[Path-Shaper]

Thanks for the advice. I made a warning post.

I was worried when I drew GH as killer, because I knew he would be low posting with his busy doctor-ness. But I didn't want to cheat, so I let it stand. Eloth (and Shadow, actually) is doing a good job of keeping attention away, but GH better come up with some good stuff if he wants to stay alive.

I know it's meta and annoying, but I would honestly drop something about being a medical student if I were GH. If people are able to alt him they'll find it seriously hard to believe that he got killer twice.

Sigh. Meta.

Also

ST's plan

Eloth, on 12 December 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:

I hope no-one has been paraphrasing their Role PM in there...all I can tell is that it's something about a hippie living in a tent, but then again I already knew that. I'll be annoyed if a few players managed to PI themselves like that - it's an obvious and exploitable tactic because you didn't put up the inno role PM like I asked...

Anyway, my plan here is to push through all the things that we tend to do wrong every game.

Step 1: Accuse a high poster early in the game. They have lots of posts, so they're easy to make cases on.

Step 2: Late in Day 1, build a counter train to the first one you've set up. With any luck that will be an easy lynch to push on Day 2.

Step 3: Tell people that we need to look at the people who are skating, but don't actually do anything about it.

Step 4: ...

Step 5: Profit!

[Path-Shaper]

Eloth, on 13 December 2011 - 12:20 AM, said:

Right, so I decided to respond to Olar Ethil's "What about Liosan?" with a slightly overt "Could be, but what about this dude instead?" post. Might have been a bit brash, but I wanted to try and post something that would give a (subtle) indication to Liosan that I'm on his side while not necessarily adding to the pressure on him. If someone goes through with a fine tooth comb they might find it, but if they're looking for evidence that Liosan is a killer by looking at what others think about him then hopefully the distinct lack of attention everyone else is paying him should stand me in good stead.




ST

I liked that.

Galayn Lord, on 13 December 2011 - 01:04 AM, said:

Only if I get to braid beads, feathers and bells into it.!

Just posted my first post now and reading. I may have forgotten about Mafia last night...

KL may have forgotten about Mafia again.. woops.

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 13 December 2011 - 01:06 AM, said:

Ok here is the kill provisional order:

Kill Fener, Eloth, Tulas Shorn, Olar Ethil.

I think currently the most dangerous in town are Fener, Eloth and OE. All seem to be really good thinkers. And my money is on TS as a finder so far if he survives the day that is...

Edit: bolding

Oh my. ST may be a bit too smart for his own good, apparently.

[Path-Shaper]

Karatallid, on 13 December 2011 - 04:02 AM, said:

You did ask me to RP didn't you... Are you sure that I can't talk you into a nice juicy suicide bomber role. I know that there are only 10 players but you could let me take out the other 9...

[Path-Shaper]

Shadow, on 13 December 2011 - 09:49 AM, said:

I am happy with the way day one is turning out.

Tulas Shorn, on 13 December 2011 - 11:16 AM, said:

I don't think D'riss is scum. He could be, since he's getting flak from different quarters, but I'm just trying to shake the tree to see what comes out.

Tulas Shorn, on 13 December 2011 - 11:16 AM, said:

Provisional -

Throw poo at Galayn Lord.

Liosan (GH) did an awesome move by mentioning eloth repeatedly without actually making a case. Now someone else is voting him. Too bad it's his symp ><

ST (eloth) needs to post something major and seemingly helpful on thread if he wants to endear himself in the eyes of the town. Hmm.. he could come on and make a case on fener, but then vote for d'riss.. effective distancing from both possibilities that GH puts him as scum.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 December 2011 - 02:11 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Eloth, on 13 December 2011 - 03:01 PM, said:

Right, so the plan here is to make it look like I'm symping D'riss. Hopefully that gets him lynched, and then when he comes back Inno I can be all "I told you so!"

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 13 December 2011 - 10:50 PM, said:

Ok last minute change

Remove kill order


Kill the following in order of who is first available:
Olar Ethil, Fener, Tulas Shorn, Eloth

[Path-Shaper]

Galayn Lord, on 13 December 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

Day one RP is the best thing about day one *sadface*

Find anything of particular interest? I'm a terrible mafia player, by the way. I'm not even sure what lovers are supposed to do. Take joy in the fact that they know at least one other person is town?

In a small game like this lovers are an extremely powerful role. They have the ability to automatically control half of the votes necessary for a lynch (almost that on day 1). They can reason things out together off thread without the ire of the killer being raised.

Fener, on 13 December 2011 - 10:16 PM, said:

Yes. I think the only benefit that having this connection is so we can narrow the suspect pool by one. We can also use this connection to bat ideas back and forth.

I would still like to vote out Tulas Shorn. My gut is telling me that he is scum. Eloth also pings it a little bit too. That is why I'm probably going to keep my vote where it's at.

Lots of posts in the lover convo, nothing extremely substantial. They both really dislike TS.

[Path-Shaper]

Tulas Shorn, on 13 December 2011 - 11:35 PM, said:

Well, that was surprising.

And scummy as hell. A sudden lynch change to me with nothing other than gut? What the fuck kind of information is that going to give town? First person to claim I must have been a symp is either a killer or symp.

There are so many things wrong with how that was played in the last hour, I don't even know where to fucking start. Are your heads actually in the game? Obviously fucking not. If that was led by scum, congratulations, you are awesome - I gotta give mad kudos if so. Any townies voting for me (other than Fener, who was at least consistant) need to fucking read a few fucking games and not lynch on a goddam whim. I played everything straight, and if trying to get a lynch with 1 hour fucknig left is scummy, than as I said, read a goddam game or two and get your heads around the importance of a lynch, especially in a game where there is likely to be little help from roles. Textbook inno play, trying to get help out there and I get lynched on gut. And whoever it was who said I've been acting cociliatory on thread (Liosan?) needs to learn to fucking read. Neg rep will be handed out after this one's over.

My pick for scum, before getting access to SH is D'riss, Eloth or Lio. If NONE of them are, Merrid is scum.

Heh. Both Eloth and Lio are scum.

On the plus side for you (from the Lover convo)

Fener, on 13 December 2011 - 11:34 PM, said:

Liosan just jumped way up on my list of suspects. With his whole C code thing and then he started the whole switch to Tulas Shorn at the last minute. I'm wondering if Lio is a symp and that either D'riss or Eloth was his master? I think it's something that we need to look at.

GH's symp feels similarly.

Eloth, on 13 December 2011 - 11:28 PM, said:

...

Unfortunately, I think Liosan might have just made himself the prime target for tomorrow with all that leading stuff. He should just have let us lynch D'riss.

ST

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 December 2011 - 11:44 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Shin, I'm sorry that my mistake allowed you to be lynched like that. But I had to make the decision whether to correct it or not with a tiny amount of time remaining on the clock. The switch was made with the faith that only 5 votes were required, and it was my mistake, therefore your death was my fault.

I am extremely sorry. This modding business is tough.

edit: In retrospect, I should have just fixed it and extended the clock. Bleh.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 December 2011 - 11:42 PM

[Tulas Shorn]

Good work killers. BOOOOOO to HiddenOne, King Lear and twelve. Y'all just got played.

Nicely done gust hubb and STD. STD, I had you. Should've stuck with that vote, since it appears switching to get a lynch with one hour left GETS you lynched. I'm rooting for scum on this one, thank you very much.

If PS posts my rant, I may regret it later. But it felt damn good at the time to write it.

[Tulas Shorn]

No worries JLV. It happens. It won't break the game, and if town is to have any chance, they needed that lynch to help sort out that mess anyways.

Note to lovers: just because you're lovers, doesn't mean you have to vote as a block.

[Path-Shaper]

So what do you think about the practically role-less town in this game? Yay or nay?

[Tulas Shorn]

I like it. It's about what I suspected - I knew town wouldn't be able to rely on roles to get it done (or at least I was hoping).

[Path-Shaper]

night resolution incoming to thread.

edit: Now, voting to go to night is also 1 over half, correct? Or is it half?

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 14 December 2011 - 12:11 AM

[Path-Shaper]

I'm so sorry guys, I arrived back as soon as I could, and I actually thought we had till midnight my time, but turns out I got that wrong. Looks like you got a lynch anyway, though Tulas Shorn seems a little out of the blue. To be honest, if I was around, I would have voted that way also when the votes started moving that way.

But now that TS is inno, we can look at who drove the votes away from what seemed like it would be a D'riss lynch after D'riss had voted for Eloth. I'm not sure how relevant it is now, but here's my summary of the first four pages of the thread, as a couple of people requested:

PAGE 1:

The Players: Olar, Liosan, Shadow, D'riss, Tulas Shorn

- Shadow makes a joke vote on me.
- Shadow thinks he's found something on Tulas due to a picture Tulas posts, and links D'riss into his argument also.
- Shadow retracts his argument, saying he made a bad mistake.
- Shadow goes after me instead.
- Shadow becomes the first to speculate on role distribution.
- Shadow puts forward his hunt the low posters suggestion.

As you can see, Shadow was at the centre of all talking points on page 1.

PAGE 2:

The Players: Shadow, Tulas Shorn, D'riss, Olar, Eloth, Fener, Karatallid, Merrid

- D'riss pokes Shadow, elicits jumpy reaction from Shadow.
- D'riss, Eloth, and Fener RP amongst each other loads.
- Eloth votes Shadow.
- D'riss follows with a vote on Shadow.
- Karatallid and Merrid enter and RP (though not with each other).

Main talking point here is the Eloth/D'riss interaction over voting for Shadow.

PAGE 3:

The Players: Eloth, Shadow, Merrid, Olar, Fener, Karatallid, Tulas Shorn

- Shadow makes a case on D'riss as smooth scum player.
- Karatallid continues to RP.
- Fener makes a case on Tulas Shorn based on TS talking of RIs rather than 'us RIs'.
- Eloth tries to encourage others (Merrid, Kara) to get serious.
- I speculate on Liosan briefly.

Couple of cases here, obviously the speculation on TS by Fener is now wrong.

PAGE 4:

The Players: Galayn Lord, Liosan, Karatallid, Tulas Shorn, Shadow, D'riss, Eloth, Liosan

- Tulas defends himself from Fener.
- Liosan dominates this page, putting forward both the D'riss/Eloth Shadow vote interaction and his 'c' coding case.
- Karatallid continues to RP.
- Tulas also brings up the D'riss/Eloth interaction, seemingly independently from Liosan.
- D'riss defends himself from the cases.

On this page speculation about D'riss dominates.

And yet we find the one who garnered the most suspicion from the most individuals somehow escaped the lynch at the death.

[Path-Shaper]

That came right after I posted that he was dead. I deleted it, I assume that's the correct thing to do?

[Olar Ethil]

Sorry about the post after I was killed, I didn't know.

Bah, I hate dying early

[Olar Ethil]

Damn, and in that post I said that I speculated on Liosan....damn

[Path-Shaper]

It's all good buddy! I'm pretty sure I got it before anyone would have seen it. Unless someone is posting a big long response to it, then I suppose there's nothing I can do.