[Meanas]

Ah, of course Okaros, better I just keep quiet and not post at all. There is absolutely no desperation, only frustration at having put myself in this spot. But at least Galain came out of it, which you're handily ignoring of course.

[Galain]

Meanas, on 06 October 2011 - 11:36 PM, said:

That's interesting, because mine also told me the location of my emperor. Yours didn't? Yeah, fake PMs tend to leave stuff out don't they.

My Role PM did not include the location of my Emperor.

Anyone actually part of a Kingdom will know why. Thanks for giving away that you aren't.

[Meanas]

I'm putting my money where my mouth is actually. Osseric would be the easier choice to vote for, but I have a great feeling about Galain.

Not that it's easy to put together a case against Galain, seeing as he's posted pretty much fuck all up until now. Anyway:

Galain, on 03 October 2011 - 06:31 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 03 October 2011 - 04:46 AM, said:

pedantic bear sez: geishas are still Japanese.

also, I kinda see where Tiam is coming from, what with the whole "cult can't recruit, is a one-man faction, so let's look for outsiders to lynch early on" thing (at least that what I got as the general gist of it--not too sure I agree with the Emperor hunt, b/c that tends to deliniate the teams early on)

Er, the Usurper can recruit until the Emperor he's located with is dead, at least after some kind of condition to begin recruiting is met.

Tiamatha makes sense on this point - it's a good idea to kill either that Emperor (which his faction understandably won't want to go along with), or the Usurper (which everyone should want). On the flip side, it's not exactly easy to identify a role, so hunting a specific person in Mafia is damned near impossible with such a crowd. I am kind of leaning towards the notion that the person who talks most about a specific role is either a counter to that role ... or is that person theirself.

Galain likes the idea of going after the Emperor and Usurper. He plays the mediating figure by pointing out the bleeding obvious that it will be difficult initially to do so. But hey, it's a great idea anyway. And why not, doesn't harm Galain in any way.

Galain, on 05 October 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

Silanah, on 05 October 2011 - 07:02 PM, said:

Other than that, this is a good post. It's frustrating to me that we haven't had any kind of encounter with the warlords? They don't make up nearly as small of a faction as the usurper.

Define "encounter."

Now, it's pretty obvious that Silanah had meant a kill, lynch, or some scene info. But Galain wants to make sure - what exactly is Silanah's interest in the warlords. Galain needs to know what Sil might suspect.

Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 03:29 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 06 October 2011 - 02:03 AM, said:

and trust me, if you re-read page 17, the lot of you sound like zombies the second my name is mentioned.
i'm not denying there were cases behind each train (convenient that they were all articulated by sorritt), but i'm genuinely disturbed by the fact that no one looked anywhere else.

There really hasn't been a lot else to look at - Serc managed to dominate things rather heavily with his reveal, and he and Tiamatha have been our focus.

If we came back around to you, it's because Serc's gone and Tiamatha's a walking dead man. So ... back to our original concern about how you were possibly signalling, and how that suspicion got derailed.

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ffs, no one even mentioned voting low posters to get them to contribute.

I just kind of zone out every time I see wall-of-text type posts, and lose motivation to do it myself. I honestly just can't do that, and I certainly don't have hours to sit around and compile such lengthy cases with such tenuous conclusions. Besides, so far in this game, I've only done a single read-through. Given the weather, I might just sit down tomorrow and work my way through everything, especially since we'll have more than two data points by then.

Out of everyone, including Osseric, Galain is by far the most dismissive of Emur's case. Galain is perfectly content to go through the small group identified and lynch each one in turn, seemingly more so than any of the people accused by Emur. And why not, none of them are in his faction after all.

Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 03:41 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 06 October 2011 - 03:39 AM, said:

be honest, and call a spade a spade--no one WANTED to look anywhere else, because Osseric, Meanas and Sorrit were feeding you plausible lynch targets. so why bother?

Serc fed us himself as a plausible lynch target, and Tiamatha's the logical follow-up.

No denial of having no need to look elsewhere.

Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 03:46 AM, said:

Well ... does anyone object if I hammer while P-S might still be around?

With only a little more than three hours left, and so many votes needed, the possibility of getting a different lynch is practically nil.

Emurlahn, on 06 October 2011 - 03:51 AM, said:

I like how you change the topic with that question, too,

And Emur notices that with some pressure, Galain tries to steer away. Throughout his play, Galain has done nothing to rock the boat, only picking up on other people's cases and running with them. They haven't muddied the waters themselves in any way - in fact, Galain's been VERY careful not to, only posting just enough to be on the very periphery of our vision.

Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 11:49 PM, said:

Meanas, on 06 October 2011 - 11:36 PM, said:

That's interesting, because mine also told me the location of my emperor. Yours didn't? Yeah, fake PMs tend to leave stuff out don't they.

My Role PM did not include the location of my Emperor.

Anyone actually part of a Kingdom will know why. Thanks for giving away that you aren't.

Yeah, nice try.

Vote Galain

Because I believe that he is a warlord.

[Emurlahn]

Interesting. Basically, now we have galain and meanas at each others throats. At this time, galains getting more linked to osseric. I also did not like his "i dismiss long cases and follow the crowd" attitude

posting fromphone in class. More later.

[Silanah]

That scene leaves me seriously confused.

And shit's going down. I love this.

The role PM thing doesn't hold much merit to me. It could be different for different roles even withone the 3 middle kingdoms. So who knows.

[Galain]

Meanas, on 07 October 2011 - 12:14 AM, said:

Galain, on 03 October 2011 - 06:31 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 03 October 2011 - 04:46 AM, said:

pedantic bear sez: geishas are still Japanese.

also, I kinda see where Tiam is coming from, what with the whole "cult can't recruit, is a one-man faction, so let's look for outsiders to lynch early on" thing (at least that what I got as the general gist of it--not too sure I agree with the Emperor hunt, b/c that tends to deliniate the teams early on)

Er, the Usurper can recruit until the Emperor he's located with is dead, at least after some kind of condition to begin recruiting is met.

Tiamatha makes sense on this point - it's a good idea to kill either that Emperor (which his faction understandably won't want to go along with), or the Usurper (which everyone should want). On the flip side, it's not exactly easy to identify a role, so hunting a specific person in Mafia is damned near impossible with such a crowd. I am kind of leaning towards the notion that the person who talks most about a specific role is either a counter to that role ... or is that person theirself.

Galain likes the idea of going after the Emperor and Usurper. He plays the mediating figure by pointing out the bleeding obvious that it will be difficult initially to do so. But hey, it's a great idea anyway. And why not, doesn't harm Galain in any way.

Unless it's my Emperor.

And, uh, I'm failing to see why what I said should be held against me.

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Galain, on 05 October 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

Define "encounter."

Now, it's pretty obvious that Silanah had meant a kill, lynch, or some scene info. But Galain wants to make sure - what exactly is Silanah's interest in the warlords. Galain needs to know what Sil might suspect.

Actually, I was being somewhat facile. It's obvious we've encountered the Barbarians ... in thread. After all, everyone's posted at least once.

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Out of everyone, including Osseric, Galain is by far the most dismissive of Emur's case. Galain is perfectly content to go through the small group identified and lynch each one in turn, seemingly more so than any of the people accused by Emur. And why not, none of them are in his faction after all.

I wasn't entirely dismissive of his case - I was just pointing out that there really hadn't been anything else to go on. I've got only one other possible lead, and was going to pursue it until you shot your foot off.

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Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 03:41 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on 06 October 2011 - 03:39 AM, said:

be honest, and call a spade a spade--no one WANTED to look anywhere else, because Osseric, Meanas and Sorrit were feeding you plausible lynch targets. so why bother?

Serc fed us himself as a plausible lynch target, and Tiamatha's the logical follow-up.

No denial of having no need to look elsewhere.

Bullshit.

I never said there was no need to look elsewhere - I said there was a priority in front of us, and it was logical to deal with it.

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And Emur notices that with some pressure, Galain tries to steer away. Throughout his play, Galain has done nothing to rock the boat, only picking up on other people's cases and running with them. They haven't muddied the waters themselves in any way - in fact, Galain's been VERY careful not to, only posting just enough to be on the very periphery of our vision.

I'm a low key player.

As opposed to seeing signals that aren't there, revealing that you're obviously not a part of a Kingdom, and then dealing out a desperate OMGUS vote against me.

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Galain, on 06 October 2011 - 11:49 PM, said:

Meanas, on 06 October 2011 - 11:36 PM, said:

That's interesting, because mine also told me the location of my emperor. Yours didn't? Yeah, fake PMs tend to leave stuff out don't they.

My Role PM did not include the location of my Emperor.

Anyone actually part of a Kingdom will know why. Thanks for giving away that you aren't.

Yeah, nice try.

Vote Galain

Because I believe that he is a warlord.

And ... you deflect again the fact that you don't have information that any other Kingdom faction member would have. Then you toss down the OMGUS based on a flimsy case.

[Meanas]

I'm off to bed finally. See you all in about 8 hours.

[Meanas]

One last post, then, before I go.

Galain says: I'm a low key player.

I say: Then you're either lazy, hopping on others' work, or you've got something to hide.

G'night.

[Galain]

Meanas, on 07 October 2011 - 01:16 AM, said:

One last post, then, before I go.

Galain says: I'm a low key player.

I say: Then you're either lazy, hopping on others' work, or you've got something to hide.

Or ... this is the way I play every single game.

And WTF kind of attack is, "you've got something to hide?" Of course I have something to hide. We're playing fucking MAFIA. If you don't have something to hide, you ... uh, well, you aren't playing MAFIA, and should stop posting, because you're in the wrong forum.

[Emurlahn]

back from class.

I can't wait for the long weeknd. seriously, i'm checked out right now.


Galain and Meanas scuffle is curious.

the fact that they are arguing about the content of an average peon's PM, makes it likely they are

Emperor
Prime Minister
Warlord



lots of good stuff to go on.

[Atrahal]

I had a few minutes to catch up before bed.

For most of the games I have played I can say that I usualy get myself hung for making mistakes like the one Meanas made. Some games I just open my mouth and insert my foot. But wow Meanas has half his leg in his mouth.

Remove vote

Vote Meanas

[Ruse]

We've really got two dogs believing they've tree'd something juicy. Galain and Sil really went after their targets hard, although I see a more merit-steady approach to Sil's case than Galain's attacking.

At this point I feel more inclined towards voting Osseric, since I'm not sure Meanas' brain fart is quite the slip-up Galain thinks it is.

[Ruse]

Emurlahn, on 07 October 2011 - 02:36 AM, said:

back from class.

I can't wait for the long weeknd. seriously, i'm checked out right now.


Galain and Meanas scuffle is curious.

the fact that they are arguing about the content of an average peon's PM, makes it likely they are

Emperor
Prime Minister
Warlord



lots of good stuff to go on.

Are you arguing that both Galain and Meanas are things things based on teh argument itself?

[Emurlahn]

at least one of them has to be.

although there's a certain irony to voting off Meanas for a slip up after the grief his comma-gate has caused me, i'd still prefer an Osseric lynch. Meanas didn't try to strawman me, at least.

[Galain]

Ruse, on 07 October 2011 - 03:16 AM, said:

We've really got two dogs believing they've tree'd something juicy. Galain and Sil really went after their targets hard, although I see a more merit-steady approach to Sil's case than Galain's attacking.

At this point I feel more inclined towards voting Osseric, since I'm not sure Meanas' brain fart is quite the slip-up Galain thinks it is.

Hey, you guys wanted alternatives to follow-the-leader (not that we're not seeing plenty of that, with Silanah practically dry-humping Osseric).

There's an alternative.

[Galain]

Fuck, I meant Emurlahn, not Osseric.

[Path-Shaper]

It is 228 AD. 20 hours and 39 minutes remaining
21 Players still alive: Atrahal, Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Hood's Path, Karosis, Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Osseric, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Silanah, Sorritt, Telas, Tennes, Thyrllan

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night.

5 Votes for Meanas ( Osseric, Tennes, Galain, Okaros, Atrahal )
3 Votes for Osseric ( Emurlahn, Silanah, Sorritt )
1 Vote for Galain ( Meanas )

Players not voted: Barghast, Hood's Path, Karosis, Kaschan, Kessobahn, Korlat, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Thyrllan

[Emurlahn]

well, she's also pretty heavy on Osseric, so you are not entirely wrong there...

[Galain]

Emurlahn, on 07 October 2011 - 04:08 AM, said:

well, she's also pretty heavy on Osseric, so you are not entirely wrong there...

That, and I've had either too much to drink, or not enough.

[Emurlahn]

certainly, it must be not enough

sigh. I have packing to do.