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Posted 29 June 2011 - 03:15 PM

 dktorode, on 29 June 2011 - 02:37 PM, said:

 Tapper, on 29 June 2011 - 01:34 PM, said:



Moreover, those who can kill are not waiting for info to become available either. Instead, they succumb to the tendency to use a kill uninformed just because they consider collateral irrelevant (or think they can make up for it by killing moar!) and think there is no cost involved in using the kill, never once assuming factions are uneven or abilities can be unique.




Those who can kill?...like my role a suicide vig... Collateral would be VERY relevant in my case :p

With no way of me ever determining who is who, it was always going to be a shot in the dark....meh

Yes. But with such roles, it is always a wait-and-see-is-it-worth-it aspect - killing yourself to kill a big guy is worth it, but not to kill regular random person X. Regular killers who just go around killing with no second thought as to what the set-up may provide in back-up for them are essentially masturbating by revelling in their big tool instead of looking for someone who can ehm, do a nice duo with 'em ;)

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 Tapper, on 29 June 2011 - 01:34 PM, said:

The way I saw the set-up, well, there is a CF dude who can make himself too important to die but through that also makes himself a prime recruit target by his ability, which he is allowed to reveal.


ok...didn't know there was guy with the CF's...but he could eat it early... or maybe he doesnt even reveal anything.
If he doesnt, making the rest of us and the people in the other factions flounder... would kinda suck for everyone else..

My point wasn't that there was no CF....i dont mind no cf....but if i also have absolutely nothing to go by in my role PM..then what am i supposed to do?... i wasnt even 100% sure who's team i was on....*shrugg*

the sole danger here was him getting lynched day 1/dying night 1 before he had chance to reveal. That ability allows so much versatility for fudging and mind-fucking that the strong point *is* revealing it. It could happen, sure, and that would really have sucked :)

 dktorode, on 29 June 2011 - 02:45 PM, said:

 Tapper, on 29 June 2011 - 01:39 PM, said:

Anyway, we'll get to the end-game faster than people expected during sign-up, I guess :p


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Posted 29 June 2011 - 05:26 PM

Did a tiny intervention, because at this rate, they'll start arguing that scenes contain clues and the game progresses to end exactly like the book, probably making them think that the Dominator is going to be launched out of nowhere into the game once only 4 players are left :s
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 06:47 PM

 Tapper, on 29 June 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

Perhaps just to fuck with your minds, perhaps to make matters worse, perhaps to put in a word of caution, perhaps even to give a tiny, tiny tip: you do know that 'book' can also refer to a physical entity of pages surrounded by a cover, and that 'omnibus' is a kind of representation of such a thing, right? Cook is hard to find in Europe in anything other than collected volumes.



I don't have a collected volume and only read the first book. So the design is solely based on what I got out of the first book. Just saying. ;)
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Posted 29 June 2011 - 07:23 PM

 Lizra, on 29 June 2011 - 06:47 PM, said:

 Tapper, on 29 June 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

Perhaps just to fuck with your minds, perhaps to make matters worse, perhaps to put in a word of caution, perhaps even to give a tiny, tiny tip: you do know that 'book' can also refer to a physical entity of pages surrounded by a cover, and that 'omnibus' is a kind of representation of such a thing, right? Cook is hard to find in Europe in anything other than collected volumes.



I don't have a collected volume and only read the first book. So the design is solely based on what I got out of the first book. Just saying. ;)

Oops :) Oh well :p

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 08:30 PM

 Tellan, on 29 June 2011 - 08:25 PM, said:

Ah, here we are. Korbas followed by Eloth. Not much you might say but then in my experience players are generally careful in their choice of words. And Cagey used twice like that just stood out when I read it originally.

 Korbas, on 28 June 2011 - 01:53 PM, said:

everyone is being rather cagey, they don't want to lynch wrong and thinking that the odds favour cult at the moment they are holding back. it would have to be an educated guess at this stage and people may not be up for that. who do you think?



 Eloth, on 28 June 2011 - 02:01 PM, said:

I dunno...im at a loss really what to do.
People are pretty cagey, plus there are a few people who have to boosted up their post count with all the roleplay banter early on.
Its a bit deceiving


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 06:46 AM

Rashan, on 30 June 2011 - 05:15 AM, said:

Night 2 - Find Mockra



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Posted 30 June 2011 - 06:51 AM

Omtose, on 29 June 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:

Provisional ruse, unless lynched, in which case go for amp

anyone prepared to do that much leg work is seriously unhinged....or possibly tattersail, i remember him doing something similar once



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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:03 AM

humh.. so all my musings on Korbas (I knew he was Croaker by the end so hah!) and my decision to kill Osseric fell out I spose. Ah well, at least I didn't make a complete fool of myself.

Still, it's always annoying to be lynched for something you have no control over, in my case the lack of activity late day 1 to late day 2.


I have to mirror dkt's misgivings about the game (though I had fun the little I got to play). There needs to be some sort of information to base a foundation of speculation on. If only the allegiance of one player, a limited cf or something. Without it you can look at patters as much as you want without getting anything of value out of it.

Now, Eloth's status was enough for me technically, but most didn't even get that.

In addition, I was wavering between killing Eloth and Korbas by the end there. The reason I decided to go for Eloth was his reaction to the witch accusations but it could easily have gone the other way, in which case there would have been no cf. Alternatively, Korbas could've decided to keep the info to himself.
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:17 AM

@ Lizra: Mockra got a whole lot of action last night (2x recruit + find + kill), I had him found and CFed as being with the Lady.
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:43 AM

 Tapper, on 30 June 2011 - 07:17 AM, said:

@ Lizra: Mockra got a whole lot of action last night (2x recruit + find + kill), I had him found and CFed as being with the Lady.


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:08 AM

Korbas, on 30 June 2011 - 07:48 AM, said:

For Tellan.

I did not have a little hint that you where part of my faction. I thought we needed a lynch everyday and I am sorry I didn't get to vote off Anthras. Other than that i'll have a look at what you said and where see what your thoughts were. good game anyway.



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it's surprising how people do not believe the cf's even if i give them. at this stage i don't see a way of this benefitting me. i could mention that i cannot be recruited and put myself on a faction i think is strongest but i think it best to be obscure at the moment


Ehm, wallbash? Especially Soulcatcher herself being dead is quite some big news considering someone was named as being part of her faction... Not sharing after coming forward with the info freely to begin with is going to cost him.

Oh well, people will press him, I think.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:18 AM

Well, I thought I was being too obvious in telling Korbas we were friends. I guess next time I should just say on thread that we're in the same faction. Fuck, you know that's exactly what I should've done.
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:26 AM

 Morgoth, on 30 June 2011 - 08:18 AM, said:

Well, I thought I was being too obvious in telling Korbas we were friends. I guess next time I should just say on thread that we're in the same faction. Fuck, you know that's exactly what I should've done.

Probably would have brought the house down on you, though, to test his alignment.
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:29 AM

 Tapper, on 30 June 2011 - 08:26 AM, said:

 Morgoth, on 30 June 2011 - 08:18 AM, said:

Well, I thought I was being too obvious in telling Korbas we were friends. I guess next time I should just say on thread that we're in the same faction. Fuck, you know that's exactly what I should've done.

Probably would have brought the house down on you, though, to test his alignment.


Yeah. There really was a no win situation for me at that point. It's a shame the two people who knew my identity didn't try to help.
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 12:17 PM

Omtose, on 30 June 2011 - 11:05 AM, said:

so i just killed a member of my own team? wonderful

provisional kill on D'riss, If lynched Amp


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 01:17 PM

Anthras, on 30 June 2011 - 01:12 PM, said:

Spoiler entry:

Fuck, sorry Ment. I completely misread things. Then again, maybe Korbas is lying, or you were a recruit - something I have no interest in bringing up in thread. Also, Barghast still makes me think "Dominator," but going after him just makes me look like I'm symping and defending Korbas, rather than because I have legitimate reasons. And if I live through the day, I just don't think trying to Kill him would work, because if he's the Dominator, he'll probably have a BP or two.


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 01:46 PM

Osseric, on 30 June 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:

So...it seems like I was right - I knew Morgy but he wasn't actually on my side. Does that mean someone knows me, who isn't on my team. :p ;) :)

Provisional

Recruit Galain


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 01:47 PM

Liosan, on 30 June 2011 - 01:27 PM, said:

Well, I guessed it correctly that Mockra was a chick. Then she died.

Lets try to enchant Gaialn


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 02:20 PM

Are they really having a bitch fight on thread about them misunderstanding Raker's CF? He's said to be rebel and yet on thread, they name him as the Lady's... confusing him with Ment I guess?

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:44 PM

SUCCESS!!

now, let's see if Shin can pul this off.

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