[D'rek]

Silencer, on 10 April 2017 - 06:31 AM, said:

I've finally got proper internet available at my house, so I'm about to start working through a bunch of stuff I was meaning to watch. Some of them I've forgotten so I'll have to work back through this thread at some point too to try and remember what I wanted to check out.
In the meantime though, I've started watching the first season of KonoSuba, slightly over halfway through already, and I'm enjoying it well enough.

Wow, that took like 2 years for you to get proper internet.

Silencer, on 10 April 2017 - 06:31 AM, said:

Super jealous of LP and D'rek getting to see Your Name - it's not on in cinemas here any more and I want to watch it again! Hopefully they release the DVD soon....

I originally wrote a pithy reply to this along the lines of a joking "You got to see it in November, you don't get to complain now!"

But... then I started writing up what I felt about the movie... and I totally get it. I saw the movie 20 hours ago, not 5 months ago, and I only got 2 sentences into writing about it before feeling like I need to see it again. Though maybe not for the same reasons...


To recap, here's Silencer's original post-KNNW post:

Silencer, on 27 November 2016 - 09:03 AM, said:

So, I just watched Kimi No Na Wa (Your name) at the cinema.

First of all, do not watch this movie at the cinema if you value your dignity.

Second, watch this damn movie!

Now, I'm a sucker for anything by Makoto Shinkai, the man has a direct line to my heartstrings much like Jun Maeda does, but while this was not the most gut wrenching of his films, it was still a work of art, and an exercise in making people FEEL.

Don't be silly, Silencer, it can't have been that emotional? Tell that to literally half of the cinema I just walked out of, who were in tears. (The other half was holding it together, mostly for the purpose of comforting the other half, lol). And I'm talking a full theatre. Like, same number of people in the screening of Fantastic Beasts I saw earlier today (so glad I saw them in that order, could not do another film at the moment). Full on crying. Because Makoto Shinkai is a monster when likes toying with people's emotions.


On the flip side of that, it was a great audience throughout. Everyone laughed, cried, and had a good time. But damn. Haven't seen a public display of emotion like that for a film, ever. Applause, sure. Laughter? Of course. But outright tears? (one guy two seats down from me was just about out of his seat in the fetal position, ffs)

And this wasn't even as emotionally crushing as 5cm/s!

But seriously, see this film. Just... Maybe not in a cinema. XD

And I heard similar things from many others, too.

Likewise LP saw it this weekend and says he's an emotional basketcase.


And I feel a bit weird now, because I didn't have that sort of reaction.

I'm not a stranger to bawling my eyes out like a little baby at emotional anime. I cried watching goddamn Yuri on Ice And this isn't where I say KNNW made me a robot, nope, because I was moved. Profoundly moved. I didn't sob, but I gasped (you can probably guess where). And I felt the pit of my stomach drop (you can probafuckingly guess where! ). My emotions were absolutely toyed with and reacted in full, but I got some sort of turbulent digestion emotional impact rather than saddy mcboatface emotional impact.

I don't have the words to describe the emotions and thoughts I had during this film. I'm not sure I even have the brain-words to make a coherent understanding in my own thoughts. But I know I had an amazing experience seeing it... and if my experience is anything to go by it looks like this a movie that can touch a lot of people in different ways.

And then... the really weird thing is that now that I'm thinking back to it, replaying parts of it in my head while I write this out... now my eyes are getting wet just from thinking about it... what the hell!. So now I'm wondering if I watch it again is it going to hit my emotions in the other way this time?

Babble babble babble looks like I'm a basketcase too and I don't even understand why.

But yeah, Silencer, I totally understand the impulse to see it again!

[Dolmen 2.0]

Wow.

So i'll be looking out for that movie whenever the penguins manage to swim it over to SA.

In the meantime im revisiting Beyond the boundary. I enjoyed it the first time round. I felt annoyed with the length, there was a ton more to be done with the characters but what they managed was very very enjoyable, hence the rewatch. A good balance between supernatural and slice of life tropes, perhaps at times hitting a perfect middle ground. My only problem?

Her somewhat annoying voice in the english dub. Its not terrible but i may try this in the original japanese just to get less high pitched flustering.


Im also rewatching Garden of Sinners. Maybe my favorite Ufotable offering to date.

Shiki is the toughest woman on the planet. I mean anime has had some tough characters in its time but Shiki is psychologicaly one of the most uncompromising lady terrors Ive ever seen. Maybe Saika from Durarara, Yuno Gasai from mirai nikki and the ice lady from akame ga kill give her a run for her money but it is pretty damn close and Shiki has my vote.

[D'rek]

Dolmen 2.0, on 10 April 2017 - 06:15 PM, said:

Wow.

So i'll be looking out for that movie whenever the penguins manage to swim it over to SA.

Definitely do.

Or, well, I'm sure it's available online somewhere, if it's not likely to ever get properly licensed in SA.

If you've seen any of Shinkai's other movies, it's almost kind of like an evolution & refinement of his previous works combined together. I'm not sure whether that makes it better or worse to have seen all his previous films beforehand

[Dolmen 2.0]

D, on 12 April 2017 - 05:16 PM, said:

Dolmen 2.0, on 10 April 2017 - 06:15 PM, said:

Wow.

So i'll be looking out for that movie whenever the penguins manage to swim it over to SA.

Definitely do.

Or, well, I'm sure it's available online somewhere, if it's not likely to ever get properly licensed in SA.

If you've seen any of Shinkai's other movies, it's almost kind of like an evolution & refinement of his previous works combined together. I'm not sure whether that makes it better or worse to have seen all his previous films beforehand

Well i havent watched 5cm per second if thats what you mean. I wasn't interested in this type of thing when it came out but life has educated me well, i can appreciate the feels. Should i watch that first? Serious question, would I like your name more if i watched earlier Shinkai movies first?

Apparently it surpassed miyazakis spirited away being animes highest grossing movie of all time. Thats some major chops. I might need to look fr it online and save purchase for my next visit to Europe whenever next we go see my mum.

This post has been edited by Dolmen 2.0: 12 April 2017 - 08:55 PM

[D'rek]

Dolmen 2.0, on 12 April 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

D, on 12 April 2017 - 05:16 PM, said:

Dolmen 2.0, on 10 April 2017 - 06:15 PM, said:

Wow.

So i'll be looking out for that movie whenever the penguins manage to swim it over to SA.

Definitely do.

Or, well, I'm sure it's available online somewhere, if it's not likely to ever get properly licensed in SA.

If you've seen any of Shinkai's other movies, it's almost kind of like an evolution & refinement of his previous works combined together. I'm not sure whether that makes it better or worse to have seen all his previous films beforehand

Well i havent watched 5cm per second if thats what you mean. I wasn't interested in this type of thing when it came out but life has educated me well, i can appreciate the feels. Should i watch that first? Serious question, would I like your name more if i watched earlier Shinkai movies first?

That's what I'm thinking... but I'm not sure what would be better. Silencer, care to weigh in?

I'd say Your Name has takes (often with modification) ideas particularly from Five Centimeters Per Second, Voices of a Distant Star, and Garden of Words. Not so much The Place Promised in Our Early Days. I haven't seen Children Who Chase Lost Voices so not sure about that one.

Don't get too hung up about it though - I think Your Name will be *plenty* enjoyable either way!

Dolmen 2.0, on 12 April 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

Apparently it surpassed miyazakis spirited away being animes highest grossing movie of all time. Thats some major chops. I might need to look fr it online and save purchase for my next visit to Europe whenever next we go see my mum.

Yup, it's already the highest grossing anime film (though sadly that doesn't mean it is anywhere near the top of "highest grossing animated film" - all the Disney/Pixar and Dreamworks films from the last decade are leagues beyond it).

Though in terms of awards, it hasn't quite surpassed Spirited Away - obviously no Oscar (impossible without Disney licensing it like they did Spirited Away), and also interestingly it lost in a couple Japanese animated film awards to In This Corner Of The World (which hasn't been released outside Japan yet).

[Silencer]

Hmmm. That's a really interesting question. On the one hand, it was really neat seeing the evolution of the work and some of the shared themes, and it really gives you an appreciation for Shinkai's talents. On the flipside, I'm not sure it added to the actual experience, not directly. If anything, it meant I went in with set expectations and possibly even a certain degree of foreknowledge about where the plot would go - though it's by no means *that* derivative of his other works as to be predictable - and I'm kind of curious what it would have been like for this to be someone's first exposure to a Shinkai film...

I think I agree with D'rek. It doesn't really matter, and won't fundamentally change the experience. All it does is add little bits of insight and...I dunno, window dressing? Like when you're watching it you have the other films sitting in the back of your mind too, which probably influences the way you see some scenes. I, for one, would be curious to know what someone thinks going backwards - starting with Kimi no na wa and going back through to 5cm/s, but that's just me. XD

(Also, from what I understand, all the *ahem* online viewing options are currently terrible, or at least not great, given that there is no source material other than the cinema stuff - once the show comes out on disc that should change, though)

[Dolmen 2.0]

Ah well i am in luck then by the time the dvds are out my mum will be traveling down from the northern hemisphere so theres a chance i get it as a belated birthday gift. I'm gonna watch Your Name cold as a first time experience of Shinkai's work. I'll then jump back to his first movie and work my way forwards.

Super interesting to hear this movie had competition in Japan despite its wide spread popularity. The Anime movie industry seems to be experiencing a springtime of youth despite Studio Ghibli stepping out of the lime light.

Wonder if this is coincidental or perhaps its simply people seeing more of what was already there in the absence of such a big name in production.

[D'rek]

Dolmen 2.0, on 13 April 2017 - 03:48 AM, said:

Super interesting to hear this movie had competition in Japan despite its wide spread popularity. The Anime movie industry seems to be experiencing a springtime of youth despite Studio Ghibli stepping out of the lime light.

Wonder if this is coincidental or perhaps its simply people seeing more of what was already there in the absence of such a big name in production.

A bit of both, I think. Miyazaki retiring (repeatedly) and him/Ghibli slowing down certainly does make room for other names to become big. But I think it also took a bit of time for the "new generation" of big names (Shinkai, Hosoda, Katabuchi) to get some experience in making feature films, hone their techniques, etc.

I also think it's a good sign that both Shinkai and Hosoda are now working entirely with their own more-or-less-exclusive studios (CoMix for Shinkia, and Chizu for Hosoda). They're setting themselves up as direct successors to the same model used by Miyazaki+Ghibli, as opposed to the last "generation" of the late 1990s and 2000s (Satoshi Kon, Mamoru Oshii, etc) who used TV series studios and did lots of adaptations rather than all original works.

[D'rek]

How's the start of the new season going, everyone?


I sat down to watch the first 3 episodes of Granblue this morning, and like Dolmen said it's pretty! Lots of smooth motion, and I like the art style (which I'm not quite sure how to describe). Only thing I'm worried about is that the story seems to be an RPG-like "set out on adventure and gather party members" sort of plot, but the show is only 1 cour long. I'm not sure we'll get much of a climax or conclusion if most of the season is spent getting the party together, and the noblemen+soldier villains so far aren't setting up much of an interesting antagonist.

It's kinda funny how there are two different fantasy shows set in floating island worlds this season. The other one is Shuumatsu Nani Super Long Name. Only one episode of this is out yet, but I was very, very impressed. Seems to be less of an adventure, more of a drama and romance, but it is super charming. There's an early scene of two characters walking around the floating city with Scarborough Fair as the background music, it's awesome. And the first episode opens, before the OP, with a very dramatic flash-forward, so this one might get really intense later. Also, the kids are super cute. Definitely check this one out!

Other than those, I've checked out so far (it's Easter weekend and I've been hiding from my family):

Sakura Quest - My favourite so far. Funny, stylish, and gorgeous, too.
Attack on Titan S2 - Great so far, lots of plot development and new mysteries, creepy as hell
Rage of Bahamut S2 - Fantastic. Mina is hilarious to watch, and it's a very interesting new direction to follow the original with.
Seikaisuru Kado - I like it. It's cool to see the government/experts acting rationally and not being the incompetent or overly aggressive nincompoops most first contact stories make them. The main character guy seems like he's maybe a bit too perfect, but with the government acting capably too it works.
Atom:The Beginning - Good start. I've never seen Astro Boy but this looks like fun and will pay proper homage to the original.
My Hero Academia S2 - More of the same, but kinda disappointing. Everyone acts like an idiot just so Izuku can look good.
Warau Salesman - Disappointed. Was hoping for Faust, got more like "alcohol-induced peer pressure on people who are too dumb to read the fine print".


Anyone checked our Clockwork Planet or Love Tyrant yet?

[LinearPhilosopher]

saw like 1 minute of clockwork... need to have the time to watch it.

dropped warau after 1 episode.

Really like Kado and AOT thus far, Kado has a lot of potential IMO.

Also been watching the chinese show about the mmo esport pro. Its not bad so far.

[D'rek]

D, on 16 April 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

It's kinda funny how there are two different fantasy shows set in floating island worlds this season. The other one is Shuumatsu Nani Super Long Name. Only one episode of this is out yet, but I was very, very impressed. Seems to be less of an adventure, more of a drama and romance, but it is super charming. There's an early scene of two characters walking around the floating city with Scarborough Fair as the background music, it's awesome. And the first episode opens, before the OP, with a very dramatic flash-forward, so this one might get really intense later. Also, the kids are super cute. Definitely check this one out!

I take this back. Episode 2 had a lot of stupid in it. Can probably skip this one.

[LinearPhilosopher]

Zero kara something something something

Not bad ep1 so far. Havent had a chance to see ep 2 yet though

Cosplay is taking all my free time.

[D'rek]

LinearPhilosopher, on 20 April 2017 - 02:47 AM, said:

Cosplay is taking all my free time.

Go on...

[LinearPhilosopher]

D, on 20 April 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

LinearPhilosopher, on 20 April 2017 - 02:47 AM, said:

Cosplay is taking all my free time.

Go on...

Bit of a secret, pokemon mixed with mecha mixed with power rangers.

Also maid roadhogg

[EmperorMagus]

I watched Your Name at the cinema tonight.

WTF

That was so good.

[Silencer]

So, continuing my run of luck with anime movies screening in Australia at cinemas, I have just got back from watching Koe no Katachi/A Silent Voice.

I am a bit torn on this one. It's probably not fair to compare it with the masterpiece that was Your Name, but my brain apparently isn't interested in that logic. XD Ultimately, it was decent, but flawed in enough ways to make me a little disappointed in it.

I'll go into spoilers for the more in-depth response, but frankly I think the main issue with this movie was that it was a movie. Animated by KyoAni (apparently by the part of KyoAni that doesn't make near-photorealistic scenes? Honestly if I hadn't seen their name in the opening credits, I would probably have called you a liar if you told me it was their work), it adapts a 50ish chapter manga. Every goddamn character in it is a total asshole, except for three, two of whom are nice people who basically struggle under the weight of all the assholes around. I can see how this was hard to get published. When even the protagonist is introduced as a Grade A bully, you've got a long uphill battle to get anyone to cheer for.
Having read the TV Tropes page after seeing the film, I can safely say that if this had been a series, it would likely have been a lot better. More time to go into more detail to present a more coherent and well-rounded plot. As it was, the thing felt a little disjointed - to the point where scenes which immediately followed each other left me wondering if we had just done a time-skip, because there was no reference point and it was so discontinuous from the previous scene.
What I will give them credit for though, is brutal emotional realism. To the point where I'd say you could feel a little bit uncomfortable if you've ever suffered serious bullying in your life (or, indeed, if you've been on the giving end and don't really like yourself for that now). They hit the nail on the head with how vicious (and often over petty or silly reasons) kids can be, and pulled zero punches in showing how significant the long-term effects can be, for all involved (including a top-tier depiction of pathological narcissism, rarely seen in fiction in favour of the over-the-top villainous kind). I honestly think if they'd pulled these themes on me over the course of a 26-episode show, I would've had a very different reaction to it, a deeper emotional response to the characters, and been way more satisfied with the outcome.

So, for some more specific stuff:

Spoiler

So yeah, all the characters are monsters. Which, as I said, is a pretty solid depiction of a certain segment of the population, especially kids and high schoolers. At least two of the characters, in my eyes, were never even remotely redeemed because they never changed, were still basically bullies, and did some seriously fucked up shit. Bullying a deaf girl because she's deaf is bad enough, but blaming her for not "trying harder" to understand YOU? And on the other end of the scale, a character who can't even admit she was part of the bullying at all, despite being a major party to it, and is still doing things that mess with the original subject of your bullying, but also your entire group of "friends" too? Fuuuuuuuuuuck.
It makes me wonder what the author was going for, having them all sort of end up still as friends at the end. Like, I know from my time in high school, plenty of people remained friends with toxic types and even their own bullies just because, but come on, man, there was some outright physical assault in there! Of a deaf girl! While she was already with a sprained arm! After a suicide attempt! Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Even the main character, who at least is trying to redeem himself, and asks whether he has any right to do so on a regular basis, in a relatively meaningful way, still strikes me as someone who really shouldn't have had a second chance in the first place. Which leads me to issue number two:

All. The. Goddamn. Apologising.
Now, to be fair, some of it is VERY well earned, and outright required in Japanese society - but a lot of it all comes in a short space of time, which makes the less justified stuff feel...shallow. For example the two main characters apologise to each other like three times in two minutes, and it really just ends up feeling like either someone is being disingenuous, or someone needs some serious pyschological help to remove their guilt complex. (Not that the latter isn't necessarily true regardless.)
I don't know. It just ended up feeling like the story was relying on showing you a person crying and apologising to generate an emotional response. Rather than doing actual work to build up to the same. Heck, I've watched anime where a character does a really sincere bow that was well earned and felt more than I did for what must've been like a solid 5 minutes of cry/apologise/cry/apologise across like four characters. Partly this is likely because the mid-end of the story, where most of this happens, is one of the most disjointed parts of the movie (and also, from what I can understand, the part with the most stuff left out - contributing to the disjointed feeling both by ramming scenes closer together than they should have been, and by removing some actual events and character POVs that make things make more sense entirely). Like, there was one serious apology that I was like, "OK, shit, that was significant", but then it just devolves into pointless ones, and it kinda lost me, investment-wise.

However! I will give the show points for making me feel, at least in part, some of the frustration that Shouko must have been feeling, with the communication difficulties. No idea if that was intentional, but by having some scenes make no sense due to missing context, I did empathise with the moments where she had to tug on someone's sleeve and ask what was being talked about. XD I'm not kidding here. Can anyone watch that movie and get the whole situation? NO! Because, according to TV Tropes, the main characters were all in a goddamn film crew/club thing. Which. Never. Came. Up. Because. That. Entire. Plot. Got. Skipped. Would it have made a difference to the story? Not by itself. Does it sound like there was some significant events that happened while they were doing that which got wiped out wholesale along with it? YES. Argh.

Also, for a show with a solidly established world, with no supernatural forces at work, there were some hella contrived coincidences. I'm thinking mainly of the "oh, really, he woke up RIGHT THEN and headed to that spot STRAIGHT AWAY" variety - as if willed there by another character. But eh. It only really happened once.


Also, massive props to Shouko's younger sister, Yuzuru, who annoyed the crap out of me for the first 15 minutes of screentime due to behaviour and portrayal but ended up being one of my favourite characters with the most realised development and motivations. Not sure if that's largely due to her plotline being mostly intact or what, but it was well done all around.

So yeah. Basically I feel like this was hampered by its choice of medium more than anything. A two-hour plus movie shouldn't have any excuses to chop out enough plot to undermine itself, unless the source material wasn't right for a movie in the first place. And I think that's exactly what happened here. I'd love for them to redo this as a series, just to see if that really helps (the manga is, for once, actually an appealing option for me just to see if it's really more complete as the TV Tropes page entries make it seem). I am also going to put it out there that, while I think most of my criticism here is valid, I may be being harsher on the show than normal due to the very high bar set by Your Name. It's still a decent watch, but it definitely isn't a great one. Which is disappointing, because it does some things so well, and those things are rarely even addressed, let alone properly.

[D'rek]

Well, I guess that's not too surprising. It was directed by the director and writer of K-On and Tamako Market, and I don't think either of them have any previous standalone film experience. And it hasn't won any awards or been making any headlines... I guess if it was good we should have been hearing more about it already, even if it were still being overshadowed by Your Name (we've been seeing articles about In This Corner Of The World despite that, so that one probably is pretty good).

This in particular is pretty disappointing:

Silencer, on 24 April 2017 - 08:30 AM, said:

Animated by KyoAni (apparently by the part of KyoAni that doesn't make near-photorealistic scenes? Honestly if I hadn't seen their name in the opening credits, I would probably have called you a liar if you told me it was their work)

Honestly, the only reason I probably even know about A Silent Voice is because it is made by KyoAni and that instantly had people anticipating the visuals. If the plot/adaptation is not enjoyable *and* KyoAni's trademark visual excellence isn't there then there's really nothing left for this film and it is definitely going to fail to live up to expectations.

[Dolmen 2.0]

LinearPhilosopher, on 17 April 2017 - 01:36 AM, said:

saw like 1 minute of clockwork... need to have the time to watch it.

dropped warau after 1 episode.

Really like Kado and AOT thus far, Kado has a lot of potential IMO.

Also been watching the chinese show about the mmo esport pro. Its not bad so far.

Quan Zhi Gao Shou?

I really like it.

The art blends together so well, Cg And animated cell shade frames mesh in a way I havent really seen pulled off before.

The MC is stoic but relatable. He doesnt say much but theres a sociable cunning to him that makes his OP abilities fit his non too flashy real world persona.

I like how the drama is just as compelling out of the game as it is inside the game.

If I can say one thing about Animes depicting an MMO society its how bland the "real world" is to to the gaming world. Quan Zhi Gao Shou feels like its taking the pro player motivations seriously. I dont play MMOs, its a time investment i sadly cant commit to, but I like it, this sort of anime makes me want to mke time for it.

Theres alot to enjoy it seems.

[Silencer]

In other news, I've just finished the second season of KonoSuba. Thoroughly enjoyable for something predicated on such a limited range of jokes. I don't think I'll ever get tired of overly dramatic music, a shouted "EXPLOSION!", and a moderate sized nuclear explosion going off. >.<
It seems like there's potential for a third season to round out the overall 'quest', but from the ending of season 2 I take it that this isn't currently in the works/particularly planned, and I'm totally OK with that conceptually, because of the aforementioned limited range - I would be a lot happier with them taking the strong finish than delivering a sub-par third season. But if they can knock another one out to finish it off? That would be excellent, too.

Oh, and I managed to squeeze in Gabriel DropOut in-between as well (because who doesn't love two light comedy shows at the same time?). Also surprisingly solid hits on most of the pitches on this one, despite another fairly limited pool to draw from. And again it sorted ended well - no need for a follow-up season, though of course the door is open, less likely in this case I think given the lack of plot to resolve, but basically just a solid run the whole way through and a nice return to status quo to cap it off. The OVA, tho'...Vignette is going to be the first demon to ascend to Heaven, I swear...XD God-class Divine Light.



Now, what to watch next...

[Dolmen 2.0]

Silencer, on 27 April 2017 - 12:10 AM, said:

In other news, I've just finished the second season of KonoSuba. Thoroughly enjoyable for something predicated on such a limited range of jokes. I don't think I'll ever get tired of overly dramatic music, a shouted "EXPLOSION!", and a moderate sized nuclear explosion going off. >.<
It seems like there's potential for a third season to round out the overall 'quest', but from the ending of season 2 I take it that this isn't currently in the works/particularly planned, and I'm totally OK with that conceptually, because of the aforementioned limited range - I would be a lot happier with them taking the strong finish than delivering a sub-par third season. But if they can knock another one out to finish it off? That would be excellent, too.

Oh, and I managed to squeeze in Gabriel DropOut in-between as well (because who doesn't love two light comedy shows at the same time?). Also surprisingly solid hits on most of the pitches on this one, despite another fairly limited pool to draw from. And again it sorted ended well - no need for a follow-up season, though of course the door is open, less likely in this case I think given the lack of plot to resolve, but basically just a solid run the whole way through and a nice return to status quo to cap it off. The OVA, tho'...Vignette is going to be the first demon to ascend to Heaven, I swear...XD God-class Divine Light.



Now, what to watch next...

Heh Konosuba is awesome! Great run so far and i think its because they over do their best jokes that you almost relish anticipation for the next mini nuclear bomb or anything dodgy from darkness. But like everyone says in thread Kazuma sells it with his super straight man reactions.

Its a good formula and the end scene with Wiz going all out really proved how good the animation choreography can get on this title. I fore see one or two Gintama-esque seriously good fight scenes in the next installment.

I really really hope season 2 introduces the demonlord to be as hilarious as his generals have been. The show has had a mildly good set of antagonists but the set up is primed for the introduction of a really great one. We've seen anime do some good stuff subverting the idea of a demon lord ie Hataraku Maou-Sama I think Konosuba will take that idea and run with it. I'm eagerly hoping for a third season.