[Omtose]

I never said there was no symp. I said that someone who came back on finds as scum when they are in fact inno is not likely. thats too much of an advantage for the scum. Thats not a symp, thats a bizzaro inno scum role.

Also, how am I setting up lynches? I named 7 of 11 people and named 3 as MY top suspects.

Way to twist my words.

Someone hammer this fool. If he comes back as Inno i will send a sincere apology up to SH. (and a major rant to Shin). But the fact is, Mockra is being lynched today. He has to be.

[Emurlahn]

Actually, from what I read in Ano's link, one of Masamoto's sons may have killed him. So maybe Mockra is taking his role PM and modifying it slightly

[Mockra]

Anomandaris, on 05 December 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

as far as this online source say ashikaga masamoto had three sons, cachemaru, yoshimizu and jonduijo.


http://wiki.samurai-...title=Hojo_Soun


Dont buy your counter reveal.#


edited to put line breakjs in..... why is this happening that it keeps removing my spaces and line breaks and wiping it off if i try to change tabs on my phone? anyone?

That's an interesting site, I looked everywhere for some wiki g to support my role but never even saw mention of Yoshimizu or.Jonduan as.Masamotos sons. In fact in this game Yoshimizu is already the Ashikaga Shogun which doesn't appear to happen till.after Masamoto is dead. So I dunno how the history works out.

[Mockra]

Omtose, on 05 December 2011 - 08:54 PM, said:

I never said there was no symp. I said that someone who came back on finds as scum when they are in fact inno is not likely. thats too much of an advantage for the scum. Thats not a symp, thats a bizzaro inno scum role.

Also, how am I setting up lynches? I named 7 of 11 people and named 3 as MY top suspects.

Way to twist my words.

Someone hammer this fool. If he comes back as Inno i will send a sincere apology up to SH. (and a major rant to Shin). But the fact is, Mockra is being lynched today. He has to be.

No you said.it was impossible for a find result.to be modified.when it's received. But that's exactly.how.a symp role works.

And.yeah by setting.up lynches I mean you lining up targets for a D day lynch.while the finder.reveal is.still untested.

[Tennes]

either way...i would like to hear mockras thoughts on each player before he is lynched at the very least

[Mockra]

Tennes, on 05 December 2011 - 09:01 PM, said:

either way...i would like to hear mockras thoughts on each player before he is lynched at the very least

Well I have to leave for about 30 minutes but I will try when I return (if you fuckers dont lynch me first...).

[Spite]

I too would like to see who Mockra points out as to who he thinks is scum.

Edit: Removed some words so I didn't look like I'm a few rocks short of a full load.

This post has been edited by Spite: 05 December 2011 - 09:05 PM

[Emurlahn]

Sure got quiet in here..

[Spite]

What do you expect? You labeled Mockra as scum with a claim of a find so it's nearly a forgone conclusion that he's toast. Right now I'm just waiting on Mockra to provide us with information that we could use post lynch to help narrow down the rest of scum. Assuming you aren't jerking us around that is.

[Mockra]

Ok sorry, things are crazy here. They are sending everyone home so I should have decent internet soon.

[Tennes]

ok...well im going to bed

[Spite]

PS is around. Good. I was hoping for a vote count and clock update.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4, 16 hours and 24 minutes are left in the day.

11 players alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Spite, Tennes,

6 votes to lynch

5 Votes Mockra: Galain, Emurlahn, Tennes, Anomandaris, Omtose

Players not voting: Atrahal, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Meanas, Mockra, Spite,

[Path-Shaper]

Sorry, you're going to have to wait a bit if someone hammers. I'm getting ready for work and won't be on again for another 4 hours or so.

[Emurlahn]

Could someone in SH resolve? Impatient me.

[Spite]

Well if Mockra doesn't come on in a few hours I'm going to have to hammer before I log off for the day. I won't be back before day times out otherwise. I think I miss it by about a half hour.

[Galain]

Haven't seen much from Mockra that would make me change my mind. His description of his role seems (a) unlikely for an inno to have, and ( not a good reason to avoid lynching him.

By (a) I mean that I think it's a very strange mechanic for an inno's ability to be predicated on the number of remaining scum. Promoting an inno based on the death of someone on the other team doesn't really fit with the scenario or with most sane theories of balance - that death has made the innos more likely to win, and now they get even more firepower? I can't see it. On the other hand, it seems far more likely to be a scum role, since it basically equates to a promotion - once someone on the scum team dies, another scum player gets a vig. Remember that the usual MO when fake revealing is to try to use as much of the truth as you can - I could imagine Mockra taking hihs role description (or perhaps one of one of his teammates') and doctoring slightly to suit his claim.

I guess what I'm saying is perhaps something we should be wary of is the possibility of the scum having an additional vig after one of them dies...might make a big difference in D-Day scenario calculations.

[Mockra]

Ok, finally home.

[Hood's Path]

In before the modkill hammer

[Hood's Path]

Let me look over the case on Mockra before I vote