[Anthras]

Korabas, on 28 June 2011 - 05:34 PM, said:

voting for someone else isnt deflection and one vote post isnt pushing hard by any stretch of the means. it was 3-1 vote wise, you make it sound like hp is dead cert for today. if my vote is needed i will change because i believe in always lynching. thats two people in my view not responding really to the case but rubbishing my vote of omtose by trying to accuse me of something neither of whom have actually voted.

I didn't "rubbish" your vote of Omtose. I didn't even mention it.

[Korbas]

in the interest of gaining a lynch i'll

remove vote

vote hp

I would have stuck with omtose but we do not have the numbers or the time to swing the lynch that way.

[Korbas]

we need 4 votes in under an hours time, something tells me we're cutting it fine.

[Korbas]

be back tomorrow

[Korabas]

Anthras, on 28 June 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

Korabas, on 28 June 2011 - 05:34 PM, said:

voting for someone else isnt deflection and one vote post isnt pushing hard by any stretch of the means. it was 3-1 vote wise, you make it sound like hp is dead cert for today. if my vote is needed i will change because i believe in always lynching. thats two people in my view not responding really to the case but rubbishing my vote of omtose by trying to accuse me of something neither of whom have actually voted.

I didn't "rubbish" your vote of Omtose. I didn't even mention it.

you didnt mention directly maybe but you claimed i was defending hp with my vote.

gotta head off. should be back before end of day, but its dependant on traffic.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 1 hour and 46 minutes remaining
17 Players still alive: Ampelas, Antrhas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Galain, Hood's Path, Korabas, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Sorrit, Tellan

9 votes to lynch, 9 votes to go to night.

5 Votes for Hood's Path ( Galain, Osseric, Omtose, Rashan, Korbas )
1 Vote for Omtose ( Korabas )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Antrhas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Hood's Path, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Sorrit, Tellan

[Anthras]

Korabas, on 28 June 2011 - 06:10 PM, said:

Anthras, on 28 June 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

I didn't "rubbish" your vote of Omtose. I didn't even mention it.

you didnt mention directly maybe but you claimed i was defending hp with my vote.

Fair enough - but it seemed like a diversionary attempt. Sort of.

Anyways, with Korbas switching his vote, and not much time left ...

Vote Hood's Path

I don't like voting on someone who's not around to defend theirself, but that's where this is headed. And, well, at least he's not being lynched for being a low poster.

[Anthras]

Korabas, on 28 June 2011 - 06:10 PM, said:

gotta head off. should be back before end of day, but its dependant on traffic.

You know, if you're going to say you're leaving, you might want to make sure if you lurk, you do so anonymously.

[Sorrit]

I said it seemed suspicious, I merely commented on the fact and more of the suspicion was stemming from pinky's reasoning which as previously mentioned seemed like a bit of OMGUS overreaction.

Anyway I agree we would be better to have a lynch today, I am leaning towards HP at the moment although it would have been better if he had gotten a chance to defend himself but I think his baseless statement about people giving out wrong information on the book was strange, we need to comment and speculate if we want to get anywhere so for now:

Vote Hoods Path


I will be around to change if something crops up I think.

[Mockra]

random lynch time, huh?



vote HP

let's se where it gets us.

[Barghast]

Btw, before I begin speculating (sorry I'm so late) on the game structure, I want to say that I too have not read these books so if I am a little off in describing characters or plot, let me know.

Omtose, on 27 June 2011 - 08:38 PM, said:

If the dominator is asleep then its likely he has conditions that will wake him up and make him uber powerful, like the Eldar got the avatar of khaine in the warhammer game (mafia 65?)

I think here that there are two superpowers in the game with an obscene amount of abilities. Of course one of them seems to be the dominator, who I would imagine can kill people while he is stuck in limbo and later in the game accelerate his chance of winning with time-locked abilities.

Mockra, on 27 June 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 27 June 2011 - 08:16 PM, said:

I suppose though if the dominator is seperate then there is the possibility he would be able to recruit as well but the lady in story would make more sense though.

I doubt the Dominator can do much. in hte books, the only reason the Lady could play her shenanigans, and the Rebellion existed at all was BECAUSE he was asleep. if he was awake, he'd pretty much take over everyhting w/o trying.

the White Rose is complicated. she can negate the Lady. that's it. this makes her both very powerful and very weak at once, b/c anyone else can easily kill her.



and she's with the BC, which cold be still employed by the Lady, but she's also a symbol for the Rebellion, which hates BC for being the Lady's mercs.



the amount of possible cominations this could translate into game mechanics is staggering.

I would hesitate in giving the Dominator the ability to recruit. If he is superpowerful, I would imagine he'd be manipulating everything himself, maybe having veto power over a few characters and their actions, but recruiting I would say belongs to both the Lady's and Rebel factions.

Also, doesn't the BC work for the rebellion and WR not the Lady at this point? Or are we just speculating that the BC could go either way?

Ampelas, on 27 June 2011 - 11:44 PM, said:

D, on 27 June 2011 - 11:28 PM, said:

The Circle of 18 are the Rebel, or at least that's what they are referred called by the BC, not an individual person. Also, because of the comet they'd be after the White Rose who is their prophecied savior/leader to help them defeat the Lady.

facepalm.

That makes that second paragraph much clearer. Light bulb clearly on now.

This leads me to highlight my second suspected superpower. Again we have a timing situation (the comet) which indicates to me the WR has lots of powers, or maybe just a key ability of suicide/killing the Lady, that is locked until later in the game (I think this is already suggested by others earlier, but I just want to put my current speculations in one basket).

Hood, on 28 June 2011 - 12:43 AM, said:

Re: the comments about Lady being a recruiter.

I think it is possible that the Lady has recruiting powers, but it is far more likely that the Dominator has them. I see the Dominator as close to a classic cult faction, possibly starting with Soulcatcher on his side. The Dominator brought half the taken onto his side while he was still asleep, along with being a force behind the Circle of Eighteen. There are quite a few ways you could shake down things as far as factions go, due to how often people switch sides. I wouldn't be surprised to see some funky recruiting rules either.

In a way, I wonder if this game is going to be a crazy ass recruiting war between the Rebels and the Lady factions with a pool of RIs on both sides available for the grabbing (which will make it hell for anyone unlucky enough to be RI). Then on the sides, we have the two superpowers waiting to change the game and perhaps even manipulating others to knock of the threats to their VC. In this scenario, I think that a rogue BC would also be an interesting twist, especially if it was timed to switch sides and VCs (e.g. the comet arrives an the BC move from supporting the rebellion to supporting the Lady).

Korbas, on 28 June 2011 - 07:49 AM, said:

Mockra, on 27 June 2011 - 10:03 PM, said:

problem with 2x8+1 is that canonically, the Rebellion was much, much weaker, than the Lady

also there is a problem with recruitment. i think the dominator will not play or come into consideration until endgame, i think we would be looking at 3 factions, one small that can recruit, and the dominator as a stand alone faction with his own win condition. PS keeps mentioning 16 players alive, but the dominator wouldn't count as being "alive" or able to be lynched not until he wakes up.

I disagree. I think the Dominator is killable early in the game, albeit, probably with a few BPs, but I would hazard he is one of the main targets for Rebellion, Lady, and BC factions, so either he has a lot of manipulating ability or a lot of BPs, or I guess both (I was thinking about the GAP mafia #74 and Liz's role as head of UMC, aka the Dragon).

Tellan, on 28 June 2011 - 09:01 AM, said:

Sorry about being late to the party (or at least to the interesting part).

In regards to distribution there seems logical to have the dominator - as previously mentioned - a recruiter of sorts. That's what he does in the books no? With that there can be three base factions: The Lady and her BC vs the Rebels with the Dominator as the wild card. I guess the Lady could have other of the Taken with her, but that number would certainly be fairly small as it seems likely that the rebel faction is the largest.

I don't know what to make of HP's accusations towards Eloth. Tongue in cheek is my guess, but it remains to be seen.

If the rebel faction is the largest, I would imagine their pool of abilities would either be diluted or weaksauce. I am expecting the Lady and her team to be the movers and shakers and if my theory about BC is correct, the main talent for the Rebels would be the BC early and WR late.

[Galain]

HP should get a chance to speak up as well, but if he is gone, that won't happen. No one wants to defend him and there's no better chance for a lynch today. I doubt this one will even happen since we're about out of time.

If anyone can make a better case, I'll listen to it.

[Barghast]

Well, I was thinking of talking about who to lynch at more length (cutting it close and making a confidence vote) but looks like we just need one more vote:

Vote HP

[Barghast]

And early on the people I have my eye on, other than HP, include some of the feisty ones such as Korbas, aka Pinky, (who keeps switching his vote all over the place which strikes me as odd), Omtose (as some said earlier, he does seem to have a lot of connections to Korbas and HP), and Korabas (who also seems to connect a lot with Pinky, HP and Omtose. I am also afraid he will use the name mixup to lay low later on and don't want him disappearing).

Anthras, on 28 June 2011 - 04:55 AM, said:

Hood, on 28 June 2011 - 12:43 AM, said:

Re: the comments about Lady being a recruiter.

I think it is possible that the Lady has recruiting powers, but it is far more likely that the Dominator has them.

Hell, if I were writing up this game, I'd make it both, just to make things more difficult.

Their character descriptions would seem to imply that possibility ...

I also thing Anthras knows a lot to start with, but I think figuring out who is in the know is a good conversation for day 2.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 1 hour and 7 minutes remaining
17 Players still alive: Ampelas, Antrhas, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Galain, Hood's Path, Korabas, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Sorrit, Tellan

9 votes to lynch, 9 votes to go to night.

9 Votes for Hood's Path ( Galain, Osseric, Omtose, Rashan, Korbas, Antrhas, Sorrit, Mockra, Barghast )
1 Vote for Omtose ( Korabas )

Players not voted: Ampelas, D'riss, Eloth, Hood's Path, Liosan, Ruse, Tellan

On command of the Lady we are trying to find the Limper and join forces with him. At one point we nearly have him. WE get to a place were the Limper and the Rebel clashed recently.
One point attracts my attentioen. The ground is burned in a perfect circle and in this circle there were some badly burned corpses.
"How?" I ask Goblin who is standing next to me.
But it is Raven who answers. "The Limper."


Hood's Path is dead.

[Ampelas]

Sorry for my disapearing act, I got called away.

It looks like my readup on HP is a mute point now other to see what clues we get from his CF. I didn't see anything overly concerning with his posts other than him calling out unknown people for providing false info regarding the books. As I haven't read them either I have no idea who he was talking about.

[Ampelas]

Looks like I missed the end of day scene. What does that tell us? Who died? Which faction were they on? How does this help us? Man Lizra sure wants to mind bang us or what?

[Omtose]

i havent read the books, so can someone please tell me if that scene meant anything?

can PS tell us if theres clues in the scenes?

[Anthras]

Ampelas, on 28 June 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

Looks like I missed the end of day scene. What does that tell us? Who died? Which faction were they on? How does this help us? Man Lizra sure wants to mind bang us or what?

I still haven't decided if the lack of a CF was on purpose or not.

[Ampelas]

I take it as either the Limper is dead or a Rebel is dead or the scene is a bunch of rubbish and PS is just leading us around by the nose.