
  • Group: Game Mod
  • Posts: 1,255
  • Joined: 01-October 08

Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:08 PM

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 49 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Serc, Sukul Anandhu, Telas

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Olar Ethil ( Korvalain )
1 Vote for Omtose ( Hood's Path )
1 Vote for Serc ( Kaschan )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Serc, Sukul Anandhu, Telas
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
0

#203 User is offline   Hood's Path 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 31
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:09 PM

echo... echo... echo...?

#204 User is offline   Hood's Path 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 31
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:15 PM

Alright, well thread is dead. Back in a few hours well before lynchee time

#205 User is offline   Omtose 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 9
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:39 PM

View PostHood, on 03 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 03 January 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

fwiw, I despise letting the game be solved by NAs, os I do think we should lynch.



I'm also of the opinion, as voiced by someone else, that since the Nepeth are trying to occupy the oasis, htey'll probably have military roles in this game, and thus, will hope to win via battles.


Really Omtose? As you can see from the long list of posts above we"ve already discussed that the Nepeth are military roles aplenty. In fact, YOU WERE ALREADY HERE AND HAVE POSTED SINCE WE BROUGHT THAT UP and now you come back and say "Oh i agree with this thing voiced by someone else (and totally not practically everyone already!) I am content hurr durr" This is such an utterly blatant attempt to look agreeable while getting your post count up. I dont know what you"ve got that you think you need to pretend to be agreeable but it is absolutely calling for some pressure and response

remove vote
vote Omtose

here I'll quote you all the discussion of this so far:




umm, right, i'm guessing you didn't see the "catching up" post.

I was here last yesterday, when it was me, Telas, and the tumbleweeds. discussion took place afterwards.

#206 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

  • Mafia Modgod
  • Group: Game Mod
  • Posts: 1,255
  • Joined: 01-October 08

Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:10 PM

Now that thread is dead, I'll go and get some sleep. See you in the morning, peoples.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
0

#207 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

  • Mafia Modgod
  • Group: Game Mod
  • Posts: 1,255
  • Joined: 01-October 08

Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:12 PM

But never fear your friendly Vengeance is here.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
0

#208 User is offline   Eloth 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 93
  • Joined: 17-June 09

Posted 03 January 2012 - 11:36 PM

I was just doing a read-through and I saw that Liosan said this but no one replied to his comment:

View PostLiosan, on 03 January 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 03 January 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:

There is 1 Contracts to be fulfilled.
The first player to put up Armor on the market, receives 2000 dinari.




I wonder if this offering has anything to do with Serc's earlier comment about snazzy armor (it stood out to me at the time, which is why I mentioned it in an earlier post.) It cant be signaling, because contracts are anonymous. But maybe Serc really IS fishing for armor. :D



This is the post of Serc's which Liosan is referring to:


View PostSerc, on 02 January 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

Well, "trying to catch up" was a bit optimistic.

I think I get the phases, I start to understand the Bazaar, I'm not certain I get what actions are, and I finally saw the tiny bit with the victory conditions.

I feel a bit like when I play a RPG, I don't care about the story I just want to get some loot and the snazziest armor.



Anything in this do we think? Frankly, it may not be flimsy to say the least, but it still strikes me as possibly the hardest evidence for a possible...something? Nepeth? White Foal? Other? Well, someone after something for a specific reason anyway.

#209 User is offline   Emurlahn 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 12:07 AM

The armor is probably for a) a buff to a military unit -or- a required item to use an ability or make a certain thing, like in the workshop etc. Either way it suggests whoever posted the contract is military aspected.

As far as connecting that to Serc, it's a probable as calling Olar Ethil a Thief for stealing Korv's ice cream post.



EDIT: to remove an emoticon that somehow appeared in the middle of my text

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 04 January 2012 - 12:08 AM


#210 User is offline   Emurlahn 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 12:14 AM

To further this thought, I am surprised no one has purchased any Weapons. This suggests to me that either the person that needs them has already spent their money on the Tax Collector title, or they haven't the funds required yet. I wonder who could have started with 15k denari

I realize that the Bazaar may seem secondary to the actual mafia playing, but it is interesting to me.

#211 User is offline   Omtose 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 9
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 12:17 AM

b with colon makes the sunglasses smiley.

#212 User is offline   Emurlahn 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 01:59 AM

View PostOmtose, on 04 January 2012 - 12:17 AM, said:

b with colon makes the sunglasses smiley.



That's what it was

#213 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

  • Mafia Modgod
  • Group: Game Mod
  • Posts: 1,255
  • Joined: 01-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 03:57 AM

It is Day 1. 6 hours and 59 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Anomandaris, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Serc, Sukul Anandhu, Telas

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Olar Ethil ( Korvalain )
1 Vote for Omtose ( Hood's Path )
1 Vote for Serc ( Kaschan )

Players not voted: Anomandaris, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Galain, Liosan, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Serc, Sukul Anandhu, Telas
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
0

#214 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

  • Mafia Modgod
  • Group: Game Mod
  • Posts: 1,255
  • Joined: 01-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:08 AM

Sorry guys this PS is going home to bed also. You shall have to make due until the other PS gets up.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
0

#215 User is offline   Galain 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:32 AM

Hmm. Looking at who has votes...

Serc because he alludes to wanting to no-lynch. Omtose because he reiterates what everyone else has been saying. Hmm.

Vote Serc

I'm voting Serc because he seems somewhat scummy. Omtose does seem like he is just trying to sound helpful, but that could be true of someone who is a tad overwhelmed. I know that happened to a few people in D'rek's last game.

I won't be around for time out, unfortunately.

#216 User is offline   Hood's Path 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 31
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:35 AM

Back catching up

#217 User is offline   Galain 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:36 AM

I suppose I can stick around for a few minutes if HP has anything to ask of me.

#218 User is offline   Hood's Path 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 31
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:42 AM

View PostOmtose, on 03 January 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 03 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 03 January 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

fwiw, I despise letting the game be solved by NAs, os I do think we should lynch.



I'm also of the opinion, as voiced by someone else, that since the Nepeth are trying to occupy the oasis, htey'll probably have military roles in this game, and thus, will hope to win via battles.


Really Omtose? As you can see from the long list of posts above we"ve already discussed that the Nepeth are military roles aplenty. In fact, YOU WERE ALREADY HERE AND HAVE POSTED SINCE WE BROUGHT THAT UP and now you come back and say "Oh i agree with this thing voiced by someone else (and totally not practically everyone already!) I am content hurr durr" This is such an utterly blatant attempt to look agreeable while getting your post count up. I dont know what you"ve got that you think you need to pretend to be agreeable but it is absolutely calling for some pressure and response

remove vote
vote Omtose

here I'll quote you all the discussion of this so far:




umm, right, i'm guessing you didn't see the "catching up" post.

I was here last yesterday, when it was me, Telas, and the tumbleweeds. discussion took place afterwards.


Not a chance omtose. The last time you were posting (posts 73 and 76) was after we already first discussed the Nepeth equals Generals idea and there was at least three people discussing it. Your post in 76 is about the thread being dead so you were caught up. Not only did you make a nonsensical statement but now you"re lying trying to defend yourself. Sorry but that is just plain scummy behaviour so you are definitely a Nepeth or power role.

#219 User is offline   Omtose 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 9
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:42 AM

overwhelmed is one way of putting it. I'm back in uni, still trying to adjest to the whole "the break is over, I have to sleep at decent times, and there's a million things to do" set-up.


*I'm following the game, but it's Day 1, in a town v scum game. The factions don't really come into play, aside of the meta-game (and I realize its importance), and role-spec. which isn't good, as it only helps the Nepeth figure out who to target.

#220 User is offline   Hood's Path 

  • Recruit
  • Group: Game alts
  • Posts: 31
  • Joined: 05-October 08

Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:46 AM

View PostEloth, on 03 January 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

I was just doing a read-through and I saw that Liosan said this but no one replied to his comment:

View PostLiosan, on 03 January 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 03 January 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:

There is 1 Contracts to be fulfilled.
The first player to put up Armor on the market, receives 2000 dinari.




I wonder if this offering has anything to do with Serc's earlier comment about snazzy armor (it stood out to me at the time, which is why I mentioned it in an earlier post.) It cant be signaling, because contracts are anonymous. But maybe Serc really IS fishing for armor. :D



This is the post of Serc's which Liosan is referring to:


View PostSerc, on 02 January 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

Well, "trying to catch up" was a bit optimistic.

I think I get the phases, I start to understand the Bazaar, I'm not certain I get what actions are, and I finally saw the tiny bit with the victory conditions.

I feel a bit like when I play a RPG, I don't care about the story I just want to get some loot and the snazziest armor.



Anything in this do we think? Frankly, it may not be flimsy to say the least, but it still strikes me as possibly the hardest evidence for a possible...something? Nepeth? White Foal? Other? Well, someone after something for a specific reason anyway.


I thought we had talked a bit about the possible Serc > armor > Nepeth connection before?

No?

Dan I thought we had. Well its a good point then. For day 1, nearing to a close, I think its the best possible clue to a Nepeth we"re going to get. WIFOM, I know but on day 1 with so much mechanics to grasp I think the armor on the market is more likely a slip or coincidence than a Nepeth thinking fast enough to throw up the armor on the market to frame Serc.

Share this topic:


  • 33 Pages +
  • « First
  • 9
  • 10
  • 11
  • 12
  • 13
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users