[Dinivan]

Lizra, on 06 July 2011 - 06:25 PM, said:

Croaker has changed fraction and is now on the Ladys fraction and the White Rose and Raven have changed fractions and are now rebels.
So its 3 Lady (Osseric, Anthras and Korbas) against 3 Rebel (Rashan, D'riss and Ampelas)

I see, thanks. Does Raven still have his day kill? He needs to use it now, or it'll look bad for the Rebels...

[Lizradusa]

No he has already used it.

[Dinivan]

I did remember one day kill, but thought it was by Ruse, oh well

Bad then, for the Rebels. Night belongs to the Lady, with recruit and kill, and in a 3 vs 3 stand-off they can't vote the lady off.

This post has been edited by Dinivan: 06 July 2011 - 06:59 PM

[Lizradusa]

Iirc he killed Omtose.

Yes numbers are in favor of the Lady. Rashan is one day to late, but D'rek did find the Limper only today, so if she had revealed sooner, she would have been Nk'd.

[Dinivan]

yep, Omtose was daykilled.

she might have been NK'd this night, but the Dominator wouldn't have been lynched, and there'd still be 3 rebels now (Galain not dying) ... however there is no knowing how things turned out. And being a pathetic player myself, I shouldn't say a reveal was too late, or too early or anything

This post has been edited by Dinivan: 06 July 2011 - 07:09 PM

[Lizradusa]

Of course you can't really say something is to early or to late. But if that knowledge would have been available yesterday instead of having a no lynch... but that would be a pointless discussion.

[Dinivan]

True enough. And here I have already forgotten that there was a lynchless day. I thought the last day was the one that saw the Dominator die.

[Path-Shaper]

I'm off to bed. It would be awesome, if you could take over again, ansible.

Liz

[Vengeance]

Ansible next time you update the voting list. Just to fuck with Rashan, sign it D'rek.

Then the next one you sign as Dibs then the next one sign as Peanutbutta.


Of course if it was me I would edit her last post to read how much she appreciated the dead players helping to Mod the game, and that everything that the mods do is awesome and fantastic.

[Mockra]

Dinivan, on 06 July 2011 - 06:57 PM, said:

I did remember one day kill, but thought it was by Ruse, oh well

Bad then, for the Rebels. Night belongs to the Lady, with recruit and kill, and in a 3 vs 3 stand-off they can't vote the lady off.

hell yeah,

GO TEAM LADY!!!!!

[Mockra]

hmm, seems the game's coming along well, just hope Kurt doesn't do anyhting stupid

[Path-Shaper]

Anthras, on 06 July 2011 - 11:55 PM, said:

Just to make sure:

Kill D'riss

If D'riss gets lynched by some odd chance:

Kill Rashan

Got it.

[Path-Shaper]

Rashan, on 06 July 2011 - 10:01 PM, said:

Oh, and if I live through the day,

Find Anthras (backup: Korbas)

Noted.

[Path-Shaper]

Korbas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:33 PM, said:

hopefully you'll accept votes by my phone if i cannot bold them?

Maybe.

Try using [ b ] around your vote [ /b ]. Without the spaces, though.

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 02:02 PM, said:

So is the fake reveal off the table? It sounds like I have a lot of catching up to do.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:

It's still a desperate gamble. But, we aren't desperate. Yet.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 02:45 PM, said:

I agree. We've narrowed it down to 3 players. We have a 33.333333% chance of picking the right player. If only we had Anthras hammer Rashan. Then I'm sure we would have had this in the bag. Get Korbas to lynch with us on either Osseric or Anthras and hopefully by then the Lady would be dead and no more night kills and then you and I would run the table. Now it's looking very dicey. We absolutely need Korbas with you or me to vote out the others. I would be a good choice for a night kill as Korbas pointed out I would like to vote out the Lady. So then it would be you and Korbas trying to take out the Lady between the other two. Not Looking so good.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 02:48 PM, said:

Let it play out some. Surprises always happen in Mafia. Hopefully ours are good ones.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 02:57 PM, said:

Osseric is drawing my eye more and more. Let's see if we can get him lynched. Without a retarded case, but just as we have been doing. Subtle something wrongishness.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

Okay. I think Anthras or Osseric at this point is a good bet. Let's go paint us some rebels targets

D, on 06 July 2011 - 06:30 PM, said:

You still a go for Osseric? Depending, this seems one of the better shots we'll have at voting him off.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 06:43 PM, said:

I am but I'm waiting to see what Anthras does. I'm also a bit leery of Rashan's reveal. I read back to see what he was talking about with his subtle hints and either I just didn't read far enough back or he is full of shit. One of his posts mentioning Darling but I wasn't sure if it was in reverence to Korbas. If that is so then I think Rashan is full of it.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 06:45 PM, said:

Me too, waiting to see what he says. Could be end-game play in either direction. The "hubris" and 'Rebel Faction" statement didn't sound right at all, but coming out like that would need a strong statement. Don't think that's the one I'd go with. Still.... I'm willing if the price is right.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 08:18 PM, said:

If Rashan is telling the truth then we made a huge mistake not taking out Korbas when we had the chance. I just don't see how Rashan's reveal if true is going to help us win. I almost think we need to throw him under the bus and hope that Anthras is night killed. and then vote Osseric off tomorrow (Yeah right. Like that is going to happen).

How I see it going down right now is that we will either have a draw for a lynch, the three Lady/Soulcatcher members all vote for night or we throw Rashan under the bus to save our asses. I or Rashan will get night killed if we didn't lynch Rashan already and then one of us left will be lynched tomorrow. If that isn't game over then the last one gets night killed the next night. I think that my vote for Rashan will be seen as distancing if I do vote for Rashan to be lynched but I still would like to see if Anthras does jump on the Osseric Lynch.

It looks pretty gloomy for a victory in our court.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

He said Rebel have 3 didn't he? Not Lady? Plus, I'm not particularly convinced of anything he said as of right now. So, chin up. We'll see what happens.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

But I think the Lady and Soulcatcher factions have similar victory conditions. Right?

D, on 06 July 2011 - 09:03 PM, said:

Probably. Which means we'll have to swing some shenanigans of some sort IF Rashan is right with his assessment. End Game is time to buckle up, strap-in, and do whatever we have to do. For now I see we wait for Rashan to clarifyb 'cause those answers are doing jackall for me right now. it could be a desperate gambit by another faction to out us. So let's play it cool. Plenty of time still, I think.

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 06 July 2011 - 09:22 PM, said:

Thoughts after the clarification? Do we go for it or not? Let's discuss before either of us votes or anything.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:21 PM, said:

With his comment about his followers I'm inclined to off Rashan. That can't have been on purpose.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 10:23 PM, said:

Unless he's making a gambit on outing factions. Calling someone a faction lead and arguing about your followers at the same time, when we KNOW he can't be both is a signal something is off.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:23 PM, said:

He also didn't answer my question about who else he did a find on and what were the results.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:

And his clarification with me was weak as shit as well so he went sarcasm overload to try to hide it.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:

D, on 06 July 2011 - 10:23 PM, said:

Unless he's making a gambit on outing factions. Calling someone a faction lead and arguing about your followers at the same time, when we KNOW he can't be both is a signal something is off.

Exactly

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:25 PM, said:

So I'm inclined to Vote Rashan and leave Osseric for Tomorrow if there is a tomorrow.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 10:25 PM, said:

You don't do that if you are a leader. He could be the killer or remaining Dominator faction player trying to get us and Lady at each other's throats and see where the field lies.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 10:27 PM, said:

Don't think we should vote Rashan. REALLY don't think we should vote Rashan. You recall our desperate gamble plan? This is his, I think. Meaning, we don't play into it by voting him.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:28 PM, said:

So what? Vote Osseric? I have this thing for taking out people that I think are lying.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

I actually think it might be a distraction from Anthras. If so it was very well done.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:29 PM, said:

I agree with the fact that Rashan is trying to fish for who is on who's side.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

You mentioned a migraine. I think I might be getting one with all the WIFOM going on right now.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 10:31 PM, said:

Yeah. This isn't helping mine at all.

D, on 06 July 2011 - 10:38 PM, said:

Christ I'm so confused. I'm going to eat dinner. I'll be back in about 15.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:39 PM, said:

I actually didn't think that the Dominator faction might still have a player out there. I get the feeling though that Rashan is either a rebel and just did a bad play with his reveal or is part of the Lady's faction to try and lure out the remaining rebels so they know who to night kill.

I'm beginning to feel less like he is a rebel though and more likely that he is making a play for info. The whole followers comment after calling Osseric the Lady and we know that you are the leader of the rebels screams that something isn't right. So why would he out Osseric as the Lady if he is making a play to out the rebels? Unless he knows that either Osseric is not on his tribe or he knows the true numbers of each faction?

D, on 06 July 2011 - 10:44 PM, said:

Maybe he's trying to protect me if all goes bad? He'd get the NK not me?

Still, doing that when you don't think you can swing the lynch. What's to gain?

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:53 PM, said:

That is why I think it is either an epic bad play or a very calculated one. Rashan has been playing too quiet all game so that is why I think that he is trying to out the remaining rebels. That is why I'm okay with putting a vote on him. But I've been wrong about both Barghast and Galain so I'm probably wrong about Rashan and we should go after Anthras or Osseric.

Ampelas, on 06 July 2011 - 11:54 PM, said:

Shit! Damn! Frackle! Okay. Rashan has put the nail in the coffin for me. He's rebel. He waited a day too long but he is definately rebel. Way to put the game on the line with nothing to back it up with dude. If Rashan thought we didn't have the numbers before and didn't do a reveal then why do it now when we definately don't have the numbers.

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 07 July 2011 - 01:29 AM, said:

Sorry. I'm about to crash. Why do you think he's suddenly Rebel?

I say it's worth the chance to try to lynch anyways. Odds aren't going to get better.

D, on 07 July 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

I"m going to vote Osseric as soon as you get back to me and agree.

Ampelas, on 07 July 2011 - 02:47 AM, said:

Sure. We can vote Osseric. I still think that we are setting ourselves up for a loss but we have to try something.

D, on 07 July 2011 - 02:51 AM, said:

Better to go out with a bang than a whimper. At least we'll go down fighting. Maybe Rashan got recruited, but oh well. This has been a long ass game.

[Path-Shaper]

Some (out of order) spoilers:

Korbas, on 06 July 2011 - 10:28 PM, said:

I haven't got a clue whats going on. The lady's faction must want rebels and dominator killed/lynched or whatever. Rashan outs himself as a rebel and no one is voting for him... I had rashan and anthras pegged together, yet anthras turns out to be the limper, i don't know who recruited me, yet i believe anthras to be on my team but he skulked away when i mentioned the limper on thread. Now you got Osseric coming on and saying he won't vote Rashan. This baffles me. Are they just messing with my head? I am assuming that Anthras is above me in the chain in the ladies faction and although he won't know me, he may know who is above him. Confusing to say the least.

--

Rashan, on 06 July 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

Well, its ballsy time. Anthras is the big question mark now. I still think he's BC, but it's hard to guess what faction he might be since Korbas sounds so Dominator and Amp might only be Rebel because he is Raven.

Well, if we get a 3-3 split hopefully Amp or D'riss can do something useful at night.

Rashan, on 06 July 2011 - 09:49 PM, said:

Please, please, pleeeeaaaaassseeee D'riss realize that me claiming leader means I know you're the White Rose and am trying to draw the enemy's ire! I have a BP, don't do anything foolish!

--

Anthras, on 06 July 2011 - 06:10 AM, said:

Provisional Night Action:

Kill D'riss

Because something about his posts after the most recent Night just pretty much say "not on my team."

It's interesting that he suddenly started talking about Liosan being a possible FM, too.

Anthras, on 06 July 2011 - 11:55 PM, said:

So I have this strange notion that Korbas has been recruited by the Lady, Ampelas was there to begin with ... and with Osseric as the Lady, that gives us four.

We should be able to lynch Rashan today (assuming Osseric or I don't overplay it and get lynched) and I'll kill D'riss tonight. Even if one of them turns out to be on my team, I see no reason to worry too much about it, we'll still likely have numbers, and can lynch Ampelas if he turns out to be an alt-jumping Dominator. Though D'riss is my first candidate for that.

[Path-Shaper]

Vengeance, on 06 July 2011 - 10:02 PM, said:

Ansible next time you update the voting list. Just to fuck with Rashan, sign it D'rek.

Then the next one you sign as Dibs then the next one sign as Peanutbutta.


Of course if it was me I would edit her last post to read how much she appreciated the dead players helping to Mod the game, and that everything that the mods do is awesome and fantastic.

I so, so wanted to do this....or threaten a modkill. But I didn't want any possibility of upsetting the game. The irony is that D'rek is right, it would probably have been best if I hadn't signed my P-S posts, but it's her mistake to bring that up on thread. In the end I decided to try to make as few waves as possible...

Provisionals and actions are posted above; Osseric hasn't submitted an action as far as I know. And now, I'm out.

-ansible

[Path-Shaper]

Osseric, on 07 July 2011 - 05:53 AM, said:

Recruit D'riss

although I doubt it would come to that

noted

Liz