[Karosis]

yea when i hear "assassin" the first thing that comes to mind is a finder...


but watever...its seems everyone is dead set on forcing this square peg into the round hole.

[Silanah]

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

yea when i hear "assassin" the first thing that comes to mind is a finder...


but watever...its seems everyone is dead set on forcing this square peg into the round hole.

Well, what would you suggest an Assassin to be? My idea is killer/finder, but that's obviously just a theory.

[Karosis]

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

Silanah, on 13 October 2011 - 05:20 PM, said:

So, if anyone is interested, here's my opinion.

HP was under very little pressure, yet he freaked the fuck out.
He went from being well spoken and usually insightful to HERP DERP WHAT ARE RULES AHHH YOU SUCK!

Karosis is handling the situation pretty well, but the facts don't add up.

I'm not particularly certain of anything, yet. But I think there is a possibility that they are the same faction. HP's style change seems to imply attention grabbing. Maybe we got someone important with Karosis? I'm not sure.

HP, you say you know what tile Karosis is on. Mind sharing that info?

Also: My internet went out last night, and it's still REALLY slow, sorry about the double post thing. I lost this post too, luckily I thought to ctrl-c as it was trying to send.

Actually no I don't want to share that info. I just know that an illumination happened in my location and the number of players in my location means that there has to be players outside of my faction. Karosis was one of those players.

yea...but that doest mean we arent in the same faction either?

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

I'm sorry you thought I freaked the fuck out but when people are accusing you of things that are untrue then I tend to get a bit emotional.

Also does anyone want to test out the whole finder reveal thing? Serc's find earlier in the game on Tiam turned out true when he was on the chopping block. Why wouldn't Omtose's find reveal work the same?

I dont know...maybe because serc CF'd as a freaken Finder, while omtose was an assassin.
im actually tired of beating this old donkey.

If im around tomorrow then some other shmuck who feels some pressure is just going to ride this same old donkey right through town.

just lynch me and be done with it...im tired of this same old spiel.
Usurper can get another recruit and the barbarians can have a good laugh at you lot,.

[Tennes]

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 October 2011 - 04:18 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 04:10 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 03:21 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 03:01 PM, said:

I havent moved..daaamn..still int he same place.

Dont know what the fuck HP has been smoking.


He was probably gaurded and doesnt understand how that works

If I was guarded then how could I perform a block?

huh?

Gottcha on that one.

no...i just dont understand.

You say "nothing happened", then you claim "you performed a block"?
so wich is it?

Both.

I was given notice that I blocked an action, so my action was done on a successful target and I wasn't guarded. Yet my action didn't succeed. If we are in the same location, which you are claiming that you haven't moved since yesterday, then you couldn't have blocked my action. I received no resolution from my action. Explain that?

my word you are naive... how do you know i couldnt have blocked your action?

Only way would be that you think that I have the same role as you, since you claim to know what i can and cant block.

you think i am a barbarian.......busted!!!

This seems a lot like you are admitting you are a barb and want to take HP with you.

Thats exactly what I thought.

[Karosis]

Silanah, on 13 October 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

yea when i hear "assassin" the first thing that comes to mind is a finder...


but watever...its seems everyone is dead set on forcing this square peg into the round hole.

Well, what would you suggest an Assassin to be? My idea is killer/finder, but that's obviously just a theory.

i would think someone that can move freely from tile to tile perhaps even stealthily and obviously kill.
but a finder AND a killer?..no....just no.
why not give him 10 BP's while we are at it?

[Karosis]

Tennes, on 13 October 2011 - 06:25 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 October 2011 - 04:18 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 04:10 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 03:21 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 03:01 PM, said:

I havent moved..daaamn..still int he same place.

Dont know what the fuck HP has been smoking.


He was probably gaurded and doesnt understand how that works

If I was guarded then how could I perform a block?

huh?

Gottcha on that one.

no...i just dont understand.

You say "nothing happened", then you claim "you performed a block"?
so wich is it?

Both.

I was given notice that I blocked an action, so my action was done on a successful target and I wasn't guarded. Yet my action didn't succeed. If we are in the same location, which you are claiming that you haven't moved since yesterday, then you couldn't have blocked my action. I received no resolution from my action. Explain that?

my word you are naive... how do you know i couldnt have blocked your action?

Only way would be that you think that I have the same role as you, since you claim to know what i can and cant block.

you think i am a barbarian.......busted!!!

This seems a lot like you are admitting you are a barb and want to take HP with you.

Thats exactly what I thought.

DOH!

[Silanah]

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:27 PM, said:

Silanah, on 13 October 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

yea when i hear "assassin" the first thing that comes to mind is a finder...


but watever...its seems everyone is dead set on forcing this square peg into the round hole.

Well, what would you suggest an Assassin to be? My idea is killer/finder, but that's obviously just a theory.

i would think someone that can move freely from tile to tile perhaps even stealthily and obviously kill.
but a finder AND a killer?..no....just no.
why not give him 10 BP's while we are at it?

If you think about it, the rank and file of the middle kingdoms are finders AND killers. They just have to switch back and forth. It doesn;t seem far stretched.

The moving thing seems likely, as well.

[Silanah]

As likely as anything else, that is. All speculation.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:25 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

Silanah, on 13 October 2011 - 05:20 PM, said:

So, if anyone is interested, here's my opinion.

HP was under very little pressure, yet he freaked the fuck out.
He went from being well spoken and usually insightful to HERP DERP WHAT ARE RULES AHHH YOU SUCK!

Karosis is handling the situation pretty well, but the facts don't add up.

I'm not particularly certain of anything, yet. But I think there is a possibility that they are the same faction. HP's style change seems to imply attention grabbing. Maybe we got someone important with Karosis? I'm not sure.

HP, you say you know what tile Karosis is on. Mind sharing that info?

Also: My internet went out last night, and it's still REALLY slow, sorry about the double post thing. I lost this post too, luckily I thought to ctrl-c as it was trying to send.

Actually no I don't want to share that info. I just know that an illumination happened in my location and the number of players in my location means that there has to be players outside of my faction. Karosis was one of those players.

yea...but that doest mean we arent in the same faction either?

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

I'm sorry you thought I freaked the fuck out but when people are accusing you of things that are untrue then I tend to get a bit emotional.

Also does anyone want to test out the whole finder reveal thing? Serc's find earlier in the game on Tiam turned out true when he was on the chopping block. Why wouldn't Omtose's find reveal work the same?

I dont know...maybe because serc CF'd as a freaken Finder, while omtose was an assassin.
im actually tired of beating this old donkey.

If im around tomorrow then some other shmuck who feels some pressure is just going to ride this same old donkey right through town.

just lynch me and be done with it...im tired of this same old spiel.
Usurper can get another recruit and the barbarians can have a good laugh at you lot,.

Are you now admitting to being a recruit?


Vote Karosis

[Tennes]

Well, this is a real pickle. Unfortunately, at this point, A Karosis or HP lynch would give us the most to go on. I mean, if Karosis CF's Barbarian we can be pretty sure that HP is 3 kingdoms. If Karosis comes back 3 Kingdoms, it's likely that HP is a barbarian or champion. Either way, we have ourselves a barbarian in our sights.

Other people worth looking at in my opinion:

Telas- He has faded from the game ever since Khell called him out as possible usurper. I am surprised no one has jumped on this. BUT, usurper has had 3 nights to recruit. if he has 3 recruits and himself... there might be a reason that this has been brushed under the rug. That combined with his sickness/absence/work/whatever basically a stepping back from the fray, i believe he is a good candidate for Usurper.

Galain: Has also vanished after early pressure and has become a non entity.


Honestly.. I would prefer a Telas vote. If push came to shove and we needed a lynch, the Karosis/HP would be my next choice. But for now:

vote Telas

we seem to be stuck in a spiral that involves Karosis and HP. It's a long day and I don't think we should fixate.

[Tennes]

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 October 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:25 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

Silanah, on 13 October 2011 - 05:20 PM, said:

So, if anyone is interested, here's my opinion.

HP was under very little pressure, yet he freaked the fuck out.
He went from being well spoken and usually insightful to HERP DERP WHAT ARE RULES AHHH YOU SUCK!

Karosis is handling the situation pretty well, but the facts don't add up.

I'm not particularly certain of anything, yet. But I think there is a possibility that they are the same faction. HP's style change seems to imply attention grabbing. Maybe we got someone important with Karosis? I'm not sure.

HP, you say you know what tile Karosis is on. Mind sharing that info?

Also: My internet went out last night, and it's still REALLY slow, sorry about the double post thing. I lost this post too, luckily I thought to ctrl-c as it was trying to send.

Actually no I don't want to share that info. I just know that an illumination happened in my location and the number of players in my location means that there has to be players outside of my faction. Karosis was one of those players.

yea...but that doest mean we arent in the same faction either?

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

I'm sorry you thought I freaked the fuck out but when people are accusing you of things that are untrue then I tend to get a bit emotional.

Also does anyone want to test out the whole finder reveal thing? Serc's find earlier in the game on Tiam turned out true when he was on the chopping block. Why wouldn't Omtose's find reveal work the same?

I dont know...maybe because serc CF'd as a freaken Finder, while omtose was an assassin.
im actually tired of beating this old donkey.

If im around tomorrow then some other shmuck who feels some pressure is just going to ride this same old donkey right through town.

just lynch me and be done with it...im tired of this same old spiel.
Usurper can get another recruit and the barbarians can have a good laugh at you lot,.

Are you now admitting to being a recruit?


Vote Karosis

I think he's just saying that its another night for the usurper to get another recruit.

[Karosis]

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 October 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:25 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

Silanah, on 13 October 2011 - 05:20 PM, said:

So, if anyone is interested, here's my opinion.

HP was under very little pressure, yet he freaked the fuck out.
He went from being well spoken and usually insightful to HERP DERP WHAT ARE RULES AHHH YOU SUCK!

Karosis is handling the situation pretty well, but the facts don't add up.

I'm not particularly certain of anything, yet. But I think there is a possibility that they are the same faction. HP's style change seems to imply attention grabbing. Maybe we got someone important with Karosis? I'm not sure.

HP, you say you know what tile Karosis is on. Mind sharing that info?

Also: My internet went out last night, and it's still REALLY slow, sorry about the double post thing. I lost this post too, luckily I thought to ctrl-c as it was trying to send.

Actually no I don't want to share that info. I just know that an illumination happened in my location and the number of players in my location means that there has to be players outside of my faction. Karosis was one of those players.

yea...but that doest mean we arent in the same faction either?

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

I'm sorry you thought I freaked the fuck out but when people are accusing you of things that are untrue then I tend to get a bit emotional.

Also does anyone want to test out the whole finder reveal thing? Serc's find earlier in the game on Tiam turned out true when he was on the chopping block. Why wouldn't Omtose's find reveal work the same?

I dont know...maybe because serc CF'd as a freaken Finder, while omtose was an assassin.
im actually tired of beating this old donkey.

If im around tomorrow then some other shmuck who feels some pressure is just going to ride this same old donkey right through town.

just lynch me and be done with it...im tired of this same old spiel.
Usurper can get another recruit and the barbarians can have a good laugh at you lot,.

Are you now admitting to being a recruit?


Vote Karosis

you gotto be kidding me...right?

all i am saying is that by lynching me you are not going to solve any of your problems as i am not the usurper....HENCE...he will be able to recruit tonight....fuck me.

please put me out of my misery....EVERYTHING i say just gets read as something else entirely...
what is wrong with you people?

[Silanah]

Sheltatha Lore, on 13 October 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:25 PM, said:

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

Silanah, on 13 October 2011 - 05:20 PM, said:

So, if anyone is interested, here's my opinion.

HP was under very little pressure, yet he freaked the fuck out.
He went from being well spoken and usually insightful to HERP DERP WHAT ARE RULES AHHH YOU SUCK!

Karosis is handling the situation pretty well, but the facts don't add up.

I'm not particularly certain of anything, yet. But I think there is a possibility that they are the same faction. HP's style change seems to imply attention grabbing. Maybe we got someone important with Karosis? I'm not sure.

HP, you say you know what tile Karosis is on. Mind sharing that info?

Also: My internet went out last night, and it's still REALLY slow, sorry about the double post thing. I lost this post too, luckily I thought to ctrl-c as it was trying to send.

Actually no I don't want to share that info. I just know that an illumination happened in my location and the number of players in my location means that there has to be players outside of my faction. Karosis was one of those players.

yea...but that doest mean we arent in the same faction either?

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

I'm sorry you thought I freaked the fuck out but when people are accusing you of things that are untrue then I tend to get a bit emotional.

Also does anyone want to test out the whole finder reveal thing? Serc's find earlier in the game on Tiam turned out true when he was on the chopping block. Why wouldn't Omtose's find reveal work the same?

I dont know...maybe because serc CF'd as a freaken Finder, while omtose was an assassin.
im actually tired of beating this old donkey.

If im around tomorrow then some other shmuck who feels some pressure is just going to ride this same old donkey right through town.

just lynch me and be done with it...im tired of this same old spiel.
Usurper can get another recruit and the barbarians can have a good laugh at you lot,.

Are you now admitting to being a recruit?


Vote Karosis

I'm reasonably certain he was saying that not lynching the Usurper gives more time to recruit.

[Hood's Path]

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

yea when i hear "assassin" the first thing that comes to mind is a finder...


but watever...its seems everyone is dead set on forcing this square peg into the round hole.

When I think assissin I think killer but I don't think finder is out of the question. But if we go with the assumption that he was a killer then If Omtose wanted you dead so badly why didn't he just kill you? It seems to me that he probably tried and couldn't do it. With Omtose coming up as an Assisian I think it is safe to assume that the breakdown for the factions is so

8 Yan
6 Lu
6 Xia
2 GongSun
2 Ma Choa
1 Sima Yi

Now for balance purposes I can see the Barbarians getting a number of BPs or being immune to night kills to force the rest of the group to lynch you to get rid of you. I seriously doubt with two members on your team that barbarians wouldn't be awarded some sort of additional protection with most of the rest of the players on the board that can find or kill, . Also from what we were told about Champions they have the standard kill night action. That doesn't sound like they would be able to do heals to protect their warlord. They must have other ways to protect themselves.

Also from the OP message on Omtose's death it sounded that he has been hunting you for a very long time. This also matches up with what Omtose was telling us about quietly hunting barbarians all game long.

[Silanah]

I see other people covered my above post.

Vote Galain

Come out, come out wherever you are

[Karosis]

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

yea when i hear "assassin" the first thing that comes to mind is a finder...


but watever...its seems everyone is dead set on forcing this square peg into the round hole.

When I think assissin I think killer but I don't think finder is out of the question. But if we go with the assumption that he was a killer then If Omtose wanted you dead so badly why didn't he just kill you? It seems to me that he probably tried and couldn't do it. With Omtose coming up as an Assisian I think it is safe to assume that the breakdown for the factions is so

8 Yan
6 Lu
6 Xia
2 GongSun
2 Ma Choa
1 Sima Yi

Now for balance purposes I can see the Barbarians getting a number of BPs or being immune to night kills to force the rest of the group to lynch you to get rid of you. I seriously doubt with two members on your team that barbarians wouldn't be awarded some sort of additional protection with most of the rest of the players on the board that can find or kill, . Also from what we were told about Champions they have the standard kill night action. That doesn't sound like they would be able to do heals to protect their warlord. They must have other ways to protect themselves.

Also from the OP message on Omtose's death it sounded that he has been hunting you for a very long time. This also matches up with what Omtose was telling us about quietly hunting barbarians all game long.

As i said before....he was using me to move eyes away from sombody else that was getting heat.

He knew we where looking for barbarians and latched onto my talk about barbarians and Emperors.

Even you where a target of his...so why arent you dead?...huh?


you only believe Omtose when it suits YOU.

[Silanah]

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

Karosis, on 13 October 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

yea when i hear "assassin" the first thing that comes to mind is a finder...


but watever...its seems everyone is dead set on forcing this square peg into the round hole.

When I think assissin I think killer but I don't think finder is out of the question. But if we go with the assumption that he was a killer then If Omtose wanted you dead so badly why didn't he just kill you? It seems to me that he probably tried and couldn't do it. With Omtose coming up as an Assisian I think it is safe to assume that the breakdown for the factions is so

8 Yan
6 Lu
6 Xia
2 GongSun
2 Ma Choa
1 Sima Yi

Now for balance purposes I can see the Barbarians getting a number of BPs or being immune to night kills to force the rest of the group to lynch you to get rid of you. I seriously doubt with two members on your team that barbarians wouldn't be awarded some sort of additional protection with most of the rest of the players on the board that can find or kill, . Also from what we were told about Champions they have the standard kill night action. That doesn't sound like they would be able to do heals to protect their warlord. They must have other ways to protect themselves.

Also from the OP message on Omtose's death it sounded that he has been hunting you for a very long time. This also matches up with what Omtose was telling us about quietly hunting barbarians all game long.

Andddd HP is back to rational. That's good.

I like the faction numbers, that seems reasonable. I really want to lynch a Barbarian. Just to see, you know? If there are 4 of them, odds are getting better as the game goes on.

[Sheltatha Lore]

OK, OK - I may be overly critical to Karosis, I'm misreading something he says. I'll back off, but when people say "lynch me, I give up" I can't help but want to oblige.

Anyhoo, Tennes - I have seen the issue of Telas come up, and slide away before

[Silanah]

Does anyone think that maybe barbarians can communicate offthread? From a lore perspective that doesn't really make sense, but that would be a benifit for a 2 person faction.

[Tennes]

Hood, on 13 October 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

With Omtose coming up as an Assisian I think it is safe to assume that the breakdown for the factions is so

8 Yan
6 Lu
6 Xia
2 GongSun
2 Ma Choa
1 Sima Yi

There you go again. It's not SAFE to ASSUME anything. When you start playing like that, you are ripe for destruction. it could be 6,6,6,3,3,1. It Could be 7,5,5,3,3,2. It could be .... we don't know. We do know that it's likely that Yan had an extra Alt because of Khell's CF. To assume anything else could be disasterous. Hell, we had a scene where the usurper was talking to his kids. He could possibly have a successor as if he was unlucky enough to be lynched the first day there would be someone to step up and take over. As for barbarians, I feel like a 3 person faction is more likely that a amped up 2 person faction. Thats just my opinion. the point is we don't know. Trying to base our votes soley on these types of assumptions will get us in trouble. I feel like you are trying to herd the sheep with assumptions and conjecture presented as fact.