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#861 User is offline   Anomandaris 

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:26 AM

Lots of pointless discussion about meanas and worse reasoning. We are not at any stage going to lynch someone we think may just be town deadwood. there is no such thing as town dead wood. every member of town kep s us in the game so enough of the trimming the fat talk. Its the most baseless excuse for not trying to make a case or investigate i have yet to see in a game and makes me highly suspicious of spite and his disappearing act last week. meanas is probably going to get modkilled cause they havent posted in forever so lets just leave him there as a numbers safety net, if he is a symp he did absolutely nothing to help his team the entire game, if he is inno he kept our numbers up. end of.

atrahal - no offense but you arent defending against a case of "oh he said this and then that so hes obviously scum" you gamelon and omtose are the three unknowns. You havent been cleared by emur and your interactions with the only known scum were nonconfrontational throughout the game. Regardless of whether you believe our suspicions to be false you need to realise that whining about it and asking other people to make cases doesnt really enamour anyone into not voting for you. That you seem oblivious to the situation doesnt help either, instead of reading what others and myself posted about mockra and the lynches on thread you have done nothing but complain that you are on the chopping block.

i would be willing to vote off gamelon or atrahal today, but spite has seriously jumped up the list into possible symp scum territory after that barrage of stuff yesterday. I would put atrahal at 60/40 scum above gamelon but emur if you are alive tomorrow u may want to investigate spite instead. I have never seen what appear to be so many symp clues in all my life during a game. He is clearly trying to give instructions and run the game now. He must believe he is untouchable, if it ends up going down to 3 and spite is there, vote him off!

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:39 AM

Back...How much time is left?

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:53 AM

Well.....Ano.

I was actually going to come on today and disclose my feelings about spite and such, which is similar to what you are saying.


I purposefully said that i am not decided on thread early on today, i laid my suspects out for all on thread.
Now these are my real suspects. It is in line with what a few other people are thinking. But i have not committed to any one case.
The reasoning being that i realize that this is the time that a symp would need to take the reigns.
I also am seriously not sure wich way to go.... but i also wanted to take a bit of a step back and hope for the symp to...reveal himself.
If there is a symp left, which there should be. He would have need to step up the the plate now.
This is his time to shine.

So i wanted to wait and see who came out and who tried to push the thread into one direction or another.
Spite fits this pretty well.
Maybe too well as he also has come back from a hiatus and is probably looking to get stuck in if he is inno.

Unfortunately i have to do some work now but will be back shortly.
Hope there is still about 7 hours left....i think.
I want to go back through the day and see if anybody else was trying to push people in any direction.
Would hate to focus only on spite and miss something else.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 10:24 AM

View PostAtrahal, on 06 December 2011 - 03:32 AM, said:

Holy shit. And I was complaining of a slow start to my day. Well, Emur if you are the finder, welcome :p . It's good to finally have some solid direction. I'm not going to waste to much time speculating while we wait for resolution, but let us know what you find tomorrow Emur as soon as you can so we can get down to business and seal up this game for town <_< .





hang on....
i find this post odd.

Atrahal xposts with the resolution of night.

why is he so sure Ehmur will still be around in the morn?

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 10:51 AM

View PostAtrahal, on 07 December 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

If all you are going on is meta Spite, that fucking enrages me. I will have you know yesterday that I got up at 3 am, left for work around 6 am and didn't get home till past 8 pm. It was the longest day I have had all month (even since last month), and I don't appreciate the implications coming from someone who was absent for over 2 days straight and now seems to know it all.

Sorry, you are just totally out of line.


but its not meta. <_<

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 11:33 AM

It is Day 5, 4 hours and 15 minutes left in the day.

9 players alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

5 votes to lynch

1 vote Atrahal: Anomandaris
3 votes Gamelon: Emurlahn, Atrahal, Omtose

Players not voting: Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Spite, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#867 User is offline   Anomandaris 

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 12:19 PM

well, i still prefer atrahal, but gamelon was second on my list and time for me is short.

remove vote

vote gamelon


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Posted 07 December 2011 - 12:35 PM

i would vote with you for atrahal actually.


im not very keen on this gamelon lynch, the guy seems completely unfazed about the game.

putting Game on L-1 now kinda makes the lynch a forgone conclusion now...

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 12:45 PM

It is Day 5, 2 hours and 45 minutes left in the day.

9 players alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

5 votes to lynch

4 votes Gamelon: Emurlahn, Atrahal, Omtose, Anomandaris

Players not voting: Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Spite, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 12:55 PM

Morning everyone! <_<

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:05 PM

Wait, wasn't Spite supposed to put his vote down last night?

D'oh. Someone better come around in the next 2.5 hours

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:15 PM

I'm in and out. Just now dropping in before a meeting, but I may not be here till end of my day.... I am hoping for a long lunch break but not counting on it.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:17 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 07 December 2011 - 01:05 PM, said:

Wait, wasn't Spite supposed to put his vote down last night?

D'oh. Someone better come around in the next 2.5 hours


i am around to hammer if need be...no stress.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:18 PM

Ok, well good luck all. See you in hopefully 8-9 hours.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:20 PM

Could you hammer now? No other lynch can possibly occur, and I want to see the resolution before I have to leave in about an hour and a half.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:22 PM

View PostAtrahal, on 07 December 2011 - 01:49 AM, said:

Gamelon, to prevent the same thing being done to you that keeps getting done to me, let me lay out why you are a suspect in my estimation:

Most of your posts are one liners, often questions (good questions, but still mostly questions). You continually defer to being busy at work or with family, but rarely show up on thread (why play the game if you are just lurking for the hell of it?). In fact, I think at least half of your posts have some reference to returning after this and that, be back in 10 minutes, etc. In fact you promised a very thorough read through this weekend, and so far you have given us about as much as Mockra's non-existent list of suspects.

More specifically, looking at your cases for your lynch votes, day 1 you said Kesso seemed like the most convincing case (and that was all) before laying down your vote. Day 2, you objected to Thyr's "lack-of-symp" comment and said Thyr's attempt at making a case wasn't convincing. Really not much more than that and Day 2 you voted for Thyr. And then, I don't see any more votes from you (though it sounds as though, surprise surprise, Ruse was your second choice following Thyr).

Yesterday, you speak up in support of Emur and doubt of Mockra, and today say "Spite is looking mighty yummy" mostly for his obvious absence and recent reappearance (not much more to your accusation than that).

Now you don't say anything particularly stupid or blatant that I could find, but you are playing a smooth quiet game that sometimes tries to rattle the cage but for the most part just goes with the flow.



View PostEmurlahn, on 07 December 2011 - 01:53 AM, said:

Now look at my example. I post both stupidly AND blatantly. And often. So wooh! /waves finger/

But really, you seem like you're sliding by. Easy to hide a scum in people like you and Meanas.



Allow me to respond

I'm not a prolific poster even when unfettered by RL obligations. My weekend read-thru didn't happen -try taking care of a 3 year old while looking for incriminating posts! Day 1, I had nothing better so I went with what seemed the most logical case. Day 2 I had my own idea, so I voted it. Day 3 I missed the lynch by a little while, my vote wouldn't have changed things

I'm still going with my statement on Spite. In fact,

Vote Spite

Since I'm on the L-1 slide, my fate may be sealed already - but when I'm proven inno, town will be 1 closer to losing

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:24 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 07 December 2011 - 01:20 PM, said:

Could you hammer now? No other lynch can possibly occur, and I want to see the resolution before I have to leave in about an hour and a half.


i would preffer an atrahal lynch tho....meh.


actually there is 5 peeps left so a lynch on someone else is possible.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:27 PM

im surprised neither gam or atrahal have revealed their character names, it doesnt mean much as they could be faked, but there is so little effort being made to defend themselves. ruse was the same and didnt make an effort to stop a lynch on themself.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:31 PM

View PostSpite, on 07 December 2011 - 12:12 AM, said:

Why are people insisting there is a healer? It doesn't matter one way or another if there is a healer. Put yourself in the shoes of scum. A finder out's one of your players as scum. At the same time the finder clears a town player. Now there are 2 players that everyone can stop looking at. That is two less people that scum can try the railroad into a lynch and two people they have to kill as noone will believe that they are scum. Now for some reason scum targets a player that isn't cleared and isn't the finder. Now the finder clears another player as town. That is three players that have to be night killed for scum to have a chance to win. THe longer scum waits to target the finder the more people the finder clears the less likely scum can win.

It is a numbers game. So either scum for whatever reason didn't or couldn't change who they wanted to kill or Emurlahn threw his partner under the bus in a gambit to win the whole thing. With 9 players left it is too early for scum to try this move especially when they sacrifice one of their own. So that leaves the first senario.


this just looks so bad to me, he is clearly a symp wishing his killers were doing something else and just flat out stating what they should be at.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 01:37 PM

Im gonna

vote Atrahal

I can always change to Gamelon if necessary.

I think his play is more in line with that of scum than gamelon.
The only interaction that mockra and He have had was when mockra attacked the person making a case on him.
He possibly was not there last night to change his kill onto the finder.
He seems more self serving here than anything else. Dont see much effort in finding scum but puts allot of posts in whining about how there is no case against him.




All that gamelon has against his name is that he is not here much. And also has zero interaction with mockra.

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