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Mafia 78 - Rot3K Chapter 6: The End of the Three Kingdoms Game Thread

#1781 User is offline   Silanah 

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 11:53 PM

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View PostGalain, on 07 October 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 07 October 2011 - 06:40 PM, said:

I'm not going to get much more time to work on thread so I am going to go ahead and vote. Sorrit makes a good point, a supposed emperor makes a better choice than a warlord.

vote Osseric



FWIW at this late point, Meanas is also possibly a supposed Emperor.

After all, who else would get mixed up as to whether they'd been told their Prime Minister instead of their Emperor ... besides someone who really was told their PM?



View PostGalain, on 10 October 2011 - 11:43 PM, said:

Holy shit ... just got back on for the first time since Friday ... and ... OK.

I was going to anyways, but this just cinches it:


Vote Meanas


I'm not convinced that's actually the hammer, of course.



View PostGalain, on 11 October 2011 - 04:05 AM, said:

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View PostKessobahn, on 11 October 2011 - 03:00 AM, said:

I'm so very very confused. I'm also back after a long weekend and I think I need to re-read because that shit was weird.



it's ok, Khell can have that effect.
especially on the not-so-sober minds.



I was cold sober reading through that. I wish I hadn't been.


View PostGalain, on 11 October 2011 - 08:31 AM, said:

Headed to bed, before Day starts it seems. Both in-game and IRL ...



View PostGalain, on 12 October 2011 - 05:39 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 12 October 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:

Back from class. I'm tired, and starving, so I'm not going to do any serious mafia playing until the morning. We have ample time. It seems we've decided to start a Warlord/champion hunt. We have overlooked their little factions for a while, so it makes sense. There has also been talk of low posters and coasting. It seems that warlord and usurper roles would benefit greatly from staying under the radar seeing as they gain the most by letting the factions destroy one another for as long as possible.



You know, I just read back through all your posts ... and if ever there was a person who was coasting, it's you.

Nearly half your posts use the phrase "checking in," or talk about how you'll back later, or will read more in depth ... and there's never any follow on. You just piggy-back other people's arguments, never get in a fight, and generally ... coast.

So if anyone fits the Warlord faction profile - as you yourself define it - it's, well, you.


View PostGalain, on 12 October 2011 - 07:48 AM, said:

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View PostGalain, on 12 October 2011 - 05:39 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 12 October 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:

Back from class. I'm tired, and starving, so I'm not going to do any serious mafia playing until the morning. We have ample time. It seems we've decided to start a Warlord/champion hunt. We have overlooked their little factions for a while, so it makes sense. There has also been talk of low posters and coasting. It seems that warlord and usurper roles would benefit greatly from staying under the radar seeing as they gain the most by letting the factions destroy one another for as long as possible.



You know, I just read back through all your posts ... and if ever there was a person who was coasting, it's you.

Nearly half your posts use the phrase "checking in," or talk about how you'll back later, or will read more in depth ... and there's never any follow on. You just piggy-back other people's arguments, never get in a fight, and generally ... coast.

So if anyone fits the Warlord faction profile - as you yourself define it - it's, well, you.


Galain what do you think about Karosis?



I have no read on them. I'll try to do a read-through of their posts, but my ISP keeps dying, and I just polished off a bottle of wine at 1 a.m. ... we'll see. The fact that I can't remember anything they've said is at least somewhat telling, though.


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Posted 13 October 2011 - 11:58 PM

36-now (45)

View PostGalain, on 13 October 2011 - 02:29 AM, said:

Been away a while ... I'm really only here for my evenings and early nights, to be honest.

View PostRuse, on 13 October 2011 - 01:46 AM, said:

With the number of night kills (lack), he didnt have much success as an assassin.



This may have more to do with tiles and movements than anything.

Any actions getting through are unlikely early on ... perhaps he was responsible for Rashan.


View PostGalain, on 13 October 2011 - 05:34 AM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 13 October 2011 - 05:16 AM, said:

huh

i'm guessing the latter part is about Ma Chao's crew

the first part.... no clue.




They sound complementary.



2 posts in 10 pages. Hm.

I'm done. Sorry for spam, but if you look, he was a reasonably high poster for a while, is definitely laying low now.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 12:38 AM

Back from the library. Holy balls Silanah you are fantastic. I need to go over those posts and I'll see what there is to see. I'll follow up in a minute or two when I'm done.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 12:57 AM

Sorry homework took most of the day. Who's around and wants to talk?

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:00 AM

Well I'm around and catching up. Looks like HP and Karosis are being put in the too hard basket? Hmm...

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:04 AM

Galain is getting a look to.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:05 AM

Well that collection of posts is interesting. Things we could note would include Galain's tendency to focus on Emperors and the Usurper; he rarely mentions the barbarians, and when he does it was after being accused. Galain also seems to get defensive when questioned, or, if not defensive, than he provokes conflict. This could be because he has a powerful role, but I think if we take the first couple lynches of the game into account, we can deduce that people in general will get defensive even when they aren't power players. So I can't pin his specific role, but I think we may have a possible barbarian. I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts on the matter.

Galain did mention Silanah's tendency to side with Emur. I mentioned my similar suspicion earlier, but it seemed like I had misunderstood an exchange between the two rather than noticing anything concrete. But it seems just as likely that Silanah is just agreeing with some of Emur's ideas (most of the speculation mid game onwards has been done by Emurlahn). We'll need more to connect the two, I think.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:08 AM

Atrahal and Thyr, what are your thoughts on Galain?

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:14 AM

Since I have time, figured I'd gather some of Atrahal's posts. here's pages 1-10. A lot of heat sent Atrahal's way in these pages. Some suspected Atrahal as being Game's emperor, then Emurlahn's. Weird stuff, I didn't really pay attention to it at the time.


View PostAtrahal, on 28 September 2011 - 11:58 PM, said:

I bow my head in beardless shame. But my "Accordion of Doom" (trademarked) shall bring all the Geisha to the zen garden.



View PostAtrahal, on 29 September 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

Yes they travel far for my sweet songs.



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View PostOkaros, on 29 September 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

oh snap


Are those Whitey Tighties on your head?



View PostAtrahal, on 29 September 2011 - 03:41 PM, said:

I'm seriously over whelmed at work at the moment and will try to get caught up when I get home. I should be able to get back before time out.

The best I can do today.



View PostAtrahal, on 29 September 2011 - 11:41 PM, said:

That was a lot of reading to get caught up on.

I need to make dinner, then I will try to make heads or tails of what has gone on today.



View PostAtrahal, on 30 September 2011 - 12:47 AM, said:

So Emu hints at being a civil servant, Gam calls him on it. Votes ensue.

Gam is voting for Serc because he says Serc is not looking hard enough at other players.

Gam is being voted for because of a comma in an Emu post.(punctuation, it's a bitch)

Tiam is first to bring up a role, so Omtose votes for Okaros for bringing it up next.




It think that covers it for this point in day 1. Have I missed anything?


Oh, and Gam looks like how I would picture an oriental Kruppe.



View PostAtrahal, on 30 September 2011 - 12:48 AM, said:

I vote for a full freeze over the weekend.



View PostAtrahal, on 30 September 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

I was hoping Gam would get back before I headed to bed. But that being the case, I will leave with a vote for him. More for it being the largest train, and we need the info from a lynch.

vote Gamelon


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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:16 AM

I'm thinking a Prime minister not sure why, more for his trying not to be obvious. I would try to play that roll that way, playing it kind of cool, not to confrontational. I'm not picking up what kingdom though.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:21 AM

View PostOkaros, on 14 October 2011 - 01:05 AM, said:

Well that collection of posts is interesting. Things we could note would include Galain's tendency to focus on Emperors and the Usurper; he rarely mentions the barbarians, and when he does it was after being accused. Galain also seems to get defensive when questioned, or, if not defensive, than he provokes conflict. This could be because he has a powerful role, but I think if we take the first couple lynches of the game into account, we can deduce that people in general will get defensive even when they aren't power players. So I can't pin his specific role, but I think we may have a possible barbarian. I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts on the matter.

Galain did mention Silanah's tendency to side with Emur. I mentioned my similar suspicion earlier, but it seemed like I had misunderstood an exchange between the two rather than noticing anything concrete. But it seems just as likely that Silanah is just agreeing with some of Emur's ideas (most of the speculation mid game onwards has been done by Emurlahn). We'll need more to connect the two, I think.


Silanah was initially accused by Emur of following Osseric, was she not? I think just Silanah tends to like to have someone who comes across as authoritative to follow, because, well, it's easier than making waves yourself. Which I understand, to an extent.

In terms of Galain, I actually did something similar on you Okaros, before I got distracted by something, and I noticed you talk about barbarians quite a bit, and I came to the same conclusion that you did about Galain, but for the opposite reason ;)

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:21 AM

I may not be one of those you asked, but I do find it odd that things swung away from Galain so easily. I had originally thought that Meanas and Galain were both suspicious, but very little was said about Galain yesterday. Mind you, we had the Khell blow up after a weekend as an obvious lynch, so the suspicions were a few RL days old by the time anyone would have considered him again. There have been a couple of comments here and there about Galain, but prior to Sil's posts nobody has made an effort to go after him.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:21 AM

View PostOkaros, on 14 October 2011 - 01:05 AM, said:

Well that collection of posts is interesting. Things we could note would include Galain's tendency to focus on Emperors and the Usurper; he rarely mentions the barbarians, and when he does it was after being accused. Galain also seems to get defensive when questioned, or, if not defensive, than he provokes conflict. This could be because he has a powerful role, but I think if we take the first couple lynches of the game into account, we can deduce that people in general will get defensive even when they aren't power players. So I can't pin his specific role, but I think we may have a possible barbarian. I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts on the matter.

Galain did mention Silanah's tendency to side with Emur. I mentioned my similar suspicion earlier, but it seemed like I had misunderstood an exchange between the two rather than noticing anything concrete. But it seems just as likely that Silanah is just agreeing with some of Emur's ideas (most of the speculation mid game onwards has been done by Emurlahn). We'll need more to connect the two, I think.



Don't sell others short. Plenty of people have been speculating lately. Emur's ideas are often very abstract, and others make them more concrete.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:25 AM

Here are posts 10-25 of Atrahal.

View PostAtrahal, on 03 October 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

I just read the case on Tiam from start to finish, and I can not say I am impressed. I see many cases of players ignoring answers and strawmaning. But that being said, lynching Tiam, and getting a CF would give a lot of info into the players pushing it, and the players avoiding it. I am going to vote for the known as apposed to the unknown. I think we have a lot more on Serc at this point and I think his play at the end of day yesterday is way to telling to me.

I will be back before end of day to shift my vote to Tiam if Serc comes back with a good defense. But for now I will up the count on Serc.

Vote Serc



View PostAtrahal, on 04 October 2011 - 10:50 AM, said:

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out. I just read up and and still think Serc was the best place for my vote today. To many slips IMMHO, and his reveal sound like Kahn "with my last breath I stab at thee"



View PostAtrahal, on 05 October 2011 - 04:11 AM, said:

So no connection between Serc and Gamelon, and Tiam's paranoia has turned out to be well founded. Was Serc's reveal real or a stab in desperation. I have to think, and my head hurts.



View PostAtrahal, on 05 October 2011 - 05:36 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 05 October 2011 - 05:14 AM, said:

I almost forgot the phoenix bird is used to represent the south in Chinese geomagnetism.


Fucking great!!! now we have to fucking worry about magnets too!!!!



View PostAtrahal, on 06 October 2011 - 12:34 AM, said:

Just passing thru. To friging tired to get properly caught up tonight. RL is just to crazy today. Again sorry I will try to get some time tomorrow.



View PostAtrahal, on 06 October 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

Hello my name is Atrahal, and I am a low poster.

I have no way to change that. I have very little time to put into this game.To be honest I didn't think I would live this long in the game anyway being a low poster. I joined the game so D'rek would have the numbers to run this. I'm hoping to have more time after this weekend to play. That is the best I can do. RL has been a real pain in the ass around here and I have to get a lot of stuff done in the next 48 to 72 hrs that will take away from the game. I have been trying my best just keep up to date with the thread on my phone. The best case so far today that I can see is on Osseric, and I will vote accordingly now because I don't think I will be back by end of day.

Vote Osseric



View PostAtrahal, on 07 October 2011 - 03:03 AM, said:

I had a few minutes to catch up before bed.

For most of the games I have played I can say that I usualy get myself hung for making mistakes like the one Meanas made. Some games I just open my mouth and insert my foot. But wow Meanas has half his leg in his mouth.

Remove vote

Vote Meanas





The only thing I'm getting out of these pages is that Atrahal's a busy dude. He was accused of coasting several times within these pages, but altogether nothing of substance was put against him.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:26 AM

That being said, it's usually him or me making early day votes. Posting times, I would guess.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:32 AM

View PostThyrllan, on 14 October 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 14 October 2011 - 01:05 AM, said:

Well that collection of posts is interesting. Things we could note would include Galain's tendency to focus on Emperors and the Usurper; he rarely mentions the barbarians, and when he does it was after being accused. Galain also seems to get defensive when questioned, or, if not defensive, than he provokes conflict. This could be because he has a powerful role, but I think if we take the first couple lynches of the game into account, we can deduce that people in general will get defensive even when they aren't power players. So I can't pin his specific role, but I think we may have a possible barbarian. I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts on the matter.

Galain did mention Silanah's tendency to side with Emur. I mentioned my similar suspicion earlier, but it seemed like I had misunderstood an exchange between the two rather than noticing anything concrete. But it seems just as likely that Silanah is just agreeing with some of Emur's ideas (most of the speculation mid game onwards has been done by Emurlahn). We'll need more to connect the two, I think.


Silanah was initially accused by Emur of following Osseric, was she not? I think just Silanah tends to like to have someone who comes across as authoritative to follow, because, well, it's easier than making waves yourself. Which I understand, to an extent.

In terms of Galain, I actually did something similar on you Okaros, before I got distracted by something, and I noticed you talk about barbarians quite a bit, and I came to the same conclusion that you did about Galain, but for the opposite reason ;)



Yeah I guess that makes sense in regards to Silanah's play style. hah oh damn, I never noticed you had a case against me. I would have acknowledged it otherwise. When you put it that way I guess we can't tell for sure what someone's role is based on whether or not they mention the particular role. As you say, depending on who is interpreting the posts one could easily say the same for myself for completely opposite reasons. In of itself, it is a weak case to put against Galain, but something to think about.

View PostKaschan, on 14 October 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

I may not be one of those you asked, but I do find it odd that things swung away from Galain so easily. I had originally thought that Meanas and Galain were both suspicious, but very little was said about Galain yesterday. Mind you, we had the Khell blow up after a weekend as an obvious lynch, so the suspicions were a few RL days old by the time anyone would have considered him again. There have been a couple of comments here and there about Galain, but prior to Sil's posts nobody has made an effort to go after him.


Ah I wasn't aware you were around Kaschan. Yeah I'm discovering a similar situation with Atrahal, in that there was a lot of suspicion cast on him early game, but it was blown over by other events. Maybe it's because of the weird behaviour of some of the lynch targets drawing attention away.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:35 AM

View PostSilanah, on 14 October 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 14 October 2011 - 01:05 AM, said:

Well that collection of posts is interesting. Things we could note would include Galain's tendency to focus on Emperors and the Usurper; he rarely mentions the barbarians, and when he does it was after being accused. Galain also seems to get defensive when questioned, or, if not defensive, than he provokes conflict. This could be because he has a powerful role, but I think if we take the first couple lynches of the game into account, we can deduce that people in general will get defensive even when they aren't power players. So I can't pin his specific role, but I think we may have a possible barbarian. I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts on the matter.

Galain did mention Silanah's tendency to side with Emur. I mentioned my similar suspicion earlier, but it seemed like I had misunderstood an exchange between the two rather than noticing anything concrete. But it seems just as likely that Silanah is just agreeing with some of Emur's ideas (most of the speculation mid game onwards has been done by Emurlahn). We'll need more to connect the two, I think.



Don't sell others short. Plenty of people have been speculating lately. Emur's ideas are often very abstract, and others make them more concrete.


I'll keep this in mind. I would even say that Barghast has been posting much more frequently of late (maybe even more so than Emur), and much of it seems to have substance. Ever since he was accused of being a potential barbarian, I believe.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:36 AM

I am a very busy person, that being said I was home all day and didn't get F all done.(game wise). And I will admit I am just a tad over my head in this game. It's very hard to follow with limited time, this many rules, this many people, factions, and roles.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:37 AM

My problem is finding something to cause the first glimmer of something strange.

I can when two people are fighting, but when someone points something out, I find it easier to go look at that person, that way.

You guys suck. I do my own thing, Emur just steals my goddamn ideas.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:38 AM

View PostOkaros, on 14 October 2011 - 01:35 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 14 October 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 14 October 2011 - 01:05 AM, said:

Well that collection of posts is interesting. Things we could note would include Galain's tendency to focus on Emperors and the Usurper; he rarely mentions the barbarians, and when he does it was after being accused. Galain also seems to get defensive when questioned, or, if not defensive, than he provokes conflict. This could be because he has a powerful role, but I think if we take the first couple lynches of the game into account, we can deduce that people in general will get defensive even when they aren't power players. So I can't pin his specific role, but I think we may have a possible barbarian. I'd like to hear someone else's thoughts on the matter.

Galain did mention Silanah's tendency to side with Emur. I mentioned my similar suspicion earlier, but it seemed like I had misunderstood an exchange between the two rather than noticing anything concrete. But it seems just as likely that Silanah is just agreeing with some of Emur's ideas (most of the speculation mid game onwards has been done by Emurlahn). We'll need more to connect the two, I think.



Don't sell others short. Plenty of people have been speculating lately. Emur's ideas are often very abstract, and others make them more concrete.


I'll keep this in mind. I would even say that Barghast has been posting much more frequently of late (maybe even more so than Emur), and much of it seems to have substance. Ever since he was accused of being a potential barbarian, I believe.


I've always thought Barghast was a relatively good content poster, but yeah he has picked up.

Way too wild, for my tastes. He's due here at some point soon, isnt he? I'm losing track of people's posting times.

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