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Posted 08 September 2015 - 08:46 PM

So i started catching up with durarara. Not as into this cour as others. Maybe its because orihara isn't involved but there isn't the same chaos with the intertwined storylines as there usually is.
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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:39 AM

Can i just geek out on the fact One Punch man first episode just aired and i just watched it and it was freakin cool?

Yes. Yes I can.

One punch man was Everything i hoped it would be. This could end here and i'd be happy but the fact is it gets sooooo much better, sooooo much funnier and the battles were epic. Three demon class threats in one episode just as an intro, even if the third was a non-entity, they each had a flavour, each had a part in forming up who Satou is and just why it's a mistake to ignore badly dressed super heroes with absurdly shiny bald heads.

Theres always been that parody of shounen, hidden in the work but One punch man anime actually bothered to get more random human screen time. It makes you think about the massive amount of destruction, the loss of lives etc. but the monsters and heroes still go about doing their thing tearing the place up.

The cities named city a, city b, city c etc. shows the author isnt too bothered by the massive loss of life. Its actually a fitting world system. If you get visited often by world ending monsters why bother with a meaningful name? Keep things simple, or so things seems to say. The general populace is always ready to run, or in the case of the kid with the cleft chin, the populace just doesnt give a damn

Anyways i loved it. Worth the watch.

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 03:48 AM

View PostLinearPhilosopher, on 08 September 2015 - 08:46 PM, said:

So i started catching up with durarara. Not as into this cour as others. Maybe its because orihara isn't involved but there isn't the same chaos with the intertwined storylines as there usually is.


By this cour you mean x2 Ten?

Yeah, the volumes it is covering (7, 8, 9, 10) are more stand-alone than the most of the others, and the few multi-volume plots running between them are either very infrequently shown (the New Blue Squares cleaning the Dollars) or are not that interesting (Heaven's Slave). The 7th volume literally opened and closed with narrative explaining it was a "vacation arc" so yeah not a lot of major stuff going on at the start of x2 Ten.

I'm not sure how far they will get by the end of this cour... I am hoping they finish the cour on the last non-epilogue chapter of volume 10, in which case you will be floored! But either way, keep going, I think you'll find something you like by about episode 8 of this cour...


View PostDolmen 2.0, on 09 September 2015 - 02:39 AM, said:

Can i just geek out on the fact One Punch man first episode just aired and i just watched it and it was freakin cool?

Yes. Yes I can.

One punch man was Everything i hoped it would be. This could end here and i'd be happy but the fact is it gets sooooo much better, sooooo much funnier and the battles were epic. Three demon class threats in one episode just as an intro, even if the third was a non-entity, they each had a flavour, each had a part in forming up who Satou is and just why it's a mistake to ignore badly dressed super heroes with absurdly shiny bald heads.

Theres always been that parody of shounen, hidden in the work but One punch man anime actually bothered to get more random human screen time. It makes you think about the massive amount of destruction, the loss of lives etc. but the monsters and heroes still go about doing their thing tearing the place up.

The cities named city a, city b, city c etc. shows the author isnt too bothered by the massive loss of life. Its actually a fitting world system. If you get visited often by world ending monsters why bother with a meaningful name? Keep things simple, or so things seems to say. The general populace is always ready to run, or in the case of the kid with the cleft chin, the populace just doesnt give a damn

Anyways i loved it. Worth the watch.


It really does seem like this is going to be one of those shows that lives up to its hype (and people have been pre-emptively RAVING about it for months now on the bigger social media anime networks, it seems). I haven't watched the first episode yet, as I heard it was just a promo release and the fan-subs for it so far are really bad. Maybe that has been fixed now?

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 09 September 2015 - 04:22 AM

View PostD, on 09 September 2015 - 03:48 AM, said:

View PostLinearPhilosopher, on 08 September 2015 - 08:46 PM, said:

So i started catching up with durarara. Not as into this cour as others. Maybe its because orihara isn't involved but there isn't the same chaos with the intertwined storylines as there usually is.


By this cour you mean x2 Ten?

Yeah, the volumes it is covering (7, 8, 9, 10) are more stand-alone than the most of the others, and the few multi-volume plots running between them are either very infrequently shown (the New Blue Squares cleaning the Dollars) or are not that interesting (Heaven's Slave). The 7th volume literally opened and closed with narrative explaining it was a "vacation arc" so yeah not a lot of major stuff going on at the start of x2 Ten.

I'm not sure how far they will get by the end of this cour... I am hoping they finish the cour on the last non-epilogue chapter of volume 10, in which case you will be floored! But either way, keep going, I think you'll find something you like by about episode 8 of this cour...


View PostDolmen 2.0, on 09 September 2015 - 02:39 AM, said:

Can i just geek out on the fact One Punch man first episode just aired and i just watched it and it was freakin cool?

Yes. Yes I can.

One punch man was Everything i hoped it would be. This could end here and i'd be happy but the fact is it gets sooooo much better, sooooo much funnier and the battles were epic. Three demon class threats in one episode just as an intro, even if the third was a non-entity, they each had a flavour, each had a part in forming up who Satou is and just why it's a mistake to ignore badly dressed super heroes with absurdly shiny bald heads.

Theres always been that parody of shounen, hidden in the work but One punch man anime actually bothered to get more random human screen time. It makes you think about the massive amount of destruction, the loss of lives etc. but the monsters and heroes still go about doing their thing tearing the place up.

The cities named city a, city b, city c etc. shows the author isnt too bothered by the massive loss of life. Its actually a fitting world system. If you get visited often by world ending monsters why bother with a meaningful name? Keep things simple, or so things seems to say. The general populace is always ready to run, or in the case of the kid with the cleft chin, the populace just doesnt give a damn

Anyways i loved it. Worth the watch.


It really does seem like this is going to be one of those shows that lives up to its hype (and people have been pre-emptively RAVING about it for months now on the bigger social media anime networks, it seems). I haven't watched the first episode yet, as I heard it was just a promo release and the fan-subs for it so far are really bad. Maybe that has been fixed now?


The fan subs were terrible. And yet glorious.

It might bother you if you havent had a look through chapter one of the manga. The copy i watched had text like <idk> and entire dialoguesequences missing. It still rocked, grateful for the effort put in to get these together early. For anyone new to the series i'd understand waiting on quality subs. The dialogue has more than a few gems hidden in between the grandstanding.

Im curious, what sites can I subscribe to here in SA that payback to anime studios?

I'd genuinely like to support shows like GitS and Durarara but sites like crunchyroll seem inaccessible for me. I don't fully understand why...

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 04:50 AM

View PostDolmen 2.0, on 09 September 2015 - 04:22 AM, said:

The fan subs were terrible. And yet glorious.

It might bother you if you havent had a look through chapter one of the manga. The copy i watched had text like <idk> and entire dialoguesequences missing. It still rocked, grateful for the effort put in to get these together early. For anyone new to the series i'd understand waiting on quality subs. The dialogue has more than a few gems hidden in between the grandstanding.


Ya, I'll wait then. IIRC, the show's "real" first episode debut is second week of October, so not that long a wait.


View PostDolmen 2.0, on 09 September 2015 - 04:22 AM, said:

Im curious, what sites can I subscribe to here in SA that payback to anime studios?

I'd genuinely like to support shows like GitS and Durarara but sites like crunchyroll seem inaccessible for me. I don't fully understand why...


Crunchyroll, Funimation, Hulu and Netflix are the only major ones I know of.

It all comes down to licensing, which is done per show AND per region. According to an interview with the Crunchyroll CEO I read a while back, they basically make an offer to every show to license it in every region, but they often don't get it. From my understanding, if they don't get it they also try to sub-license the show from whoever does get it. If the one who does get it is another streaming service, then it'd be rare for them to get the sub-license, but if there is no streaming service with the license rights and instead it is just a DVD-selling publisher-type company or license-holding company they might get it, but the region limitations will be more restrictive.

So, like, for Show A Crunchyroll makes an offer for the rights, outright wins it and streams the show to every region in the world.

Then Show B Crunchyroll doesn't get the rights to at all, and Funimation gets them, so Crunchyroll doesn't have the show at all.

And then Show C Aniplex USA gets the licensing rights to it, but they're willing to sub-license a streaming-only license to Crunchyroll, and only in the US, UK and Canada. The show is still not available to stream (legally) anywhere else (well, I'm sure they licensed it to a stream in Japan, too, of course).


So yeah, in SA I'm sure there are a LOT less shows that are licensed to there, simply because it isn't as big of a market. Companies that get the license to sell the Blu-rays probably won't even sell them there, either, just send export copies from the US/UK distributions at best.

There are web tools you can use to make your connection appear as if you're in another region, though, like TunnelBear. Some people use those to make it look like they are in the USA, and then they can access all the USA-licensed shows on Crunchyroll.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 09 September 2015 - 06:05 AM

View PostD, on 09 September 2015 - 04:50 AM, said:

View PostDolmen 2.0, on 09 September 2015 - 04:22 AM, said:

The fan subs were terrible. And yet glorious.

It might bother you if you havent had a look through chapter one of the manga. The copy i watched had text like <idk> and entire dialoguesequences missing. It still rocked, grateful for the effort put in to get these together early. For anyone new to the series i'd understand waiting on quality subs. The dialogue has more than a few gems hidden in between the grandstanding.


Ya, I'll wait then. IIRC, the show's "real" first episode debut is second week of October, so not that long a wait.


View PostDolmen 2.0, on 09 September 2015 - 04:22 AM, said:

Im curious, what sites can I subscribe to here in SA that payback to anime studios?

I'd genuinely like to support shows like GitS and Durarara but sites like crunchyroll seem inaccessible for me. I don't fully understand why...


Crunchyroll, Funimation, Hulu and Netflix are the only major ones I know of.

It all comes down to licensing, which is done per show AND per region. According to an interview with the Crunchyroll CEO I read a while back, they basically make an offer to every show to license it in every region, but they often don't get it. From my understanding, if they don't get it they also try to sub-license the show from whoever does get it. If the one who does get it is another streaming service, then it'd be rare for them to get the sub-license, but if there is no streaming service with the license rights and instead it is just a DVD-selling publisher-type company or license-holding company they might get it, but the region limitations will be more restrictive.

So, like, for Show A Crunchyroll makes an offer for the rights, outright wins it and streams the show to every region in the world.

Then Show B Crunchyroll doesn't get the rights to at all, and Funimation gets them, so Crunchyroll doesn't have the show at all.

And then Show C Aniplex USA gets the licensing rights to it, but they're willing to sub-license a streaming-only license to Crunchyroll, and only in the US, UK and Canada. The show is still not available to stream (legally) anywhere else (well, I'm sure they licensed it to a stream in Japan, too, of course).


So yeah, in SA I'm sure there are a LOT less shows that are licensed to there, simply because it isn't as big of a market. Companies that get the license to sell the Blu-rays probably won't even sell them there, either, just send export copies from the US/UK distributions at best.

There are web tools you can use to make your connection appear as if you're in another region, though, like TunnelBear. Some people use those to make it look like they are in the USA, and then they can access all the USA-licensed shows on Crunchyroll.


Ok, that sheds a lot of light on the issue. Thanks D'rek. So if I used a system like that TunnelBear and paid for access to a show I'd be supporting it but not in the legal sense of the word?

Its weird that SA hasn't produced a Netflix or Crunchyroll type site. The market is growing and exponentially fast. Four years ago I could count the number of anime fans I knew of with my fingers. now? I know of three in my building, five of my relatives are into it full scale and most of my archi and art students from my varsity days had gotten in on the ground floor.

Let me do some searching, if this is a vacant market I'd be astounded. The numbers are growing quickly. DBZ was introduced on our national Television channels during my High school years. We had a dedicated Anime channel shortly after on satelite TV and I know Naruto has been running on the same national TV channel since last year at the very least. I get to stream most of the anime I watch online as is popular. perhaps the major reason we lost the dedicated anime channel, think it was called Animax? I understand it was UK based?

Anyways I think it could be there's something I'm missing here. perhaps traffic to popular legal streaming sites from my country is too low?

hmmmn *sets on thinking cap*

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:05 PM

View PostDolmen 2.0, on 09 September 2015 - 06:05 AM, said:

Ok, that sheds a lot of light on the issue. Thanks D'rek. So if I used a system like that TunnelBear and paid for access to a show I'd be supporting it but not in the legal sense of the word?


I don't think there's anything actually illegal about it - at least for you. If you went on a vacation to the US it'd be perfectly legal for you to use their streaming sites while there, and using VPN services to circumvent geo-blocking is also perfectly legal so putting them together shouldn't be any different.

I guess the only illegality would be on Funimation or whoever's part since by letting you circumvent their geo-block like that they are violating their license agreement, so in theory they could get in trouble with the company that gave them the license, but in practice I don't think any of those companies care - after all, if there's no good alternative in SA then this is the only way they get money from you (either the ad revenue or the subscription fee).




View PostDolmen 2.0, on 09 September 2015 - 06:05 AM, said:

Its weird that SA hasn't produced a Netflix or Crunchyroll type site. The market is growing and exponentially fast. Four years ago I could count the number of anime fans I knew of with my fingers. now? I know of three in my building, five of my relatives are into it full scale and most of my archi and art students from my varsity days had gotten in on the ground floor.

Let me do some searching, if this is a vacant market I'd be astounded. The numbers are growing quickly. DBZ was introduced on our national Television channels during my High school years. We had a dedicated Anime channel shortly after on satelite TV and I know Naruto has been running on the same national TV channel since last year at the very least. I get to stream most of the anime I watch online as is popular. perhaps the major reason we lost the dedicated anime channel, think it was called Animax? I understand it was UK based?

Anyways I think it could be there's something I'm missing here. perhaps traffic to popular legal streaming sites from my country is too low?

hmmmn *sets on thinking cap*


Yeah, Wikipedia says Animax had a South African channel from 2007 to 2010. Doesn't say why they terminated it, but I imagine that would definitely have helped increase the general anime popularity there in the last 8 years.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:15 PM

Also be aware that some subscription services require you to have a valid credit card and/or billing address in the country you are claiming to be from. Just something to check prior to spending any money on anything. XD
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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:22 PM

View PostSilencer, on 09 September 2015 - 02:15 PM, said:

Also be aware that some subscription services require you to have a valid credit card and/or billing address in the country you are claiming to be from. Just something to check prior to spending any money on anything. XD


Or sidestep it with a prepaid credit card. They have no country-location limits AFAIK. It's how people in Canada have gotten to pay of the live Big Brother feeds since they are run by a US company now and require a US CC...but the prepaid cards don't seem to be beholden to country borders like that. Just a possibility.
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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:25 PM

... What is a 'prepaid credit card'? O.o

... That's like the opposite of a credit card... Which would make it a debit card. But what makes it a prepaid credit card and not a debit card?
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View PostSilencer, on 09 September 2015 - 02:25 PM, said:

... What is a 'prepaid credit card'? O.o

... That's like the opposite of a credit card... Which would make it a debit card. But what makes it a prepaid credit card and not a debit card?


Amex, Visa, and Mastercard all do "pre-paid" Credit Cards. They are essentially a credit card of a certain amount ($25, $50, $100, $200 ect.) already on it, with a credit card number, and a security code. You can use these like a regular credit card (in stores or online) as long as your purchase doesn't exceed the prepaid amount.

So in the case I mentioned above, the American company that streams the Big Brother live feeds requires an American credit card number. So form what I heard the way around that was to buy the pre-paid CC's in a store, and use that number to buy it. The prepaid cards are made to be ubiquitous regardless of country so they can be sent as gifts to relatives or friends in other countries. They aren't associated with a specific person, just a code number that denotes it as active.

But they are basically used as Credit Cards...just ones that you've got a +balance on.

It sounds like they don't have them in NZ? We have them all over North America though.

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View PostSilencer, on 08 September 2015 - 02:06 PM, said:

I swear if the internet spoils Charlotte for me, I'm going to kill the mule...


im planning on starting the binge around ep 11 air time
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Posted 10 September 2015 - 01:39 AM

@QT...then that's not a 'credit card'? I get what they're going for but it doesn't make any banking sense to call it a credit card, lol.
If we do have them here then I've never heard of one (and I work for a bank, lpl).

I think I know of them nebulous like from articles on how to get around netflix region locks and the like, but yeah, never heard of this self-contradictory concept before. XD


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Posted 10 September 2015 - 03:04 AM

View PostSilencer, on 10 September 2015 - 01:39 AM, said:

@QT...then that's not a 'credit card'? I get what they're going for but it doesn't make any banking sense to call it a credit card, lol.
If we do have them here then I've never heard of one (and I work for a bank, lpl).

I think I know of them nebulous like from articles on how to get around netflix region locks and the like, but yeah, never heard of this self-contradictory concept before. XD


@LP - possibly a good idea. I'll think about it.


idk about you but 7 days to watch 11 episodes. That's 1-2 episodes a day no problem
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Posted 10 September 2015 - 01:32 PM

View PostLinearPhilosopher, on 10 September 2015 - 03:04 AM, said:

View PostSilencer, on 10 September 2015 - 01:39 AM, said:

@QT...then that's not a 'credit card'? I get what they're going for but it doesn't make any banking sense to call it a credit card, lol.
If we do have them here then I've never heard of one (and I work for a bank, lpl).

I think I know of them nebulous like from articles on how to get around netflix region locks and the like, but yeah, never heard of this self-contradictory concept before. XD


@LP - possibly a good idea. I'll think about it.


idk about you but 7 days to watch 11 episodes. That's 1-2 episodes a day no problem


(psssst, Charlotte is going to be 13 episodes long)

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 01:51 PM

And I will almost certainly watch more than two episodes a day. XD
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Posted 10 September 2015 - 02:02 PM

View PostSilencer, on 10 September 2015 - 01:39 AM, said:

@QT...then that's not a 'credit card'? I get what they're going for but it doesn't make any banking sense to call it a credit card, lol.
If we do have them here then I've never heard of one (and I work for a bank, lpl).

I think I know of them nebulous like from articles on how to get around netflix region locks and the like, but yeah, never heard of this self-contradictory concept before. XD


Well, those companies call them prepaid credit cards. And they work like CC's...just with a +balance (like when you overpay it off in a given month and you have a +balance). So I dunno.
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Posted 10 September 2015 - 02:16 PM

Do you guys have debit cards or eftpos at all over there?

I mean, I'm mainly interested because the terminology is so strange (from an accounting standpoint such a card makes no sense, as there is no 'credit' involved, so to speak), but it sounds like they perform the same function as a debit card here.
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Posted 10 September 2015 - 02:27 PM

View PostSilencer, on 10 September 2015 - 02:16 PM, said:

Do you guys have debit cards or eftpos at all over there?

I mean, I'm mainly interested because the terminology is so strange (from an accounting standpoint such a card makes no sense, as there is no 'credit' involved, so to speak), but it sounds like they perform the same function as a debit card here.


Silencer, don't apply accounting to banks. They reverse credits and debit so everything gets thrown out.

With a debit card you can increase the amount on it. Pre paid CCs have a fixed limit. Its like a prepaid expense but cause its a bank debits and credits get flipped. Make sense?

Also charlotte is 13? didn't know that. Im used to the 12 weeks per quarter type of thinking. Not that I mind. With a narrative you shouldnt be constrained by an arbitrary limit.Imagine if every erikson book was exactly 1000 pages.... (granted at that point i'd just mess with font size and period size).

Still i'd likely end up watching 4 eps one day and 4 a few days from that.
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Posted 13 September 2015 - 12:44 AM

Rokka no yuusha

Loved the latest episode

So the real activation of the barrier has been revealed. This means a few things

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