[LinearPhilosopher]

D, on 06 June 2015 - 04:12 PM, said:

Instead the writer added, in addition to all of the above:

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Sakura/Shinji Master switching!

An extra Servant that comes out of nowhere for no apparent reason unless you've seen Fate/Zero (which hadn't been written yet) and it is not satisfactorily explained how he can even have existed this long without mana.

Servants can come from the future!

A Servant can be YOU from the future!

A Servant who is you from the future wants to kill you! Even though the timelines are already clearly different and such drastic measures are obviously unreasonable/unnecessary.

There's some sort of universal force that recruits people to murder people for the sake or order or something. Let's talk about this once and never delve deeper!

You can learn the skills of future Servant YOU by touching your swords to his... or something.

Your dad put a magic scabbard in your body (somehow) without ever telling you and it keeps you alive! This seems so ordinary and unshocking we'll never talk about it again!

Servants don't actually get a wish, they're deaths just feed the Grail!

One of the Masters is actually a mini grail... thing...

Oh wait, she's dead, but now ANOTHER Master can also be the mini grail... thing... even though she's not a homunculus... or something

The Grail is tainted by a random African kid from 100 years ago!

...and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting...

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cept master switching is possible by virtue of seals being transferable, hell the einzbern mage in s1 was using his wifes mana. So not a huge rule break here
also it was stated numerous times heros can come from any time period, that doesn't neccesarily mean the past
a servant can be you, assuming you have the potential for that in the futre.
are the timelines clearly different though? archer did recognize saber after all. And lets be honest, archer wasn't exactly happy with the way things turned out
Just my 2 cents, since shirous all about creating stuff he likely got a better feel for how archer makes his stuff.
as for the sheath being in shrious, thats touched more upon in the fate stay night route.
how is the servants not getting a wish a bad thing from a writing perspective?

look at it this way, dop we really need every little details spoonfed to us? what about the whole go for the ride and make inferences where needed

This post has been edited by BalrogLord: 08 June 2015 - 07:57 PM

[D'rek]

BalrogLord, on 08 June 2015 - 07:55 PM, said:

D, on 06 June 2015 - 04:12 PM, said:

Instead the writer added, in addition to all of the above:

Spoiler

Sakura/Shinji Master switching!

An extra Servant that comes out of nowhere for no apparent reason unless you've seen Fate/Zero (which hadn't been written yet) and it is not satisfactorily explained how he can even have existed this long without mana.

Servants can come from the future!

A Servant can be YOU from the future!

A Servant who is you from the future wants to kill you! Even though the timelines are already clearly different and such drastic measures are obviously unreasonable/unnecessary.

There's some sort of universal force that recruits people to murder people for the sake or order or something. Let's talk about this once and never delve deeper!

You can learn the skills of future Servant YOU by touching your swords to his... or something.

Your dad put a magic scabbard in your body (somehow) without ever telling you and it keeps you alive! This seems so ordinary and unshocking we'll never talk about it again!

Servants don't actually get a wish, they're deaths just feed the Grail!

One of the Masters is actually a mini grail... thing...

Oh wait, she's dead, but now ANOTHER Master can also be the mini grail... thing... even though she's not a homunculus... or something

The Grail is tainted by a random African kid from 100 years ago!

...and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting...

Spoiler

cept master switching is possible by virtue of seals being transferable, hell the einzbern mage in s1 was using his wifes mana. So not a huge rule break here
also it was stated numerous times heros can come from any time period, that doesn't neccesarily mean the past
a servant can be you, assuming you have the potential for that in the futre.
are the timelines clearly different though? archer did recognize saber after all. And lets be honest, archer wasn't exactly happy with the way things turned out
Just my 2 cents, since shirous all about creating stuff he likely got a better feel for how archer makes his stuff.
as for the sheath being in shrious, thats touched more upon in the fate stay night route.
how is the servants not getting a wish a bad thing from a writing perspective?

look at it this way, dop we really need every little details spoonfed to us? what about the whole go for the ride and make inferences where needed

That only works if the ride is actually interesting. Code Geass certainly had just as many twists and big action scenes as UBW does, but there was also tons of interesting and charistmatic characters, mystery, intrigue, suspense and romance tossed in - and they were all executed well. Fancy action scenes and a fun premise are all well and good, but they're nothing if the characters and story don't sell them, don't make you care about what the results of that action scene are. Geass did it. TTGL did it. Heck, Kekkai Sensen and Assassination Classroom are basically doing it right now, too.

Or look at Magi - a show where the main character and all the villains are constantly pulling off feats that are literally explained away as 'magic', but it works because you don't really care *how* the antagonist can turn someone into a demonic space bat, you care about the character who was turned into a demonic space bat and how the other characters are going to deal with this sudden problem, etc. You get invested in a huge cast with varied capabilities, feelings, allegiances, backgrounds and how they come together is what invests you in the fight scenes, and what makes the out-of-nowhere twists thrilling.

UBW has only two real characters - Shiro and Rin. One of them is more naive than a 4-year old and repeatedly does stupid things that *should* get him killed numerous times (according to what the show and other characters keeps telling the audience) but doesn't. The other is an irrational, bipolar, tsundere stereotype to end all tsundere stereotypes. Every other character has had almost zero screen time and no development other than last-minute blatant exposition before they die. So Shiro and Rin need to carry this show, and they fail miserably at it. Even the romance between them is atrocious, and you'd think that would be pretty high on the studio's priorities given how important it seems to be and how invested they seem to be in following the VN to the letter minus the sex scenes (I presume that's what those magic sperm pods were metaphors for? So subtle...). Dear god I hope the VN had better chemistry than < "I'm going to transfer to you my magic crest. Take off your clothes." *5 minutes of awkward staring* *Rin gently touches Shiro's chest* *magic sperm pods metaphor* *5 more minutes of awkward staring and angry tsundering* fin. >

If it were a better show (and/or source material) you could spend all that time spent desperately trying to explain to the audience that the latest twist totally makes sense even though there was no foreshadowing or lead up to it at all on actually having likeable characters, some chemistry, and more sensical story-planning than "oh wow, the bad guys sat on their asses for 3 days doing nothing and just so happened to show up at this place at the same time as us!"

I feel like all this "but wait, the Grail is actually cursed! Now let me read to you the wiki article on the events that took place 80 years before now!" is a sign of poor quality. If the writing and characterization were better, there would be no need for the show to feel like it must explain things so rigourously (like the other shows I listed above).

As for just enjoying the ride? Well, IMO, even the fight scenes have not really been that good, except for the Archer-Lancer fight in the first (second?) episode and the Berserker-Sabre fight early on. All the recent ones have been just swing-talk-swing-talk-talk-repeat or shoot-dodge-shoot-dodge-swing-dodge-repeat. Comparing them to Fate/Zero just makes it worse.

In summary, I've definitely been feeling a lot of "This is it? THIS is what everyone has been so hyped up for?" about it and highly suspect the really intense VN fans have been putting too much hype into this one, and it's gotten contagious.


Or maybe I'm just a grumpypants. I finished Kill la Kill last week and didn't think it lives up to its hype either...

The Hust Legion, on 08 June 2015 - 06:55 PM, said:

flicking love shokugeki no soma, its right up my street, bonkers enough to be entertaining and serious enough not to be cringeworthy and also like the fact how they went in a different direction in terms of the episode, seeing yukihira overcome every single damn thing in his path without having his confidence smashed would have gotten stale after a while, but this episode makes things a little interesting.

...but then Shokugei no Souma (and AC, and Arslan, and Kekkai Sensen, ...) has me so excited again that I am convinced I am right!

Yukihira really is pretty overpowered though, isn't he? Looking back, being all rational and all, he seems more invincible than Goku, no? I'd say it's a testament to this show's writing and execution that even though the worst he's had is a single tie, the other chefs still seem like a credible threat. I'm soooo excited for the next episode after his most recent exploit...

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Challenging an alumni to Shokugeki?! MADNESS! I knew he'd find a way to save Megumi, but I still did not see that coming! Just the way he whispered "Shokugeki" with the background all lit up was chilling.

But c'mon, Megumi can't be expelled, we all know he's going to win this!

Definitely a case of it being more about the fun of the journey than the end, because you pretty much know he's going to win at everything anyways.

Still, it's interesting to look at how they've created that ambience compared to other shows. I think one of the most important differences is that the various rival chefs are not just one-at-a-time challenges, nor even all blatant antagonists. They could have just had him challenge the elite 10 one-by-one, but instead you've got a wide assortment of challengers popping up all over, some of them friendly and on a level playing field while others are more 'evil' and in authority. He hasn't even dueled Erina yet, and she was the first major challenger presented. It's a great structural approach, especially given that the show (or at least the manga) is long - it will avoid the "a new evil appears!" effect at the end of each arc.

[Silencer]

Yeah, I definitely expected more from ufotable than this. Heck, I'm a fan of the series and the studio and I am disappoint. The comparison to Kill la Kill might be a little bit harsh (that show made me drop it after one epidode) but it definitely has a similar disparity between expectations and reality.

I might have to hate ufotable a little bit if they don't do a better job on Heaven's Feel. which sucks because they're an awesome studio.

[The Hust Legion]

yeah like i noticed a while back he's not gonna be stopped, i mean FT is my fave anime so OP characters I'm used to but even then they get beat to shit first till the "power of friendship" kicks in here nope he's just strolling is way through what is constantly shown as a bloody hell hole, a cut throat culinary school i mean its called a death camp or something like that . and yeah what he did i did not see coming i mean

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he's a god damn alumni if yukihira could only draw with the seventh seat second year how the hell can he beat someone who was probe top 5 in the year and now has pro practice. that being said this anime has surprised me at defying logic in these types of situations i mean couple episodes back he used a bag of crisps as batter, i guess thats the good thing about a cooking anime can be creative so its easier to defy logic without just going " yeah screw that this is an anime normal rules don't apply" also tadakoro is too adorable/nice to get rid of. she's the nice one rather lose some of the other guys from that dorm they seem kinda pointless right now i wanna see a bit more of them

and yeah i like how he can just bump into someone go "shokugeki biatch" and completely forget about everything else. i think with all the seriousness about the culinary school side its refreshing to have a character being ago with the flow kinda guy.

...... also silencer kill la kill i kinda liked the um yeah lack clothing could have been avoided but it was too similar to gurren lagann not to lilke, i don't see why its hyped but i enjoyed watching it, its just a bonkers anime.... the plot is based around sentient clothing. but i watched kill la kill without realising how much hype it had so i didn't have any expectations for it. just saw it was made by the same staff as ttgl and went for it.

also i never liked fate stay night because i watched zero so i found the old stay night a chore to watch and this new one once i got used to the fancy new animation kinda lost interest. but the heavens feel route is the best one and seeing what they did with fate zero i have faith in UBW. i mean the movie they did is literally almost the same as the anime they are doing now. i don't get why they didn't just go straight to heavens feel

[D'rek]

The Hust Legion, on 08 June 2015 - 11:55 PM, said:

yeah like i noticed a while back he's not gonna be stopped, i mean FT is my fave anime so OP characters I'm used to but even then they get beat to shit first till the "power of friendship" kicks in here nope he's just strolling is way through what is constantly shown as a bloody hell hole, a cut throat culinary school i mean its called a death camp or something like that . and yeah what he did i did not see coming i mean

Spoiler

he's a god damn alumni if yukihira could only draw with the seventh seat second year how the hell can he beat someone who was probe top 5 in the year and now has pro practice. that being said this anime has surprised me at defying logic in these types of situations i mean couple episodes back he used a bag of crisps as batter, i guess thats the good thing about a cooking anime can be creative so its easier to defy logic without just going " yeah screw that this is an anime normal rules don't apply" also tadakoro is too adorable/nice to get rid of. she's the nice one rather lose some of the other guys from that dorm they seem kinda pointless right now i wanna see a bit more of them

and yeah i like how he can just bump into someone go "shokugeki biatch" and completely forget about everything else. i think with all the seriousness about the culinary school side its refreshing to have a character being ago with the flow kinda guy.

Yup. It works though. They don't always make Yukihira look like a better chef, often-times they just make him a more creative chef that wins through intelligence against the snobby aristocrats who are less creative. ie I really liked the Shokugeki against meat-girl

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where Yukihira didn't even try to have better ingredients or be a better meat cook than her, because he isn't. He knew his limitations and came up with a better recipe

and then likewise with Aldini

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where Aldini was just as creative (and initially more level-headed) than Yukihira - both of them had very creative designs and ended up drawing. So next time he duels Aldini he can't just get creative like he did with his entrance exam and against meat-girl.

I like that they are going into another Shokugeki this week, it was the only way to resolve this bit of plot and the dramatic build-up of it is awesome, but as the show continues I am hoping Shokugekis are not too common, or at least that Yukihira getting expelled is not usually on the line, because as you say we know the MC is not going to get expelled so any duel where that is on the line we know he will win. But there could definitely be a duel where he does not win somewhere down the line.

Silencer, on 08 June 2015 - 11:20 PM, said:

Yeah, I definitely expected more from ufotable than this. Heck, I'm a fan of the series and the studio and I am disappoint. The comparison to Kill la Kill might be a little bit harsh (that show made me drop it after one epidode) but it definitely has a similar disparity between expectations and reality.

I might have to hate ufotable a little bit if they don't do a better job on Heaven's Feel. which sucks because they're an awesome studio.

I'm not making a quality-comparison of F/SN/UBW and KlK, just saying both were massively hyped by their fanbases and both disappointed me.

Hard to say if it is worth hating ufotable. You never know for sure how these things are being made behind the scenes - maybe ufotable's contract was very specific about some of this stuff (like they weren't allowed to modify anything from the VN even the slightest, perhaps?). In any case, you can still like a studio while acknowledging they have a flop. Trigger definitely isn't perfect in my books after Kill la Kill and Ninja Slayer, but I still loved TTGL and Inou-Battles so anything they make is still a must-watch-the-first-3-episodes-at-least for now.

The Hust Legion, on 08 June 2015 - 11:55 PM, said:

...... also silencer kill la kill i kinda liked the um yeah lack clothing could have been avoided but it was too similar to gurren lagann not to lilke, i don't see why its hyped but i enjoyed watching it, its just a bonkers anime.... the plot is based around sentient clothing. but i watched kill la kill without realising how much hype it had so i didn't have any expectations for it. just saw it was made by the same staff as ttgl and went for it.

Kill la Kill to me is basically Gurren Lagann done wrong. They're both over-the-top silly action animes, but in KlK that's basically all there was to it, while TTGL had drama, romance, mystery, suspense and TONS of theme, all executed very well. None of the ideas KlK was juggling about ever really came together in a meaningful way, and the lack of substance to the whole thing was palpable. The last 5 episodes are just a huge cycle of:

*fight baddie, lose*
*we just need to fight HARDER*
*fight baddie again, win*
*baddie reveals their TRUE FORM/backup genocide option*
*repeat*

and the characters have almost nothing to say to each other. The bad guys just say different versions of "Give up now, you cannot defeat me THIS TIME!" over and over, and Matoi's comebacks are literally just "Bitch, shut up I'm going to kill you now!"

Compare that to the lines from the finale of TTGL:

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Anti-Spiral: "How can this be? Where are you drawing all of this power from?"
Simon: "We evolve beyond the person we were a minute before! Little by little, we advance a bit further with each turn. That's how a drill works!"
Anti-Spiral: "That is the path that leads to extinction. Why can't you see the pathetic limitation of the Spiral race?"
Simon: "No, that's YOUR limitation! You sit here, closed-off, locking away other lifeforms like some kind of king! That's nobody's limitation but your own!"

IMO, a huuuuuuge difference between the two shows!

I don't think it would fix all its problems, but I think Kill la Kill would have been a lot better off as a 1-cour series. There's a lot of needless repetition and unnecessary episodes/content that could have been trimmed down, and the small amount of substance would not be so evident in the shorter run-time.

[LinearPhilosopher]

I was a pretty big fan of kill la kill personally. But that's because satsuki kiryuin is basically the overman or trying to become the overman. The only reason i enjoyed that series. IT was also incredibly overhyped. Part of the reason it was overhyped was the fact it was realsed near the end of a rather dry patch of anime.

TTGL was far more nieztschean though, the man of the earth, using the tools of the earth rising up to punch god in the face and throw away all limits. I could go on.

@d'rek alright, now that you've laid out your argumentation better i can see why you're frustrated with the show. I can agree with you on most of your points ill be honest.

For me i came into FSN with zero expectations, like i do with all but one franchise (GITS and its new OVAS)so i guess i simply haven't been as criticial of the show.

[The Hust Legion]

oh yeah i completely agree kill la kill is nowhere near TTGL level. no where near, there's moments in TTGL than just indescribable like the ending you mentioned drek it was mother muffin BONKERS as hell i mean

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galaxy sized robots throwing galaxies at each other you don't get much over the top batshit crazy action than that

but idk i mean theres something about kill la kill i very very nearly dropped it but then that spark of craziness that was in ttgl began to show. i just think they put much less thought into kill la kill it was just meant to be adrenaline fuelled ride from start to finish i mean I'm pretty sure once we saw that

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the main rebels were all nudists and their guerrilla force was called nudist beach and the powers stemmed from blood sucking vampire clothes that looked more in place in a goddamn hentai

i kinda figured out "yeah they never gave a shit about plot" it had the same like "the people will rise" concept just done in a way more immature nonsensical way. i mean I've seen infinite stratos and that was a bloody abomination. therefore i conclude trigger made kill la kill and thought "how the hell do we put a serious spin on this?" they couldn't and thats why you font get any of the serious themes or romance mystery suspense that was in ttgl.

also quick question... sub or dub?

This post has been edited by The Hust Legion: 10 June 2015 - 09:28 PM

[LinearPhilosopher]

only seen KLK subbed.

KLK does have oen redeming feature. Best recap episode in existence

[Nicodimas]

Re-starting Steins;gate..cant remember it....

....not certain if that's me being forgetful..or the Company's objective

hmmm.

[The Hust Legion]

FT had a 7 min recap at the start of the episode... 7 mins more than a quarter of the episode (including openings and ending) also theres a certain magic missing from FT that hasn't been present since the grand magic games ended. idk what it is but it's early days yet but it looks like FT is trying to put a serious tone on the arc which yeah they shouldn't do...doesnt appear to be working in the anime (worked in the manga) but yeah the current arc is the most serious and probably the best content wise but with the revitalised animation and just the seriousness of the arc its lost some of the just " screw it we're FT go with the flow" kinda feel which i liked the most. but again its like 5 episodes into the arc THE PACE IS DAMN QUICK. so early days hope to see that special something return to the anime.

this weeks shokugeki WAS BETTER THAN I ANTICIPATED i mean

Spoiler

the route they took i did not expect. making tadokoro the lead chef was a great idea shows the versatility of the mc and takes the spot light off the mc too which i really quite like about this anime, the MC is still the main focus but it doesn't forget that there are other characters around, it allows couple characters to pop in, also i liked tadakoro before (I'm a sucker for the nice happy characters) this episode added another dimension to her character, because we haven't really seen her perform so the fact that the episode headed in this direction was good. but i think they will ultimately lose to the alumni so its interesting to see how they deal with that. but yeah a good episode twas slightly missing the yukihira factor which i missed a little but i didn't mind. the twist made up for it. also dojima is one scary bastard.

so yeah good episode I FINALLY FINISH EFFIN EXAMS ON WEDNESDAY MAN I AM GONNA BINGE ANIME LIKE NEVER BEFORE. like shokugeki is the only form of like tv I've watched in weeks well one episode of grimm. gonna binge on HxH first then see what happens from there might rewatch fairy tail.

[D'rek]

The Hust Legion, on 14 June 2015 - 10:38 PM, said:

FT had a 7 min recap at the start of the episode... 7 mins more than a quarter of the episode (including openings and ending) also theres a certain magic missing from FT that hasn't been present since the grand magic games ended. idk what it is but it's early days yet but it looks like FT is trying to put a serious tone on the arc which yeah they shouldn't do...doesnt appear to be working in the anime (worked in the manga) but yeah the current arc is the most serious and probably the best content wise but with the revitalised animation and just the seriousness of the arc its lost some of the just " screw it we're FT go with the flow" kinda feel which i liked the most. but again its like 5 episodes into the arc THE PACE IS DAMN QUICK. so early days hope to see that special something return to the anime.

The show has been going for so long now, doing something different like a much more serious arc is probably needed to keep the show fresh. But that only works if it is done well.

The Hust Legion, on 14 June 2015 - 10:38 PM, said:

this weeks shokugeki WAS BETTER THAN I ANTICIPATED i mean

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the route they took i did not expect. making tadokoro the lead chef was a great idea shows the versatility of the mc and takes the spot light off the mc too which i really quite like about this anime, the MC is still the main focus but it doesn't forget that there are other characters around, it allows couple characters to pop in, also i liked tadakoro before (I'm a sucker for the nice happy characters) this episode added another dimension to her character, because we haven't really seen her perform so the fact that the episode headed in this direction was good. but i think they will ultimately lose to the alumni so its interesting to see how they deal with that. but yeah a good episode twas slightly missing the yukihira factor which i missed a little but i didn't mind. the twist made up for it. also dojima is one scary bastard.

We're talking Episode 11 of Shokugemi no Souma, for anyone else reading the thread (or future reading and not wanting to cross-reference the dates)

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I don't think they're going to lose. Especially not now that Dojima put Yukihira getting expelled on the line. I think they are setting up with Shinomiya not using his signature dish and Dojima's thoughts of Shinomiya arrogantly assuming the students had no chance to make a result of Megumi+Yukihira winning, but implying that Shinomiya would have won if he'd taken it more seriously.

But yeah, Dojima insisting that Megumi be the lead chef was a great move and I think is what will give her some confidence going forward so she isn't reliant on Yukihira to get through her classes anymore, and thus doesn't need to be always acting as his sidekick anymore. Structurally, it is a great move, it makes for a very natural breaking of the Yukihira+Megumi structure and allows her to continue as an established character but mix up the cast interactions and bring in more characters going forward. ie we can have Yukihira get paired up with someone else in another class.

Hard to say for sure, but it seemed like Dojima recognized the Yukihira name, too. I bet it will turn out that Dojima and Yukihira's dad are acquainted (quite possibly they attended Totsuki together).

Magic Cabbage was great, too.

[The Hust Legion]

im liking the comedy hinako brought to the episode she's great. MORE HINAKO. but hmmm i don't think yukihiras dad went to totsuki someone that good of a chef someone would have recognised him if he went to totsuki. although now i think about it you could be right. I think his dad is a rogue chef someone who's good but not allied with totsuki which currently it seems like if you're not an alumni from totsuki you arent a top chef, so someone luke his dad would stick out. i imagine theres gonna be uproar once people figure out who his dad is.

[D'rek]

The Hust Legion, on 16 June 2015 - 06:22 PM, said:

im liking the comedy hinako brought to the episode she's great. MORE HINAKO. but hmmm i don't think yukihiras dad went to totsuki someone that good of a chef someone would have recognised him if he went to totsuki. although now i think about it you could be right. I think his dad is a rogue chef someone who's good but not allied with totsuki which currently it seems like if you're not an alumni from totsuki you arent a top chef, so someone luke his dad would stick out. i imagine theres gonna be uproar once people figure out who his dad is.

Hmm, hard to say. I really want to know more about what his dad did before Soma (Soma is his given name and Yukihira is the family name, right? This show seems to use them a bit unconventionally, or maybe it is just the subs) was born. Consider that {a} Soma's dad said the trick to becoming a great chef was to find a woman you want to impress with your cooking, and {b} Soma's mom is in some way out of the picture, I could see his backstory being something along the lines that he was a great student at Totsuki (and as previously mentioned, I'll bet a classmate of Dojima) but after a very short bit of travelling (enough to get the reputation we saw when he went back to the USA) he retired to just run the Yukihira diner - maybe because Soma's mom died, or it was her dream, or something like that. And as such, he never garnered the sort of reputation that Shinomiya or Dojima did because he left the spotlight, but people from Totsuki (particularly the staff or his own generation of classmates) would know of him and know how skilled he is.

[D'rek]

I'm still watching and enjoying Hibike!Euphonium, it's really interesting seeing some differences in how hardcore Japanese high school bands are, and all the band politics nostalgia. And yeah, the art is breathtakingly beautiful. Still, it's not *that* good, especially because I don't think the plot is going to go really far in the last couple episodes they have left.

What IS really entertaining is reading the MAL/reddit comments after each episode, though! Seems there's a lot of people out there desperate for the two main female characters to hook up, and reading their frustrated/humourous commentary in that light is amusing.

I sincerely doubt there is any chance of such a relationship developing in the show, and there's even been some pretty strong indicators that that definitely WON'T happen. Still, I can't really blame those who are jumping to that conclusion when the show is doing shots and dialogue like this! Oh KyoAni you tease

(epi 11 - not a major spoiler)

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[D'rek]

You know what's a totally minor little thing but I really, really, REALLY LOVE?! When animes randomly mimic famous real people in situations where it is completely tangential and unimportant that they did so, but they just felt like it anyway!


Examples you say? How about Pavarotti duck:
(spoilered for size - not actually spoilers!)

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Or how about Meika MacArthur General:

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[LinearPhilosopher]

so summer anime anyone have any series they will be scoping out
https://www.livechar.../summer-2015/tv

Durara s2, part 2 is coming, needless to say i think we'll all be watching that.

Gangsta>its seinen so i know it won't do any stupid awkward teen stuff. Im getting a black lagoon vibe from this show which remains one of my favourite animes.

Chaos Dragon: Sekiryuu Senyaku: premise is kinda old but it can still be well executed. Valkyria chronicles does the same yet im loving the hell out of that game.

Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakeri: could be good, could be shit, time will tell.

God Eater: so its basically the same setting as attack on titan or owari no seraph... I think im starting too see a trend here. Are post apocalyptic shounens becoming the new moe craze of the early 2010s?

Overlord:guy trapped in a videogame world epcept plotwist, hes the only one there and all the npcs are starting to become real. Seems like wish fufillment for mmo people. Might give it a glance

So aside from durara s2 theres nothing thats leaping out at me screaming this is gona be awesome but there is potential

Also, http://sfdebris.com/...karebellion.php
Madoka Magica rebellion review, hell yeah!

This post has been edited by BalrogLord: 19 June 2015 - 02:33 AM

[D'rek]

BalrogLord, on 19 June 2015 - 02:08 AM, said:

Durara s2, part 2 is coming, needless to say i think we'll all be watching that.

YUP!!!!!!!! This is the only one I know for sure I'm going to watch so far.

BalrogLord, on 19 June 2015 - 02:08 AM, said:

Gangsta>its seinen so i know it won't do any stupid awkward teen stuff. Im getting a black lagoon vibe from this show which remains one of my favourite animes.

I don't really know anything about this except the synopsis, but it seems like it might turn out okay. Manglobe doesn't have any series in their backlog that I've really liked, though, so not getting my hopes up yet. At the least it will be something different from all the shounen and high
school SoLs.

BalrogLord, on 19 June 2015 - 02:08 AM, said:

Chaos Dragon: Sekiryuu Senyaku: premise is kinda old but it can still be well executed. Valkyria chronicles does the same yet im loving the hell out of that game.

Going to pass on this, but check out how well it's been received around the 6-episode mark and if it is getting high praise will catch up.

BalrogLord, on 19 June 2015 - 02:08 AM, said:

Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakeri: could be good, could be shit, time will tell.

It *sounds* like it will be a really smart, grounded take on the gate-to-a-fantasy-world trope, but we'll have to see it to be sure. A-1 Pictures is hard to predict, and smart, grounded fantasy/sci-fi isn't exactly their forte. I'm going to check it out and see when it starts.

BalrogLord, on 19 June 2015 - 02:08 AM, said:

God Eater: so its basically the same setting as attack on titan or owari no seraph... I think im starting too see a trend here. Are post apocalyptic shounens becoming the new moe craze of the early 2010s?

Seems like it, only this one is based on a video game (I think?) and being done by UFOtable. The character designs look intentionally ridiculous, with everyone having enormously oversized weapons. Maybe this will be silly fun camp, in which case I could see UFOtable rocking it with amazing fights and graphics every week. If the plot is actually relevant, I'm not so sure.

BalrogLord, on 19 June 2015 - 02:08 AM, said:

Overlord:guy trapped in a videogame world epcept plotwist, hes the only one there and all the npcs are starting to become real. Seems like wish fufillment for mmo people. Might give it a glance

Yeah, sounds like single-player Log Horizon. It's studio Madhouse though, so worth checking out to see.




In addition, I'm going to be checking out:

++Rokka no Yuusha - I like the premise of this (seven heroes show up instead of the foretold six, and so they all assume one of them must be the enemy), could be interesting.

++Ushio to Tora - studio Mappa seems to be really hitting their stride lately, so I have to at least check this one out. It's always hard to tell in advance when a show has both the Comedy and Shounen tags how much of each it's really going to be, so not sure what to expect on this yet.

++Akagami no Shirayuki-hime (Snow White with the Red Hair) - I haven't read the manga this is based on, but I recall hearing some really big praise for it somewhere a while ago. Supposed to be a sort of Cinderella-esque fairy tale type of story but with heaps of common sense added in, more relatable characters and an actual focus on building the relationship, not just triggering it with a magic sock. Only thing that bugs me so far is that I had looked up a bunch of the amazing artwork from the manga, but the anime animation looks like it is going to be noticeably plainer... that probably can't be helped though and I'm sure I'll get used to it after a few episodes.




Definitely NOT planning to watch:

Makura no Danshi (synopsis: 1st-person perspective with a new boy sleeping next to the audience each episode. The boys all live in the same town underneath a starry sky. Each of the "makura no danshi" will star his own weekly episode as they "sleep beside you and whisper.")

[LinearPhilosopher]

"+Rokka no Yuusha - I like the premise of this (seven heroes show up instead of the foretold six, and so they all assume one of them must be the enemy), could be interesting. "

Dammit i forgot to mention this, this actually looks promising thanks d'rek

Btw is anyone here big on amvs? I've a couple in my favourites folder i go back to time and again.

This post has been edited by BalrogLord: 19 June 2015 - 10:30 PM

[D'rek]

Silencer, on 26 January 2012 - 02:28 AM, said:

HOLY FUCKING HELL. I AM CURRENTLY WATCHING 'CLANNAD' (MORE SPECIFICALLY THE SECOND SEASON, SUBTITLED 'AFTER STORY'). WHY IS THIS NOT NAMED "TEARJERKING: THE ANIME"? WHY IS THERE NOT AN EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER WARNING LABEL ALL OVER THIS THING?!??!? ARGH! BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWww



I kid you not, so far this anime has ACTUALLY MADE ME CRY at least once. Motherfucker. Silencer's emotional development program? Complete. O>o

I think... I think I just got to this^^ episode. I so, so, so desperately hope I am wrong. That this episode is not going to end the way I think it is...

edit:

Spoiler

It was. Damnit damnit damnit DAMNIT!!! Time to go find a hug

[LinearPhilosopher]

D, on 22 June 2015 - 02:59 AM, said:

Silencer, on 26 January 2012 - 02:28 AM, said:

HOLY FUCKING HELL. I AM CURRENTLY WATCHING 'CLANNAD' (MORE SPECIFICALLY THE SECOND SEASON, SUBTITLED 'AFTER STORY'). WHY IS THIS NOT NAMED "TEARJERKING: THE ANIME"? WHY IS THERE NOT AN EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER WARNING LABEL ALL OVER THIS THING?!??!? ARGH! BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWww



I kid you not, so far this anime has ACTUALLY MADE ME CRY at least once. Motherfucker. Silencer's emotional development program? Complete. O>o

I think... I think I just got to this^^ episode. I so, so, so desperately hope I am wrong. That this episode is not going to end the way I think it is...

edit:

Spoiler

It was. Damnit damnit damnit DAMNIT!!! Time to go find a hug

Let the tears flow.

This post has been edited by BalrogLord: 22 June 2015 - 05:28 AM