[Gust Hubb]

Did you guys get your finds? I didn't see another MH death, so I assume whoever you found is innocent. which means, one more lynch, find kill the last remaining townie and WE WIN!!!!

[ansible]

Gust Hubb, on 22 July 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:

Did you guys get your finds? I didn't see another MH death, so I assume whoever you found is innocent. which means, one more lynch, find kill the last remaining townie and WE WIN!!!!

Yeah this is pretty fucking great, we could not have asked for a better outcome of that lynch... Tatts put in that find like he said, I hope!

[Gust Hubb]

Well, since I have one choice among you to vote and I'm off to dinner in about 1/2 hour, I will:

Vote Hidden One

as a place holder. I may not be around for the end game sadly (hoping for this to be earlier this afternoon...but hey good luck!!!!)

[Path-Shaper]

Meng Huo was brought once again before Gu Yong, who asked if he would submit. Meng Huo made no comment. Recalling Meng Huo's vigorous defiance during his preceding captivities, Gu Yong suspected a ruse. He ordered his soldiers to remove the King of Kings' large ceremonial headdress, which revealed enough of the face to show that it was actually a fake Meng Huo! Cries arose from within the camp, and Gu Yong rushed to the back of his tent, cut through the material and leaped into the darkness. No sooner than he had left the tent it burst into flame. Gu Yong hurried to the central tower where he found the guards dead. Yong climbed the tower and pounded on the alarm gong, rousing the camp.

The raiders who had infiltrated the Yan camp were soon apprehended, among them Meng Huo himself. Gu Yong made sure it was the real King this time! Meng Huo admitted that he had had his trusted commander Ahuinan disguised as himself to fool the Yan forces into complacency while he kidnapped their general Gu Yong, himself!


Gust Hubb is dead. He was Ahuinan and Meng Huo.

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It is Day 13. 27 hours and 59 minutes remaining
3 Players still alive: ansible, HiddenOne, Tattersail

2 votes to lynch, 2 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: ansible, HiddenOne, Tattersail

Meng Huo has been caught six out of seven times!


All finder-kills have been used. All town players are now RI.

[Path-Shaper]

Out for a bit, but I'll try to check regularly in case you guys lynch so I can post the end scene and results. Given that there are 3 players left and no NAs, there won't be a weekend break and Day 13 will go on forever until you guys make a lynch.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 22 July 2011 - 10:32 PM

[Tattersail_]

my god. Ment was a great lynch well done gents. Now, the question is whether or not GH knew he was safe. If he didn't then he could have voted me or ansible. However, this is problematic because if he knew it would come down to this then he could have made ansible MH. Fuck.

I am 100 % still town. 100% but now it comes down to who I believe is MH. Fuck. You see I want Ansible to be town still and we both lynch HO and we win, winning from the start but the frigging game is messing with my head. This is worst case scenario slash wifom territory. No way am I putting a vote down first so scum can hammer and town loses. You both put a vote on each other, shit you can't do that either.

It is whoever trusts the other person. I outed myself first and people know or should know about my honesty. But for Fuck sake I am not good at making decisions like this. It's not like I can go through the whole thread and say this players been playing this way or that players been playing that way because the likelyhood (i cannot spell that word after 2 bottles of Frosty Jack's) of the player being recruited was last night. My gut instinct says that GH thought he was safe and the best place to place a recruited person would be on HO because he was certain to be alive come tomorrow, alive and not a find. Argh fuck fuck.

Right i'm going to bed, i'm not going to speculate more tonight, massive decision come tomorrow, I want to vote HO but its such a big decision. Please both of you convince me you are town. Go town, and fuck!! D'rek you're a mastermind!! I bet you planned this from the start, this is what I kept thinking it will end up all the way through!! And now with this scenario i'm thinking it gets to be my favourite mafia game yet.

[HiddenOne]

I waited around all day, I leave for a while then it all breaks loose. It was a good call on Ment, I was almost convinced it was GH.

Also good call whoever did the find on GH. Not sure what happened in between the lynch and the find/kill, I assume it was when D'rek was working on the scene. I guess GH was voting me to throw suspicion away from himself or maybe he didn't know he was recruited yet, no way to know

I'll be back in 8-10 hours, I have a couple questions before I vote.

Tatts, you are right about the WIFOM and hard decisions, it's hard to know what someone else would do, and I've got to try to figure out which one of you GH picked - why do you want ansible to be town still - just for comraderie?

[ansible]

Tattersail, on 22 July 2011 - 11:09 PM, said:

my god. Ment was a great lynch well done gents. Now, the question is whether or not GH knew he was safe. If he didn't then he could have voted me or ansible. However, this is problematic because if he knew it would come down to this then he could have made ansible MH. Fuck.

I am 100 % still town. 100% but now it comes down to who I believe is MH. Fuck. You see I want Ansible to be town still and we both lynch HO and we win, winning from the start but the frigging game is messing with my head. This is worst case scenario slash wifom territory. No way am I putting a vote down first so scum can hammer and town loses. You both put a vote on each other, shit you can't do that either.

It is whoever trusts the other person. I outed myself first and people know or should know about my honesty. But for Fuck sake I am not good at making decisions like this. It's not like I can go through the whole thread and say this players been playing this way or that players been playing that way because the likelyhood (i cannot spell that word after 2 bottles of Frosty Jack's) of the player being recruited was last night. My gut instinct says that GH thought he was safe and the best place to place a recruited person would be on HO because he was certain to be alive come tomorrow, alive and not a find. Argh fuck fuck.

Right i'm going to bed, i'm not going to speculate more tonight, massive decision come tomorrow, I want to vote HO but its such a big decision. Please both of you convince me you are town. Go town, and fuck!! D'rek you're a mastermind!! I bet you planned this from the start, this is what I kept thinking it will end up all the way through!! And now with this scenario i'm thinking it gets to be my favourite mafia game yet.

Have I been drinking? Yes. But I very much buy this. Wholesale. Yes, the ment lynch was brilliant, I can't believe it, actually. And I think we should lynch HO. His last post was weak, no real defense or declaration, I smell a scum fresh off the damn boat. The GH thing can be WIFOM'd to infinity but it doesn't matter too much. If you are now RI like I am then you have a 50/50 chance of hitting MH no matter what criteria you use, but Tatts, I admit, you have convinced me. The two generals being alive at the end is a nice dramatic touch and I really want to believe that you aren't playing me here. If you are then it's a bold move, made more believable by the weak shit HO just put up in response to your post (shifting the blame here in case of disaster? fuck yes).

But the truth is this is the way I want it anyway. Yes, HO, for camaraderie, because mafia is about knowing who your friends are (or aren't). Tatts, I believed you from the minuted you revealed and it's time for us to bring this shit home. I think we played a damn good game and it's time to toss the last die.

Vote HiddenOne

Bottom line is, I trust you on this one Tatts, and I want to wake up to a motherfucking town victory. So let's do this bitch.

[Tattersail_]

i had a proper think about this last night. No way gust hubb could have picked me or you because we still were not recruitable until after he was killed. For him to hedge his bets hidden one should have been the obvious choice, and if you are playing me now then that's so bad because we've been in it to win it for town all game. Tat being said, i'm still scared of losing this for town. I wonder what ho has to say about your accusation. I want to hammer and i would if i was scum but i'm not and wil wait to hear from ho. God this game can be mean. I will probably go ahead and vote ho. What does he have to say?

[HiddenOne]

@Tatts - not sure why you think one of the finders couldn't have been recruited, D'rek wouldn't have made the mechanics so that the MH didn't have any choice in the matter of successor, it would have made endgame too predictable. I know GH chose one of you, because he didn't pick me, and I believe I know who it is.

@ansible - sorry if you found my post "weak" but what am I supposed to defend against? It's not like there was a case on me going unanswered. I wanted to hear from both of you before making much comment, so I did.


All the sentimental stuff from ansible convinced me he has been recruited. I think GH picked him hoping the two of you would take this approach and team up on me, plus he's more experienced. I know that's wifom, but the tone of his post is just off to me. Tatt's posts seem sincere, although I know he can be a tricksy one when he chooses. Also, no mention from ansible about giving me a chance to respond, he would have hammered me instantly because there's no need to think about who to lych when you're the scum.

@Tatts - don't give the game away after all the time & work spent to follow the plan. Be objective and you will see I'm right

Vote Ansible

[Tattersail_]

seriously. Come on. Hidden One versus Ansible. It comes down to this, and i keep swaying back and forth.
If we vote night then i can use the final ability PS gave me, it won't kill but it will give me info on the target to help my decision. Are you both okay voting night?

[Tattersail_]

Ansible we've come this far. Gh should not have felt threatened and if we did no find on GH then he would not have been able to recruit us therefore HO was his best bet. However, if he was clever then he would have anticipated our find on him and chosen one of us for the succession. I'm more inclined to stick with you than hand it to scum, but somewhere inside me is a little voice shouting to go for you.

[ansible]

Tattersail, on 23 July 2011 - 12:24 PM, said:

seriously. Come on. Hidden One versus Ansible. It comes down to this, and i keep swaying back and forth.
If we vote night then i can use the final ability PS gave me, it won't kill but it will give me info on the target to help my decision. Are you both okay voting night?

What ability? I thought P-S said there were no more night actions.

Tattersail, on 23 July 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

Ansible we've come this far. Gh should not have felt threatened and if we did no find on GH then he would not have been able to recruit us therefore HO was his best bet. However, if he was clever then he would have anticipated our find on him and chosen one of us for the succession. I'm more inclined to stick with you than hand it to scum, but somewhere inside me is a little voice shouting to go for you.

Trust your instincts man. You said you wanted to stick it out with me, and let me tell you - the victory will be sweet if you follow through, but you are going to fucking kill yourself if you listen to HO. You gotta trust me on this one. That's why I laid down a vote last night, to give you the option of the hammer. If you were scum you would have obviously jumped on that but I see that I was right, because you're still torn.

I'll remove vote and vote night if you want but I don't see what it would help. HO says "be objective", but what the fuck does that even mean here? Objectively, MH could be any one of us and we have no info to look at other than these few arguments. Of course HO is wanting you to step back and suspect us both equally, because your instincts were to stick with me right from the start.

I promise, you won't regret it if you vote with me, but if you lynch me, we both lose.

[ansible]

Tattersail, on 23 July 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

Ansible we've come this far. Gh should not have felt threatened and if we did no find on GH then he would not have been able to recruit us therefore HO was his best bet. However, if he was clever then he would have anticipated our find on him and chosen one of us for the succession. I'm more inclined to stick with you than hand it to scum, but somewhere inside me is a little voice shouting to go for you.

This was my thought too but it just didn't happen like that I guess. I'm still RI. Actually, this is the first time I've been RI all game, and that must be true for you too. HO, on the other hand, has been RI all game until now, which I couldn't even be sure about until he voted back at me and says he thinks I was recruited because I was too emotional? Well, alcohol can do that. But seriously, if you are convinced by HO's weak shit you will find out the truth soon enough. The best option as scum is to hang back and wait for someone else to vote so you can hammer. I took a chance and it turns out I was right. If I was scum then why be so brash with my vote? Like HO said, it wouldn't matter who you vote for if you're scum so why wouldn't I play that smart and cagey? We'd all still be accusing each other but there wouldn't be any votes yet, probably. I thought you were being honest and I decided to believe you. If I was scum I would have been trying to play you guys against each other but I definitely wouldn't have put myself out there like this.

[HiddenOne]

Tattersail, on 23 July 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

Ansible we've come this far. Gh should not have felt threatened and if we did no find on GH then he would not have been able to recruit us therefore HO was his best bet. However, if he was clever then he would have anticipated our find on him and chosen one of us for the succession. I'm more inclined to stick with you than hand it to scum, but somewhere inside me is a little voice shouting to go for you.

Until you did a find on him, GH couldn't recruit anybody anyway

[HiddenOne]

ansible, on 23 July 2011 - 02:09 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 July 2011 - 12:24 PM, said:

seriously. Come on. Hidden One versus Ansible. It comes down to this, and i keep swaying back and forth.
If we vote night then i can use the final ability PS gave me, it won't kill but it will give me info on the target to help my decision. Are you both okay voting night?

What ability? I thought P-S said there were no more night actions.

Tattersail, on 23 July 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

Ansible we've come this far. Gh should not have felt threatened and if we did no find on GH then he would not have been able to recruit us therefore HO was his best bet. However, if he was clever then he would have anticipated our find on him and chosen one of us for the succession. I'm more inclined to stick with you than hand it to scum, but somewhere inside me is a little voice shouting to go for you.

Trust your instincts man. You said you wanted to stick it out with me, and let me tell you - the victory will be sweet if you follow through, but you are going to fucking kill yourself if you listen to HO. You gotta trust me on this one. That's why I laid down a vote last night, to give you the option of the hammer. If you were scum you would have obviously jumped on that but I see that I was right, because you're still torn.

I'll remove vote and vote night if you want but I don't see what it would help. HO says "be objective", but what the fuck does that even mean here? Objectively, MH could be any one of us and we have no info to look at other than these few arguments. Of course HO is wanting you to step back and suspect us both equally, because your instincts were to stick with me right from the start.

I promise, you won't regret it if you vote with me, but if you lynch me, we both lose.

Promises, sweet talk & threats. ansible, you should be a politician if you aren't already

By objective I mean think critically not just follow your notions or instinct. Use logic & reason

ansible, on 23 July 2011 - 02:28 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 July 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

Ansible we've come this far. Gh should not have felt threatened and if we did no find on GH then he would not have been able to recruit us therefore HO was his best bet. However, if he was clever then he would have anticipated our find on him and chosen one of us for the succession. I'm more inclined to stick with you than hand it to scum, but somewhere inside me is a little voice shouting to go for you.

This was my thought too but it just didn't happen like that I guess. I'm still RI. Actually, this is the first time I've been RI all game, and that must be true for you too. HO, on the other hand, has been RI all game until now, which I couldn't even be sure about until he voted back at me and says he thinks I was recruited because I was too emotional? Well, alcohol can do that. But seriously, if you are convinced by HO's weak shit you will find out the truth soon enough. The best option as scum is to hang back and wait for someone else to vote so you can hammer. I took a chance and it turns out I was right. If I was scum then why be so brash with my vote? Like HO said, it wouldn't matter who you vote for if you're scum so why wouldn't I play that smart and cagey? We'd all still be accusing each other but there wouldn't be any votes yet, probably. I thought you were being honest and I decided to believe you. If I was scum I would have been trying to play you guys against each other but I definitely wouldn't have put myself out there like this.

[ansible]

HiddenOne, on 23 July 2011 - 02:53 PM, said:

ansible, on 23 July 2011 - 02:09 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 23 July 2011 - 12:24 PM, said:

seriously. Come on. Hidden One versus Ansible. It comes down to this, and i keep swaying back and forth.
If we vote night then i can use the final ability PS gave me, it won't kill but it will give me info on the target to help my decision. Are you both okay voting night?

What ability? I thought P-S said there were no more night actions.

Tattersail, on 23 July 2011 - 12:35 PM, said:

Ansible we've come this far. Gh should not have felt threatened and if we did no find on GH then he would not have been able to recruit us therefore HO was his best bet. However, if he was clever then he would have anticipated our find on him and chosen one of us for the succession. I'm more inclined to stick with you than hand it to scum, but somewhere inside me is a little voice shouting to go for you.

Trust your instincts man. You said you wanted to stick it out with me, and let me tell you - the victory will be sweet if you follow through, but you are going to fucking kill yourself if you listen to HO. You gotta trust me on this one. That's why I laid down a vote last night, to give you the option of the hammer. If you were scum you would have obviously jumped on that but I see that I was right, because you're still torn.

I'll remove vote and vote night if you want but I don't see what it would help. HO says "be objective", but what the fuck does that even mean here? Objectively, MH could be any one of us and we have no info to look at other than these few arguments. Of course HO is wanting you to step back and suspect us both equally, because your instincts were to stick with me right from the start.

I promise, you won't regret it if you vote with me, but if you lynch me, we both lose.

Promises, sweet talk & threats. ansible, you should be a politician if you aren't already

By objective I mean think critically not just follow your notions or instinct. Use logic & reason

I make a genuine effort to reach out to Tattersail, and you try to discredit me. This sums up our arguments so far, and it should be obvious which one of us is scum.

[Tattersail_]

Ansible, you may be screwing me over here but i got to go with you. If you're inno then great, if your scum then its a shame we didn't get to win because it was hard fought to the end.

Vote Hidden One

[ansible]

YES. High fucking five man. Good game.

[ansible]

Now if we could only summon P-S for the resolution!