[Path-Shaper]

Emurlahn, on 17 October 2011 - 04:02 AM, said:

yeah. it's the type of incredible unintuitive gameplay that looks like it's doing great for me, untill at the very end the fact that they aren't on my team comes back to bite me hard.



i'm actually quite shocked that I was able to turn off all heat this well. I mean, I'm guessing gett ing JA lynched got me some thread cred, but seriously?

i'm worried.

and also Forgery sent to Shin with KL's usual message of pretending to be an Emp connecting followers. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 17 October 2011 - 04:44 AM

[HoosierDaddy]

This weekend, the Survivors had to take part in a grueling endurance event. It's called "The Silence Game." The only way to win is to be the last to say something.

Turns out, nearly all of our players are selectively mute during the weekend! Imagine our surprise when nobody said anything!

(Right, I get not being around on the weekends that's fine. But if anybody tries to playoff not writing a damn thing all weekend as "I don't talk during night" stuff that's beyond the pale. The game might as well be frozen at this point during weekends.)

[Jump Around]

Path-Shaper, on 17 October 2011 - 04:40 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 17 October 2011 - 04:02 AM, said:

yeah. it's the type of incredible unintuitive gameplay that looks like it's doing great for me, untill at the very end the fact that they aren't on my team comes back to bite me hard.



i'm actually quite shocked that I was able to turn off all heat this well. I mean, I'm guessing gett ing JA lynched got me some thread cred, but seriously?

i'm worried.

and also Forgery sent to Shin with KL's usual message of pretending to be an Emp connecting followers. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

I thought the Lu players were not supposed to received KL's forgeries? That was one of the ways he was using to test if he found a team mate

[Tattersail_]

The game play has slowed down a little, I am looking forward to tomorrow now because it is the only thing that gets me through the day in work, I love mafia so much.



Plus, JA got lynched


I wish I was still in this game, grrr HP!! Someone take him out!!

[Path-Shaper]

Jump Around, on 17 October 2011 - 07:10 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 17 October 2011 - 04:40 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 17 October 2011 - 04:02 AM, said:

yeah. it's the type of incredible unintuitive gameplay that looks like it's doing great for me, untill at the very end the fact that they aren't on my team comes back to bite me hard.



i'm actually quite shocked that I was able to turn off all heat this well. I mean, I'm guessing gett ing JA lynched got me some thread cred, but seriously?

i'm worried.

and also Forgery sent to Shin with KL's usual message of pretending to be an Emp connecting followers. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

I thought the Lu players were not supposed to received KL's forgeries? That was one of the ways he was using to test if he found a team mate

Yes. Exactly.

<.<

>.>



fixed. (I knew there was some reason it wouldn't work good for Thyr in this case. Confuzzled myself {it was past midnight after all...} because having no emperor with that message would be bad for Thyr already)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 17 October 2011 - 01:06 PM

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Thyrllan, on 17 October 2011 - 01:06 PM, said:

Oh really? I didn't realise...

Oh well,

Provisional Lover's Connection with Ruse then

Cheers :-)

Noted of course


------

Okay, well the thread is pretty dead I've got time to dump some lover convos

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[Path-Shaper]

Thyrllan and Barghast (created by Thyrllan night 3 and broken by Thyrllan night 6):

Path-Shaper, on 06 October 2011 - 12:45 PM, said:

Thyrllan and Barghast, you can now communicate off-thread in this PM convo at all times.

Barghast, on 06 October 2011 - 02:04 PM, said:

hey there!

Barghast, on 06 October 2011 - 04:56 PM, said:

OK, on my current tile, Yong An, there was a notice saying:

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Osseric is Zhang Xiu, Emperor

. That would make him Emperor of Lu.

Ruse, Mockra, Silanah were present at the same tile at some point in time. Silanah is immediately attacking, so I guess they got the notice, are not Lu and are therefore most likely Yan. Ruse hasn't done anything, yet. Mockra hasn't been on.

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 03:49 AM, said:

Hi!

Still trying to catch up on posts. Shit's going down. Looks like Silanah's a finder though.

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 04:19 AM, said:

Christ, I literally don't have any to finish reading the damn thread. I'll be back on later. Sorry!

Barghast, on 07 October 2011 - 08:21 AM, said:

Dude, those two posts of yours weren't helpful at all, we should use this temporary feature a whole lot better.

Forget the thread for a second. Imnsho, the only thing you can do on thread anyway is make/find slips and push lynches, but all the juicy stuff that will win the game will happen behind the scenes at night.

I earlier give you info that Silanah perhaps acted on a notice being posted. Since the wording was the exact same as Osseric just revealed except with the name of Emurlahn in it, it was fairly clear that they were acting on the notice, whether they were the one who posted it on the Yong An tile or not.

There are a few things we must do before this chat expires: exchange who we know within our faction, what our own role is, and our locations.

I'm Wei Yan. I can do finds, heals and guards, and can each night choose two out of finds, guards and kills. That night (unless I'm guarded, I guess) those two abilities are then blocked on my tile. I also know where the Emperor is, and each day, he learns who (role names, not alts) is at my location, so I'm pretty useful in hunting down the Usurper, too - since the Emperor will know if Sima Yi is in my tile.


Info-wise, our boss knows me and I know him.

So far, each night, I've blocked kills, and when the Emperor isn't on my tile, I've healed him. Thanks to someone's ability (the Yan fleet moving), I'm now in Xin Du.

Now help me out, tell me something other than the fact you lack of time.

We need to end the day wiser of our faction's position than we started it without making it one big massive loss of the use of our Emperor's ability, dammit.

Barghast, on 07 October 2011 - 12:32 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 11:40 AM, said:

Calm the fuck down. While your voluble information seems to suggest that we're on the same team, you'll have to forgive me for being tad suspicious. And demanding information from me is not exactly making me feel particularly comfortable about this.

How much do you know about this Lover Convo thing? Is it only til day's end or what? I don't know if you've just pulled shit out of your arse have gathered enough info about my faction to sound suitably realistic or not.

Ehm, may I point out we already lost half a day of time with, let's be honest, zero, zilch result? That's a not so very effective/ constructive use of what could be a very valuable ability.
According to my info, it only lasts is until day's end. I didn't initiate it, the Emperor did - I got a message from P-S saying so, and frankly, I find it somewhat odd you don't. Have you checked with D'rek?


The message I received said the Emperor allowed two of his underlings to communicate for a day. Now, that info does suggest that we are both on the same team. You have my name, I can guess you know my position within the Yan dynasty, so I have no clue what more info you could possibly want except perhaps confirmation that we have the same Emperor, but I'll be damned if I am going to reveal who that is, I do have some sense of caution.

And why didn't you ask for confirmation or anything to begin with, but instead wasted half a day - because I have been assuming you got the same starting convo as I did?

Path-Shaper, on 13 October 2011 - 04:33 AM, said:

This conversation is now ended. You may no longer speak in this thread.

[Jump Around]

Hahaha, this exchange is gold.

[Path-Shaper]

The rest of Zhang Xiu/Osseric and Jia Xu/Galain up to Osseric's lynch:

Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 05:54 AM, said:

It might be time to go after Okaros, and Barghast, who's likely a low-lying PM.

I'm going to have to carefully extract myself from getting into a pissing match with Emurlahn, as that can only end poorly for me. Attack him if you like, but I'm going to stay away, so as not to create a connection between us.

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 06:16 AM, said:

Of course, don't defend me!

I have asked Rashan (through Thyrllan) to vig Okaros. If he's within reach of your find, he's within reach of his vig. Let's see what happens.

For tonight, who are you investigating?

Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 06:22 AM, said:

Hood's Path.

Random, but that's the point - I'm focusing on people with a low-profile so that it'll reduce the chance that I'll be blocked. Besides, the people who are most vocal will give away plenty in thread.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Okaros has a BP - he's the leader of a likely rather small faction, after all, and a BP is good for balance in that case. But it'll be good to use up that BP, since he's no friend of ours.

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 06:25 AM, said:

Yes, I told Rashan to vig away as long as it takes

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:

Did you manage a find last night?

Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 08:23 PM, said:

Nope. Didn't go through.

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 08:28 PM, said:

Well, I'm going down, sorry

I told Thyrllan who you were, he's obviously with us, and you guys need all the info.

Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 11:07 PM, said:

I'm trying to save you by crawling over Meanas' dead body, but I don't know if it'll work. Emurlahn and Silanah are strongly feeling like team-mates, playing exactly as they've accused you and others of playing, follow-the-leader style.

I really, really hope Meanas is in a Barbarian faction and didn't just make a dumb mistake, or I'll look like suspicious as hell. With our luck, though, they'll probably turn out to be Lu.

Now I just need to figure out how to attack Barghast based on his insider knowledge of Emperor's powers, without making it obvious I have the same knowledge. Okaros should be easier to attack, their contentless posting history makes them suspicious as hell.

Galain, on 07 October 2011 - 01:25 AM, said:

I don't necessarily think Meanas can take me down ... but I realized there's one other way in which they could have been sent their Prime Minister's name - if they're an Emperor. Something to keep in mind.

So the two most likely candidates for Emperors or PMs are Barghast and Meanas, and we know Okaros leads a Barbarian faction.

Galain, on 07 October 2011 - 05:17 AM, said:

I don't know if there's time, but if you can get Thyrllan to send me a legit CO/MO Role PM, I can bluff my way through this if they start getting to wonder why mine might be different.

Also, if it ever looks like I'm about to be hammered, I'm taking Barghast (likely Emperor or PM) and Okaros (identified as Barbarian leader) down with me in a full reveal, just to fuck with everybody.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 05:24 AM, said:

Thyrllan is not a CO/MO, but I can ask him if he can send you inside info in an "innocent" role PM.

You won't go down today, but I agree that if you ever do, reveal Okaros and accuse Barghast.

Thyrllan is communicating with Barghast, here is what he was told:

Quote

OK, on my current tile, Yong An, there was a notice saying:

Quote

Osseric is Zhang Xiu, Emperor. That would make him Emperor of Lu.

Ruse, Mockra, Silanah were present at the same tile at some point in time. Silanah is immediately attacking, so I guess they got the notice, are not Lu and are therefore most likely Yan. Ruse hasn't done anything, yet. Mockra hasn't been on.

Hence the pressure I'm getting, and hence the post I just made. It's desperate, but we'll see.

We have someone in Yong An, so it's either (in my order of preference) Mockra, Ruse, Barghast and Silanah way down

Galain, on 07 October 2011 - 06:11 AM, said:

You really need to soft-play that bluff, and say that you aren't sure if it's true or not, but that you can't afford to take any chances.

There's a good chance we could take out Meanas today, but getting suspected of fabricating off-thread communications might swing the votes back towards you.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 06:19 AM, said:

Bah, if I don't try to disrupt the effect of this Notice, it will be me after Meanas. So me-Meanas or Meanas-me, in the long term it's the same.

I'll stop now. I do have a busy day anyways.

[Path-Shaper]

Last of Rashan and Thyrllan before Rashan gets killed:

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 09:50 PM, said:

Sorry, I will start avoiding them : P .

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 10:55 PM, said:

Eeep. Again, sorry P-S

Oh well, it would have been funny if it was true about the avatars. It kept be occupied when I couldn't sleep last night, anyway.

Will do, I'll let him know and ask him about his powers. He's a wee bit cagey on that front, not that I blame him.

Mostly my personal thoughts of the game consist of 'fuck, I don't know what I'm doing!' and flailing. Tiam needs to go. Emur too, I think. What do you reckon?

No idea about the meanings, I'll go look at the context and have a think.
(I've just woken up, can you tell?)

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:23 PM, said:

btw, just fucking hammer Tiam.

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:50 PM, said:

Nah, better to let someone else do it later is my guess.

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

I don't really want to catch flack for hammering Tiam too early, you see.

Rashan, on 05 October 2011 - 11:56 PM, said:

You are probably making yourself more suspicious though by holding off. Just a thought. But I guess it could be damned if you do, damned if you don't at this point. Any news from Osseric?

Thyrllan, on 06 October 2011 - 03:57 AM, said:

Nah, none at this point. I think I'm going to miss day's end too. Might be able to log in from work though. Argh.

Thyrllan, on 06 October 2011 - 08:57 AM, said:

From Osseric:

If it's not too late, tell him thank for the heal support, but I have a BP so I am covered for a bit; he can become MO and start vigging.

For my role, I can suppress a place, i.e. guard everyone in the same city, as long as someone from our team is present there. If he could succeed in vigging Okaros, he should go back to his original city so I can block this fronteer if needed.

and from me,
Adios dear lover! Hope the game goes well. If you need to send me a notice, put GH in it somewhere and I'll use KL.

[Path-Shaper]

The rest of Thyr and Osseric up to Osseric lynch:

Thyrllan, on 05 October 2011 - 10:57 PM, said:

Right, so GH says a couple of things which I'm going to copy/paste because I'm too lazy to rewrite it anyway:

1) Let JA know that if he needs healing support, send out the message "xToes" (heel and toe) and I will begin healing him each night to protect his BPs (if he has any).

2) If JA can describe his powers, that would help me understand what our enemies are capable of.

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 04:57 AM, said:

If it's not too late, tell him thank for the heal support, but I have a BP so I am covered for a bit; he can become MO and start vigging.

For my role, I can suppress a place, i.e. guard everyone in the same city, as long as someone from our team is present there. If he could succeed in vigging Okaros, he should go back to his original city so I can block this fronteer if needed.

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 10:36 AM, said:

Whatever you do, don't defend me. Emurlahn has connected me to all the wrong people, let's keep it this way.

Don't feel obliged to attack me either though :-p

Thyrllan, on 06 October 2011 - 10:59 AM, said:

I wasn't intending to, I figured you'd do a better job of it yourself. I'm fairly sure I can find something else to talk about in all of that!

What do you reckon about this vote blocking thing?

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 12:31 PM, said:

I honestly have no clue. Nothing in my role suggests something like this could happen, but it's a bizarre game.

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:

Hmm, so it seems that Barbarians have some sort of anti-vig defense Well that sucks, I was thinking maybe a BP but that's a bit extreme.

I feel bad for Rashan

Did you manage with Barghast?

Osseric, on 06 October 2011 - 08:26 PM, said:

I have to say I'm not fully certain what's happening.

I attacked an Emperor, I'm quite sure. No way people can believe Silanah's ass case on me, even in a mode where people are more than happy when the target is not themselves, I would be way more careful than that.

Silanah might be a finder, but why she reveals me as Yan? Strange that. It's actually pretty smart, her people know I'm not their emperor, and the Yan people also, so will be happy to vote. That's what I would reveal if I was a finder.

Meh. By the way, Galain is the PM.

I'll try to get Silanah lynched after me as a finder , and hopefully will reveal that Karosis is a barbarian before the hammer, assuming they let me.

Sorry and good luck!

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 01:32 AM, said:

From Barghast, not sure if this helps you any. You might want to pass it on to Galain, and I'll make a bond with him if you're getting lynched today (sorry, haven't read the thread yet, but it sounds pretty bad)

Quote

OK, on my current tile, Yong An, there was a notice saying:

Quote

Osseric is Zhang Xiu, Emperor. That would make him Emperor of Lu.

Ruse, Mockra, Silanah were present at the same tile at some point in time. Silanah is immediately attacking, so I guess they got the notice, are not Lu and are therefore most likely Yan. Ruse hasn't done anything, yet. Mockra hasn't been on.

So someone's done a find.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 05:00 AM, said:

Ah, that explains a lot. Thank you!
I'll go and try something.... (famous last words)

We have a CO in Yong An. So Ruse, Mockra or Silanah. Obviously not Silanah, probably not Ruse. Maybe Mockra or Barghast?

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 06:23 AM, said:

You're not looking as bad as I thought you were from your last message. I'll be home from work in two hours, and find a reason to vote Meanas and to try and push for his lynch if I can. I'm going to get into trouble for being too quiet soon.

I've message Barghast back. For some reason people seem to take my ability to pair with them as a given that I'm in their team.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 06:32 AM, said:

Did he get your Forgery? We do have a team mate at Yong An, that we haven't figured out yet.

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 08:48 AM, said:

Shit, I forgot to ask. Crappity crappity crap. I need to figure out how to work that into conversation somehow. Also, more information:

Quote

Dude, those two posts of yours weren't helpful at all, we should use this temporary feature a whole lot better.

Forget the thread for a second. Imnsho, the only thing you can do on thread anyway is make/find slips and push lynches, but all the juicy stuff that will win the game will happen behind the scenes at night.

I earlier give you info that Silanah perhaps acted on a notice being posted. Since the wording was the exact same as Osseric just revealed except with the name of Emurlahn in it, it was fairly clear that they were acting on the notice, whether they were the one who posted it on the Yong An tile or not.

There are a few things we must do before this chat expires: exchange who we know within our faction, what our own role is, and our locations.

I'm Wei Yan. I can do finds, heals and guards, and can each night choose two out of finds, guards and kills. That night (unless I'm guarded, I guess) those two abilities are then blocked on my tile. I also know where the Emperor is, and each day, he learns who (role names, not alts) is at my location, so I'm pretty useful in hunting down the Usurper, too - since the Emperor will know if Sima Yi is in my tile.


Info-wise, our boss knows me and I know him.

So far, each night, I've blocked kills, and when the Emperor isn't on my tile, I've healed him. Thanks to someone's ability (the Yan fleet moving), I'm now in Xin Du.

Now help me out, tell me something other than the fact you lack of time.

We need to end the day wiser of our faction's position than we started it without making it one big massive loss of the use of our Emperor's ability, dammit.

Maybe I don't need to ask him about the forgery, if his boss knows him, then it's not him that's on out team haha. I'm just worried about it sounding awkward. I could play cagey and be suspicious of him. Although the fact that he and his Emperor know each other worries me because it suggests that they may be in contact.

Unless he's lying. Which is a possibility.

Grumpy bugger.
Now, how much shit do I feel like making up about my role? I suppose if I get caught out he can't exactly call me out for it on thread. Although I don't particularly want to be night killed.
Interesting that he hasn't named the emperor. Fair enough I suppose.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 10:15 AM, said:

Haha, your role is awesome, I'm jealous.

I don't know what to say, really. He's obviously Yan.

You can suggest to him, about the wording, that maybe someone is going around getting the high-posters against each other by sending these fake notices. That's what I'm trying to do on thread, but I don't want to push it too much.

Or maybe not, let me get out of my hole I dug myself into

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 10:29 AM, said:

I had a thought, but I wanted to check with you first.

I was thinking for my reply to Bargast I'd play dumb and suspicious, see what he has to say to that, and if he demands more info, say that Okaros is Ma Cho the warlord. Even if he doesn't necessarily believe me, at least he'll have the suspicion of it and may be trying to get him lynched/vigged. Besides, if they try to vig him, they'll lose a man too, like poor Rashan, which is a bonus for us.

[Path-Shaper]

Thyr/Osseric cont'd:

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 11:17 AM, said:

That's a good idea. And your best defense is indeed to play suspicious and reluctant to send him info about you.

Hopefully he will try to convince you by sending even more information, and then you can stay silent for the rest of the day (it shouldn't too long left) and just disconnect at night.

And telling him about Okaros is excellent.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 11:22 AM, said:

Thyrllan, does your role specifically say you can't send Notices?

I missed the part in the OP where it said that, I'm just wondering if saying that on thread will make it worse.

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 11:35 AM, said:

No it doesn't, why?

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 11:36 AM, said:

Hmm, too late, I think I'l get lynched.

Is it too late not to tell Barghast about Okaros? I will reveal in on thread at L-1. I'd rather him not hearing it twice, from me on thread and from you.

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 11:38 AM, said:

Nope, that's fine I won't tell him. I've been wading through the thread slowly, unfortunately, so haven't finished the reply. Lame, eh?

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 11:40 AM, said:

No, you're playing smarter than me

Actually, it's only 5-5 the votes. I think me staying silent is the best thing to do now.

Just one thing, maybe if I'm at L-1, mention that I promised to come back before time out and to wait for the hammer - if no-one else does.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 11:41 AM, said:

If I get hammered before I can reveal, then do mention Okaros to Barghast before disconnecting.

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 11:51 AM, said:

Eeep, finally reached the end of thread.

Piss on a stick. Two votes in a row is just plain unfair. Now I have to go and try and build a case on Meanus and not look like a symp.

Do you have any idea how much of day we have left?

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 11:54 AM, said:

Actually I don't. I think not too much though

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 12:07 PM, said:

Wait, this promise that you made about coming back before the hammer, whereabouts did you make it. I've skimmed quite a hell of a lot and I don't remember it Would look a bit weird if I couldn't find it.

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 12:07 PM, said:

Or I could just read the thread again. *stupid*
Sorry, I think it's almost bedtime for me!

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 12:52 PM, said:

Christ I hope Meanas isn't Barghast's Emperor. Else I'm in trouble. I'm just going to vote Meanas, plead lack of time (again) for lack of content and get some sleep. I think I've screwed up on the Barghast thing anyway. He's not pleased bahaha.I think I'm going to miss they lynch and I'm worried I'm not going to help. Humbug

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Secret double agent life has its moments of stress

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 07:18 PM, said:

Damn right it does. Aaaand I was right. Should be interesting!

I'm tempted to create a bond with Emur, just to see if he freaks out. Judging from someone or other's breakdown of character mechanics earlier, it looks highly likely that my role is unique.

[Path-Shaper]

last of it...

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 07:23 PM, said:

Yes, don't forget your Forgery.

I think I will get lynched, sorry. I tried to block the fronteer cities to avoid the finds, but I couldn't cover both at all times, and with Rashan moving to the capital, it left a big hole on the right (although ironically, the find seemed to arrive from Yong An. I'm not sure how that's possible considering my supressing this city)

I will reveal at L-1, because I need to say about Okaros.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

Feel free to change your vote now. I'm out of plans, and definitively unsavable.

There's no smooth way for you to do the change, but it will get you more attention if you just stay on Meanas I think.

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 07:27 PM, said:

Yeah, Barghast got my forgery, by the way. So it's working anyway.

*sadface* That's looking highly likely.
It's been fun while it lasted, oh Emperor!

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 07:32 PM, said:

Enjoy

If everytime you pair with someone they assume you are with them, I'm not sure what you can do now with the information (although we still have a CO what I didn't identify), but at least that's one less person to attack you for being Lu.

Thyrllan, on 07 October 2011 - 08:13 PM, said:

Exactly. Though Barghast might want to attack me anyway. Which will be entertaining.

Do you know what tile the CO is on? Not that it really matters, I suppose. I only have the vaguest idea of how that's working anyway.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 08:39 PM, said:

Our CO is in Yong An. Check your PM with Barghast, he said Ruse, Mockra, Silanah were present there at some point in time.


Silanah I doubt, Mockra or Ruse, I'm not certain.

Osseric, on 07 October 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

FFS, I wanted to reveal Okaros at L-1, but it never comes

soooo tired, must get to sleep...

At the end, screw that. Reveal Okaros to your next pair if you feel it, hopefully they also lose a MO trying to vig him. At the end, we're far from ahead, specially if I get lynched, so the Warlords wrecking havoc will help. Plus, we have that info in the pocket for later in the game if it becomes handy.

I'm going to bed, good luck! Don't forget to pair also with Galain.

[Path-Shaper]

Thyr and Galain:

Path-Shaper, on 11 October 2011 - 05:05 AM, said:

Thyrllan and Galain, you may communicate in this thread at all times.

(This should've been made after night 4 but I was rushing through it to get to Thanksgiving madness and missed it. Sorry)

Thyrllan, on 11 October 2011 - 05:10 AM, said:

Greetings. So we're discussing the succession I believe?

Galain, on 11 October 2011 - 08:25 AM, said:

More like the failuression. We've been hurt bad, I'm afraid.

I'm about to head to bed - no idea what time zone you're in, but it's rather late here, and I'll be more coherent to get you caught up about my suspicions and theories in the morning. My morning. And I wouldn't mind seeing what comes of Night - the lack of NKs actually has me worried, because it throws me off of how a really large game should be proceeding. There should be piles of corpses by now. I'm used to that, not this ... nothing happening-ness.

The worst part is that the only NK was one of our guys. Figures.

Thyrllan, on 11 October 2011 - 08:37 AM, said:

Just a little bit...
And we're both had a wee bit of heat too, which doesn't help us much. Here's to corpses. And corpses not being us...
I'm heading to sleep early myself.
I'm King Lear, by the way.
Talk to you later!

Galain, on 11 October 2011 - 07:10 PM, said:

All right, just wanted to wait until I got a Find on you, to make sure you were legit. At least for now.

In any case, I'm the PM, if Osseric didn't tell you. I've been finding every Night, but have only gotten two results -

Okaros is Mao Chao, leader of the Mao Chao warlord faction.

And my other successful Find was on you. I've gotten no results from the other attempts. And I can't move out of Han Zhong, due to my age.

As well, Barghast made a "guess" that Emperors have a blanket-Guard power on a given location. Well, they do, and there's really just no way he could have guessed that at random. So he's got inside information on Emperor powers, making him likely a PM or an Emperor.

Thyrllan, on 11 October 2011 - 09:47 PM, said:

Osseric did tell me, just before he was lynched.

I've got a bit of info on Barghast, I'm just not sure if it's true or not.

Quote

I'm Wei Yan. I can do finds, heals and guards, and can each night choose two out of finds, guards and kills. That night (unless I'm guarded, I guess) those two abilities are then blocked on my tile. I also know where the Emperor is, and each day, he learns who (role names, not alts) is at my location, so I'm pretty useful in hunting down the Usurper, too - since the Emperor will know if Sima Yi is in my tile.

Info-wise, our boss knows me and I know him.

So far, each night, I've blocked kills, and when the Emperor isn't on my tile, I've healed him. Thanks to someone's ability (the Yan fleet moving), I'm now in Xin Du.

He believed that I'm on his team apparently. I don't know if he still does, because I was, um, less than forthcoming about my own information.

And also, if he was an Emperor or PM he could have easily found that the message I sent him prior was blatantly untrue.

Thyrllan, on 12 October 2011 - 11:17 AM, said:

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You may or may not be aware, but Emperors can forge telephone lines for a day between two of their minions. I've been chatting to a colleague of mine, who was so kind to tell me he received an Illumination with this information. I don't know the exact mechanicof the Illumination but I do know the results: it tells you who is at your location at time X. You and he shared it.

Lies! Damn lies! He had a connection with ME that I made, the bastard!

Thyrllan, on 12 October 2011 - 11:21 AM, said:

Although... He's just made my job a damn sight easier. If you have anyone you think I should try and make lover connection with to try and weasel some information out of them, let me know. I still need to break the connection with Barghast, which I forgot about, but that won't be a problem.

[Path-Shaper]

Karosis/Gongsun Zan and Korlat/Zhao Yun
(3 pages worth of PMs)

Korlat, on 05 October 2011 - 11:03 PM, said:

I'll most likely be heading off to sleep in about an hour, is there a particular area you think it would be advantageous to move towards? I was thinking towards Yan although depending on how far the other rebels have reached towards Lu could work as well, either way being on a border between two area's will hopefully give me a greater chance of my NK's hitting, I tried to NK Rashan last night to no effect.

Korlat, on 06 October 2011 - 01:14 AM, said:

Hey i'm off to sleep I'm going to move to He Fei, i'll submit so I can move before trying my NK, sorry if you would rather go in the other direction but I figure that the Yan's are one of the larger faction and at least them we have chance of hitting them and Xia still who will possibly be a man down once tiam is lynched.

Karosis, on 06 October 2011 - 07:24 AM, said:

im happy going wherever... Im not overly focused on position that much.

as long as we stick together we will be allot harder to kill.

Im also a move behind you....let me know if your move is successful.

Karosis, on 06 October 2011 - 01:11 PM, said:

since i could not go to He Fei today i can only assume you could not do so yesterday either.

wich means we are both still on that other one....


Did you nuke Rashan again?

Korlat, on 06 October 2011 - 05:18 PM, said:

Yeah I have failed to move as well...mafia reflecting life perhaps.

Nope that was not me, I attempted to NK Ruse, I thought I better switch targets in case my NK on Rashan failed due to distance.

Korlat, on 06 October 2011 - 09:01 PM, said:

Should we try to move in the opposite direction or go for He Fei again? God all these names are confusing as hell.

Path-Shaper, on 06 October 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

You guys should really give the Move rules a re-read. (or maybe I just don't get your strategy...)

Korlat, on 06 October 2011 - 09:18 PM, said:

So we must kill all enemies before moving or have someone we know in another place, well we can't be in the deserted city then. I like the idea of killing all our enemies I have to say though.

Karosis, on 07 October 2011 - 08:22 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 06 October 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

You guys should really give the Move rules a re-read. (or maybe I just don't get your strategy...)

those rules are fkn complicated.


what do you think we are confusing/getting wrong?

Korlat, on 10 October 2011 - 08:45 PM, said:

Last night I targeted Emur and failed, did you get a notice as well? We need to clear the area of enemies before we can move apparently. I'm going to go through the thread a bit more I've not had much of a chance to and feel rather lost on the whole, if you think there is anyone that we should target and think they're nearby let me know.

All this revealing locations/roles is getting me slightly nervous.

Korlat, on 11 October 2011 - 01:16 AM, said:

I didn't really get very far what with the whole strange goings on in the thread and day ending so quickly, I've attempted to NK Ruse.

This is really weird, I wonder what tile they targeted, my worry is that it was a barabaria spot so here or that other one on Lu lands .

I could be dead right now. I could be alive. I feel like Schrodinger's cat, never thought i'd feel sorry for one of those little buggers.

Karosis, on 11 October 2011 - 06:35 AM, said:

havent had internet for the past 24 hours....gonna catch up.

Karosis, on 11 October 2011 - 02:10 PM, said:

Korlat, on 11 October 2011 - 01:16 AM, said:

This is really weird, I wonder what tile they targeted, my worry is that it was a barabaria spot so here or that other one on Lu lands .

I could be dead right now. I could be alive. I feel like Schrodinger's cat, never thought i'd feel sorry for one of those little buggers.

oh come now...you have a BP dont you

Karosis, on 11 October 2011 - 02:11 PM, said:

you probbaly got this message aswell but just in case...got this from PS


Illumination - on Night 5, the following alts were in Luo Yang:

Atrahal
Emurlahn
Hood's Path
Karosis
Kessobahn
Korlat
Telas

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:

i think omtose managed to do a find on me....

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 08:01 AM, said:

Yeah the only way to explain him completely misinterpreting your post, I tried to point this out in a passive way so as not to draw any attention in amongst other suspicions, I'm wondering if Emur is an emperor after all, looking at that list, it would be good if we could move but with these many people around that doesn't seem likely but more than one illumination with us not budging will look suspicious.

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 08:24 AM, said:

dont try and protect me at all on thread....if i go down because of this "find" then so be it.

but dont get involved it will only connect us.

[Path-Shaper]

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 08:25 AM, said:

you think we should move?

you have a few kill options here for tonight thought with that illumination!

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 08:34 AM, said:

hopefully i can use his blatant misinterpretation of what i said to my advantage.

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 06:18 PM, said:

Yeah moving tonight wouldn't be a good idea since I have a good list of targets there but after tonight if we can it might make sense. I'm trying just to talk about the whole things without it coming across as if I have a vested interest in either, it seems to be hanging in the balance at the moment but if I need to switch last minute I suppose i'd have to, it's feel awful though.

I might try for Telas, he isn't getting much heat on thread and people might think someone was gunning for a barbarian so it covers us in that regard. Of course someone may be guarding him, so either telas or maybe kess.

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 06:44 PM, said:

well i could get lynched...fair enough a finder can do that...unlucky.


If it comes to L-1 for me i am going to reveal.

im not a threat to anyone as i can only heal whereas a finder is much more dangerous to most playing.

i will reveal that i am exactly who he claims and is a finder and is therefore more dangerous than myself.

buy myself a day at least..maybe

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 07:13 PM, said:

Ah fuck

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

yea you probably laid it on a bit thick there mate

they spotted you

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 07:17 PM, said:

I'm sorry

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

hah..dont apologize to me

they will soon forget you dont you worry.


if i get lynched i will make a big noise about omtose being a finder im sure he will go next.

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 07:22 PM, said:

I'm still too clumsy I think hahah

I hope they forget me I really do but this lot are baying for any blood that isn't their own.

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

just make sure you vote for me if it looks like im definitely gonna get lynched

i think if silanah changes to omtose he will be the one to go.

if someone else comes on and votes for me then i will be the one to be lynched.

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

aaand we have a glimmer of hope.

although tomorrow they will see he is a finder and will know i am who he said i am.

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 08:23 PM, said:

and then I shall of course have to act outraged although by then it might be too late ah well, fingers crossed.

Don't suppose he could be of the Ma dudes (we really have a much cooler name than them)

What do you think of Telas or Kess as possibly NK targets, maybe HP if he votes wrong

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 08:26 PM, said:

im thinking ehmurlan


kess and telas have been playing nicely.


I dunno....actually anybody will do....looks like its just me and you against the world so just killem all dude..kill'em all!!

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 08:35 PM, said:

I have Emur pegged as an emperor, more a feeling though than anything solid and I tried and failed to kill him once before. If he was someone would have been covering him/will be. I think he'd be Xia. This is idle speculation though.

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

i also have him pegged as emperor...probably right on the protection thing

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 08:47 PM, said:

This is another pure speculation and I don't know if I am allowed sharing thoughts on meta things but if Omtose is who I think he is then with a little luck he might not be around until it is a little late. I hope anyway. I'm probably jumping to wrong conclusions here, what's new?

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 08:55 PM, said:

according to his posting times it will be cutting it close.

i cant wait any longer myself...going to bed now.


If he comes on he will most likely reveal.
See how the thread takes it before posing anything, but if they decide to go for me try and get a vote in on me to salvage SOMETHING for yourself.

good night

[Path-Shaper]

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

Ah well shit but it least looks like he is implicating HP.

I want to see a couple of reactions before posting though, i don't want to suggest still getting him because that'll implicate me but don't want to seem to early like I am gunning for you in case it helps to swing it again.

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

yea...stay FAR away right now....it would be best to simply hammer me if it came to that..but otherwise its best to simply not get involved. HP has taken the spotlight.

Karosis, on 12 October 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

im not goig to say anymore....there is nothing more i can say without seeming desperate....

it looks like the more omtose talks the more he diggs a hole for himself.

good night....again

Korlat, on 12 October 2011 - 10:33 PM, said:

Yes I am have a pretend emergency right now which is keeping me away from the thread, shame that. (I am actually off to do stuff but still)

Night, I hope to see you in the morning. I'll try and stay up until the hammer so if I need to hammer you I can and apologise for disappearing and being late to the party but thank god for the cynicism.

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:21 AM, said:

hahaha...classic...he wasnt a finder.

now we can just ride the wave of shit he left behind,


He must have either gotten the info from the real finder or he has a find abilities as an assassin too.

Or he tried to kill me and it failed and he gets info if it fails...either way he is dead.

heh heh

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

i will probably still get lynch from the mere suspicion of being a barabrian tho.

games like this are merciless.

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

I know i am fucked but im just having fun now....messing with them.

heh heh.

Korlat, on 13 October 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

OKay so I tried to kill Kess and got this last night

Block - you blocked an enemy force


Not sure what this is trying to say exactly.


Do you want me to reveal your location from the illumination to distance, a few will know it.

Korlat, on 13 October 2011 - 05:42 PM, said:

OKay so I tried to kill Kess and got this last night

Block - you blocked an enemy force


Not sure what this is trying to say exactly.


Do you want me to reveal your location from the illumination to distance, a few will know it.

Korlat, on 13 October 2011 - 05:43 PM, said:

Seriously? Gah it said it didn't send.

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:23 PM, said:

clicked post twice.


yea...i think you should lay a early vote on me now....get some distance..

there is no shaking this label i have stuck on me and its a losing battle.

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

good post and vote on me....that should make some people think twice about connecting us two if you make it closer to end game.

Korlat, on 13 October 2011 - 07:13 PM, said:

okay early vote laid but i've tried to point out some other things, plant unease etc in the post about HP and galain to a lesser extent as well in the hopes it will get people thinking.

It feels horrible voting for your own team, is there anything you are allowed to tell me that may help if the worst comes to the worst? I fear if they remember the link suggested yesterday i'll be next, I can definitely see people doing finds on me now, I just have to hope they are blocked in some way. Our faction doesn't seem to have as many advantages as others, does it? I mean even military officers/ civil officers can switch between finds and kills, we should have some awesome barbarian powers of freakiness!

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 07:26 PM, said:

all i can do is heal.
Im allowed to tell you anything and everything.
I just dont have any info for you that at my disposal that i havent already given you.


its not like i am the messiah's second coming.
i gain your kill ability when you die though.
nothing to write home about.

One of those officials on the other team have more options than me....sux


i fear we got the raw end of the deal, and omtose's find really screwed the pooch for us.

I would say that all you can hope for after i am gone is that they dont consider you dangerous and start gobbling each other up.
You still have that BP wich will help...just try not get lynched and kill as much as you can....meh.

And dont worry about voting your team mate....in fact we should have done it long ago...its standard practice mate

Korlat, on 13 October 2011 - 07:31 PM, said:

Oh NKs how useful you are

I want to exit this game having killed at least one person for fuck sake.

Cool well we shall just have to hope I can semi slip under the radar once more and pick off likely targets, any idea who the other barbarians might be? Shame we couldn't have joined up and formed a barbarian supergroup, released a greatest hits album which would have included nothing of course since there are no successful NKs. Ah well, what could have been.

[Path-Shaper]

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

Korlat, on 13 October 2011 - 07:31 PM, said:

Oh NKs how useful you are

I want to exit this game having killed at least one person for fuck sake.

Cool well we shall just have to hope I can semi slip under the radar once more and pick off likely targets, any idea who the other barbarians might be? Shame we couldn't have joined up and formed a barbarian supergroup, released a greatest hits album which would have included nothing of course since there are no successful NKs. Ah well, what could have been.

"formed a barbarian supergroup, released a greatest hits album"

hahahahaaaa


I have no idea.....we have been stuck on this tile the entire game...no way of telling who is who without any finds.


Not only where we stuck on the edge of the map, the smallest group, with very little fire power,....but we didnt even have a little finder to help us find stuff....FML

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 07:37 PM, said:

ehmur has been symping me for a while now...funny that

Korlat, on 13 October 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

Hahaha I was just thinking that, you know your replies have been pretty logical, I mean it is strange that omtose threatened to tell all then gave everyone enough time to lynch him dead, he had ample time to spill some secrets.

I was just thinking that, he must think you are in his faction, the vote might just swing yet, emur seems to have a lot of influence as much as he denies it, makes me think he may in fact be the Yan emperor instead of Xia which I had assumed. Bloody bastards the lot of them .

There was someone else I thought might have been an emperor but my yuckiness has driven it out of my mind completely. Atrahal maybe.

Korlat, on 13 October 2011 - 07:50 PM, said:

Maybe I could get a job with Ma Chao I could see that interview going really well


- So, last job, references


Sorry no can do I killed my boss, you know what it's like in this tough industry of barbarianism.


- True that


- Sorry ladyboy your application has been unsuccessful.


Ah well it could be worse I could be quite clearly delirious and speaking a lot of shite...

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 08:07 PM, said:

Korlat, on 13 October 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

Hahaha I was just thinking that, you know your replies have been pretty logical, I mean it is strange that omtose threatened to tell all then gave everyone enough time to lynch him dead, he had ample time to spill some secrets.



in action games....epsecially ones with like 5 factions...logic doesnt mean shit.

.

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I was just thinking that, he must think you are in his faction, the vote might just swing yet, emur seems to have a lot of influence as much as he denies it, makes me think he may in fact be the Yan emperor instead of Xia which I had assumed. Bloody bastards the lot of them .

There was someone else I thought might have been an emperor but my yuckiness has driven it out of my mind completely. Atrahal maybe.

yea emur seems to have a few followers.

Korlat, on 14 October 2011 - 03:14 PM, said:

You're aliveeeee! Rejoice!

And with the weekend coming up it might prove advantageous, hopefully.

I put the NK on Kess again after that blocked notice, sounds like we both tried for each other so I thought it could be a good idea.

Karosis, on 14 October 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

looks like i made it another day.

I will eventually get lynched there is no doubt about that...so dont show any merci towards me...hit me every time someone says something bad about me.... its best to look like we are not friends at all from here on out.


but for now.....heh heh....im still here

Karosis, on 14 October 2011 - 03:16 PM, said:

im gonna heal you from here on out i think.

ive got a bp still...but i want to preserve yours for as long as possible.

so dont worry about getting nk'd any time soon.

Korlat, on 14 October 2011 - 03:19 PM, said:

I shall be your No 1 non-fan.
Admit it you've slipped them all roofies .

This tendency to sidle away from death hints is quite interesting, I suppose if the player isn't on their team they're scared he's actually targeted someone important in their faction.

Karosis, on 14 October 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

i just talked them into submission.

using "logic"...hehe


but it cant last forever...they probably dont feel too threatened by the barbarians. Just using it as an excuse to go after anyone they wish.


also...because there are so many tribes its hard for them to come to a common consensus with regards to me.

remember there are liike 5 different agendas.

Karosis, on 14 October 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:

a little fake symp of galain right at the end there...hopefully confuse them even more

Karosis, on 14 October 2011 - 04:03 PM, said:

wait....HP tried to kil me last night im fairly sure.


i think maybe a self heal is needed...or should i try amd save your BP?


i dont think you are going to get targeted tonight....im fairly sure i would..


hmmm.....lemme know what you think.

Korlat, on 14 October 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

Don't worry about me, I has my BP. You're better making sure Path to Fake Enlightenment doesn't take you out in spite or incoherent rage or whatever it is he's attempting.

Karosis, on 14 October 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:

hahaha....my "hesitancy" to vote for galain sold emeurlan.
Guy bought it... gosh...that was fun

Korlat, on 14 October 2011 - 06:10 PM, said:

Do you think we recruited Emur and just haven't been told about it?

Karosis, on 14 October 2011 - 10:46 PM, said:

ARE YOU THE USURPER?

Korlat, on 14 October 2011 - 10:51 PM, said:

How did you ever find out?

I've been so barbaric as well, drat and double drat.

[Path-Shaper]

Hood, on 17 October 2011 - 03:06 PM, said:

Well I'm kinda glad Kesso didn't die. I'm thinking it is more difficult for night actions to go through in the capital hence why a lot of people are not dead yet. Just speculating. But I digress

Since I still haven't bothered to read the first two days worth of thread I missed out on some information. Over the weekend I had a small window to do a search on Kesso's posts. I stumbled across something that I initially thought was Kesso implicating Emurlahn but actually was doing just the opposite. This post was of course in the unread section of the thread. So my suspicions of Kesso are marginally less suspicious.

Some other revelations. I'm about 95% positive that Barghast is Yan. I'm going to make another go at trying to get him lynched. I suck at making cases but, how does that saying go? If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.

I think in mafia it goes "If at first you don't succeed, OMGUS and reveal finder."

Hood, on 17 October 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:

That 5% doubt is really nagging me. The only reason that I think Barghast is Yan has to do with the Notice telling him that Osseric is the Lu Emperor. It had to have been posted in Han Zhong or Yong An as I was in Chang An the whole time and didn't see the notice. That means he isn't Xia right? This whole off thread communication thing is bugging me. If he really is Xia then I'm getting set to screw my own teammate.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 17 October 2011 - 07:06 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Tennes, on 17 October 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:

Also... ask Khell. "WTF were you thinking!!!" how do you out your emperor. unreal man... unreal.

Screw it. Lets mix things up. Illuminate Luo Yang. I am pretty sure that both Barghast and Sil have been recruited. Combine that with the fact that everyone knows I am Yan because of Khell...My chances of winning this thing are fuck-all.

NA Noted. Words posted to SH.

(In the very same post you think Barg/Sil are recruited but wonder why Khell would out his emperor? I guess The Dude is holding to the idea that Jin comes up in CFs before Sima Yi's emperor dies, which is sadly not the case.)