[Path-Shaper]

Okaros is pretty honest with himself...

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 09:58 AM, said:

Can I have a morale update please, just so I know

I thought I was down and out, I didn't know that i'd form some good alliances. By Eloth allying himself with me and I alliancing myself with Ruse and Kara I did a good thing to start with. However, by breaking alliance with Kara and forging one with Serc I cemented myself in the top 5 people, now I know there is a bit of work, we still have majority but I do not know what the relationship is like between Serc and Alkend/Ano. That is why one of them has to leave on the next vote off to be certain of victory. (by victory I mean lasting to the end, i do not think I am strong enough to win it)

DKT is pleased.

Anomandaris, on 04 May 2011 - 02:53 PM, said:

So i got that permanent bonus for voting liosan right?



anyways...


Sabotage please!

Serc keeps an eye on her allies.

Serc, on 04 May 2011 - 03:05 PM, said:

Today, I monitor the PM-ing habits of Merrid and Karatallid!

[Path-Shaper]

Karat confronts Tulas, but is he telling the truth in his speculation?

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 06:06 AM, said:

im guessing from that you voted for serc that last time, considering your disagrement(unless your just pretending to have an argument and your really one his side)

so ill tell you that im pretty sure eloth and okaros voted for Lio, at least thats what im thinking

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 12:59 PM, said:

Well, they both admitted it on thread, and gave their reasons. I dont see that there is anything to do about it but stick together until the D's are gone and then take care of them.

Vengey is pleased and tells Tapper, who responds.

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

Well now that was a good result.

Eloth, on 04 May 2011 - 08:05 AM, said:

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

Well now that was a good result.

Heh, yeah.

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

Well now that was a good result.

Venge says he's still on board with Bent.

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 11:51 AM, said:

I am still with the 3 of you.

Tattersail discusses with Vengey the next vote off.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 09:55 AM, said:

So what are your thoughts for the next person to leave? I am thinking between, Kara, Ano or Alkey, obviously I just voted off one of my own so there is trust. I do believe we are in a voting block off epic proportios You and Serc and my guy over here, maybe another 1 or 2 for now. It is us 4 though that will make it to the end. So what are your thoughts?

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 02:18 PM, said:

Well getting rid of ano on my side if he ever loses a challenge or kara on yours.

Ano will be tough to get because I think that he might have an hi or something. But that also makes him a prime target. Kara because he us tough and silencer who good.

Really they are the top two to go. But lynching either one might be a trick. So it might have to be alkend.

[Path-Shaper]

Tapper and Tatter discuss their late-game strategy. Note Tapper's already done with Backstabbing, he wants jury votes in the end. Both acknowledge Serc is a threat to win. I agree.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 07:00 AM, said:

How are we going to play the next vote off? Who is on your radar? I am thinking that we need to maintain a voting block, but also the upper hand so it has to be a Dureza, I am thinking Ano or Alkend, what are your thoughts?

Eloth, on 04 May 2011 - 08:04 AM, said:

Okaros, on 03 May 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

We look to vote off Anomandaris or the other one beginning with A next. So that leaves you, me Ts and Merrid and Serc in our main 5 alliance. The other one we have is Ruse, he doesn't seem to trust Kara, so Ruse will vote with us next. Will Merrid and Serc be up to voting off Ano or Alkend? If not we get Pensador to vote off a dureza again united as it stands? I am off to get some z's but let me know your thoughts

I would not be against voting united as Pensador again if we can forge that unity. To make certain whether or not this works and to come clear, I typed a massive response admitting I voted Lio and why in Groupthink - I'm kinda done with all that backstabby stuff. Either we remain united, or we split (in which case I will formalize that by opening group chat with Serc, Merrid, TS, you and me. I think we can see enough to make up our minds by the reactions from the other Pensadores today.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 09:47 AM, said:

You may have done his a bit prematurely, this means that Ruse, Kara, Alkey and Ano can unite. Oops we have majority I did not realise, the only backstabbing I can see would be Serc killing off one of us with the help of ano or alkend so that there will be a final 4. When the time comes for it just to be us 5 then Serc will be the main threat to all of us and will then have to go. However are we going to vote Ano next?

Tattersail has taken advantage of her second chance... she's almost running the show now! How many deals is he making to go to the finals? Here's one with Ruse.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

So you tell Kara that we still have the 3 of us? It sounds like he is working against us or with other people. Tell him we are on board. I am thinking Ano for the next target, what say you?

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 09:49 AM, said:

Let me know when you are back online, we have much to discuss. I want to see you there to the end, we will need to be careful, I think Ano or alkend go next, then kara, then ano or alkend whoever didn't go last time, then serc which leaves a final four. Thoughts?

Bent is just playing along with me.

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 01:00 PM, said:

well, then I want to use my campfire. Gotta keep warm on these lonely nights, since everyone thinks I am a guy, I must be an ugly chick.

Tapper and D'rek talk over the results.

Eloth, on 04 May 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

Well, that was the result we wanted.

Serc, on 04 May 2011 - 02:44 PM, said:

Yup, looks like everyone but Ruse, Karat and Lio voted for Lio, so that's good. Karat is not a happy camper now...

Accusations fly in the Cadre Groupthink.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 06:26 AM, said:

Or someone on their team already has the immunity idol? Did Jeff send your idol straight away? Eloth said Serc was suspicious he may have looked for it or got one of his team to look for it. Either way we cannot let the D's vote the next player out, we got to stand united and target one of their players.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 06:35 AM, said:

why did we let them oust Liosan?

why wernt we united then?

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 06:38 AM, said:

see why would serc tell eloth he was suspicious, eloth had noting to do with this plan, so why were they talking about it....

DING DING DING, Okaros shows a flash of genius! He clearly realizes that the idol could have been viewed as a fake and that Ano is a threat due to the morale!

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 06:38 AM, said:

see why would serc tell eloth he was suspicious, eloth had noting to do with this plan, so why were they talking about it....

I just typed a massive reply and it disappeared. Something like this...

I am not sure because I do not have an alliance with Serc but I think it would be to do with timing. Ruse had just handed Jeff he immunity idol and before the next challenge you offer her one. Again i'm not sure but I think Jeff will give people an equal amount of time to get their actions in. I think I would be suspicious if the member of the opposite team handed me an imunity idol too.

Are we sure that they all know about the fake? Could it not be worked on Anomandaris or Alkend? For the next vote i'm leaning towards an Anomandaris vote as he is a) excelling at challenges giving us negative morale (this is just a hunch based on challenge performance).

Eloth, on 04 May 2011 - 07:59 AM, said:

My vote against Liosan was based on this:

1a) this was the third time I'd have been forced to vote of an ally (after Fener, Gamelon and now Serc). Now, this is doubly hard because my challenge performance is tied directly to my amount of allies (which I have mentioned), and everyone likes rewards or immunity, no?
Each time, I asked for an alternative or offered one in time, but none of these suggestions was picked up, with hardly a discussion despite me having been connected to all of you (except Lio). I know there have been difficulties with communication before, but I have made PB wait several times before making my vote.
Now, once or twice sacrificing something for the greater good I can accept. But all in all, it cabn't help but make me feel like a second-rate partner, or just a voting extension of your will.

1b) who to vote for is seldom discussed by all members of the alliance, if I scroll through my inbox.

2) Kara mentioned the exchange-lists of who'd go to the final with whom on thread without letting me know whether this was a fake or not, if not, who was on it, how far you were willing to play it, who you had contact with - though that was information worth spreading and could have aided building smokescreens. Even now the contacts I had with Dureza and the decision to vote Liosan were less specific than making a list like that.

3) Now add to that the fact that Kara-Ruse-Lio has been a troika since the start... I started to feel uncomfortable with that a while ago, You three were imho too dominant and too tight within our larger alliance. With two of you left, I hope we can have more open discussions and decide stuff together rather than feeling I'm a pinchhitter who's allowed to step unto the pitch around voting time.

So yeah, I voted Liosan. Does not have to be the end of unity as far as I am concerned (although I am aware of the issue that you may not believe me seeing how I admit to having stabbed you guys in the back), but facilitated by the Groupthink and the fact that there are now five of us with no real inner circle anymore, we can have a slightly more equal discussion of strategy.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 09:53 AM, said:

I also voted for Liosan, I said as much throughout the process, I hinted at it on tribal council twice. I agree with the Kara-Ruse-Lio Triangle and now there isn't one.

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 12:56 PM, said:

You idiots. The timing for pulling a stunt like that was terrible for us. Not only does it make the rest of us wary that the D's will vote off another Pen member, and then we may be screwed. I get the whole Lio, Ruse, and Kara conspiracy theory, but we need to stick together and vote them all off, after that we can back-bite and stab each other from the shadows.

[Path-Shaper]

Tattersail shares his clue... but it's way past the point of being useful.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 04:41 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 May 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

Your morale is currently 'poor' but I didn't process any actions yet.

The clue you won gives you a +2 Bonus to Search for Hidden Immunity Idol rolls. You may keep this clue to yourself or share it with others, if you wish, although if you share it, those people who you shared it with also can share it.

I'll share this with Ruse, Eloth, Tulas Shorn and Merrid please. Can I do this, will you let them know I am sharing it with them?

Venge asking me some Qs.

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:

Use boost moral before the elimination challenge.

I want it on the record that 90% of the game I have played on my phone... Me and dkt... Whoop there it is...

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 04:42 PM, said:

Can you tell me if the HI idol will be able to be played in the final 3. Or is there a time when it cones out of the game. This obviously afects my game plans.

Path-Shaper, on 04 May 2011 - 04:45 PM, said:

I cannot tell you when, but it is not playable at the last tribal council. Sometime between then and now it will no longer be able to be used.

Tatter tells Venge about the shared clue.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 04:49 PM, said:

I have shared the hidden immunity idol clue with you, you can share it with serc if you like, I will raise morale by one, if you do the same then if you do not find it we should be at the same morale as we are now if ano doesn't hit us with a negative morale hit.

Ruse, too. Is he sharing with everyone?! lol

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 04:50 PM, said:

I have shared the hidden immunity idol clue with you, you can share it with Kara if you like, I will raise morale by one too. Will Kara also Raise morale?

And Tapper.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 04:52 PM, said:

I have shared the hidden immunity idol clue with you, you can share it with serc if you like. Are you going to search for it? I do not see the need for it if we are ina voting block we should be okay. I didn't know all your allies have snuffed it, you best not be a curse Have you thought who to vote next? I think mentioning it early will help us if the other person can make us silent

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 May 2011 - 04:53 PM

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Venge indicates he may show the clue to Serc.

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

Dude thanks. I might show it serc. If I do I will let you know.

Ruse wastes no time sharing with Karat.

Ruse, on 04 May 2011 - 06:02 PM, said:

share the clue with karatallid

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 May 2011 - 06:06 PM

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Lizra tells Tattersail he wants to see Anomandaris and Eloth on the block.

Ruse, on 04 May 2011 - 06:35 PM, said:

I'm here, but tired as hell.

Ano as next target is fine with me.
The next Pensador I want to see gone is Eloth. His abilities are more dangerous than Karas.

I think Eloth might be listening in on me and Kara, so I will have to be careful what to say to him.
I have send Kara the Idol clue to show him that we are with him.

[Path-Shaper]

Tat seems fine that Venge wants to show the idol.

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 07:26 PM, said:

Okay that's fine, he is in our alliance after all.

Venge talks to me.

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 07:49 PM, said:

Ok then I will have to plan on using my fake sooner rather then later.

Spoiler shit :

If Kara is also a lv 4 survivor then I need to get rid of him before I go to use it. What would be the best way to use it I wonder. Should I make it and then give it to someone setting them up for a lynch. Doing so would definitely cost me that vote if I made it to the finals. Or I could make it and then use it to bluff someone into voting for someone else. But I would only have to do that if I thought that I was going to be betrayed and voted out. But it is all contingent on getting rid of Kara...

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

God I bet that SH is fucking epic. It will probably take a week to read through it. Should probably put a couple of power points together so that everyone can see who everyone else was fucking allied with at which time. Fucking epic.

PB I do think that you should have given us more time to try to get alliances after the easter weekend. But that might be because since then we have been playing from the low stack.


Strange that I Okaros thinks that the HI clue would give me a moral boost too. I feel sorry for him a bit. Seems like he is the least blood thirsty among us. So if I have to betray him then it will hurt a bit. Really to get down to the final two is going to involve a shit of work. 7 fucking players are going to have to go home. Almost every single alliance will have to be broken. Then to have those same people decide who is the winner.... Well fuck me. That is irritating.

So far this game. Barghast's move is the fucking best. I mean that was just a awesome ballsy fucking move. Totally locking in D'riss and Kalse as his allies and opening up a spot in the GB for himself. Fuck if Serc every found out and found out that I knew I don't know if he would understand that due to the pure brilliance of the move I couldn't take Barghast out. Those kind of ballsy plays deserve to be rewarded. If he had lasted longer then he would have had a really good shot at MOM.

Path-Shaper, on 04 May 2011 - 08:16 PM, said:

Well, the game's not perfect. Timing will always be considered "poor" for those who missed it and "good" for those who benefited.

Jeff Probst always says that Survivor is an imitation of life: it's not fair and the most deserving person doesn't always win.

Venge lays out a thought process to D'rek.

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

Well we got the lio vote that we needed. Now we need to decide what we are going to do. That was a good move. It totally broke up the Ponders alliance. I figure that things stand like this.

3 ponders - Eloth, Tulas, Okaros

2 Ponders - Kara, Ruse

4 Durza - You, me, Ano, Alkend


Okaros wants to lynch either Kara, Ano, or Alkend. He says that since they let one of theirs go we should trust that they aren't going to fuck us over, and let one of ours go. Well that will stick us 2 down again...sigh..

Another option is for us to block vote again and to split the ponders votes. Thus evening the game again. Of course if we do that then our new allies will flip out and bale and we will probably end up 4 for 4 again for the vote after. If we could win that show down then we could just vote off the remaining Ponders. However if we lost then they would just vote us off. Both strategies have a lot of gamble to them, and involve betraying people which would cost us votes in the final.
Now if we bring the HI possibilities into it the game changes a bit. for instance if ano does have it. Then could he be persuaded to allow for people to vote for him use it and allow for us to take out someone else. It would be risky but if done right might keep part of the ponders with us while allowing for our block to grow stronger. But that is also a big gamble.

Thoughts?

[Path-Shaper]

Is D'rek ready to cut ties with DKT?

Serc, on 04 May 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

I definitely don't want to give up the upper hand we have now. Sure, they are supposedly fractured, but what's to stop the Pensadors from bonding together after Lio's lynch. Getting it 4D and 4P would be optimal, regardless of the real alliances.

Merrid, on 04 May 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

Now if we bring the HI possibilities into it the game changes a bit. for instance if ano does have it. Then could he be persuaded to allow for people to vote for him use it and allow for us to take out someone else. It would be risky but if done right might keep part of the ponders with us while allowing for our block to grow stronger. But that is also a big gamble.

Thoughts?

I'd be okay with a move like that. The one way to do it is with Ano knowing the plan and letting people vote for him, essentially what Karat just tried but Ano actually has the idol to use on himself instead of me depending on Tulas to use it on me. The other way is to not tell Ano and let him defend himself once he finds out the Pensadors are voting him. The fact that Karat claimed Tulas had one and Ano claims he has one is worrying though. One might be a fake or one of the people is just lying. With that in mind though, probably best to go with letting Ano know ahead of time.

If he's agreeable to it, Eloth and Tulas shouldn't have any trouble convincing Karat, Ruse and Okaros to vote for Ano. I do think we should let Eloth and Tulas into the loop about it though if we go with that idea.

[Path-Shaper]

Tapper tells his groupthink he wants to settle upon a Dureza member now.

Eloth, on 04 May 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:

Which is why I am perfectly OK with collectively deciding on a D member for us all to vote.

He tells D'rek that Karatallid is most certainly unhappy.

Eloth, on 04 May 2011 - 09:53 PM, said:

Nope, he is not. Oh well.

Tapper tells Tat he's not sure he should go looking for the idol.

Eloth, on 04 May 2011 - 09:55 PM, said:

Okaros, on 04 May 2011 - 04:52 PM, said:

I have shared the hidden immunity idol clue with you, you can share it with serc if you like. Are you going to search for it? I do not see the need for it if we are ina voting block we should be okay. I didn't know all your allies have snuffed it, you best not be a curse Have you thought who to vote next? I think mentioning it early will help us if the other person can make us silent

I'll have to ask PB if I take a morale hit before I search... my abilities may allow me to search and not find it without taking the morale penalty, but I'm not 100% sure about that I don't see the need either, but we will have to either quickly reforge P tribe, or continue our alliance with D and hope for the best from them, and Ruse and TS joining us.

Look who else is searching.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 10:17 PM, said:

Search for hidden idol


I can't bold because I'm on my fone, when I get to work in about an hour n half I'd u haven't replied i will bold then

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

We just have to hope for the best now, both okras and eloth are likely to vote out one of us again

However as we are both allied to eloth and that influences his so he will probably leave us alone....until every player left is allied with him.

Remember eloth can see certain members private conversations

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 10:21 PM, said:

But now we are worried that you will do exactly the same thing again

Eloth who did you suggest for a target last time? Im on my phOne so can't really check but the only other target introduced was given by okaros and he said anomandaris who had immunity

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 May 2011 - 10:28 PM

[Path-Shaper]

DKT can't hide his disappointment.

Anomandaris, on 04 May 2011 - 10:46 PM, said:

That reward challenge gave away tonnes of moral. Oh well so much for my negative moral bonus this round... Meh!

Path-Shaper, on 05 May 2011 - 12:58 AM, said:

You didn't really think I would let you run the show all game, did you?!

Bent shares the wealth.

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 10:55 PM, said:

I would like to do the same and share my info to Eloth. And search for the idol please.

Karat talks to Bent.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

We just have to hope for the best now, both okras and eloth are likely to vote out one of us again

However as we are both allied to eloth and that influences his so he will probably leave us alone....until every player left is allied with him.

Remember eloth can see certain members private conversations

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 10:53 PM, said:

yeah, I dont think they will try anything the next TC, as they wont want the D's to overtake and vote them out, but its best to be careful.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 11:39 PM, said:

it all dpends if they still believe in the P v D divide and not a merger of the two

Bent wants to remove Alkend.

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 10:54 PM, said:

Not entirely true, I suggested, and still suggest Alkend. I dont trust him.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 11:40 PM, said:

well im happy voting for alken if he doesnt get immunity, though id rather take down that monster anomandaris

what about the rest of you

[Path-Shaper]

Karatallid gives me some info while he's gone.

Karatallid, on 05 May 2011 - 01:04 AM, said:

i suppose its too much to ask for you to put my vote where ruse votes..

can you make it so that if the group conv i am in makes a decision on who to vote, I follow that?

Search for hidden Immunity Idol

Vengey feels bad and is guilted into sharing the clue.

Merrid, on 05 May 2011 - 01:19 AM, said:

Well bugger now I feel bad. I hadn't planned on sharing my little thing with him. But in for a dime in for a dollar.

I would like to share the HI clue with Serc.

D'rek is amazing. Her graph is pretty accurate. See the players on the fringe? The only one I disagree with is Tulas Shorn.

Serc, on 05 May 2011 - 04:18 AM, said:

You know this game is getting crazy when your guesstimate of the current alliances looks like this:

Bent tries to assuage Roldom.

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 12:59 PM, said:

Well, they both admitted it on thread, and gave their reasons. I dont see that there is anything to do about it but stick together until the D's are gone and then take care of them.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

We just have to hope for the best now, both okras and eloth are likely to vote out one of us again

However as we are both allied to eloth and that influences his so he will probably leave us alone....until every player left is allied with him.

Remember eloth can see certain members private conversations

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 10:53 PM, said:

yeah, I dont think they will try anything the next TC, as they wont want the D's to overtake and vote them out, but its best to be careful.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 11:39 PM, said:

it all dpends if they still believe in the P v D divide and not a merger of the two

Tulas Shorn, on 05 May 2011 - 01:40 AM, said:

My biggest fear is that they take out one of them, then us, then them, then us, etc.

Karatallid, on 05 May 2011 - 02:32 AM, said:

Which is most likely what they plan

D'rek tries to tell Roldom that old alliances don't mean a lot now.

Serc, on 05 May 2011 - 04:09 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 01:34 AM, said:

i thought you had lio picked as one of the end 6? i hadnt noticed that you had switched him for okaros...

well its obvious you have pendasor comprimised, kudos

It's not like Dureza isn't compromised, too (though I did just give Ano some beer... that should count for something!). We're past the point of the old tribes mattering and now it is going to be crazy! I did warn Liosan, for what it was worth... too bad he didn't listen to me (bad for him that is, but good for you)

[Path-Shaper]

DKT knows that idol searches benefit him greatly.

Anomandaris, on 05 May 2011 - 04:19 AM, said:

Well i realised early on that it would not last. Because of the fact that as the game goes on there would be less players and as a result, there would be less negative bonuses... Not my fault every tom dick and harry wants to find the hidden idol every turn!

Tapper gets the clue... again.

Eloth, on 05 May 2011 - 08:06 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 May 2011 - 01:03 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn brings you aside and wants to share some information with you. It's a clue to the Hidden Immunity Idol, but you already have it.

Cheers!

And thanks Bent.

Eloth, on 05 May 2011 - 08:06 AM, said:

Hey, thanks for the Idol tip!

The Eloth Groupthink is talking over the vote plans.

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 11:40 PM, said:

well im happy voting for alken if he doesnt get immunity, though id rather take down that monster anomandaris

what about the rest of you

Tulas Shorn, on 05 May 2011 - 01:40 AM, said:

either is fine with me, I was just pointing out a tiny inconsistency.

Eloth, on 05 May 2011 - 08:05 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 04 May 2011 - 10:54 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 04 May 2011 - 10:21 PM, said:

But now we are worried that you will do exactly the same thing again

Eloth who did you suggest for a target last time? Im on my phOne so can't really check but the only other target introduced was given by okaros and he said anomandaris who had immunity

Not entirely true, I suggested, and still suggest Alkend. I dont trust him.

I agree with this suggestion.

Ruse, on 05 May 2011 - 08:24 AM, said:

I'm fine with both of them.

Bent and Venge exchange pleasantries.

Merrid, on 08 May 2011 - 12:48 AM, said:

Well just to point this out. You posted as Bent over in the temp forum. I of course didn't point it out and yell or anything. Cause I'm like that.

Probably won't start playing the game for real till late sunday at the earliest. Have a good mothers day.

Tulas Shorn, on 08 May 2011 - 03:49 AM, said:

yeah, but theres no reason for anyone to connect me with mafia.

You too, wish Mrs. Venge a happy mothers day, for the first time, from me and Bubba.

Merrid, on 08 May 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

I will.

[Path-Shaper]

Ix3:10 - Each card requires a roll of '10' to stay in. Each card after the third will incur a -1 stacking END penalty (offset by END bonuses). Last player remaining wins. Player who had the 'help' from before will survive a failure once.

Alkend (+2I,+1Solo,+1M) = +4
Anomandaris (+1I,+1Sabo,+1Back,+2M) = +5
Eloth (+1I,+3Lead,+2M) = +6
Karatallid (+5E,+1I,+1Coat,-1M) = 0 (5E)
Okaros (+2E,+1I,+1Solo,+1M) = +3 (2E)
Merrid (+5E,+1I,+2M) = +3 (5E)
Ruse (0M) = 0
Serc (+1I,+4Lead,+2M) = +7
Tulas Shorn (+2E,+2I,+1Solo,0M) = +3 (2E)

Alkend (+4) 10 + 6 + 2 + 4 = 22
Anomandaris (+5) 1 + 5 + 5 + 5 = 16
Eloth (+6) 9 + 9 + 4 + 6 = 28
Karatallid (0) 1 + 2 + 7 = 10
Okaros (+3) 1 + 8 + 4 + 3 = 16
Merrid (+3) 7 + 2 + 2 + 3 = 14
Ruse (0) 8 + 9 + 1 = 18
Serc (+7) 9 + 8 + 9 + 7 = 33
Tulas Shorn (+3) 8 + 6 + 6 + 3 = 23

Alkend (+4) 2 + 9 + 9 + 4 = 24
Anomandaris (+5) 2 + 8 + 4 + 5 = 19
Eloth (+6) 1 + 5 + 4 + 6 = 16
Karatallid (0) 2 + 1 + 10 = 13
Okaros (+3) 10 + 7 + 5 + 3 = 25
Merrid (+3) 3 + 10 + 4 + 3 = 20
Ruse (0) 3 + 10 + 8 = 21
Serc (+7) 9 + 2 + 2 + 7 = 20
Tulas Shorn (+3) 1 + 7 + 3 + 3 = 14

Alkend (+4) 6 + 4 + 1 + 4 = 15
Anomandaris (+5) 1 + 10 + 2 + 5 = 18
Eloth (+6) 3 + 9 + 1 + 6 = 19
Karatallid (0) 3 + 2 + 2 = 7 > out
Okaros (+3) 1 + 3 + 8 + 3 = 15
Merrid (+3) 5 + 5 + 4 + 3 = 17
Ruse (0) 1 + 8 + 6 = 15
Serc (+7) 6 + 6 + 4 + 7 = 23
Tulas Shorn (+3) 9 + 1 + 4 + 3 = 17

-1 E

Alkend (+3) 3 + 7 + 4 + 3 = 17
Anomandaris (+4) 4 + 9 + 4 + 4 = 21
Eloth (+5) 8 + 6 + 5 + 5 = 24
Okaros (+3) 8 + 2 + 7 + 3 = 20
Merrid (+3) 4 + 5 + 6 + 3 = 18
Ruse (-1) 2 + 3 + 4 - 1 = 8 > out
Serc (+6) 7 + 1 + 6 + 6 = 20
Tulas Shorn (+3) 3 + 4 + 9 + 3 = 19

-2 E

Alkend (+2) 5 + 3 + 10 + 2 = 20
Anomandaris (+3) 1 + 4 + 8 + 3 = 16
Eloth (+4) 1 + 2 + 9 + 4 = 16
Okaros (+3) 3 + 3 + 10 + 3 = 19
Merrid (+3) 10 + 4 + 8 + 3 = 25
Serc (+5) 4 + 2 + 5 + 5 = 16
Tulas Shorn (+3) 7 + 9 + 4 + 3 = 23

-3 E

Alkend (+1) 9 + 6 + 4 = 1 = 20
Anomandaris (+2) 3 + 6 + 4 = 2 = 15
Eloth (+3) 10 + 2 + 7 + 3 = 22
Okaros (+2) 4 + 6 + 9 + 2 = 21
Merrid (+3) 3 + 4 + 6 + 3 = 16
Serc (+4) 7 + 4 + 6 + 4 = 21
Tulas Shorn (+2) 5 + 8 + 7 + 2 = 22

-4 E

Alkend (0) 8 + 2 + 5 = 15
Anomandaris (+1) 7 + 8 + 3 + 1 = 19
Eloth (+2) 5 + 2 + 8 + 2 = 17
Okaros (+1) 10 + 4 + 10 + 1 = 25
Merrid (+3) 1 + 10 + 6 + 3 = 20
Serc (+3) 4 + 7 + 6 + 3 = 20
Tulas Shorn (+1) 3 + 1 + 3 + 1 = 8 > out

-5 E

Alkend (-1) 1 + 3 + 1 - 1 = 4 > out
Anomandaris (0) 6 + 2 + 3 = 11
Eloth (+1) 6 + 1 + 4 + 1 = 12
Okaros (0) 2 + 8 + 5 = 15
Merrid (+3) 4 + 1 + 9 + 3 = 17
Serc (+2) 8 + 5 + 4 + 2 = 19

-6 E

Anomandaris (-1) 8 + 8 + 3 - 1 = 18
Eloth (0) 7 + 4 + 1 = 12
Okaros (-1) 4 + 7 + 9 - 1 = 19
Merrid (+2) 2 + 8 + 5 + 2 = 17
Serc (+1) 7 + 8 + 2 + 1 = 18

-7 E

Anomandaris (-2) 4 + 7 + 1 - 2 = 10
Eloth (-1) 4 + 1 + 1 - 1 = 5 > out
Okaros (-2) 10 + 7 + 1 - 2 = 16
Merrid (+1) 3 + 8 + 6 + 1 = 18
Serc (0) 6 + 5 + 3 = 14

-8 E

Anomandaris (-3) 2 + 10 + 5 - 3 = 14
Okaros (-3) 2 + 1 + 2 - 3 = 2 > out
Merrid (0) 9 + 10 + 3 = 22
Serc (-1) 8 + 1 + 7 - 1 = 15

-9 E

Anomandaris (-4) 7 + 7 + 10 - 4 = 20
Merrid (-1) 6 + 9 + 7 - 1 = 21
Serc (-2) 1 + 7 + 6 - 2 = 12

-10 E

Anomandaris (-5) 10 + 1 + 6 - 5 = 12
Merrid (-2) 8 + 4 + 3 - 2 = 13
Serc (-3) 6 + 9 + 6 - 3 = 18

-11 E

Anomandaris (-6) 10 + 7 + 9 - 6 = 20
Merrid (-3) 6 + 4 + 5 - 3 = 12
Serc (-4) 2 + 10 + 1 - 4 = 9 > out

-12 E

Anomandaris (-7) 3 + 7 + 9 - 7 = 12
Merrid (-4) 7 + 3 + 10 - 4 = 16

-13 E

Anomandaris (-8) 1 + 10 + 1 - 8 = 4 > out
Merrid (-5) 9 + 3 + 3 - 5 = 10 > wins (wow, what a close one, didn't even need the 'help')

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 09 May 2011 - 06:36 AM

[Path-Shaper]

Here comes the chatter. Tattersail wants to off DKT while he can.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 06:17 AM, said:

So are we going to decide to get rid of Ano? He was again strong in the last challenge but Merrid had the clue which helped him through it.

to Eloth.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 06:17 AM, said:

Are we going for Anomandaris?

To Merrid.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 06:19 AM, said:

Congrats on your win, I bet your very chuffed?

We want to vote off Ano next, get him to go and then Kara after him. Are you okay with that?

to Ruse.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 06:20 AM, said:

Let us destroy Anomandaris next, he can die

Very interesting thoughts from Tattersail. I think he's fine for this vote, but we've seen several reservations about voting for D'rek so far, from the Dureza side... people annoyed with her early ability take charge?

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 06:26 AM, said:

This is a very important TC. If we get Anomandaris removed then that would be perfect. However I am thinking he may have the immunity idol. If he has it then any one of us could go. It'll be tough for me as I have the kara-ruse-me triangle and the eloth-ts-me-merrid-serc alliance, but I cannot trust merrid-serc-ts especially the last 2 as I have not spoken to them.
Hopefully all will go to plan, if not I do have a plan B if I am still around. If I get voted off I will think of voting either Merrid, Ano or TS the winner. Merrid because he formed a great alliance early on, then even better one nw towards end game, he is't sneaky from what I can tell. Ano because he is a beast at challenges and seems to be such a strong player finally TS because he has kept off of the radar, he is in alliances but no one seems to talk about him at all, his posts on thread are vague and off thread very good. He almost convinced me he didn't vote for liosan and I know he did. So there you have it, my thoughts up to now.

[Path-Shaper]

Tapper's fine with Ano... will it happen? Will he play the idol?

Eloth, on 09 May 2011 - 06:51 AM, said:

Him or Alkend, both are fine with me. Shall we make Ano first choice, unless immune?

[Path-Shaper]

Roldom drops a vote on Anomandaris.

Karatallid, on 09 May 2011 - 09:47 AM, said:

Vote ano

Sorry I can't bold

Lizra ready to take out Ano, too.

Ruse, on 09 May 2011 - 11:06 AM, said:

Serc's groupthink discusses the vote. DKT correctly guesses himself as the target and Venge confirms. But will they take out Roldom... or Bent?

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 07:30 AM, said:

ok guys im fairly sure they are all going to vote for me....

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

Who should alkend check this time for their vote?


and who are we going to vote for?

Karat?

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 11:30 AM, said:

well since okaros has already voted he is obviously not voting along with us again.

That leaves Eloth?... Anyone heard from him?

Anyways guys...i have the hidden immunity idol so i think its safe to say either myself or serc will be getting the majority of votes here.
So Alkend if you would just confirm who their target is this time round we can use the idol on who ever it is.

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 11:31 AM, said:

and if we get cut off from each other the same code applies as last time...aaait?

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 11:55 AM, said:

I knew i would be the target after winning those two immunity challenges....sigh.
Ok you guys all vote for karat and i guess ill have to play the idol.

I think I am going to put a vote somewhere else...in the hope of making it look like one of you voted allong with okaros for me!
Since it wont matter i think we can either make ourselves not look that united, or they might think one of their own defected.

Maybe Merrid...why dont you tell Okaros that Ruse approached you to vote for him....you told Ruse that we are going to vote with him but in tact we are not going to since he is working with us.

My vote for Okaros might convince him that Ruse tried to get him lynched.

Could be handy...

Or Serc could tell Eloth that Ruse thinks we are going to all vote with him for Eloth...and my vote for Eloth can be seen as that vote.
Actually Eloth might be the better one...he seems more amenable to switching sides.

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 11:59 AM, said:

I will wait for Alkend to make sure they are going for me and then vote...

Since if they go for him or serc instead i will have to give it to them...

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 12:11 PM, said:

hang on....maybe we should take out tulas?....he does have the ability to check our votes afterall?

[Path-Shaper]

Venge plays along with Tattersail.

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 11:41 AM, said:

Ano is a scary strong elimination player. So I think that he has to go now. This might be our only chance.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

Is serc on board as well? i got a good few votes this end to get rid of him

Roldom directs his group.

Karatallid, on 09 May 2011 - 09:43 AM, said:

Let's get rid of anno he is too dangerous he nearly won today for the third time!

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 12:30 PM, said:

Ano it is

Tattersail's vote is up.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 12:31 PM, said:

Vote Anomandaris

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 12:58 PM, said:

Ano, I had my suspicions about the negative morale getting me each time I tried to give myself a boost, I knew Merrid and Kara both give boosts as well and when you started performing at tasks where everyone else seemed to suffer I just thought that maybe you had something to do with it. If you are reading this then Serc and Merrid betrayed you, and it was easy to convince my side to vote you off, adios amigo

Tattersail talks with Tapper about trust issues.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 09:00 AM, said:

Is Serc and Tulas on board? I am waiting for a reply from Merrid. Ruse will be on board but I don't know about Kara, we got to be careful as well, I hope you trust Serc 100% because he gave his reward to Merrid and Ano, and if ano is in their alliance then they may try to deflect the vote over to one of our players or someone other than ano, so we got to be 100% sure this means that we got to have ALL of Pensador vote for Ano and have Serc tell ano and company to vote for Kara, this way if Ano has the immunity idol then Kara goes instead of one of us.

Eloth, on 09 May 2011 - 01:26 PM, said:

I have heard nothing from Serc or Merrid since we voted off Lio. Nor will we need them, for now. It is much better to do this as Penderosa than as a coalition, I think - I'll drop them a line later with an explanation. Besides, I'm very interested to see which way they'll vote

Eloth, on 09 May 2011 - 01:26 PM, said:

Tulas will vote along with us, I suspect. he's been very quiet.

Tapper votes DKT, too, not wanting to fall behind.

Eloth, on 09 May 2011 - 01:39 PM, said:

vote Anomandaris

Tapper tells Venge it's just business.

Eloth, on 09 May 2011 - 01:43 PM, said:

Congratz on your immunity, Vengy. We're voting Ano as Penderosa. It will go some way to placating Kara, TS (who was surprisingly vocal in condemning those who voted Lio) and to a lesser extent Ruse.
Ano's winning so many challenges that removing him now that he is vulnerable will at the least mean we won't be forced to vote off an ally in a future challenge.

Let's discuss how to move from here on after the challenge, ok?

[Path-Shaper]

Bent drops a vote on DKT, too. That's 3 votes Ano.

Tulas Shorn, on 09 May 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

Vote for anomandaris.

Sorry ano, again I went for alkend, and again you got the shaft.

PEACE

DKT is setting up Ruse for a huge fall...

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 03:18 PM, said:

Whispers to Eloth that Ruse voted for him


Forge Alliance Eloth

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 03:18 PM, said:

Whispers to Eloth that Ruse voted for him


Forge Alliance Eloth

The vote's on Tapper, too! Wow!

Anomandaris, on 09 May 2011 - 03:30 PM, said:

Misdirection Option2 make anyone looking at my vote see that i am voting for Karataliid


Vote Eloth


Play Hidden Immunity Idol
(I might have to change this...depending on alkends findings)

Venge shares the idol info with Bent!

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

Well shit, I just found out that ano has the HI and is planning on using it. He is trying to talk us into lynching either Kara or you. I am trying to get it shifted on to Kara.

Venge shares with Tapper, too. I think maybe Ano's move was for the Backstab only... most likely Venge can shift the vote away from Eloth, right?

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 03:04 PM, said:

We are screwed. Ano knows that we are going to vote fo him and says that he is going to use his HI.

Right now ano is trying to talk us into either voting off Kara or tulas.

I am going to try to shift it on to Kara.

I said that I thought that ano had a HI. Man what a clusterfuck.

Eloth, on 09 May 2011 - 03:55 PM, said:

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 03:04 PM, said:

We are screwed. Ano knows that we are going to vote fo him and says that he is going to use his HI.

Right now ano is trying to talk us into either voting off Kara or tulas.

I am going to try to shift it on to Kara.

I said that I thought that ano had a HI. Man what a clusterfuck.

Ouch. Well, it might be bluff from his part, and I can't take back my vote. I don't know if the smoke signals have reached other Pensadores (apart from Okaros) so it may be a blessing in disguise for Ano - Pensadore votes collectively for him, Dureza Kara and Kara goes. From there on, it will be... interesting on how we'd best play this.

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 04:00 PM, said:

Right now ano is saying that he is going to vote for you and wants everyone else to vote off Kara. I am going to do it as getting rid of Kara is still a step in the right direction.

[Path-Shaper]

Venge shows the vote... it's on Roldom! He was so strong once... alas. 3 votes Ano, 1 vote Eloth, 1 vote Karat.

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 04:43 PM, said:

Vote Kara


Sorry mate you should have believed me when I told you I voted for kalse. We could have made a good team. Sorry mate.

The Karat groupthink... Okaros realizes the truth too late.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 04:14 PM, said:

who hasn't voted? alot of people have voted for ano, just in case he plays the hidden immunity can one or two vote for someone else? If so, who is the best recommendation?

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 04:30 PM, said:

I have voted for Ano, so hopefully has Ruse, Kara and Eloth, I think Ano has voted for Kara, if the remaining player Tulas votes for Alky then we may have a chance.

Tulas Shorn, on 09 May 2011 - 04:39 PM, said:

I already voted Ano, sorry, I was in a rush.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 04:48 PM, said:

Shit, is that all of our team voted then?

Venge talks with Okaros.

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 02:56 PM, said:

I haven't heard from serc since the forum came back up. I told him what we were doing and who we were voting. Just waiting on his reply.

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

I just found out that ano thinks that since he lost the immunity challenge he is going home. He is saying that he is going to use his HI. He is trying to get the rest of use to vote for either Kara or tulus.

This is a clusterfuck. God I thought that he might have the idol.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 03:32 PM, said:

I don't think he has the idol, I think he is using this to play you. I have voted for him and I think if we all vote for him and one other votes for Kara then it isn't a loss if we lose Kara is it?

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 03:51 PM, said:

Ok I am fine with losing either one. But the HI from our old tribe hasn't only been used once all game.

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 03:55 PM, said:

Are you sure that ruse and Kara are voting with you guys in a block.

Right now ano is talking about voting for eloth. If the vote gets to split up then anyone could go home.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 04:08 PM, said:

hmm, I am sure that Ruse has voted for ano and the same with kara, eloth is in our alliance though with you and serc and me, that wouldn't be a good choice, divert him onto kara because kara can win at challenges.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 04:10 PM, said:

Can you ask him to show you the idol? Ask him to show you the higgen immunity idol so that you can be sure he has it

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 04:18 PM, said:

I can't stupid dkt has already sent a message out saying that he is on his way home and off line.

I think that I am going to vote for Kara the worst case scenario is that we remove someone who we were going to remove anyway. If ano is bluffing then you guys will send him home. I don't think that he is though. He said that he had arranged contengences in case he isn't the one targeted.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 04:19 PM, said:

Is alkend an option, 2 guys may vote him you see, with you and serc it would be by by alky

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 04:26 PM, said:

Let me see if serc would be down with that.

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 04:39 PM, said:

Serc doesn't want to take Allende out now. It is possible that they have a separate arrangement. I am going to vote Kara. One way or the other a strong challenger will go home.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 04:59 PM, said:

Okay looks like it has to be that way.

[Path-Shaper]

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 04:11 PM, said:

Well this is actually going as we had hoped. Had you informed ano of what we wanted to do earlier?

I told eloth and tulas that ano sprang his HI on us at the last minute, and that I am going along with removing Kara.

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 04:35 PM, said:

Good let's keep that hush hush... Don't bother telling that ruse story to eloth. I let him in on what was happening and acted suitable pissed off. Eloth is fine with Kara going it had to happen sooner rather then later. Okaros is flipping out about Kara. I told him cause I don't want him to bail on us after the vote. Keeping him on the hook saves us options in case. I like options.

Oh and okaros wants me to talk you into voting off alkend. Thus allowing the ponders to still have a lead. I told him I would pass it by you. I am going to tell him that you don't want to part with alkend now.

I am voting off Kara. We don't want him getting the other ponders into another strong alliance.

Serc, on 09 May 2011 - 04:43 PM, said:

Oh, woops, I already told Eloth about Ruse trying to garner Dureza votes:

Serc, on 09 May 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

Oooh, catching up on my PMs and here's a fun one from Ruse:

Ruse, on 08 May 2011 - 07:23 AM, said:

With Lio being voted out last time, it's clear Eloth, Tulas and Okaros are working as an alliance with some Durezas.

Let's keep things balanced by voting out Eloth now and you won't have to worry about those three and one of you turning on the rest of you.

So, head's up on that. Not sure if you're in any significant danger from it - as far as I know no one is planning to vote with him. Kind of a weird plan for him, really, but I guess he wants to vote you off to make it seem like the former-Durezas are unified and then rally the former-Pensadors behind himself?

And yeah, Eloth probably is fine with Karat going, but he's also trying to keep Okaros and Tulas with him and they might not be. Plus they've all already voted and we don't know how they're voting...

Re: Okar/Alk - true, I don't want to part with Alkend. If we just say that, though, it will look like some sort of Dureza powerplay... maybe we'll have to foil Okar somehow soon.

Gah, we're getting into the annoying times now where there's nobody to vote off except our allies because we're some level of allies with everyone! The worst time!

Merrid, on 09 May 2011 - 05:00 PM, said:

Very annoying times.

Tapper and Tatter.

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 04:09 PM, said:

Hiya, are you around?

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 04:11 PM, said:

well I should have wrote a bit more, ano is letting merrid know that he has the immunity idol, this i am unsure about, I think it is a ploy by ano to divert the votes, however it could be true. I have asked merrid to ask ano to show him the idol, if he does have it then we need the rest of the players to vote for either kara or alkend?

Okaros, on 09 May 2011 - 05:10 PM, said:

It looks as though their team are going to vote together and vote off kara, this means one of them have to go next voting council otherwise we are on the back foot, i think serc is playing you and keeping ano as an ally. Ruthless, we need to be very careful