[Khellendros]

Many centuries from now, Shin, the historians will write that you were the hero who roused the town from their malaise with your noble sacrifice, and they rode to crushing victory with your name a prayer on their lips.

So turn the other cheek to the curses and Starscream-like cries of "pathetic fool!" - one day, your name will rise again from this ignominy.

[Khellendros]

Shinrei, on 18 July 2011 - 11:31 PM, said:

Oh, and for the record, I'm truly inno. D'rek even made a funny scene entirely about me.

Farewell, my beloved elephant. And damn you into eternity you monkeys!

I hope D'rek has taken this extended opportunity provided by non-lynching and non-finding to write many extremely creative death scenes.

[Gust Hubb]

Love you too Shin.

[Grief]

Vote Twelve

While I've nothing against a shin vote, the case on him essentially amounts to him being under the radar, and he does seem to have been. I also don't like self votes much, and don't like that since he got pressure he hasn't really contributed much, which gives the impression of trying to let attention go elsewhere.

However, twelve is advocating play that to me, actively seems to sabotage our chances. He hasn't maintained much consistency from the start(other than that we should vote night-the reasoning for why doesn't seem very constant) and doesn't do much to back up his points.

[Khellendros]

Argh, how could I leave twelve off the list of people I'm happy to vote for?

Edit: new smiley

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 19 July 2011 - 12:23 AM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. 25 hours and 16 minutes remaining
12 Players still alive: ansible, Grief, Gust Hubb, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Kurt Montandon, Mentalist, Roldom, Shinrei, Tattersail, twelve, Vengeance

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for HiddenOne ( Vengeance )
1 Vote for twelve ( Grief )
3 Votes for Shinrei ( Gust Hubb, Shinrei, Khellendros )

Players not voted: ansible, HiddenOne, Kurt Montandon, Mentalist, Roldom, Tattersail, twelve

[Shinrei]

This "hasnt contributed much" BS is pissing me off. I put in my two cents about night voting vs. voting for a lynch, and since no one has died, there hasnt been a whole lot else to discuss, other than certain people`s complete reading fails/mafia-paranoia-leading-to-wild-speculation about the setup. The major volume of posting has been either while I was away this weekend, or at night while I`ve been asleep. If I`d come on and agreed with certain people, I`d be accused of being a follower and not doing anything productive.

Anyways, if you want my "gut", I`d put Venge or Mentalist as scum, but there isnt really a case to be made. Seriously, what amazing things have everyone else contributed? Seems to me the fumbling in the dark continues...

I`m thinking about removing my selfvote because I`m starting to question whether or not I really want to die for you retards.

[Grief]

Shinrei, on 19 July 2011 - 01:28 AM, said:

This "hasnt contributed much" BS is pissing me off. I put in my two cents about night voting vs. voting for a lynch, and since no one has died, there hasnt been a whole lot else to discuss, other than certain people`s complete reading fails/mafia-paranoia-leading-to-wild-speculation about the setup. The major volume of posting has been either while I was away this weekend, or at night while I`ve been asleep. If I`d come on and agreed with certain people, I`d be accused of being a follower and not doing anything productive.

Anyways, if you want my "gut", I`d put Venge or Mentalist as scum, but there isnt really a case to be made. Seriously, what amazing things have everyone else contributed? Seems to me the fumbling in the dark continues...

I`m thinking about removing my selfvote because I`m starting to question whether or not I really want to die for you retards.

Any thoughts about Tattersail?

Edit: Spelling

[Gust Hubb]

It's hard to have thoughts when we don't have a second finder revealing. The problem is, Tat could be lying and skating free and without some clever WIFOM or a second finder, we'll never know. I mean, we could also go bat shit and lynch him, but that seems silly at this point.

As to Shin, we are all pretty much in the same boat, and if you don't want to stay and rack your brains, we can definitely show you out the door. As for us retards, we haven't got a crystal clear picture on the OP and if you would care to enlighten us, do so. There has been a lot of play back and forth and we seem to be dead-locked over strategy (no one wants to be a follower and just go for a plan of attack. But hey, that's mafia as far as I've gathered). But, even though twelve is a mess of randomness and contradictions, I would rather have his amusing input than your quiet sulking.

Buck up or back out.

[Kurt Montandon]

Grief, on 19 July 2011 - 01:42 AM, said:

Shinrei, on 19 July 2011 - 01:28 AM, said:

This "hasnt contributed much" BS is pissing me off. I put in my two cents about night voting vs. voting for a lynch, and since no one has died, there hasnt been a whole lot else to discuss, other than certain people`s complete reading fails/mafia-paranoia-leading-to-wild-speculation about the setup. The major volume of posting has been either while I was away this weekend, or at night while I`ve been asleep. If I`d come on and agreed with certain people, I`d be accused of being a follower and not doing anything productive.

Anyways, if you want my "gut", I`d put Venge or Mentalist as scum, but there isnt really a case to be made. Seriously, what amazing things have everyone else contributed? Seems to me the fumbling in the dark continues...

I`m thinking about removing my selfvote because I`m starting to question whether or not I really want to die for you retards.

Any thoughts about Tattersail?

I've been wondering about that myself.

And I'm on-board with the "low contributors don't necessarily suck," because, well, I am one. Because again ... there's just no cases to be made. Are we going to lynch random Innos on the grounds that it's OK, because it gives less room for MH to jump into?

[Grief]

Reducing the pool isn't the only reason that lynching is better than not lynching. We still do want to try to hit MH ofc(and that gets more info on thread).

Also, the reason I asked shin was more because he mentioned that ment was one of his suspects.

[Gust Hubb]

I guess it is too much to hope that we'll do more than just staring at each other this evening?

[Mentalist]

I really don't see the case on Shin and his desire to self-vote sends all kinds of signal spiking. scum wouldn't do that, trying instead to present us with a different target.

[Gust Hubb]

Well, self-voting isn't new to this game. For twelve, it was enough of a distraction that he squirmed out of a lynch like Jump Around. This is a different type of game, where voting night and for one's self doesn't seem to carry the same implications, at least not among this crowd.

[Grief]

Mentalist, on 19 July 2011 - 02:26 AM, said:

I really don't see the case on Shin and his desire to self-vote sends all kinds of signal spiking. scum wouldn't do that, trying instead to present us with a different target.

Also, self-vote hasn't exactly been a successful lynch evader very often. I still don't like people doing it though.

Shin could easily be bored inno. Other than gut I don't see too much on him. As well as which, him naming you as suspect gives the impression he hasn't been keeping up very well. Part of me is a bit sceptical that he'd really manage to miss something like that though, which makes me a bit wary.

[Vengeance]

Ok I see. HO is not HM. Fine.


Remove Vote

Vote Twelve


If you want reasons see why I voted for him 2 or 3 days ago..whenever that was.

[Grief]

Also, in regards to KMs earlier point about lynching randomly, we are going to be resetting to day one several times throughout the game. I would be really surprised if there isn't a lot of accusations(and maybe even lynches) based around guessing who the previous MH is most likely to jump to, and jumping on any slight alterations in playstyle.

[Gust Hubb]

Well, that's lovely. 3 votes for Shin to 2 votes for twelve. Any reason why one over the other? I still like Shin for the fact that he gets all blustery but still refuses to contribute much, unless his call on Ment was more than just a careless read of the weekend. I am not sure what to make of twelve. He just jumps around and sometimes seems useful and other times stirs the pot such that nothing gets done. I am growing more and more antsy to have things done.

[Grief]

There are several people who can be accused the same as shin. Less so twelve.

Shin could just be bored inno, and there is definitely evidence to suggest this.

[Gust Hubb]

Thanks for your 2 cents (sorry read too many Daemonwolf posts). I think MH is most likely a hider not a talker, and I think twelve smacks more of another bored (perhaps more twitchy) inno. And KM slips in enough to make reasonable comments without being that memorable. So I would still go for KM or Shin at this point. But I must get to bed since the kiddo enjoys being up at various random hours of the night.

One request, can we please make a decision before our 28 hrs are up? I'm not good at waiting...