[Sheltatha Lore]

@ Okaros - haven't heard much from you in this mess, care to share your thoughts? There are some questions about your identity that haven't been answered, I'm wondering how your allegiances will go?

[Korlat]

Come to the White Rider side, we have fortune cookies.

[Okaros]

I've already admitted that I'd throw my hat in with the barbs(like I have a choice at this point). Basically it comes down to keeping the field level enough so that the barbs can compete with Yan and whatever remnants there are from the central factions. The usurper is out, so I am unsure as to where that leaves his recruits. Are they acting on their own, or do they revert back? I think we'll have to wait until night is resolved for that extra bit of information.

[Okaros]

Well I'll be working on another paper the rest of the night. I'll keep the tab open and share my thoughts whenever I feel like procrastinating.

[Emurlahn]

my thoughts (now that i'm back)

Shelly is the hidden role.
she gotta go next.

[Okaros]

Why? Is a secret role more dangerous than others?

[Emurlahn]

Okaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:49 AM, said:

Why? Is a secret role more dangerous than others?

could be killer. dunno.
best to eliminate.

[Emurlahn]

Okaros, on 20 October 2011 - 03:49 AM, said:

Why? Is a secret role more dangerous than others?

Me
Kesso
Tennes
Bargy
Ma Chao
Karosis



do not posess offensive powers.

Korlat does.
yan third (Assassin? Lover?) might.

Korlat is a known quantity. the Yan third isn't

such is my thinking.

[Kessobahn]

Night is still going on? Is someone delaying it on purpose? There were honestly only 2 lynch targets when everyone was here, why wouldn't you put in a provisional. Delaying night is against the rules and since the game has gone on so long already, really quite annoying.

[Path-Shaper]

(another long scene... got carried away again)

Having routed the usurpers within Yan, the renowned Wei Yan sought to use his army's high morale to take Luo Yang and end the Xia-Yan stalemate. He moved all the troops in Dong JUn down to the banks of the RIver Wei. Between the hills on one side and the river on the other lay a flat stretch of barren land, a perfect battlefield. Wei Yan had been expected the Xia forces to remain behind the walls of Luo Yang, but arrayed across the barren plain was a large army bearing the banners of Shen Pei, King of Zhong, said to be Yuan Tan's greatest servant with the mind of a million men. As the two forces faced each other, the archers got ready to pin down the flanks of the opposing side. After three rolls of the drums the Yan line opened at its center, and Wei Yan rode forth, his commanders in train.

Shen Pei, seated erect in his four-wheeled carriage, cried out: "My emperor's legitimacy rests on the model of Shun's election by Yao. Our house, now in its second reign, rules the northern realm securely, tolerating the kingdoms of Lu and Yan because our sovereign's liberal compassion and ample benevolence make him reluctant to bring suffering to the people. You, a mere plowman from Nanyang who knows nothing of the Heavenly-appointed course of events, will meet with the fate you deserve if you insist on pursuing this aggression against our realm. But you and your commanders can still save yourselves if you will reflect and alter your course, withdraw now and let our kingdoms defend their borders in a settled order, thus sparing the common souls of our lands the miseries of war."

Wei Yan, his face flushed with shame, replied, "Soon the house of Yan will crush the Xia clan. Your grandsire and your sire were vassals of Han; for generations your people made their living from the Han. But you forget the debt you ow and aid the usurper. How ashamed you must be now! Let the two of us decide here and now which is the rooster and which the hen! If you win, I swear to resign as general. If you lose, you must return to your village - under my guarantee of safety, of course."

Shen Pei said in response: "Do you want to fight with commanders? With troops? Or with orders of battle?" "First with orders of battle!" Wei Yan answered. Shen Pei said, "Then let me see your array." Wei Yan went into his command tent and took in hand a yellow standard that he waved in the wind. Left and right the troops moved, deploying into line. Wei Yan remounted and rode forth from the position. "Can you name this array?" he demanded. Shen Pei answered, "Our lowliest commander could do that one - the 'Beginning of Form.'" "Now you display your line," Wei Yan said. Shen Pei went back among his men, waved his fan, and reemerged in front of his order of battle. "Do you recognize it?" he asked Wei Yan. "That has to be the 'Formation of Eight Hexagrams,'" came the reply. "Entirely correct," Shen Pei said. "Do you want to try and attack it?" "I know what it is," Wei Yan responded, "so why not?" "Do so!" Shen Pei dared.

Shen Pei and Wei Yan are having a debate (with armies)!

Wei Yan returned to his line and summoned three commanders, Dai Ling, Zhang Hu, and Yue Chen, and told them, "Shen Pei has deployed his forces in a square with eight gates - Desist, Survive, Injure, Confound, Exhibit, Perish, Surprise, and Liberate. We will attack through the eastern gate, Survive, and fight our way through the western gate, Desist, and then back to the northern gate, Liberate. His formation can be broken, but you must use all due caution." Wei Yan leader, the commanders proceeded to attack through Survive with a force of thirty cavalry each. The opposing armies cheered their forces on.

When the Yan commanders entered the Xia formation, they found it a continuous wall which they could not penetrate. The commanders hurriedly led their men around the base of the formation in an attempt to break out from the southwest, but Xia archers checked their advance. The formation was like a maze, with multiple and intersecting lanes, each having its own entrance and exit. Who could tell the four direction any more? The commanders lost contact and could only hurl themselves wildly along the lanes. But all they saw were brooding clouds that struck fear in their hearts and a dense mist closing in on them. As war cries rose around them, the southern troops were seized and bound one by one and then delivered to the main Xia camp.

Shen Pei was seated in the command tent before which Wei Yan, his three commanders and their hundred and twenty followers stood captive. "Do not be surprised that I was able to capture all of you," Shen Pei began. "I will send you back. Brush up on your military manuals and pay greater heed to tactics. There's still time to decide which of us is the rooster and which the hen!" Shen Pei had the southern soldiers stripped, their faces blackened; then he let them leave the formation on foot. Halfway back across the barren plain, surrounded on one side by his own army and on the other side by Shen Pei's, Wei Yan, overcome with embarrassment, found a pile of rocks and dashed his head upon them until he died.




Barghast (Tapper) is dead. He was Wei Yan, Vice-Chief of State, the Prime Minister of the Yan Dynasty.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 October 2011 - 04:53 AM

[Path-Shaper]

It is 235 AD (Day 11). 35 hours and 59 minutes remaining
7 Players still alive: Emurlahn, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korlat, Okaros, Sheltatha Lore, Tennes

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Emurlahn, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korlat, Okaros, Sheltatha Lore, Tennes

[Kessobahn]

<3 PS.

Ok. So 4 players to go lynch.

Karosis/Korlat, I have a proposal, assuming you are the 2 person barbarian team.

Since our lady of darkness, Korlat, can kill and no one in the game can block her but me, let us have a tea ceremony to discuss some stuff.

1) With our two factions, we have an unassailable voting bloc
2) If it comes down to 2v2, I block Korlat every night, and our leaders are able to do nothing, leading both of our factions to victory.
3) Emurlahn apologizes for killing your distant relatives, and gives you lots of land to rule over.

All other situations I see end up having both our factions reduced by one player, leading to a crap-shoot as to who wins.

Thoughts? PS - if you two are not together, now would be the time to come out. I would like to hear from both Korlat and Karosis before any votes are placed

[Kessobahn]

The above PS is post script, not referencing Path-Shaper.

[Kessobahn]

The first PS in 2972 was Path Shaper. The second was Post Script.

[Emurlahn]

Kessobahn, on 20 October 2011 - 04:59 AM, said:

<3 PS.

Ok. So 4 players to go lynch.

Karosis/Korlat, I have a proposal, assuming you are the 2 person barbarian team.

Since our lady of darkness, Korlat, can kill and no one in the game can block her but me, let us have a tea ceremony to discuss some stuff.

1) With our two factions, we have an unassailable voting bloc
2) If it comes down to 2v2, I block Korlat every night, and our leaders are able to do nothing, leading both of our factions to victory.
3) Emurlahn apologizes for killing your distant relatives, and gives you lots of land to rule over.

All other situations I see end up having both our factions reduced by one player, leading to a crap-shoot as to who wins.

Thoughts? PS - if you two are not together, now would be the time to come out. I would like to hear from both Korlat and Karosis before any votes are placed

my name is Yuan Tan and I endorse this proposal.


also, well done Shen Pei

and it was my esteemed father that killed your family. I deeply regret that out two great lines have had to come to blows like that.

[Kessobahn]

Ahem, let me go through other scenarios for our lovely barbarian friends.

Scenario Yan + Barbs. After you vote off either me or Emurlahn, Yan must vote off Korlat as they cannot counter Korlat's kill power, especially since it appears Shelly is a lover.

Scenario Yan + Xia. Well it could work, but not well for the Barbs, and I don't like Tennes' face. Plus he is probably angry that I just convinced his PM to suicide himself.

I'm going to guess that we have not seen Okaros and Shelly on our tile (you know what I'm talking about) because they are stuck screwing around on a tile at least 2 moves away. I would suggest that our course of order would be to vote of Shelly (in case she is an assassin and I am wrong about the lover.), then Korlat you attempt to kill Okaros, if it fails because he is too far away, we vote off Tennes, then try to kill Okaros again. If it fails again we end the Okaros threat.

After that it should be a stalemate and game over.

[Tennes]

dammit... why would tapper duel?... save it for the next night then roll the dice. ah well. twas fun. but i doubt drek is gonna let you tie... this is to the death. its in OP.

off to bed.

[Kessobahn]

I forgot to mention, Barbs, that if Shelly is an assassin and makes it to our tile, you have plenty to fear as you will not be able to NK her, but if I get the game as I think I do, Karosis cannot protect both of you each night.

[Kessobahn]

Tennes, on 20 October 2011 - 05:21 AM, said:

dammit... why would tapper duel?... save it for the next night then roll the dice. ah well. twas fun. but i doubt drek is gonna let you tie... this is to the death. its in OP.

off to bed.

In a 2v2 when the factions cannot harm each other, there is no other result.

As that is your only response to my plan, I understand that you see and agree with the scenarios I have put in thread. Excellent.

[Karosis]

well this is easy then.


vote sheltatha


that hidden role is too much of an unknown factor for me.