[Path-Shaper]

Out I say! Out! Why are you in here? OUT!!!

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Oh you're dead/a mod/not playing? Okay then...

[Path-Shaper]

Role Distribution:

He Qi - ansible
Ma Zhong - Tattersail

Jinhuan Sanjie - Khellendros
King Duosi - Shinrei
Gao Ding - Roldom
Yang Feng - twelve

Yong Kai - Kurt Montandon - starts as Meng Huo
Liu Xian - Vengeance - Meng Huo #2 (Day 9, onwards)
King Mulu - Grief - Meng Huo #3 (Day 11, onwards)
Wutugu - Mentalist - Meng Huo #4 (Day 12)
Ahuinan - Gust Hubb - Meng Huo #5 (Night 12)
Jin Yi - HiddenOne - Meng Huo #6 (Day 13)

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Meng Huo has 6 lives. At all times Meng Huo has a designated successor. When Meng Huo dies the successor becomes Meng Huo. If Meng Huo dies 6 times town wins. If town dies or becomes incapable of eliminating Meng Huo, scum wins. The two Yan Dynasty generals are finder-killers who can find whether players are Meng Huo or not. If they find Meng Huo they kill him automatically. They have 3 uses of this ability. Once all 3 uses have been used, they become RI and can also be designated successors by Meng Huo. Players who are not Meng Huo or the Yan generals are RI.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 23 July 2011 - 04:12 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Actions:

Day 1: (no lynch)

Night 1:
Tattersail finds Gust Hubb (backup: vengeance)

Day 2: (no lynch)

Night 2:
ansible finds Vengeance
Tattersail finds Mentalist

Day 3: (no lynch)

Night 3:
ansible finds Grief
Tattersail finds HiddenOne

Day 4: twelve is lynched

Night 4:
Tattersail finds Vengeance

Day 5: Roldom is lynched

Night 5:

Day 6: Shinrei

Night 6:

Day 7: Kurt Montandon is lynched (Venge becomes MH)

Night 7:

Day 8: Khell is lynched

Night 8:
ansible finds Grief

Day 9: vote night

Night 9:
ansible finds Tattersail
Tattersail finds ansible

Day 10: vote night

Night 10:
ansible finds Venge --> Kill #1 (Grief becomes MH #3)
Tattersail finds Gust Hubb

Day 11: vote night

Night 11:
ansible finds Grief --> Kill #2 (Ment becomes MH #4)
Tattersail finds Ment

Day 12: lynch Mentalist (Gust Hubb becomes MH #5)

Night 12:
Tattersail finds Gust Hubb --> Kill #3 (HiddenOne becomes MH #6)

Day 13: HiddenOne lynched (MH #6 defeated - town wins)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 23 July 2011 - 04:13 PM

[Path-Shaper]

SH: yyz
PS: hopeful
MM (link): yogurt


Role PMs:

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You are He Qi, General of Divine Prowess, of the Yan Dynasty.

You are currently of the Town.

Abilities:

1. Every night you may perform a find on any other player. The result will only be that the player is or is not Meng Huo. If the player is Meng Huo, you will automatically kill him. You and the other Yan General share up to 3 of these finder-kills. After all 3 have been used you may no longer perform finds. If both Yan generals target Meng Huo on the same night it will only deplete 1 use.

2. While you still have at least one finder-kill remaining, you cannot be designated as a successor by Meng Huo.

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You are Ma Zhong, General who Tames the South, of the Yan Dynasty.

You are currently of the Town.

Abilities:

1. Every night you may perform a find on any other player. The result will only be that the player is or is not Meng Huo. If the player is Meng Huo, you will automatically kill him. You and the other Yan General share up to 3 of these finder-kills. After all 3 have been used you may no longer perform finds. If both Yan generals target Meng Huo on the same night it will only deplete 1 use.

2. While you still have at least one finder-kill remaining, you cannot be designated as a successor by Meng Huo.

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You are King Mulu, Chieftain of the Nanman of Bana Cave.

You are a mystic barbarian wizard, able to direct the weather and summon ferocious animals in combat.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. Every day you can summon either a tiger, water buffalo or turtle. You can pet and play with the animal for a few hours, which boosts your self-esteem and reduces loneliness. This ability has no actual usefulness.

2. You have an elephant. Each day you may get on or off the elephant. This also does nothing.

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You are Wutugu, King of the Wuge Kingdom

Your kingdom specializes in producing a special rattan material that is lightweight and easily sheds arrows and swordblades, making your warriors nearly unstoppable in combat. The armor is soaked in oil in the fabrication process, though, so the slightest bit of fire will completely wipe out your army in an instant. It is said that the only thing Wutugu ate was poisonous snakes.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. Every day you may eat a poisonous snake. This ability may only be used once per day or you will get indigestion. This ability doesn't actually do anything.

2. You have an elephant. Each day you may get on or off the elephant. This also does nothing.

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You are Yong Kai, prefect of the Jianning Commandery. You are a Nanman living near Han China and are technically under their authority, but no imperial officials have visited Jianning since before the fall of the Han.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. You have an elephant. Each day you may get on or off the elephant. This does nothing.

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You are Jinhuan Sanjie, a Nanman. You are the defacto leader of much of the area north of Guang Zhou.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. You have an elephant. Each day you may get on or off the elephant. This does nothing.

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You are King Duosi, Chief of the Nanman people of Tulong Cave. Your lands feature many poisonous rivers, quicksand pits and other deadly traps. Your mastery of the land has lead to your reputation as a sage.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. You have an elephant. Each day you may get on or off the elephant. This does nothing.

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You are Gao Ding, a Nanman warlord from Xiang Ka and its surroundings.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. You have an elephant. Each day you may get on or off the elephant. This does nothing.

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You are Liu Xian, a minor warlord governing Ling Ling and its surroundings. Every day you hear more news about the great warlords of the north dividing up the country, but you haven't even been able to take over the nearby city, Gui Yang.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. You wish you had an elephant like the Nanman, but instead you have a sheep. Each day you may try to get on your sheep and ride it like a war sheep, but it will sidestep and you will fall in the mud. This does nothing.

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You are Jin Yi, a minor warlord governing Wu Ling and its surroundings. Your lands have not yet been assimilated by the great dynasties of the north and you also have good relations with many Nanman groups to the south.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. You wish you had an elephant like the Nanman, but instead you have a pony. Each day you may get on or off your pony and pretend it is an elephant. This does nothing but cause embarassment.

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You are Ahuinan, the Nanman warlord governing the city of Nan Hai and its surroundings.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. You have an elephant. Each day you may get on or off the elephant. This does nothing.

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The Nanman King of Kings, Meng Huo, has come to your lands and incited you to rebel against the Yan invaders. You are now scum.

You must immediately designate your successor, with several backups. Please provide Path-Shaper with an ordered preference list of at least 3 successors as soon as possible and update it whenever someone on the list dies.

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Other characters:

Meng Jie

Wu Ling group:
---Jin Yi (leader)
---Gong Zhi
---Geng Ji (RL: conspirator with Jin Yi against Cao Cao)

Ling Ling group:
--- Liu Xian (leader)
--- Xing Daorong

Gui Yang group:
--- Zhao Fan (leader)
--- Chen Ying
--- Bao Long

Jianning group:
--- Yong Kai (leader)
--- Gao Ding
--- Zhu Bao
--- He Huang

Three Ravines group:
--- Ahuinan
--- Dongtuna
--- Jinhuan Sanjie

Jiashan Gorge group:
--- Lady Zhurong
--- Dailai Dongzhu

River Lu group:
--- Meng You (leader)
--- Mangyachang

Tulong Cave group:
--- King Duosi (leader)
--- Yang Feng

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 July 2011 - 10:16 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Scenes:

Opener:

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Following the Battle of Shang Yong, Huang Zhong consolidated his power in Jing and began expanding his rule into the southern provinces. With the ample naval resources of the Jing province, Liu Yao in the east was daunted into an alliance with Huang Zhong and was cause for concern. In AD 220, Huang Zhong followed Yuan Shao and Zhang Xiu in declaring himself Emperor, founding the southern Yan Dynasty. The next few years were spent establishing an imperial bureaucracy and military across his kingdom.

There began a period of happiness and prosperity for the people. Tranquillity prevailed, the harvests were rich year after year, and old and young, with fair, round bellies, well lined, simply sang with joy. The people hastened to fulfill their state duties and vied with each other in the performance of all arts. As a natural consequence all military preparations were perfect, the granaries bursting with grain and the treasury full to overflowing.

In the far south, the Nanman King of Kings, Meng Huo, turned a covetous eye on the riches of the Yan while the southward-traveling border angered him. Gathering his forces, he marched into the southern Yan territories, pillaging and plundering. Word arrived in the capital and Huang Zhong swiftly dispatched forces under Gu Yong. A large battle ensued and King Meng Huo was captured in a Yan ambush as he fled through a narrow ravine. The King was bound and brought before Gu Yong.

"Why do you rebel against our Emperor?"

"The two River Lands belonged to others, and your lord took it from them by force, and gave himself the title of Emperor. My people have lived here for ages, and you and your cohorts invaded my country without the least excuse. How can you talk of rebellion to me?"

"You are my prisoner. Will you submit or are you still contumacious?"

"Why should I submit? You happened to find me in a narrow place. That is all."

"If I release you, what then?"

"If you release me I shall return, and when I have set my army in order, I shall come to fight you again. However, if you catch me once more, I will submit."

The King's bonds were loosed. He was clothed and refreshed, given a horse and caparisons, and sent with a guide to his own camp.

Random scene created due to Shinrei submitting useless night actions

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Deep in the jungles of Eight Fan, rumours ran wild of Yan armies headed southward to root out Meng Huo. In the Nanman bastion of Tulong Cave, the populace assembled around an ancient tree stump. The stump was twenty spans tall without any sign of a branch ever having extended from it. Legend told that the tree had been cut down to a single span by the famed Nanman warrior Tuhuang and his great blade Wind Tortoise centuries ago but the stump had continued to grow defiantly while the sword eventually rusted and was thrown away. Atop this stump sat the king of Tulong Cave, King Duosi. The assembled populace shouted up to their king asking if he would follow Meng Huo in rebellion or accept Yan rule.

Duosi, a wizened mystic known for his roundabout explanations and love of hallucinogenic mushrooms, cast an imperious gaze over all his subjects, shook his fist at some passing monkeys and said: "The soldiers of the Yan dynasty are accustomed to their plains, fields, mountains, rivers, deserts, crags, mountains, valleys, plains, seas... what? Yes yes, they have things that are sparse! With plants, yes yes yes. We are men and women of the jungle! Especially the women, look how hairy they are! The Yan women aren't hairy at all. Do you think they'd give me one if I surrendered? Oh don't tell my wife that- where was I? Oh yes. They have smooth jungles and we have hairy seas but look I have no moustachios to twirl now do I my people?!" The crowd was confused. With a mighty intake of breath King Duosi roared at the passing monkeys and suddenly a great moustachio grew out of his face in a heartbeat. "And that is that!" he said, then retired.

Day 4 lynch (twelve):

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Yan forces from Gong An made their way south through the Wu Xi region until they came upon a squalid Nanman village along the river north of Xiang Ka. The villagers paid the marching soldiers no heed, but a single Nanman chieftain rode out upon a masked elephant calling war cries. The Yan general Ma Zhong said to his lieutenants "With our many shiny weapons and noisy sandals, the villagers should surely be staring at us. Their feigned indifference indicates that this is clearly an ambush set up by Meng Huo and the Nanman chieftain will retreat to lure us in."

So Ma Zhong sent his fiercest commander to duel the Nanman chieftain, but the elephant got scared and ran back to the village while the chieftain hurled insults at the Yan soldiers and his mount. The retreat confirming Ma Zhong's suspicions, the Yan soldiers encircled and razed the whole village but found no sign of Meng Huo or any Nanman soldiers. In the ensuing chaos, the crazed Nanman chieftain fell off his elephant and smashed his head upon a rock.

twelve is dead. He was Yang Feng (town).

Gao Ding lynch day 5(Roldom):

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Following rumours from villagers that Meng Huo had followed the southern tributary of the Lu River, Ma Zhong's strike force commandeered boats and travelled upriver to the village of Xiang Ka. Large swathes of jungle had been cleared around the village. Cleared areas where tents had been set up and the remains of campfires were still visible all around. Ma Zhong deduced that Meng Huo must have gathered his defeated forces and sheltered in the village before continuing south. Seeing no defences in the village, the Yan soldiers entered in the dead of night and took command of the village. The village chieftain was found and questioned, but claimed no knowledge of Meng Huo. When asked about the signs of soldiers, the chieftain claimed it had been a training exercise of soldiers from Jian Ning. Ma Zhong ordered the chieftain executed, stole as much grain as his troops could carry and departed southwards after Meng Huo.

Roldom is dead. He was Gao Ding (town).

King Duosi lynch day 6 (shinrei)

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In Tulong Cave, a man eight spans tall clad in elephant hide and with a helmet made of the head of a crocodile marched into the village square and shouted "I am Dailai Dongzhu, brother-in-law and trusted lieutenant of the great King of Kings Meng Huo. The King of Kings summons all the southern Man to take up arms against the middle kingdoms. People of Tulong Cave, long have you been known for your mastery of the four poisonous springs and the awakening of vengeful river spirits. Come, you will gift these talents to our King of Kings!"

From atop his enormous tree stump, King Duosi stood for the first time in twenty years. The populace was so shaken they all fell to their knees before the great tree stump, but Dailai Dongzhu did not understand the remarkable feat and remained standing. This made him an easy target. King Duosi dropped his loin cloth, shouted "Here's my vengeful river spirit!" and let out an enormous golden stream into the face of Meng Huo's emissary.

Of course the emissary then shot him with an arrow.

Shinrei is dead. He was King Duosi (town)

Yong Kai/Meng Huo lynch (Kurt):

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After Gu Yong had released Meng Huo, the commanders inquired of him "We had the good fortune to catch the leading chieftain of the Nanman; this could have brought the south under control. Why did the General set him free?" Gu Yong replied, "Holding Meng Huo captive will only inspire the rest of the south to rise up to release him. Pacification of the south requires that we subdue the hearts of the Man people." This explanation did not satisfy the commanders.

Meanwhile, Meng Huo fled south of the Yuan River, gathering his surviving followers. His call for reinforcements was answered by his loyal friend Yong Kai, who brought with him ten thousand men at arms. Yong Kai was a native of the region who had been appointed as prefect of Jian Ning by the emperor. Having no contact with the court for decades, Yong Kai had developed Jian Ning and its surroundings into his own miniature kingdom and supported Meng Huo's bid to keep the Nanman regions free of Han, Yan or Lu influence.

Meng Huo bid Yong Kai split his forces and approach the main Yan camp from each side while Meng Huo's own forces advanced in the centre. Gu Yong was deliberating in camp when a scout excitedly informed him that Man armies were approaching from three directions. The general ordered a blue flare fired into the sky, overriding the commanders' protests that it would give away their position. At the flare's signal, dozens of scouts began pouring into camp and reported the precise locations of the Man armies. Noting the wide spacing and lack of outriders amongst the Nanman armies, Gu Yong quickly dispatched two thousand of his best troops to each side to sneak past the approaching forces in narrow columns. The remainder of the camp formed up in defensive positions.

When the Nanman troops arrived they immediately charged the Yan camp with a thunderous roar. The Yan forces held formation and only broke in a few locations. Yan cavalry harassed the Nanman flanks while Gu Yong's elite troops struck from behind. The Nanman forces, weary from travelling so far and having only spears and shields, were easily routed. Meng Huo fought at the front of his line to inspire his troops, but they turned and fled leaving him to be captured by Yan captains. Yong Kai's lieutenant, E Huang, fled his right-side army broke. Yong Kai himself was thrown from his elephant and trampled by Yan cavalry.

Meng Huo was brought before Gu Yong. "Remember your promise: 'If you catch me again, I will agree to submit.' What do you say now?" "I only failed because here in Wu Xi we were too far to bring many Man soldiers, or any weapons other than spears and shields. We are too far from the rivers for my army to have been supplied with enough food so we had to fight you right away. It was the exhaustion and hunger that defeated us today, not your soldiers. Why should I submit?" "And if I let you go again?" Gu Yong replied. "Even a Man knows something about the art of war. If you send me home, I will be back with a real army to decide the day. And if you catch me again, I will offer my allegiance with heartfelt unwavering sincerity." "Next time you're captured alive and refuse to submit," Gu Yong warned, "it will go hard on you." He had Meng Huo's bonds removed and the King of Kings was sent provided food and sent south.

Jinhuan Sanjie/Khell gets lynched:

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Seeing the might of the Yan dynasty extending itself south, Zhao Fan of Gui Yang feared his small dominion would soon be swallowed by the expansionist kingdom. More importantly, he feared his head wouldn't stay on its shoulders when the Yan soldiers came. Zhao's reports indicated that the Yan forces seemed to be especially concerned with conquering the Nanman people. In a bid to gain favour with his soon-to-be oppressors, Zhao Fan set out south with half his army, raiding all the Nanman camps and dwellings he could find.

In the summer of the year 221 AD, Zhao Fan's forces reached the Nanman city of Nan Hai, the de facto capital of the Guang Zhou region. The Nanman governor of the city, Jinhuan Sanjie, assembled his army outside the city and the two forces fell upon each other in a wild melee.

In the center of the battle, Zhao Fan's champion Bao Long raked through the Nanman forces towards Jinhuan. When the two met they dueled for fifty passes while their guards kept the rest of the armies from interfering. The skills of the warriors were equally matched, but the quality of Jinhuan's rattan spear was no match for Bao Long's finely forged steel sword. In a rapid succession of strikes, Bao split Jinhuan's spear in three places before cutting Jinhuan apart at the knees and across the torso. Thereafter the forces from Gui Yang routed the Nanman forces and stormed the city.

Khellendros is dead. He was Jinhuan Sanjie (town).

Grief is lynched

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Ment is lynched

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Gu Yong released Meng Huo for the fourth time, but kept his forces in control of Ninety-Three Mian. "Where can we go?" said Meng Huo. "Our stronghold is in the hands of the enemy."

Dailai Dongzhu replied, "There is but one country that can overcome these troops. That is the Black Lance (Wuguo) Kingdom. It lies two hundred miles to the southeast. The King of that state is named Wutugu. He is a giant of twelve spans. He does not eat grain, but lives on serpents and venomous beasts. He wears scale armor, which is impenetrable to swords and arrows. His warriors wear rattan armor which no weapon can penetrate."

So, Meng Huo traveled to the Black Lance Kingdom, and Wutugu swore to avenge him. The fearless rattan legions marched north and struck the Yan camp. The Yan soldiers fought with all their might but their weapons could not harm the rattan soldiers, so they threw down their weapons and fled. For two weeks, the Yan forces fought each day and were forced to retreat each time. The Yan commanders appealed to Gu Yong to abandon the campaign and return north, but Gu Yong replied "I have sent for reinforcements, we must endure until they arrive."

Five days later, King Wutugu was leading his rattan soldiers through a steep valley against retreating Yan forces. The fleeing Yan forces had not even had time to bring away their supplies, and so the valley was full of black-painted wagons. Suddenly rocks and debris came rolling down the sides of the valley, blocking the path ahead. Shouting from the rear informed him that the path back had also been blocked off. A gong sounded and Yan soldiers appeared on the slopes of the valley, out of arrow range. Round-boxed torches were hurled down the mountainside until they bounced against the black wagons, where they ignited fuses leading to powder hidden beneath the wagons' beds. Then the ground suddenly heaved with the explosion of bombs beneath. The whole valley was soon full of flames, darting and playing in all directions, and wherever they met with the oil-soaked rattan armor the rattan caught fire, and thus the whole army, huddled and crowded together, burned in the midst of the valley.

Gust Hubb gets FK'd (immediately after Ment is lynched)

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Meng Huo was brought once again before Gu Yong, who asked if he would submit. Meng Huo made no comment. Recalling Meng Huo's vigorous defiance during his preceding captivities, Gu Yong suspected a ruse. He ordered his soldiers to remove the King of Kings' large ceremonial headdress, which revealed enough of the face to show that it was actually a fake Meng Huo! Cries arose from within the camp, and Gu Yong rushed to the back of his tent, cut through the material and leaped into the darkness. No sooner than he had left the tent it burst into flame. Gu Yong hurried to the central tower where he found the guards dead. Yong climbed the tower and pounded on the alarm gong, rousing the camp.

The raiders who had infiltrated the Yan camp were soon apprehended, among them Meng Huo himself. Gu Yong made sure it was the real King this time! Meng Huo admitted that he had had his trusted commander Ahuinan disguised as himself to fool the Yan forces into complacency while he kidnapped their general Gu Yong, himself!


Gust Hubb is dead. He was Ahuinan and Meng Huo.

Final scene:

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This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 22 July 2011 - 10:28 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Gust Hubb, on 12 July 2011 - 10:12 PM, said:

Well at least I have an ability this time!

I will try to use it wisely.

That's the spirit!

[Path-Shaper]

twelve decided to join last-minute, so I added him in. Here's his role PM:

Path-Shaper, on 12 July 2011 - 11:13 PM, said:

You are Yang Feng. He's some Nanman guy, I forget everything else about him. Maybe he has an elephant... yeah let's say he has an elephant. It is the ugliest elephant of all the Nanman, so Yang Feng built a giant elephant mask out of bamboo to hide the ugliness of his elephant. Thus everyone respects him and he is the leader of some Nanman area or other.

You are currently town.

Abilities:

1. Once per day you may take a peek under the mask of your elephant to remind yourself of how ugly your elephant is. This will remind you of how undeserving you are of your responsibilities and keep you from getting too ambitious. This has no practical use.

2. Every night you may rob a liquor store.

twelve, on 12 July 2011 - 11:31 PM, said:

LOL!!!!!

I love it. Best ability ever!!!!

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Khellendros, on 13 July 2011 - 12:25 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 July 2011 - 10:08 PM, said:

You are Jinhuan Sanjie, a Nanman. You are the defacto leader of much of the area north of Guang Zhou.

You are currently a member of the Town.

Abilities:

1. You have an elephant. Each day you may get on or off the elephant. This does nothing.

A nice easy intro back into Mafia then...as if there was such a thing.

And: Get on the elephant, of course!

Noted. You have mounted your elephant without issue. It's bag is very smooth but a little bit too wide such that you feel dangerously close to doing the splits.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 July 2011 - 02:53 AM

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Kurt Montandon, on 13 July 2011 - 03:13 AM, said:

"Hello Mafia, look at your town. Now back at me. Now back at your town. Now back at me.
Sadly, you aren't scum.
But if you stopped paying fealty to the Emperor, you could swear loyalty to the King of Kings like me.
Look south. Now north. Where are you? You're in the Yan Dynasty, with scum your team-mates can't act like.
What's in your Inbox? I have it. It's a PM, with Path-Shaper telling you you're a roleless Inno in the town you love.
Look again. The message is now telling you you've been recruited.
Anything is possible when you play smooth and don't spam like a moron.
I'm on an elephant."


... anyways, successors:

Venge
Ment
Tattersail


I'd also like to say this game is going to be quick and bloody. So, you know, awesome.

That is beautiful

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Shinrei, on 13 July 2011 - 03:15 AM, said:

This is the best role I've ever had.

Seriously, I love it.

Ok,

Get on the Elephant

You try to get on the elephant but are too fat. You are so exhausted that you can't try again until tomorrow.

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 13 July 2011 - 03:49 AM, said:

Grief, on 13 July 2011 - 03:44 AM, said:

Do they have a killing power, or any power other than what has been explained in the set up?

Apologies if double pm.

See answer on thread.

[Path-Shaper]

Tattersail, on 13 July 2011 - 07:34 AM, said:

oh yeah it is alt less was going to ask for alt ha ha

Tattersail, on 13 July 2011 - 07:47 AM, said:

find Gust Hubb

Noted.

Tattersail, on 13 July 2011 - 12:03 PM, said:

by the way d'rek i thought there would be 3-4 finder killers and i was one but now it looks like there is only two of us. Shit i should not have posted anything.

Doesn't look like anyone noticed it much anyways. Please, continue posting, posting is good, makes the game much more interesting!!!

Vengeance, on 13 July 2011 - 01:14 PM, said:

My Sheep will become an elephant and I will be victorious.

Of course it will...

Khellendros, on 13 July 2011 - 09:33 AM, said:

My supple limbs ensure that that sort of flexibility is not an issue.

Khellendros, on 13 July 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:

Hmm, I'm debating whether to say on thread that the finder-killers should just reveal themselves. After all, MH can't kill them, so what's the danger? Can we do role reveals?

And even if, say, three people reveal themselves to be finder-killers, that just gives the real ones someone to investigate (so long as they don't investigate each other), and that person will turn out either to be MH or nothing, in which case they're the symp.

I don't know, I was going to suggest this in order to ensure we don't lynch the finder-killers, but there are actually a lot of ways MH/the symp could screw us over in that instance.

More importantly for me, I seem to have vague recollections that people who suggest role reveals often tend to get lynched themselves.

Everyone can reveal anything they like.

[Dinivan]

I really like this setup, half wish I would be playing (bad habit, that). Perhaps if I were playing, I would actually want Meng Huo to win, just to keep this mechanic into play for the next Rot3K game

Kurt Montandon, on 13 July 2011 - 04:01 PM, said:

twelve, on 13 July 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 13 July 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

Seriously Veng? We don't jump on the night voter (which I take as personal, being that was my first massive mafia mistake, my first game) but we jump on me for being conversational? I just don't get it. Where's the love? Where's the logic? we were doing statistics just a short while ago...

Hey Gust,

My fisrt mafia game saw me lynched for voting night day one too.

I'm pretty sure that happened to me, as well.

It's almost like an initiation rite, or something.

I am quite undecided about the night voting, when twelve brought it up, I thought a bit, and thought I see his reasoning. My gut says going to night is the right move, but I have not completely thought it through.

Besides, I also voted for night in my first game, but I wasn't lynched for it. I was NK'd night one.

[Path-Shaper]

Vengeance, on 13 July 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

I figure that other then twelve (who I know is stubborn and irritating) the people who are really interested in not lynching will be HM symps. Not the HM himself he is going to probably act like Kell.... Straddle the fence and then come down on the towns side. It is the best way to hide.

Vengeance, on 13 July 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

Of course Grief is acting the same way.

Path-Shaper, on 13 July 2011 - 05:52 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 13 July 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

I am going to eat 3 poisonous snakes and get on the elephant.

then I will go read up on the thread.

Your thread read includes numerous hallucinations due to the snakes. You mistakenly believe everyone has revealed themselves as Spysat117

Path-Shaper, on 13 July 2011 - 05:45 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 13 July 2011 - 03:41 PM, said:

thanks for giving me a role d'rek. I picked gust hubb for gut, but tomorrow i'll look at the better players of mafia for the MH. The thing with this if we guess wrong tonight but right tomorrow night then the people we found tonight become targets again.

Pretty much. It's basically an FM role without being a single player. Enjoy

Tattersail, on 13 July 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

If Gust Hubb is lynched then

find Vengeance

Noted

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 July 2011 - 05:54 PM

[Tapper]

Y'know, I'd bomb you with mounting elephant/pony/sheep (that's sounding really bestiality-like, yuk?) provisionals if I was in this game
Set-up is real interesting. My money is on the Ben (ehm, chinese guy).

[Path-Shaper]

Ah, finally someone has pointed out that the finder-kills can only avoid accidentally using up their limited quantities by not doing finds at all, and indeed they'll be most useful at the end. If the finder-killers can both survive to the end and have at least a find-kill left, they're two VPI and can't be designated successors, which is a huge benefit when there's only 5 or so players left.

[Path-Shaper]

Tattersail, on 13 July 2011 - 06:49 PM, said:

I am in the mindset now of wifom. I am thinking that MH would have been given to a more experienced player and then I was thinking that you may change your mind and give it to a newer player because they would be least likely to be investigated. Then I thought you may have thought about this and given it to someone who is notoriously harder to lynch. I know there is another player out there that is finding so it eases the pressure. I am going to stick with Gust hubb for now and then have a review of things on day two.

Or maybe I just randomized it...

Or maybe not...

Grief, on 13 July 2011 - 08:34 PM, said:

Am I allowed to tell people on thread that I asked for clarification about killing roles and tell your response, or would that be frowned upon?

You can reveal whatever you like.

[Path-Shaper]

Gust Hubb, on 14 July 2011 - 02:39 AM, said:

Ok, speculations and I will try not to spam you as bad as I did Liz:

I am a little bewildered at the moment. I mean I am scared of Shin seeing his awesomeness in previous games (and hence would want to eliminate him to be on the safe side). I think twelve has got a death wish and is awfully erratic, even if I did appreciate his empathy on the night vote. I think this takes twelve off my lynch list for now. I'm still not seeing hide or hair of ansible or Roldom, which strikes me as worrisome because they seem to be flying under the radar (I know, totally cliche' to point out low/no-posters). Hence I would like to push them to either speak up or lynch out the dead wood, but I would settle for a good finder investigation. And so far, just because they have been the most vigorous contributers, I would like to keep Tattersail and Kells around, though I would be scared of them for the same reasons as Shin (thus, lynch later perhaps).

oh, and

GET ON ELEPHANT

[Path-Shaper]

ansible, on 14 July 2011 - 06:26 AM, said:

Ok, first: I don't want to use a find tonight.

Noted.

ansible, on 14 July 2011 - 06:34 AM, said:

Clarification: So does each find (successful or not) subtract from our total find-kills? Or do only successful MH kills subtract from the 3 we have? It seems like it would be the latter but I want to be sure.

I don't want to use a find in case of the above (that I might waste 1 of 3 uses on some RI), but also because I don't really want to use the kill yet, either. Since the find info is only good till the next MH dies anyway, I want to let things play out on thread a bit before reevaluating.

My guess right now is that Venge is the other general. He just seemed to know too much about the role. Maybe he's just damn good but I get the feeling he is telegraphing to the other general with his advice to wait on the finds.

Only finding Meng Huo and killing him subtracts from the 3 total finder-kills. Finding someone who is not MH does nothing.

Kurt Montandon, on 14 July 2011 - 06:43 AM, said:

Spoiler entry:

There's obviously not going to be a lynch, so I can play up my Inno cred just slightly, even though it's band-wagonish to do so.

Also, my updated successor list:

Ment
Tattersail
HG

Since Venge is pretty obviously scum, or very obviously town. Either way, not a Finder.

Edit: changed GH to HG. I have no idea who these new people are. If I was a Killer, he'd be the first to go, simply because I can't remember his name, and I'd be all like "Fuck the newbs, die noobscum!!!"

Hahaha, I guess I should've given you a kill after all! Oh well.

[Path-Shaper]

Shinrei, on 14 July 2011 - 01:49 PM, said:

GET ON DA ELEPHAAAAAANT!!!!!!

OMG, YOUZ JUST GOT ON DA ELEPHANT AND NOW YOU'RE TRUDGING AROUND THE JUNGLE ON YO ELEPHANT!!!

Khellendros, on 14 July 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

Game's a bit quieter than I remember these things being - I guess that's because it's a mini rather than full-scale.

I do wonder who the finders chose to investigate - possibly a couple of the more vocal players like Vengy, Grief, twelve and myself.

My initial suspicion was on Hidden One, he just seems like he's trying to appear useful but without actually saying anything. Completely wrong, probably, as my initial suspicions always have been. More than once in the past did I construct huge elaborate cases, crowed in triumph as my finger-pointing resulted in a lynching, only to then post "Ooops", as that person invariably turned out inno.

[Path-Shaper]

For the record, it is only 3 finder-kills total, shared between the two finders. I'm not sure where they got the idea of it being 6, exactly. I think the finders know well enough that is 3 total, but they won't share that unless they reveal, I guess.

[Path-Shaper]

As for all their confusion over number of scum, it basically stems from the fact that Meng Huo is a non-player entity and I described him as such in the description, leading to the idea of a "rebel" and also Meng Huo being two different scum. Once they get the first scum CF it'll be a lot clearer for them (at least I've been planning that it will be). The CF comes out as _____ is dead. He was < Rebel name > and Meng Huo.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 14 July 2011 - 09:36 PM