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Posted 12 July 2011 - 05:42 PM

http://io9.com/58202...nstead-of-seven

Perhaps.

Not surprised though.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 06:03 PM

And yet, will anyone still care when he's putting out his next book in 4 years and taking another year between updates on his website... I for one will be happy to read the books as they come because I already like the series, but I won't get excited again when he throws a little bacon our way just to get us salivating and then puts out another inferior product to string us along like Robert Jordan. I want to punch that guy in his grave.
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Posted 12 July 2011 - 06:03 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 12 July 2011 - 05:42 PM, said:

http://io9.com/58202...nstead-of-seven

Perhaps.

Not surprised though.


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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:20 AM

So 15 years to wait then.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 01:31 PM

He did say in that interview that he still thinks it'll be 7 books.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:28 PM

View PostSlick Mongoose, on 13 July 2011 - 01:31 PM, said:

He did say in that interview that he still thinks it'll be 7 books.


FWiW, after finishing DANCE, I am supremely skeptical about 7 books. I don't want to speak for him, but from a thread I saw elsewhere, I think Wert is a bit doubtful as well.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:33 PM

8 seems more likely to me too! But I don't think we should be talking as if it's certain.
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:34 PM

Just wait... next he considers SE and Sanderson and decides that ten book series' are all the rage nowadays...
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Posted 13 July 2011 - 05:58 PM

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:48 PM

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:28 AM

View PostAbyss, on 13 July 2011 - 05:34 PM, said:

Just wait... next he considers SE and Sanderson and decides that ten book series' are all the rage nowadays...



Don't let him hear about THE DRESDEN FILES then!!!

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:33 AM

Seven would be a cooler number, but honestly, I don't care that much. I'll just get the books as they come out and read other stuff in between.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 12:55 PM

View PostBinder of Demons, on 14 July 2011 - 10:28 AM, said:

Don't let him hear about THE DRESDEN FILES then!!!


Except that Dresden Files books are only like 300 pgs, while ASOIAF books are 700-800 pgs. So GRRM is already at the equivalent of like Dresden #15, at this point, page-wise.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 01:44 PM

I think I'm leaning 51% of the series expanding to 8 books and 49% it staying at 7. I can see how it can be done in 7 and how things in ADWD will help that, but yeah, it's going to be fricking tight.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:18 PM

View PostWerthead, on 15 July 2011 - 01:44 PM, said:

I think I'm leaning 51% of the series expanding to 8 books and 49% it staying at 7. I can see how it can be done in 7 and how things in ADWD will help that, but yeah, it's going to be fricking tight.

Now that I've read ADWD, I can say this: you're deluding yourself if you think Martin accomplishes what he wants in less than eight books. Not unless the dragons grow to continent size and start eating accordingly.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:25 PM

I think it's pretty clear that ADwD is not the book that GRRM would have liked to publish, that it just got cut off early once it got too long. A good chunk of that will have to be put into TWoW and then there's just a big snowball effect. I don't think GRRM ever imagined early on that he would use so many viewpoints, and unless he reigns them all in tight then I don't see how he's going to stick to his plan of 7 books. And his attitude in all of the interviews suggests that he still plans to go about things the same way and would have no problem expanding the series.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 07:29 PM

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 07:52 PM

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View PostWerthead, on 15 July 2011 - 01:44 PM, said:

I think I'm leaning 51% of the series expanding to 8 books and 49% it staying at 7. I can see how it can be done in 7 and how things in ADWD will help that, but yeah, it's going to be fricking tight.

Now that I've read ADWD, I can say this: you're deluding yourself if you think Martin accomplishes what he wants in less than eight books. Not unless the dragons grow to continent size and start eating accordingly.


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Posted 18 July 2011 - 12:31 AM

View Postamphibian, on 15 July 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

Now that I've read ADWD, I can say this: you're deluding yourself if you think Martin accomplishes what he wants in less than eight books. Not unless the dragons grow to continent size and start eating accordingly.


As pointed out, GRRM did move some characters significantly further on in a small timeframe in ADWD, but fell into problems with too many Dany chapters that did little to push things dynamically forward. If he can overcome that, I can see him getting done in 7.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 01:00 AM

having just finished the book, I don't see a resolution anywhere close in sight.

8 books would not shock me
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