[Hood's Path]

Emurlahn, on 04 January 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

To further this thought, I am surprised no one has purchased any Weapons. This suggests to me that either the person that needs them has already spent their money on the Tax Collector title, or they haven't the funds required yet. I wonder who could have started with 15k denari

I realize that the Bazaar may seem secondary to the actual mafia playing, but it is interesting to me.

I can"t see Weapons being used to make anything other than some kind of retainer and probably a Raid, Battle or Caravan kind of retainer at that (as opposed to a court eunuch or similar). Or maybe someone like an assassin could use Weapons to make themselves a Combat Strength boosting item.

But any of those kinds of roles I can"t see also starting with 15000 dinari. That just seems too overpowered.

I think whatever role(s0 can use Weapons would be low on cash and so can"t afford the 5000 for weapons without either conserving money for a few days or selling whatever goods they themselves produce.

If Im right, then it is good for most of us because we will know they are going to start battling us soon when we see the Weapons being bought during the Day.

[Galain]

Liosan brought it up, but we didn't really talk about it. The snazzy armour thing is clearly a reference to RPG's as armour boosts stats and blah blah blah. I'm not saying there couldn't be signaling in there, but it isn't as random as the two references to stealing things.

[Omtose]

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 04:42 AM, said:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Hood, on 03 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

fwiw, I despise letting the game be solved by NAs, os I do think we should lynch.



I'm also of the opinion, as voiced by someone else, that since the Nepeth are trying to occupy the oasis, htey'll probably have military roles in this game, and thus, will hope to win via battles.

Really Omtose? As you can see from the long list of posts above we"ve already discussed that the Nepeth are military roles aplenty. In fact, YOU WERE ALREADY HERE AND HAVE POSTED SINCE WE BROUGHT THAT UP and now you come back and say "Oh i agree with this thing voiced by someone else (and totally not practically everyone already!) I am content hurr durr" This is such an utterly blatant attempt to look agreeable while getting your post count up. I dont know what you"ve got that you think you need to pretend to be agreeable but it is absolutely calling for some pressure and response

remove vote
vote Omtose

here I'll quote you all the discussion of this so far:

umm, right, i'm guessing you didn't see the "catching up" post.

I was here last yesterday, when it was me, Telas, and the tumbleweeds. discussion took place afterwards.

Not a chance omtose. The last time you were posting (posts 73 and 76) was after we already first discussed the Nepeth equals Generals idea and there was at least three people discussing it. Your post in 76 is about the thread being dead so you were caught up. Not only did you make a nonsensical statement but now you"re lying trying to defend yourself. Sorry but that is just plain scummy behaviour so you are definitely a Nepeth or power role.

umm,no
what I said was:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

well, I just got back to uni, settling in/unpacking/dreading re-starting school tomorrow.


seems the thread's gone quiet a bit.


I'm wondering, is the Quadi even lynchable? from what i've gathered, it's a Djihn of immense power, no?

you assuming that I was all caught up is your assumption.

I don't have tons of time (yet. It should improve soon). I do tend to skim posts, esp day 1.

I've noticed a few people bandy the "Nepeth=battle-related) idea around, some others suggested they were assasins, since that better fits "scum". I vioced my support of the former suggestion.


now, if you wanna take it out of context, that's your problem. I'm still wrapping my head around all the mechanics, and i'm thinking a few of us will still be doing that untill we have had at least a few nights pass.

[Hood's Path]

Galain, on 04 January 2012 - 04:36 AM, said:

I suppose I can stick around for a few minutes if HP has anything to ask of me.

Not really much to ask. I think you"re right Serc is the scummiest/Nepethiest looking for today.

While I think Omtose looks like he"s trying to hide that could as easily be Nepeth as Qadi or some other "town" power role. For now its better to go for our best-chance Nepeth.

Remove vote
vote serc

[Omtose]

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 04 January 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

To further this thought, I am surprised no one has purchased any Weapons. This suggests to me that either the person that needs them has already spent their money on the Tax Collector title, or they haven't the funds required yet. I wonder who could have started with 15k denari

I realize that the Bazaar may seem secondary to the actual mafia playing, but it is interesting to me.

I can"t see Weapons being used to make anything other than some kind of retainer and probably a Raid, Battle or Caravan kind of retainer at that (as opposed to a court eunuch or similar). Or maybe someone like an assassin could use Weapons to make themselves a Combat Strength boosting item.

But any of those kinds of roles I can"t see also starting with 15000 dinari. That just seems too overpowered.

I think whatever role(s0 can use Weapons would be low on cash and so can"t afford the 5000 for weapons without either conserving money for a few days or selling whatever goods they themselves produce.

If Im right, then it is good for most of us because we will know they are going to start battling us soon when we see the Weapons being bought during the Day.

are you suggesting we won't have battles until then?
in that case, it would make sense for Town to buy htem, to deny the Nepeth access to more retainers, no?

[Galain]

Did anyone actually suggest that the Nepeth were assassins? It's pretty clear from the OP and from a look at the faction list that they will be mostly warriors.

Okay then, see you all later!

[Hood's Path]

Omtose, on 04 January 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 04 January 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

To further this thought, I am surprised no one has purchased any Weapons. This suggests to me that either the person that needs them has already spent their money on the Tax Collector title, or they haven't the funds required yet. I wonder who could have started with 15k denari

I realize that the Bazaar may seem secondary to the actual mafia playing, but it is interesting to me.

I can"t see Weapons being used to make anything other than some kind of retainer and probably a Raid, Battle or Caravan kind of retainer at that (as opposed to a court eunuch or similar). Or maybe someone like an assassin could use Weapons to make themselves a Combat Strength boosting item.

But any of those kinds of roles I can"t see also starting with 15000 dinari. That just seems too overpowered.

I think whatever role(s0 can use Weapons would be low on cash and so can"t afford the 5000 for weapons without either conserving money for a few days or selling whatever goods they themselves produce.

If Im right, then it is good for most of us because we will know they are going to start battling us soon when we see the Weapons being bought during the Day.

are you suggesting we won't have battles until then?
in that case, it would make sense for Town to buy htem, to deny the Nepeth access to more retainers, no?

Well theres still a chance of battles but I think there will be fewer as the General types wont want to risk entering a battle with only 1 retainer, even if said retainer is a balrog, because they risk running into someone like another Khan/Nepeth or Qadi and dying. I think theyll mostly wait until they"ve amassed many retainers so even if they lose they have a very low chance of dying in battle.

As for buying the Weapons, if youre feeling generous go for it, but I doubt anyone will volunteer to waste 8000 quid that could be spent on self-improvement. Likewise try telling the guy who"s only valuable good that he can sell is Weapons not to sell them so the fighters can"t get them...

[Hood's Path]

Omtose, on 04 January 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 04:42 AM, said:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Hood, on 03 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

fwiw, I despise letting the game be solved by NAs, os I do think we should lynch.



I'm also of the opinion, as voiced by someone else, that since the Nepeth are trying to occupy the oasis, htey'll probably have military roles in this game, and thus, will hope to win via battles.

Really Omtose? As you can see from the long list of posts above we"ve already discussed that the Nepeth are military roles aplenty. In fact, YOU WERE ALREADY HERE AND HAVE POSTED SINCE WE BROUGHT THAT UP and now you come back and say "Oh i agree with this thing voiced by someone else (and totally not practically everyone already!) I am content hurr durr" This is such an utterly blatant attempt to look agreeable while getting your post count up. I dont know what you"ve got that you think you need to pretend to be agreeable but it is absolutely calling for some pressure and response

remove vote
vote Omtose

here I'll quote you all the discussion of this so far:

umm, right, i'm guessing you didn't see the "catching up" post.

I was here last yesterday, when it was me, Telas, and the tumbleweeds. discussion took place afterwards.

Not a chance omtose. The last time you were posting (posts 73 and 76) was after we already first discussed the Nepeth equals Generals idea and there was at least three people discussing it. Your post in 76 is about the thread being dead so you were caught up. Not only did you make a nonsensical statement but now you"re lying trying to defend yourself. Sorry but that is just plain scummy behaviour so you are definitely a Nepeth or power role.

umm,no
what I said was:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

well, I just got back to uni, settling in/unpacking/dreading re-starting school tomorrow.


seems the thread's gone quiet a bit.


I'm wondering, is the Quadi even lynchable? from what i've gathered, it's a Djihn of immense power, no?

you assuming that I was all caught up is your assumption.

I don't have tons of time (yet. It should improve soon). I do tend to skim posts, esp day 1.

I've noticed a few people bandy the "Nepeth=battle-related) idea around, some others suggested they were assasins, since that better fits "scum". I vioced my support of the former suggestion.


now, if you wanna take it out of context, that's your problem. I'm still wrapping my head around all the mechanics, and i'm thinking a few of us will still be doing that untill we have had at least a few nights pass.

"seems the threads gone quiet a bit" >>> are you claiming now that you posted this exact line when you were still catching up and then never finished that catching up? How stupid do you think I am that I would believe such a thing?

I have no way of knowing if your excuses are true or not. But when you make a post (especially when you only have about 5 so far) that is extremely out of place - agreeing with an argument long since settled - and wrong in its own details - saying you agree with "the one person" who voiced the argument when seven have said it so far - it is more than enough reason to cast light on your and apply some pressure. Then when under the pressure you try to weasel your way out with lies - that you were catching up still but some of the issue in question was from before you last were on - it really really makes you look like you"ve got something to hide.

[Omtose]

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 05:01 AM, said:

Omtose, on 04 January 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 04 January 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

To further this thought, I am surprised no one has purchased any Weapons. This suggests to me that either the person that needs them has already spent their money on the Tax Collector title, or they haven't the funds required yet. I wonder who could have started with 15k denari

I realize that the Bazaar may seem secondary to the actual mafia playing, but it is interesting to me.

I can"t see Weapons being used to make anything other than some kind of retainer and probably a Raid, Battle or Caravan kind of retainer at that (as opposed to a court eunuch or similar). Or maybe someone like an assassin could use Weapons to make themselves a Combat Strength boosting item.

But any of those kinds of roles I can"t see also starting with 15000 dinari. That just seems too overpowered.

I think whatever role(s0 can use Weapons would be low on cash and so can"t afford the 5000 for weapons without either conserving money for a few days or selling whatever goods they themselves produce.

If Im right, then it is good for most of us because we will know they are going to start battling us soon when we see the Weapons being bought during the Day.

are you suggesting we won't have battles until then?
in that case, it would make sense for Town to buy htem, to deny the Nepeth access to more retainers, no?

Well theres still a chance of battles but I think there will be fewer as the General types wont want to risk entering a battle with only 1 retainer, even if said retainer is a balrog, because they risk running into someone like another Khan/Nepeth or Qadi and dying. I think theyll mostly wait until they"ve amassed many retainers so even if they lose they have a very low chance of dying in battle.

As for buying the Weapons, if youre feeling generous go for it, but I doubt anyone will volunteer to waste 8000 quid that could be spent on self-improvement. Likewise try telling the guy who"s only valuable good that he can sell is Weapons not to sell them so the fighters can"t get them...

well, he can always offer them on contract... if he finds some pro-town thing for them to do, lol.

[Omtose]

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:

Omtose, on 04 January 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 04:42 AM, said:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Hood, on 03 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

fwiw, I despise letting the game be solved by NAs, os I do think we should lynch.



I'm also of the opinion, as voiced by someone else, that since the Nepeth are trying to occupy the oasis, htey'll probably have military roles in this game, and thus, will hope to win via battles.

Really Omtose? As you can see from the long list of posts above we"ve already discussed that the Nepeth are military roles aplenty. In fact, YOU WERE ALREADY HERE AND HAVE POSTED SINCE WE BROUGHT THAT UP and now you come back and say "Oh i agree with this thing voiced by someone else (and totally not practically everyone already!) I am content hurr durr" This is such an utterly blatant attempt to look agreeable while getting your post count up. I dont know what you"ve got that you think you need to pretend to be agreeable but it is absolutely calling for some pressure and response

remove vote
vote Omtose

here I'll quote you all the discussion of this so far:

umm, right, i'm guessing you didn't see the "catching up" post.

I was here last yesterday, when it was me, Telas, and the tumbleweeds. discussion took place afterwards.

Not a chance omtose. The last time you were posting (posts 73 and 76) was after we already first discussed the Nepeth equals Generals idea and there was at least three people discussing it. Your post in 76 is about the thread being dead so you were caught up. Not only did you make a nonsensical statement but now you"re lying trying to defend yourself. Sorry but that is just plain scummy behaviour so you are definitely a Nepeth or power role.

umm,no
what I said was:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

well, I just got back to uni, settling in/unpacking/dreading re-starting school tomorrow.


seems the thread's gone quiet a bit.


I'm wondering, is the Quadi even lynchable? from what i've gathered, it's a Djihn of immense power, no?

you assuming that I was all caught up is your assumption.

I don't have tons of time (yet. It should improve soon). I do tend to skim posts, esp day 1.

I've noticed a few people bandy the "Nepeth=battle-related) idea around, some others suggested they were assasins, since that better fits "scum". I vioced my support of the former suggestion.


now, if you wanna take it out of context, that's your problem. I'm still wrapping my head around all the mechanics, and i'm thinking a few of us will still be doing that untill we have had at least a few nights pass.

"seems the threads gone quiet a bit" >>> are you claiming now that you posted this exact line when you were still catching up and then never finished that catching up? How stupid do you think I am that I would believe such a thing?

I have no way of knowing if your excuses are true or not. But when you make a post (especially when you only have about 5 so far) that is extremely out of place - agreeing with an argument long since settled - and wrong in its own details - saying you agree with "the one person" who voiced the argument when seven have said it so far - it is more than enough reason to cast light on your and apply some pressure. Then when under the pressure you try to weasel your way out with lies - that you were catching up still but some of the issue in question was from before you last were on - it really really makes you look like you"ve got something to hide.

I never said you were stupid. I pointed out that I was commenting as I was catching up. in said catching up, i was skimming. ergo, me having read everything and remarking that the "thread's gone quiet, i.e., I have no one to talk to", does not equal "I have read and understood everythinng up to this point". it's not an unreasonable assumption to make they are one and the same, but not always true nonetheless.

in any case, I have no intention of turning this into a pissing match. And I need to go make some food. I'll be back in round 40 min.

[Hood's Path]

Omtose, on 04 January 2012 - 05:13 AM, said:

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:

Omtose, on 04 January 2012 - 04:53 AM, said:

Hood, on 04 January 2012 - 04:42 AM, said:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Hood, on 03 January 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

fwiw, I despise letting the game be solved by NAs, os I do think we should lynch.



I'm also of the opinion, as voiced by someone else, that since the Nepeth are trying to occupy the oasis, htey'll probably have military roles in this game, and thus, will hope to win via battles.

Really Omtose? As you can see from the long list of posts above we"ve already discussed that the Nepeth are military roles aplenty. In fact, YOU WERE ALREADY HERE AND HAVE POSTED SINCE WE BROUGHT THAT UP and now you come back and say "Oh i agree with this thing voiced by someone else (and totally not practically everyone already!) I am content hurr durr" This is such an utterly blatant attempt to look agreeable while getting your post count up. I dont know what you"ve got that you think you need to pretend to be agreeable but it is absolutely calling for some pressure and response

remove vote
vote Omtose

here I'll quote you all the discussion of this so far:

umm, right, i'm guessing you didn't see the "catching up" post.

I was here last yesterday, when it was me, Telas, and the tumbleweeds. discussion took place afterwards.

Not a chance omtose. The last time you were posting (posts 73 and 76) was after we already first discussed the Nepeth equals Generals idea and there was at least three people discussing it. Your post in 76 is about the thread being dead so you were caught up. Not only did you make a nonsensical statement but now you"re lying trying to defend yourself. Sorry but that is just plain scummy behaviour so you are definitely a Nepeth or power role.

umm,no
what I said was:

Omtose, on 03 January 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

well, I just got back to uni, settling in/unpacking/dreading re-starting school tomorrow.


seems the thread's gone quiet a bit.


I'm wondering, is the Quadi even lynchable? from what i've gathered, it's a Djihn of immense power, no?

you assuming that I was all caught up is your assumption.

I don't have tons of time (yet. It should improve soon). I do tend to skim posts, esp day 1.

I've noticed a few people bandy the "Nepeth=battle-related) idea around, some others suggested they were assasins, since that better fits "scum". I vioced my support of the former suggestion.


now, if you wanna take it out of context, that's your problem. I'm still wrapping my head around all the mechanics, and i'm thinking a few of us will still be doing that untill we have had at least a few nights pass.

"seems the threads gone quiet a bit" >>> are you claiming now that you posted this exact line when you were still catching up and then never finished that catching up? How stupid do you think I am that I would believe such a thing?

I have no way of knowing if your excuses are true or not. But when you make a post (especially when you only have about 5 so far) that is extremely out of place - agreeing with an argument long since settled - and wrong in its own details - saying you agree with "the one person" who voiced the argument when seven have said it so far - it is more than enough reason to cast light on your and apply some pressure. Then when under the pressure you try to weasel your way out with lies - that you were catching up still but some of the issue in question was from before you last were on - it really really makes you look like you"ve got something to hide.

I never said you were stupid. I pointed out that I was commenting as I was catching up. in said catching up, i was skimming. ergo, me having read everything and remarking that the "thread's gone quiet, i.e., I have no one to talk to", does not equal "I have read and understood everythinng up to this point". it's not an unreasonable assumption to make they are one and the same, but not always true nonetheless.

in any case, I have no intention of turning this into a pissing match. And I need to go make some food. I'll be back in round 40 min.

Noted but the explanations of phrasing and skimming could still be excuses and/or made up after the fact. Since this mafia I have to keep that first interpretation in mind. IGEMOY!!!

[Hood's Path]

Im out for the night then. Hope enough people get on in time for the lynch but Im none too optimistic.

[Serc]

For the record, I never advocated a no-lynch, I just said that I wasn't as eager as normal games to lynch, compounded to the fact that I'm not certain what to look for.

Again, in normal games, the "scum" team is the one with the lethal night actions. I have read in my catch-up that an hypothesis told by a few is that the Nepeth woud have a lot of killing roles in their midst, if that's the case then my doubts might not be valid. But if someone can explain where that comes from, I'm all ears.

Those who are using what I said to vote me, I guess, are mostly fear-mongering or just latching to what they see as an easy vote for day 1 when there is not much to go with. Fair enough, I guess I brought that on myself.

Honestly, this is a bit like the day 1 signaling - when was it ever right? You honestly believe that someone from a team everyone is about would say stuff like I did? They would just cruise along and agree with something that is already said and didn't raise suspicions, such as Omtose's recent post, and the second or third who voted for me to make me the candidate for day 1.

I tried to open the discussion about the necessity of a lynch on day 1. I still don't think it's as crucial as normally. I don't think we are going into the night as sheeps in a wolves den. We are relatively few in the game, and we can't afford as many random lynches than in a game of 20+ players.

And on a non-game theory note, the game seem to be the type to get more and more interesting with each passing day, and shooting randomly and early will just make it shorter.

[Serc]

Also, something else that bugs me:

Of course we get most of our information from lynches. I never said the opposite. But when did we ever get good information from day 1 lynches?

I never said we should never lynch. I just said maybe not this time on day 1. In normal game, the little information gained by a day 1 lynch is still ok based on the fact that in most probability the person lynched is a RI. But I doubt that in this game someone's role PM says "You're just a hobo with no power who passed out on the street corner. You wake up and hear some noise, and were stupid enough to go and check it out"

[Telas]

But, that noise is so fucking annoying! I want to check it out!

[Serc]

Galain, on 04 January 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:

Hmm. Looking at who has votes...

Serc because he alludes to wanting to no-lynch. Omtose because he reiterates what everyone else has been saying. Hmm.

Vote Serc

I'm voting Serc because he seems somewhat scummy. Omtose does seem like he is just trying to sound helpful, but that could be true of someone who is a tad overwhelmed. I know that happened to a few people in D'rek's last game.

I won't be around for time out, unfortunately.

This is what I'm talking about, when I say that someone who is playing carefully would basically only repeat things that have been said before without raising reactions.

Line 2: the two votes and the reason for them. No reason to look somewhere else and to say something original. No mention of Olar Ethil, who also has a vote, because he's not sure why he got his vote and is not bothered to go back and check. Either that or he's not sure and is afraid that saying something not perfectly correct will get a second look from others

Line 4: Vote for me, but not for the reason he said above, because even though no-one yet said that I might not be completely wrong doesn't mean that someone won't in the future, so voting me for that reason means taking a position compared to what I said. Instead I'm just "somewhat scummy", which no-one can argue. Followed by a condescending slight defense for someone, always makes you feel like people will like you when you do something like this.

[Telas]

Also, I have no idea who I want to vote for. Everybody's being super cagey and hard to get a read.

[Omtose]

Serc, on 04 January 2012 - 06:04 AM, said:

For the record, I never advocated a no-lynch, I just said that I wasn't as eager as normal games to lynch, compounded to the fact that I'm not certain what to look for.

Again, in normal games, the "scum" team is the one with the lethal night actions. I have read in my catch-up that an hypothesis told by a few is that the Nepeth woud have a lot of killing roles in their midst, if that's the case then my doubts might not be valid. But if someone can explain where that comes from, I'm all ears.

Those who are using what I said to vote me, I guess, are mostly fear-mongering or just latching to what they see as an easy vote for day 1 when there is not much to go with. Fair enough, I guess I brought that on myself.

Honestly, this is a bit like the day 1 signaling - when was it ever right? You honestly believe that someone from a team everyone is about would say stuff like I did? They would just cruise along and agree with something that is already said and didn't raise suspicions, such as Omtose's recent post, and the second or third who voted for me to make me the candidate for day 1.

I tried to open the discussion about the necessity of a lynch on day 1. I still don't think it's as crucial as normally. I don't think we are going into the night as sheeps in a wolves den. We are relatively few in the game, and we can't afford as many random lynches than in a game of 20+ players.

And on a non-game theory note, the game seem to be the type to get more and more interesting with each passing day, and shooting randomly and early will just make it shorter.

actually, the suggestion is that the Nepeth have DUSK actions. battle action, specifically.

as to where that comes from, Nepeth are trying to take over the oasis. as in, military occupation.

it'd make sense that their roles be military-aspected, and habve battle as their proimary action.

(see, HP, even if i'm the 8th person to say this, some people still need to hear it, )


I am also quite lost at who to vote. but Serc's "a Day 1 lynch is anever a good lynch" attitude is anyhting but productive.

[Korvalain]

I guess we'll get a replacement for Olar anyway. So I see no reason to keep that vote up.

remove vote

[D'riss]

Serc, on 04 January 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:

Also, something else that bugs me:

Of course we get most of our information from lynches. I never said the opposite. But when did we ever get good information from day 1 lynches?

I never said we should never lynch. I just said maybe not this time on day 1. In normal game, the little information gained by a day 1 lynch is still ok based on the fact that in most probability the person lynched is a RI. But I doubt that in this game someone's role PM says "You're just a hobo with no power who passed out on the street corner. You wake up and hear some noise, and were stupid enough to go and check it out"

So you're basically saying we shouldn't lynch on day 1 this game because we might lynch someone important instead of the traditional "RI" role? But you also think that lynching on subsequent days is a good idea...when we have fewer players, and depending on NKs, are actually more likely to hit roled players.

So that doesn't really mesh. At all. Even so, someone wanting to avoid a lynch and go straight to night just screams night/dusk abilities that you are begging to use. I am guessing they must be good ones.

I don't really like the blow-off nature of bringing up prior games as if that clears your play. It seems lazy. Cheap. Scummy. [sic]

Vote Serc

I'll be around for a little while but probably not till timeout. I'm willing to look at other options but I also think lynching is pretty important in this game with all the possible roles/actions. A little info is going to go a long way.