[Fener]

Eloth, on 15 June 2011 - 02:36 PM, said:

Fener, on 15 June 2011 - 02:26 PM, said:

Eloth, on 15 June 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

D, on 15 June 2011 - 01:43 PM, said:

DId you guys know that Serc is alive and has like 5 posts total?

:shhhhhh: dont mention low posters - fener might start pissing up against your leg :shhhhhh:

dont get me started.



anyways...we couldnt possibly pull off the same type of "herding collaboration" like we did yesterday again today, it would be too obviousl

i thought that was a joke by someone... now i am worried.

nope.. there are a few peeps who think we did it on purpose

[D'riss]

Fener, on 15 June 2011 - 02:42 PM, said:

Eloth, on 15 June 2011 - 02:36 PM, said:

Fener, on 15 June 2011 - 02:26 PM, said:

Eloth, on 15 June 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

D, on 15 June 2011 - 01:43 PM, said:

DId you guys know that Serc is alive and has like 5 posts total?

:shhhhhh: dont mention low posters - fener might start pissing up against your leg :shhhhhh:

dont get me started.



anyways...we couldnt possibly pull off the same type of "herding collaboration" like we did yesterday again today, it would be too obviousl

i thought that was a joke by someone... now i am worried.

nope.. there are a few peeps who think we did it on purpose

Fear the mighty Fenoth?

[Eloth]

D, on 15 June 2011 - 02:41 PM, said:

Eloth, on 15 June 2011 - 02:35 PM, said:

If you think my discussion gave you a clue as to my faction then feel free to make a case based on it if you think i am in a rival faction to yourself. I myself am not worried about discussing things on thread. Tiam ignored two teams in such a way that it was clear he had no idea about anything to do with them (clearly didnt read the op) and was therefore either lying or is genuinely not in them. By calling them out on it straight away and avoiding all discussion its therefore just as likely barghast is umc or umpc which is equally bad play imo.

A lot of feners posts where because of the arguing yesterday.

Well you were quite vague about what you thought the VC's were, and Anomandaris was a little more definitive. I mantain that discussing VC's this early in the game is foolish and I will not play. You have just called out Barghast as UMC or UMCP because he knew that Tiam was incorrect or just plain ignored two teams. Knowing that Barghast is right would mean that you are also on one of the said teams. WIFOM anyone?

I know they were, but he was participating. The game doesn't begin until everyone is at least participating, which can be frustrating with extremely low posters while we are halfway through day two. I agree with Fener that I would rather lynch someone because of what they said on thread, but what do we do when people wont participate? Give them a free ride? That leads to low-posters cruising to victory because people forget all about them.

And i removed my vote!!!

[Eloth]

we really need a WIFOM emoticon.

[D'riss]

Going to drop a vote on Serc, to see if we can find some participation.

Vote Serc

[Kalse]

Fener, on 15 June 2011 - 02:42 PM, said:

nope.. there are a few peeps who think we did it on purpose

I wouldn't say that I really think you and Eloth are collaborating as members of the same team - I doubt you're both cultists, or the cult would start larger than is reasonable - but you both changed your votes to the same person in short order for weak or non-existent reasons. After arguing for pages with each other. And the person you changed them to was not a cultist.

[Fener]

Kalse, on 15 June 2011 - 02:59 PM, said:

Fener, on 15 June 2011 - 02:42 PM, said:

nope.. there are a few peeps who think we did it on purpose

I wouldn't say that I really think you and Eloth are collaborating as members of the same team - I doubt you're both cultists, or the cult would start larger than is reasonable - but you both changed your votes to the same person in short order for weak or non-existent reasons. After arguing for pages with each other. And the person you changed them to was not a cultist.

i dont see what your point is tho... allot of people voted for merrid for next to no reason.
actually our reasons where arguably better then most.

I did it to show that i am not "symping" merrid.
And Eloth did it becuase i could have been symping Merrid

most people just went with him because he was the only viable lynch.

Weather Merrid was cult or not is irrelevant and im not sure why you bring it up?

[Serc]

Reading to catch up now...

[D'riss]

Serc, on 15 June 2011 - 03:07 PM, said:

Reading to catch up now...

I eagerly await your next post.

[Anomandaris]

Good timing there, Serc/D'riss

[D'riss]

Anomandaris, on 15 June 2011 - 03:23 PM, said:

Good timing there, Serc/D'riss

I thought it was interesting as well. It could be a coincidence, but...

[Serc]

Christ that was a lot to read. Will have to go through it all again in the morning I think.
The only thing I picked up on was this:

D, on 15 June 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

I know what the rules said, and I think I have wrapped my head around the scene. I'm still not going to speculate on winning conditions for any faction, especially since I don't know any but the ones I was given. Either my speculation would be way off, and those people would know I am not on their team, or it is way too correct and they vote me off for being dumb. Unless it gets down to very close to WCS cult win time, there is absolutely no reason to talk about winning conditions, which is a huge 'why' at Tiam.

And Fener was pissy about it yesterday, but it got people talking. As of yet, I don't see much at all that Serc has said... Fener is at around 50 posts. Should he have five times the posts of someone else, on the second day of the game, without a lot of spam? I don't think so.

Not really sure about how relevant this is, but

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4.1 - Winning Conditions
The game ends once one faction has reached its winning conditions, which the mods have stated

Apparently you have a couple of winning conditions. Just wondering how many winning conditions each faction has.
Just putting it in the 'File away' drawer anyway.

[Anomandaris]

D, on 15 June 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 15 June 2011 - 03:23 PM, said:

Good timing there, Serc/D'riss

I thought it was interesting as well. It could be a coincidence, but...

He will say that it is, but it never is

[Serc]

D, on 15 June 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 15 June 2011 - 03:23 PM, said:

Good timing there, Serc/D'riss

I thought it was interesting as well. It could be a coincidence, but...

You would have said that anyway, since you posted something about me not posting earlier.

It's just been an incredibly long day.

[Karatallid]

Serc, on 15 June 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

Christ that was a lot to read. Will have to go through it all again in the morning I think.
The only thing I picked up on was this:

D, on 15 June 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

I know what the rules said, and I think I have wrapped my head around the scene. I'm still not going to speculate on winning conditions for any faction, especially since I don't know any but the ones I was given. Either my speculation would be way off, and those people would know I am not on their team, or it is way too correct and they vote me off for being dumb. Unless it gets down to very close to WCS cult win time, there is absolutely no reason to talk about winning conditions, which is a huge 'why' at Tiam.

And Fener was pissy about it yesterday, but it got people talking. As of yet, I don't see much at all that Serc has said... Fener is at around 50 posts. Should he have five times the posts of someone else, on the second day of the game, without a lot of spam? I don't think so.

Not really sure about how relevant this is, but

Quote

4.1 - Winning Conditions
The game ends once one faction has reached its winning conditions, which the mods have stated

Apparently you have a couple of winning conditions. Just wondering how many winning conditions each faction has.
Just putting it in the 'File away' drawer anyway.

And. . .
Somehow you seem to be missing a conclusion you get from the post you point out, which makes it kind of futile to quote them.

[Anomandaris]

Rule 4.1 doesn't apply if the game OP/setup page overrides it.

[Serc]

Karatallid, on 15 June 2011 - 03:41 PM, said:

Serc, on 15 June 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

Christ that was a lot to read. Will have to go through it all again in the morning I think.
The only thing I picked up on was this:

D, on 15 June 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

I know what the rules said, and I think I have wrapped my head around the scene. I'm still not going to speculate on winning conditions for any faction, especially since I don't know any but the ones I was given. Either my speculation would be way off, and those people would know I am not on their team, or it is way too correct and they vote me off for being dumb. Unless it gets down to very close to WCS cult win time, there is absolutely no reason to talk about winning conditions, which is a huge 'why' at Tiam.

And Fener was pissy about it yesterday, but it got people talking. As of yet, I don't see much at all that Serc has said... Fener is at around 50 posts. Should he have five times the posts of someone else, on the second day of the game, without a lot of spam? I don't think so.

Not really sure about how relevant this is, but

Quote

4.1 - Winning Conditions
The game ends once one faction has reached its winning conditions, which the mods have stated

Apparently you have a couple of winning conditions. Just wondering how many winning conditions each faction has.
Just putting it in the 'File away' drawer anyway.

And. . .
Somehow you seem to be missing a conclusion you get from the post you point out, which makes it kind of futile to quote them.

It's just something I noticed in relation to something Anomandaris said actually:

Quote

Suggesting a discussion to tease out winning conditions is going to make everyone clam up about them. You would have had better luck if you'd just tried to start such a conversation without prefacing it

With four factions and many of them on seeming friendly terms (ie the UMPC work for the UMC, the Trumpets are sent by the UMPC, the UMC trade resources with the Amnion), I wonder if this isn't a Locke Lamora-style faction circle, with each faction trying to eliminate the one ahead of it. I guess the order would go something like UMPC >> Amnion >> Trumpets >> UMC >> UMPC, with each trying to wipe out the faction to the right of it. That's entirely speculation on my part, though.

If they have more than one victory condition then that would suggest that it's not a faction circle, wouldn't it?
It's not supposed to be conclusive, it's just something that jumped out at me.

Edit: Anomandaris, not Kara said stuff

This post has been edited by Serc: 15 June 2011 - 03:57 PM

[Karatallid]

Serc, on 15 June 2011 - 03:55 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 15 June 2011 - 03:41 PM, said:

Serc, on 15 June 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

Christ that was a lot to read. Will have to go through it all again in the morning I think.
The only thing I picked up on was this:

D, on 15 June 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

I know what the rules said, and I think I have wrapped my head around the scene. I'm still not going to speculate on winning conditions for any faction, especially since I don't know any but the ones I was given. Either my speculation would be way off, and those people would know I am not on their team, or it is way too correct and they vote me off for being dumb. Unless it gets down to very close to WCS cult win time, there is absolutely no reason to talk about winning conditions, which is a huge 'why' at Tiam.

And Fener was pissy about it yesterday, but it got people talking. As of yet, I don't see much at all that Serc has said... Fener is at around 50 posts. Should he have five times the posts of someone else, on the second day of the game, without a lot of spam? I don't think so.

Not really sure about how relevant this is, but

Quote

4.1 - Winning Conditions
The game ends once one faction has reached its winning conditions, which the mods have stated

Apparently you have a couple of winning conditions. Just wondering how many winning conditions each faction has.
Just putting it in the 'File away' drawer anyway.

And. . .
Somehow you seem to be missing a conclusion you get from the post you point out, which makes it kind of futile to quote them.

It's just something I noticed in relation to something you said actually:

Quote

Suggesting a discussion to tease out winning conditions is going to make everyone clam up about them. You would have had better luck if you'd just tried to start such a conversation without prefacing it

With four factions and many of them on seeming friendly terms (ie the UMPC work for the UMC, the Trumpets are sent by the UMPC, the UMC trade resources with the Amnion), I wonder if this isn't a Locke Lamora-style faction circle, with each faction trying to eliminate the one ahead of it. I guess the order would go something like UMPC >> Amnion >> Trumpets >> UMC >> UMPC, with each trying to wipe out the faction to the right of it. That's entirely speculation on my part, though.

If they have more than one victory condition then that would suggest that it's not a faction circle, wouldn't it?
It's not supposed to be conclusive, it's just something that jumped out at me.

You talking to me or Ano? Because the second quote is from him. I didn't speculated about winning conditions at all so far.

[Okaros]

Path-Shaper, on 15 June 2011 - 02:34 PM, said:

theres no scum in this game

really?

evil aliens trying to tak eover humanity don't count, then?

back and catching up, btw

[Okaros]

Path-Shaper, on 15 June 2011 - 02:34 PM, said:

theres no scum in this game

really?

evil aliens trying to tak eover humanity don't count, then?

back and catching up, btw