[Path-Shaper]

Time to figure out who in Dureza gets the HII clue.

1. Alkend
2. Anomandaris
3. Barghast
4. D'riss
5. Hood's Path
6. Kalse
7. Merrid
8. Serc

Roll: 1

So Alkend gets the clue... will be interesting to see what he does. It's useless since Barghast found the idol already.

Path-Shaper, on 14 April 2011 - 09:20 PM, said:

On the way back to camp with the fishing gear, you are helping carry the basket with the netting and various small pieces. Someone else is also carrying it and needs to catch his breath. You both set it down while he catches his breath. He turns to a nearby person and they begin talking with each other about how great the challenge went, and other things.

Their voices fade into the background, however, when you look into the basket and see that jostling the materials slightly has caused one of the flippers to move from its original spot in the basket. When it moved, you could see a small piece of a paper inside of it. You look around and believe nobody is looking. You grab the paper and quickly pocket it.

Back at camp, you excuse yourself, find a secluded area, and look at the paper... it's a clue to the Hidden Immunity Idol!

You eagerly pocket it and think that it will certainly come in handy...

You have a +2 Bonus on all Search for Hidden Immunity Idol rolls. You may share this clue with anyone you wish and they will also get the +2 Bonus, or you may just keep it to yourself.

Barghast looking toward the evening.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 09:20 PM, said:

Well I'm running it as a solo parent tonight. The wife is going with her mom to the casino tonight and won't be back until sometime tomorrow. I have a few more hours here at work but then I won't be able to get back on until the little ones have gone to sleep.

He's got a good convo going with Tattersail.

D, on 14 April 2011 - 09:46 PM, said:

Hi Twelve,

I'm Tattersail, I was toying with the idea of mixing my endurance role with a leadership role or something like that as to enhance our performance in tasks, it said something about working with others, however I stuck with levelling up my endurance role this go.

I haven't forged alliance with anyone other than you and Serc today. I didn't see the point on day one to be honest, and I wanted to see how things were going. One thing that I have been thinking about is who voted for HP yesterday? 4 of our team did, it looked like everyone would have voted for Tiam after his lies and Tiam didn't cast a vote, so I was wondering if you had any take on it?

Hopefully we will do well in our next challenge, I do not know what their team may do, but I think they will add a bit of strength like ours. Ano seems like he doesn't read the thread or what is said. He seems like he misses things, which makes me suspicious of him, its like he doesn't care what us fantastic people have to say

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twelve has a lot to think about with his idol. He's down 5-3 right now and doesn't even have the alliances fully known (swap Alkend and D'riss). How could he play the idol to his benefit and somehow gain a majority? Hard to imagine him saying something without the news "getting out."

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 09:59 PM, said:

I'm bored and I'm being ignored by Serc and D'riss. I don't know if it's intentional or not but it has to make me wonder.

So this is the latest of where I think the numbers stand.
HP-Serc-Merrid-Anomandaris-D'riss are the members of this Gentelmen Bastard club that they are calling themselves with me being Bug the apprentice. I know that Merrid and Alkend are in communication with each other and it looks like Kalse is in some serious trouble as I look to be his only serious ally.

That is 5 strong allies and 3 people fighting for scaps. I for one don't like being the "follower" or the "good little solider". Those players tend to get their butts voted out because they are not the ones making the desicions.

But what do I do? I have this little thing in my pocket but if I use it to save Kalse or Alkend or more importantly myself and vote off one of the Gentlemen Bastards then the numbers would be 4-3 with me still on the outside looking in.

I could pull the hidden immunity idol blindside without anyone knowing it was me except the person that I give it to and still be in good with the Bastards. My only hope is that the Bastards want to get rid of Anomandaris more than they want to get rid of Alkend or Kalse. If they do that and I move up to number 5 then I will definately have an opening to make a huge move. Otherwise my only hope is to get to number 5 instead of 6 with my idol.

Pretty sure Tattersail doesn't realize that Alkend's immunity was one-time-only.

D, on 14 April 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

Yeah definately, a more colourful opinion than I expected. Who do you see as a weak link then? I also want your thoughts on this, I was looking back on the general rules for the 8th - 9th time and I read about the immunity idol having to be played/used for it to work, so if we did vote of Alkend would he get voted or would immunity work automatically, if we voted for him and it didn't work would that mean we get to keep one player and not lose any?

Back to players, I haven't read the thread because i've had 2 seconds to myself, but up until the challenge today i've thought that Alkend has been keeping a low profile, Merrid says what we want to hear, Ano is weird but you've covered that and you and Barghy are our better players. That is why I have linked with you two. These are the players that come to mind, I cannot think who I have left off.

I'm going to be back in around 9-10 hours now.

Here's Bent's message to Shin heh...

Tulas Shorn, on 14 April 2011 - 09:56 PM, said:

Shadow, Sorry pal, but I think my team is going to run this game. I may be wrong, but if not, it looks like you were the first to fall, all because of a role discrepancy. Sorry again man, but

You are...

THE WEAKEST LINK!

GOODBYE!


Oops, wrong show.

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Well Lizra is happy to level up Follower for the time being. Should be interesting.

Ruse, on 14 April 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

level up on follower

[Path-Shaper]

Barghast talks more to his allies.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 10:48 PM, said:

Hey Tat

I was thinking about the leadership role. I think that it might give you the ability to form more than two forged alliances. But that is just what I think. What do I know?

Do you seriously don't know who voted for HP and who voted for Tiam? Have you told Serc that you forged an alliance with me? Has anyone forged an alliance with you yet?

Who have you all talked to?

I'm trying to sift through all of the lies I've been told. I have to go check something and I'll get back with you.

And he finally "gets it." To Kalse.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 11:19 PM, said:

I just had an interesting conversation with D'riss. He doesn't know who voted for HP. This is after Serc told me that D'riss is number 5 of the 5 person alliance. I offically don't trust Serc anymore. I now know that you me and D'riss are the three players that are on the outside looking in. We now need to find out between Alkend and Anomandaris who is the true number 5 person in the other alliance. My bet would be Anomandaris. Serc has mentioned to me a number of times that "they" don't trust Alkend. That looks like a good enough opening to try and get him over to our side for the next vote.

I'm going to be talking with D'riss some more and I need you to forge an alliance with Alkend. Gain his trust. Just be careful what you tell him. In no uncertain terms must he know that I'm involved in any way shape or form. Alkend is in close communications with Merrid so you can bet that anything that you tell him can and most likely be told to Merrid and the rest of the group. I don't want it to get back to the other 4 that I am making plans behind their back. That would mean that Serc will stop talking to me and I can't have that.

I'm pretty sure the order of people to get voted out will be either you or D'riss then who ever survived the first vote. Then me. That is if I can believe Serc at all. If we want any shot at turning this around we have to get one of the main five to flip.

To me... and the mind games begin.

Barghast, on 14 April 2011 - 11:35 PM, said:

I'm thinking of doing something crazy. I was wrong on my last post. D'riss isn't in the alliance. Alkend is but there may be some tension with his entry into the group.

I am thinking of giving my HII to Kalse so he can show Alkend that he has it and that Alkend will consider flipping to our side. Especially when we mention some of the comments that Serc has said about him. I will then ask that Kalse give me back the idol. It will be a huge gamble but this is the only way that I can see me making it from the middle of the pack to the top.

I don't want to show Alkend the idol myself because then he might betray my betrayal and then I'll be going home sooner than #6. Though if we keep winning challenges then I won't have to worry about this plan for a while.

Path-Shaper, on 14 April 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

That's an elaborate strategy. What makes you think Kalse will not just keep it? What will you do if Kalse tells you that Alkend told him he'd flip. Would you believe Alkend? Would you believe Kalse? How much do you trust either of these characters?

Looks like Roldom is back... he'll probably vote shortly and then we'll need snak0026 to finish it off.

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 11:39 PM, said:

everyone must vote before tribal finishes, but a majority will win

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That's it then. Roldom orchestrates an immediate blindside. I'm impressed with his ability to pull it off fairly smoothly, but I have to wonder if this will put everyone in that alliance a little on edge. Who's next, y'know?

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 11:48 PM, said:

Vote shadow

because he lied

admitidly i would of done the same had i started the game later on in the conversation, but his lie will get us into trouble later on if we count on his inteligence.

Ruse: Gamelon, Fener
Fener: Shadow, Okaros
Shadow: Eloth, Liosan, Ruse, Tulas Shorn, Karatallid

He also probably overshares to Bent. Why would you say you and Ruse started it? That means you and Ruse are the top two!

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 11:54 PM, said:

sorry i coudlnt get back in touch with you earlier

the plan was originally hatched by me and ruse, to pull in 5 core players, each with different skills to form a kind of cadre that could stick together right till the end, where it would be up to the jury to decide who wins, not any of us 5

as i started this, the original members were the two i orginaly allied with, Ruse and eloth, and two others who allied with me, shadow and liosan

this gave us one of each of the 5 roles in our tribe

Me - survivalist - morale and endurence boost

Lio- strength

Shadow - intelligence

Eloth - leader

Ruse - follower - allie abilities

When ruse allied with shadow, ruse was informed that shadow was a survivalist, not a genius. which gave us 5 survivalists, not 4. which meant unless shadows survivalist role was different to the other 4, he was lying.

This has prompted us to remove Shadow. He knows about our cadre and he is lying to us.


whats interesting to me is that eloth told you our 5th member was Fener, not liosan....

when shadow leaves ill try to organize it so that all 4 memebers of the cadre are allied with you, you already have eloth ruse and me, so that just leaves lio.

sorry for the late reply

Tulas Shorn, on 15 April 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

I am not allied with Ruse in any way, just you and eloth.

I invited myself to them.

No one has tried to contact me.

I feel like a girl that has the clap, lol.

Valid question, really. Why trust Shadow now if you can't trust him later? The real problem is that Shadow never really lied. He was caught by some poor planning. He didn't think to Psych! a role likely to have +INT in it and Ruse caught it. Alas. Shin could have spent the last two days idol hunting, too... especially today, but I guess when you're confident...

Karatallid, on 14 April 2011 - 11:59 PM, said:

I have to admit to feeling a bit of a bastard voting shadow off when he was part of our little group, but we needed an intelligence role and he had been lying to us, maybe if he had told us in the cadre he had been lying....its an understandable lie really. One I might of tried myself.

Of course theres the possibility that its ruse who is lying, but why would he attempt a betrayl at this point in the game?

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Really, Roldom? Really?

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 12:10 AM, said:

if we get all 5 members of our little cadre linked up, can we just create one message thread with 5 members insteasd of all all these one on ones?

twelve knows he has to decide eventually but the longer the better.

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 12:14 AM, said:

I trust Kalse very much. Enough to give him my idol, probably. I don't trust that Alkend will flip that is why I am thinking of giving my idol first to Kalse so he can show Alkend the idol. That keeps my nose clean. And by keeping my nose clean I will still know who the group decides will get voted off. Then I can direct Kalse as to if either he or D'riss will need the idol to save themselves. I am still reliant on the "Gentelmen Bastards" to keep me ahead of Kalse and D'riss if this goes south.

Of course the safest thing to do would be to keep the idol until final 6 and then use it to save myself to make it to the final 5.

I'm also thinking of only giving the idol to either Kalse or D'riss right before the vote to blindside one of the top 5 so I can move up with two loyal people behind me.

Of course being able to keep the idol until after the merge would be ideal.

Hopefully I don't have to make any desicions for a while.

This will be interesting considering the guy with the second most votes is not even in the main 5. I wonder how well Karat can keep his web locked down.

Okaros, on 15 April 2011 - 12:20 AM, said:

Sorry, but Fener is not only an extraneous survivalist, but is, by definition, also evil. Bye Fener.

Ruse: Gamelon, Fener, Okaros
Fener: Shadow
Shadow: Eloth, Liosan, Ruse, Tulas Shorn, Karatallid


Discussion from the spiderweb leaders.

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 12:08 AM, said:

are you able to add TS looks like eloth recruited him for us

the only strange thing is that when eloth told TS that there was five of us, he named us all, apart from LIo, he mentioned Fener instead...

are you able to allie with TS?

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 12:10 AM, said:

I sould be once Shadow is off.

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 12:12 AM, said:

cool, are you planning on leveling up this role or branching out?

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 12:20 AM, said:

I'm leveling up. You never know what the ups are and I don't think anyone else will choose follower to branch out.
How about you?

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 12:22 AM, said:

im going to push up my survivalist, i think the top end ability will be better than a generic character

And discussing leveling with Tulas.

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 12:05 AM, said:

lol sorry i thought you said ruse...mind fart

right well in that case lio and ruse should be able to add you easily enough, or at least one of them lol

ill badger them about it in a min

what are your leveling up plans?

Personaly i prefer leveling each charachter up, instead of sideways, if the cadre works honestly with each other it means that we will have at least 5 players with top end abilities which should win us any team challenges

Tulas Shorn, on 15 April 2011 - 12:26 AM, said:

I already put in a provisional on lvl 2 for myself, so sounds good

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D'rek officially welcomes the linked-up DKT.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 12:23 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 14 April 2011 - 12:09 PM, said:

cool man...ive formed no other alliances besides with HP

And I actually voted for Tiam/The Dude yesterday too... without even knowing the rest of the "Gentleman" did.

Cool beans, welcome aboard. Have you read the Lies of Locke Lamora (where the Gentlemen Bastards name comes from)?

And yeah, I was really surprised to see so many Tiam votes, glad I wasn't the only one who thought his reveal was weird. I think he was a Deceiver and maybe and maybe part of that role is that he appears as a Follower to Alkend's follower role?

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

Oh, and here's our roster, so you know:

Serc
HP
Merrid
Alkend
Anomandaris

Barghast is our little protege, sort of a minor member (or Bug if you've read Locke Lamora), basically we like him more than D'riss and Kalse but he's not a full member of the Gentlemen Bastards.

D'rek smartly explaining the idol immunity stuff to Tats.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 12:41 AM, said:

As I understand it, Alkend's immunity was only for the first cycle. The hidden immunity idol is different, people can search for it and they might find it. That one they then keep forever, and can play it at the start of a tribal council to make them immune for that council. If they have it, don't play it and get voted off they die anyways, though.

It's obivious that D'rek's allegiance is to Vengey right now, but she shares this with Trull's son, too.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 12:51 AM, said:

Oh everyone. I'm chatting with D'riss now, but he didn't even mention an alliance and I'm not going to offer him one.

AFAIK, here's how the alliances all stand:

The Gentlemen Bastards
Serc (Sabetha) - connected to Merrid and HP
Merrid (Locke or Jean, you can fight with HP over which you like best) - connected to Serc and Alkend
HP (Locke/Jean) - connected to Ano and Serc
Ano (Galdo) - connected to HP and me
Alkend (Calo) - connected to Merrid

Barghast (Bug) - a friend of the Gentlemen but not a full member, I told him we'll try to keep him alive over others. As far as he knows, the GBs are very hierarchical and I'm at a low level. He thinks the GB are Merrid, Serc, HP, Ano and D'riss

Kalse
- on friendly terms with me, chatting with you. I told him flat out that I'm in a big alliance but I don't mind being friendly with him and trying to keep him alive over other non-alliance folk (didn't mention any names)
- also connected to you

D'riss
- chatting with me, but no alliances spoken of

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Karat is leveling up.

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 01:49 AM, said:

please level up to level two of survivalist

[Path-Shaper]

OK, here comes the catch up... website downage failure.

Vengey and D'rek.

Merrid, on 15 April 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

I am thinking about connecting to Barghast. I have one connect left. What do you think.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 03:11 AM, said:

Well it's either make a direct connection to another Gentlemen Bastard or to a non-GB. Connecting to another GB makes our inter-communication better and minimizes problems related to one of us being a target because we're a key link (right now, that's just me ). On the other hand, I don't think we've really divulged enough information to the non-GBs for them to know that, and worst comes to worst you could always just break a connection and connect to HP if I died.

So yeah, I say go for opening a channel to either Barghast, Kalse or D'riss. D'riss is the biggest enigma right now, I think, so it could be good to learn more about him. Barghast might be a good choice too, trying to find out if he's doing anything suspicious with D'riss or Kalse. But because he knows (almost accurately) who's in our alliance and I've been passing myself as a lower-echelon member, it might set off sirens if you connect to him. Or you might just not get much out of him because he knows I'm with you. I suppose a different option would be to connect to him and dispel some lies I've been telling him, but that might get complicated fast.

So, uh, I guess that's a lot of possibilities, take your pick!

Looks like ansible is breaking ties with Vengey and going to try and pull in Ment. Could be a pretty risky move, but if this drums up votes a certain way, the HII could really make things come into play.

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:21 AM, said:

Break my alliance with Merrid.

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:37 AM, said:

I'd like to forge an alliance with Alkend.

Ruse is tightening the web with Bent.

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:56 AM, said:

If still possible forge alliance with Tulas Shorn

D'rek monologues to me.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 02:52 AM, said:

Well Kalse hit that ball rolling with suggesting I was a Genius like him, and Bargy also prodded it when he assumed such on-thread. Kalse's openness about the Genius role made it easy for me to claim the same abilities as him. The fact of the matter is that the Leader ability of not losing morale in tribal council is a pretty selfish ability, not as useful to the team overall. So it benefits me to claim Genius instead and long-term-wise gives me a slight edge by mis-leading people on my abilities.

Now I'm claiming I'll branch to leader, this is because I don't want to claim Genius level 2 and suddenly be expected to really perform tasks with a lot of INT that I can't provide. By Leader being my "branch out" instead of my starting role and with the preface on-thread that I'm doing it for the team, it doesn't reflect badly on me that the Leader ability turns out a bit selfish, it just seems like a risk that didn't pay off. This also saves my ass from a circumstance where I'm expected to know Genius Level 2 abilities before Kalse has revealed what they are.

In reality, I will go to Leader Level 2 and no one will even know I have the Level 2 Leader abilities so I won't be pressured to reveal them. Hope they're good! (I'll send a separate PM on this in a nano)

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 02:53 AM, said:

On a related side note, Ano has been keeping his role close to the chest, so I think he might also be a Leader and letting people assume he is Genius.

LOL.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 04:05 AM, said:

For the record, my notes on this game are currently at 6 MS Word pages and a Visio diagram of the alliances...

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 03:57 AM, said:

I would like to spend my EXP leveling up to Leader Level 2, please.

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Shin's final thoughts... alas.

Shadow, on 15 April 2011 - 04:19 AM, said:

Ok. You have a spoiler password for me then? (Send it to shinrei, I'll sign out of here).

Final thoughts - obviously I was lied to by this supposed alliance. If they all voted for Fener, I wouldn't be out.

And I don't understand it TBH, why would a bunch of survivalists vote out an non-survivalist? Unless most are lying about their ability.

I feel like I"m really missing something big. I hope I am, otherwise I'm worried about the intelligence of the people on this team.

Bent reminds me... whew it's hard to keep everything straight =)

Tulas Shorn, on 15 April 2011 - 02:45 AM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 13 April 2011 - 02:47 AM, said:

By the way I want to

LEVEL UP MY GENIUS ROLE TO LEVEL 2

I think thats right

I posted this a while back PB - remember...so, umm yes.

twelve wants to level up!

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 02:49 AM, said:

I could have sworn that I told you that I would like to use my experience to open up the Challenger role.

Select Challenger role using my 2 experience points.

[Path-Shaper]

D'rek to ansible.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 03:57 AM, said:

I won't put in the final PM to PB until I go to bed, but yeah I think I will go for the Leader thing. At the very least we'll know what it does, but I'm hopeful that it'll help the team for challenges, too (you'd think a "leader" would, right?).

The vote-swing next time around (no matter when) is probably going to be largely decided by how people discuss their EXP uses from today. Doing good or bad at challenges can always be pinned on luck, but some people are more willing than others to reveal some info. People generally are suspicious of people who aren't being open and it gives the impression they aren't helping the team. Alkend's the biggest offender in this so far, because he's revealed little and what he has revealed are abilities that aren't useful to the team at all. Ano and D'riss are the next worst, but they have had so far the excuse that others had already revealed the abilities of their roles. People revealing or not revealing what they use their EXP on tonight and what the abilities they gain from it are is going to be the biggest effect. Alkend, Ano and D'riss have the opportunity to make some big brownie points with this, and likewise anyone else suddenly holding cards to their chest are unlikely to keep their current positive outlook.

This goes for everyone, btw, alliances have fallen apart from far less before. If someone in an alliance (any alliance) starts suddenly clamming up and getting secretive after they spend their EXP, their mates will probably be peeved. Part of the issue there is that what you say one place ain't always the same elsewhere, right? Someone could reveal their abilities in all their PMs but not on-thread. Likewise, someone in an alliance who clams up may seem like they're only sharing with their "real alliance".

All of that sounds kind of cynical or pessimistic, but I don't think it'll play out like that for the most part. As a tribe we seem to be doing well at being open and working together, and I think for the clammier people it'll just take a bit of prodding for them to speak up.

In Ano's specific case, well I was thinking that might be Loki, or else someone falsely playing the noob card trying to look like Loki.

In Alkend's specific case, it's not that I necessarily think he was lying, he might just have been wrong about Tiam. Problem is that he hasn't revealed anything helpful and also seems to be playing secretively, so it's suspicious. His low-posting doesn't really help either.


Phew, well that was exhausting, time to go submit that PM to PB and go to bed I think!

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 04:25 AM, said:

It does sound a bit cynical...but I don't think you're wrong. Early on I noticed a significant lack of activity on the boards - and now I think it's probably because people were talking off-thread a lot. I agree that we work together as a tribe pretty well when we need to, but during down times I'm getting a sense of secrecy, not coalition. I realize that's a little bit inevitable but like you said, I want to see more people sharing information on thread. Anomander hasn't even indicated what he's going to do with his EXP yet or even really confirmed his role. He could definitely be playing the noob card on purpose, but breaking rules that could impose challenge penalties on us is just asking for Tribal Council. He's a liability, I think.

D'riss and Alkend have both said what role they're taking now, so I'm glad to hear a little more from them. However, the real test is going to be if/how they reveal their abilities. Alkend was suspicious from day 1 when he won immunity and disappeared, but he could make up for it here, like you said. I guess we'll see. Good luck with Leader. I think you're right that it will be a strong role for the tribe.

Tatter thinking things through...

D, on 15 April 2011 - 07:00 AM, said:

I've never watched Survivor. Just looked it up and I see the split happens half way through and everyone is pitted against each other, if this is the case then how many more people need to be voted out before the split? 2 have gone which leaves 16, is it going to be when we have around 10 people left? If this is the case then I will have another 6xp if I am still around by then, I am thinking I could become very diverse and have low abilities across the board.

If I do this though I would not be strong at any one particular thing, by levelling up Survivalist I did not get better at challenges as a team but on my own, this means I can go for level 4 survivalist OR do this with strength or intelligence and be better at one of those instead.

If I went for intelligence I would be level 2 survivalist, level 2 intelligence and level one strength or leader.

I could be a level 4 survivalist

I could be a level 3 survivalist with another role. Hmm, much deliberation on what to do. I want to win but it depends on a lot of things.

Obviously I am rambling for your benefit as you said you would like thoughts and feelings surrounding decisions.

I am good at fire tasks/challenges, i have +1 endurance. I have a food ability.

If I was to go strong i'd think it'd be along the same lines, i'll be good at lifting/earth challenges, i'll have +1 strength and some sort of morale ability.

If I was to go Genius, it'd be, good at air/complex challenges, i'll have +1 intel and some sort of finder ability?

Just speculating here.

I'm going t think more about this and go with my impulse towards the time of choice. I'd have to wait until 3 people went before levelling up to level 3 wouldn't i? This could be a factor.

D, on 15 April 2011 - 07:06 AM, said:

I got up at 7am, so me thinking it was an upgrade to Top Chef is me not looking at things with an alert head.

I like this, I now have +2 Endurance, I can increase morale and I can win fire making challenges

I do want to know, when it merges to one tribe will my morale booster be for everyone or just me?

[Path-Shaper]

snake0026 decides to go Challenger.

Okaros, on 15 April 2011 - 04:37 AM, said:

I would like to spend my exp to unlock the challenger role

More Morale from D'riss.

D, on 15 April 2011 - 07:09 AM, said:

Just in case. Each day passes so quickly and because it is recurring I make sure its in.

A misunderstanding from Loki

Gamelon, on 15 April 2011 - 07:29 AM, said:

I wish to activate my top chef ability in order to increase my chances as well as my team mates chances of winning the individual immunity idols instead of members from Dureza

Dibs trying to progress his game.

Fener, on 15 April 2011 - 07:03 AM, said:

cheers

Fener, on 15 April 2011 - 07:39 AM, said:

top chef
i is hungry!!

Fener, on 15 April 2011 - 07:41 AM, said:

forge alliance with gamelon

Dibs talking with Tapper. He's shocked they got rid of Shin.

Fener, on 15 April 2011 - 07:02 AM, said:

seriously? didnt see that. tbh i have had so little time iin the game with the forum down and work being a bollix that i feel i am missing alot, but i guess most of us are in the same boat. going to try and get leadership if i make it to next level i think endurance and bonus for other players would be a god combo and i think kara hinted they were going survival 2.

tbh i dont see the point lying about our abilities, it just increases the chances f us ending up in tc.

Eloth, on 15 April 2011 - 07:28 AM, said:

Aye, I feel the same about that.
My own specialisation will probably to get leadership up to level two, after that I may specialize further in Intelligence.

Fener, on 15 April 2011 - 07:32 AM, said:

cool mate i am now survivalist leader immune to morale drops and +1 intelligence

Fener, on 15 April 2011 - 07:39 AM, said:

useful to be comined with endurance

Eloth, on 15 April 2011 - 07:41 AM, said:

aye, it very much is!

Fener, on 15 April 2011 - 07:42 AM, said:

if you go level 2 leadership let me know if its useful so i can decide if i am better off going level 2 leader, survival or adding in a third tree like challenger etc

Eloth, on 15 April 2011 - 07:46 AM, said:

Will do

I'll only get the result when PB awakes, though, which is quite probably at some time where I'm having more drinks than is good for me

Fener, on 15 April 2011 - 07:55 AM, said:

nothing wrong with that old bean

[Path-Shaper]

Roldom is obsessed with idol theft... wtf mate?

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 08:02 AM, said:

im not going to be online for about 18 hours

If i win, can i provisonaly give my idol to Ruse the second i win it?


and if i win or lose can i provisionaly do a find and steal the idol from who ever wins the challenge on there team

DKT levels up.

Anomandaris, on 15 April 2011 - 08:04 AM, said:

oooooooh...so i can become more that one type of "person" by unlocking more kinds of roles!!


wow tough choice...

I think Im gonna level up now and tell the crowd im a level 2 genius...I suppose if i am going to play the deceiver i might as well go for it.
There must be some juicy things that come from this!

But then i could end up sucking at challenges and i dont want that either!!... bah fuck it...

LEVEL ME UP

[Path-Shaper]

DKT slowly meshing into the GBs.

Anomandaris, on 15 April 2011 - 08:27 AM, said:

Sweet.. sounds like you got it all set up nicely for the merge...glad to be a part of the club.

havent read Lies of Locke Lomara but will get it on me kindle asap

And HP also talking to Serc.

Hood, on 15 April 2011 - 01:34 PM, said:

So far ano has been pretty straightforward. I haven't had extensive communication with him. Last I heard he was trying to forge an alliance with you.

And he branches to Challenger... interesting how many people are doing this! Only three Survivalists leveled up, I think...

Hood, on 15 April 2011 - 01:39 PM, said:

Not sure where to throw this down, so I'll do so here. I'd like to branch out into the challenger role, if possible.

[Path-Shaper]

Lizra picks Roldom to ride along... no doubt in my mind that that was coming.

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:13 PM, said:

use coattails on Karatallind

ansible goes with a practical approach to Ment.

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:39 PM, said:

Alkend - what's up?

How do you think things are going? There's obviously a lot going on behind the scenes right now. How happy are you with your current allies? I've heard from a couple people now that they don't trust you as much as you think they do. I know I'm sitting on the outside right now (well, me and everyone else...) but I have a feeling things aren't as stable on the inside as they might seem. If the rest of us stick together I think we might have a chance of breaking up the core group and picking someone off - if not, it will be me or someone else this time around, but from what I've heard you aren't too far behind...

I think we stand a better chance together. What do you think?

Roldom and Lizra talk strategy.

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:22 AM, said:

Do you got any nice new abilitys?

I got an ability that enables me to strengthen the abilities of on of my allies.
But I'm losing my ability to forge and alliance. I don't know if that means from now on or as soon as I use the ability.

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 03:29 AM, said:

i thought thats what your abilities would turn into

who are u currantly allied with?

like i said on thread, im a firestarter, if theres a tie breaker situation where the challenge is to make fire, i automaticaly win

and i now hoave plus 2 endurance

you got two votes...i thought you might get a few...

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:34 AM, said:

I'm allied to you, Lio and Eloth.

I think once enabled I can change who I help. I should ask that from PS as well.

Yeah, I'm not surprised I got some. After Gamelon's post it was clear that I had at least one.

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 03:38 AM, said:

one of feners was from shadow, only 4 were cast at shadow but one persons vote wasnt mentioned, so chances are all 5 of our cadre voted for shadow...feel a bit bad about voting for him after all the talk of allience, but its his fault for lying

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:41 AM, said:

Yeah. I wrote him in the "farewell"-massage that he was voted for because we figured that he lied.

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 03:43 AM, said:

same thing i did, still i know that you had all voted me of behind my back id be well pissed off lol

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:45 AM, said:

Good that no one is going to ponderosa yet.^^

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 03:48 AM, said:

ha true!

for now all we have to do is prepare for the team challenges and try to improve lines of communication between the group

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:57 AM, said:

I told PS that I want to connect to TS if possible.

Karatallid, on 15 April 2011 - 07:20 AM, said:

how many of your allies can you help?

is there any chance i could convince you use it on me?

I need to clear some things with PS first, but if i win and everyone goes to tribal council, does somebody have enough time to steal the immunity necklace? if they dont then no one will vote for me (because they will assume i will use the necklace) and I will give it to you so that you are safe

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:

Only one and I indeed used it on you. That should help our personal alliance to last.

If you get it you have announce on our thread that you pass it on and we are voting each tribe seperately. So I think you should keep it as we still have to many people with survivor skills and my new stills are useful for the tribe, so I don't think I will be first choise.

Ruse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:46 PM, said:

Any ideas who to vote for.

I would like to go for Okaros. He seems to be lurking a lot. But we should wait how he levels up.
As an alternative maybe Ferner.
I would go for Gamelon just yet. He seems to be pretty active.

[Path-Shaper]

He doesn't explain why but this is a brilliant move by DKT. He gained INT to start the game but faked Challenger... he just gained STR so now he can easily fake 1 Challenger / 1 INT and not really be lying too much since his stated stats will mesh with his faked roles.

Anomandaris, on 15 April 2011 - 03:58 PM, said:

Psych! Genius!!

[Path-Shaper]

ansible wants to clarify his abilities. I really like this guy, he takes a good approach to strategy. He just didn't ally up fast enough, so we'll see if he can make some noise.

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:41 PM, said:

Question about my new ability - when do I learn the information? Do I learn immediately after the person I choose votes, or only after TC ends and someone is voted off? How long do I have to submit the action? Can I submit it after I vote but before TC ends? Thanks.

Path-Shaper, on 15 April 2011 - 08:06 PM, said:

1) You learn the information immediately after the person votes.
2) You have until the end of Tribal Council to submit the action. Since Tribal Council does not end until all votes are in, you technically could hold your vote, use the action on someone to see how they voted (even after they vote), and then vote based upon that.

snake0026 figures there's not much else to do, right?

Okaros, on 15 April 2011 - 07:08 PM, said:

Because we need morale.

[Path-Shaper]

HiddenOne is already thinking ahead. Good move.

Liosan, on 15 April 2011 - 07:10 PM, said:

Who do we want to get rid of today?


Has TS been brought into the fold?

Liosan, on 15 April 2011 - 07:14 PM, said:

Any thoughts Ruse? We've only got 3 to choose from, which will weaken the tribe the least?

ansible talks with twelve.

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:23 PM, said:

Serc broke his alliance with me unexpectedly. Pretty weird since he didn't have to (I initiated it). Heard anything from him lately? I'm still waiting on P-S to resolve my alliance actions for Merrid/Alkend.

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 03:57 PM, said:

Alright, something weird is going on? Maybe my alliance with Serc is still there. I'll let you know.

What do you think about the challenge? Looks like you'll have a good shot at winning immunity but I'm probably fucked.

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 03:59 PM, said:

That is strange. Huh. If they tell me anything I'll let you know. I don't want to broach the subject with them because that way they will still know that I'm talking with you still.

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 04:02 PM, said:

Well. I took a huge risk and told D'riss where everyone stands. He seems to be okay with aligning with you and I. Let's just hope Alkend is receptive to aligning with us.

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 07:14 PM, said:

Ok P-S just made a mistake and accidentally broke my alliance with Serc instead of Merrid. He fixed it though, and apparently Serc didn't read the message before it was deleted, so we should be all good.

I've messaged Alkend and I'm waiting on his reply. Good news about D'riss. What did he say about Serc? Honestly I think it's pretty dangerous to have our entire alliance also allied with the same person from the other alliance... If anything we should strengthen our own internally or attempt to branch out. For instance, if D'riss breaks with Serc and messages Alkend as well, independently, and gives him the same sort of info I just gave Alkend... It might seem more convincing coming from two sources. What do you think?

And twelve decides to share the HII information with ansible! Let's see what ansible does with it. Will he get a blindside off on D'rek?!

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 07:32 PM, said:

Actually I think that is a great Idea. I did mention to D'riss that he should talk to you as well so he is more comfortable knowing we are all i this together. So if you then tell him the same thing as I then he will know that we are on the same page.

I do have something else to share with you. I haven't told D'riss this yet and I'm not sure if I'm going to unless it's neccessary. But I found the hidden Immunity idol. I'll put in an action to PS to you if you want me to prove it. So if Serc tells me that we are voting you out I will give you the Idol. I may even do that for D'riss if I feel that he is in for sure. I felt like I took a huge risk giving D'riss as much info as I did and If he takes that info back to Serc then I'm most likely the next to go. That is how I plan on keeping you me and D'riss in for another round. I would love to blindside Serc for being such a douchebag to us.

Do you think that I should show the HII to D'riss or should I keep that info to myself?

Vengey and Serc, the other big pair in Dureza, also talk...

Merrid, on 15 April 2011 - 03:56 PM, said:

Well alkend was talking about wanting to branch out his connections I suggested driss to get info there.

Alkend says that tiam was connected to barghast so that is why barghast probably has a good idea of our team. If alkend said that he was in a big alliance and that he was connected with me.

I don't think that we should spread to many lies. In a game like this they can eventually come and bite us. I am omitting my relationship to you and the GB from kalse. He will probably find out eventually. But it makes it easier to keep track of the levels of bullshit.

Merrid, on 15 April 2011 - 04:00 PM, said:

Well kalse just broke off with me so I guess since I didn't jump on his offer of joining up with him he doesn't want to talk.

I think that I am going to make another connection to the GB just don't know who. I will let you know who I pick.

Merrid, on 15 April 2011 - 07:33 PM, said:

I am going to connect with barghast for a while. Then I will break and hit up ando. I will just hop a little bit.

Who should we send home.

Kalse or driss...

I am thinking kalse.

I'm very interested to see what's gonna happen if they try to vote off Kalse...

[Path-Shaper]

Tattersail is a little naive in some respects, so I will be very interested to see if twelve entrusts her with the info.

D, on 15 April 2011 - 06:09 AM, said:

Yeah that could be right, I mean it does seem to fit the description, I don't know if it has some other ability too which makes you better at tasks. It's the tasks that I want to be good at for the team. No, I don't know who voted for HP, I voted for Tiam. I may have told Serc, that was 9/10 hours ago, he didn't comment on it to be fair. What he did say though was that Ano was a good player and he will come strong for us and asked me my thoughts on Merrid and HP. Although that isn't verbatim.

What lies have you been told? And are all your questions answered?

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 07:41 AM, said:

Tat,

I wish I knew how much I can trust you. Actually it is a mute point. I have no choice but to trust you because you me and Kalse right now are the next three players that will be voted out. Everyone else is in an alliance with each other. So please do not share anything I tell you with Serc or anyone other than Kalse. From what I can gather from talking with Serc is that Alkend may be the weak link in the big alliance. This could easily be a lie and is just a way to get us to spin our wheels and there is no weak link at all but Kalse is trying right now to bring him over to form our own 4 person alliance. That is if you are willing. That is the only hope I see for us three to all make it to the merge. Otherwise it is adios 1, 2, 3 for each of us. Feel free to talk with Serc but I ask that you don't reveal what I've told you to him. See if you can get hiim to answer any questions if you want. Make them seem innocent and that you don't know too much to begin with. I really would like for you me and Kalse to form a tight bond and have each others back. If you want to talk to Kalse feel free to break the bond with me and forge one with him and he can verify everything that I have said.

Also FYI,

Kalse, Tiam, and myself all voted for HP

Again I can't emphasis this enough. Please don't tell anyone I told you this. I am taking a HUGE risk by letting you in on this. I just thought you should know where you stand. Feel free to try and independantly verify any information that I laid out but don't go about telling people. hey Barghast told me this, is this true? What little trust and connection I have with Serc would be gone and that little bit of connection is cruitial to us getting out of the bottom 3. He will know that I've gone from accepting my fate to trying to deliberately stir things up. That doesn't help you or me.

D, on 15 April 2011 - 08:06 AM, said:

Ah but I didn't think the politics would be going on, this could be good mis direction from you. Thinking about it though, we have 8 players on our team, I know i'm not in a faction within our team, knowing that you were in a faction with Kalse and Tiam makes me frown upon you, however, Serc being allied with HP, Alkend, Ano and who else am I missing? This isn't good.

There will be 5 of us left by the time it merges into one group, the final group being made up of 10 people, I reckon so anyway. This challenge means that we should all vote for one of their players, if they all vote for one of ours then it will be a tie, we will know who in our team they would be targeting, I think it will be Serc. If this is the case then we could add our vote to theirs and once Serc is gone, they will be left with 3 or 4 players. This is if I believe you.

This opens a new game within the game for me, i'm too naive to thin k we were all working together but of course they would want to secure their futures with each other. I was all for the team at this stage and then if I made it to the final table I would try and bring my best poker game so to speak.

I will Ally myself with you and Kalse, but that puts us on the short side of things, I don't know what to say to Serc now. How do you know they have forged an alliance and are betting against us? Also what lie did you find?

So Tattersail agrees to ally... guess she figures her odds are better of lasting if she tries. It may be...

D, on 15 April 2011 - 04:01 PM, said:

No matter what one of us 3 will be going tonight, because unless we get immunity Serc and co are coming for us. Back in a little while

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 04:03 PM, said:

We have a plan. We think that Alkend might fip. Don't give up hope yet.

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

We haven't even discussed that yet. Though it most likely will have to be Serc. As he was the one that has told us that Alkend is less than trustworthy. So if our plan works then Alkend needs to not trust Serc as well. Kalse did suggest that if both you and he approach Alkend and show a united front that might have more weight behind it than if just Kalse talks to him.

Have you decided to break the forged alliance with me or Serc yet?

D, on 15 April 2011 - 07:41 PM, said:

I won't be able to forge alliance's with you again then will I? Maybe if I left serc and joined Kalse? Although Serc is being fishy, he doesn't communicate at all.

[Path-Shaper]

D'rek gets some clarification on her abilities.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 08:00 PM, said:

Okay, so this Rallying Cry, is it used automatically or do I choose when to expend my saved charges? If the latter, can I choose to only expend 1 if I have 2 saved up? And lastly, does it get announced on-thread or is it hidden?

Path-Shaper, on 15 April 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

1) You choose.
2) You always expend all charges, as the parenthesis indicates. So you can't spend only 1 charge, for example.
3) You may cheer on your team in the scene write up as a clue, but I do not announce the +1 Bonus aspect of it.

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

Well this sucks about the double elimination thing going down. With the forum playing havoc most of yesterday it's a good thing that I didn't need to be on much yesterday.

FYI, D'riss forged an alliance with me. He has just asked my take on the game and I've told him that I felt that we look to be a very united group who looks to want to do well in the challenges. He'll think that we will vote out who we think is the least useful member of the team out. I did mention that thing about Ano to him. But since you already know my opinion on his posting habits I don't think that was too much of an overstep.

D'rek is being so sneaky. She'll have to be careful to not directly ally up with Alkend. If he's #5 in that group, he may take the information he learned and use it... badly.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 08:10 PM, said:

Ano said on-thread he leveled up. On the off-chance that he's lying about his role or his EXP use, maybe you should hold back on divulging your level 2 abilities and prod him to reveal them instead? Although that could backfire on you... maybe get him to reveal half the level 2 abilities and then you supply the other half would work (assuming level 2 doesnt give you just 1 more ability)?

Leader didn't turn out all that great, but oddly it gave me more intelligence. I gotta check if that's default for leader or some sort of building on my existing attributes business. The other ability though is an individual morale-loss resistance, so not that helpful for the team...

Here we have ansible going gaga over the idol talk and he just noticed the potentially incredible combo of him being able to figure out who the GBs are going to vote off, and then giving the idol to that person to execute the save... very impressive.

Kalse, on 15 April 2011 - 08:14 PM, said:

Just got clarification from P-S - the ability can be used up until TC ends, so until the last vote is cast. I find out who the person voted for the instant they submit their vote, or I can use it on someone who's ALREADY voted and it will tell me their vote, as long as TC hasn't ended. This could be key in helping us discover who they're targeting so we'll have to be on the ball during TC.

D'rek relaying some info to Vengey.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

D'riss is being pretty close-mouthed, while kalse is speaking pretty openly about his abilities and what he's going to use his EXP on. I think we should decide based on how much they're willing to share about their EXP use and what abilities they've gotten out of it. As far as abilities for the tribe, we have more survivalists than geniuses, but Kalse and Ano both leveled up while lots of the survivalists have branched out. We'll have to do a sum of what we've got for INT and END bonuses and figure out which one we can afford to cut-down on, I think.

You leveled up, right? Get anything good? Leader turned out to be not-so-great, since the morale resistance ability is both an individual thing and unnecessary with our many survivalists able to bump the whole team's morale up. I'll post the whole breakdown on thread I think, no sense in hiding it.

And D'rek clarifying for Tattersail.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 08:20 PM, said:

I was going to say i didn't think we'd be voting together with the other tribe, but I see Jeff just clarified that. Yeah in Survivor you don't usually even see the other team except challenges until the tribes merge.

twelve trying to play with D'rek a bit.

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

Well this sucks about the double elimination thing going down. With the forum playing havoc most of yesterday it's a good thing that I didn't need to be on much yesterday.

FYI, D'riss forged an alliance with me. He has just asked my take on the game and I've told him that I felt that we look to be a very united group who looks to want to do well in the challenges. He'll think that we will vote out who we think is the least useful member of the team out. I did mention that thing about Ano to him. But since you already know my opinion on his posting habits I don't think that was too much of an overstep.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 08:22 PM, said:

Okay, cool. Yeah, I keep changing opinion on Ano's posting. Sometimes I think it is Loki, other times I think it is someone pretending to be Loki and playing the noob card, and still other times I think it is something completely different!

Barghast, on 15 April 2011 - 08:25 PM, said:

You are right about that. I would have been the one who would have had to forge an alliance with you for us to talk again. I just suggested you canceling our link so you could still talk to Serc and come to an opinion on the lay of the land yourself. Then you could then form one with Kalse. If you want to drop Serc then I would be okay with that. But Kalse just dropped communications wth Merrid. If you dropped with Serc as well and don't form a link with someone else in the alliance then they may figure out I'm behind the move. Or before you drop with Serc tell him that you think he is being fishy and that you were going to drop him and go talk to someone else. That might work without rousing any suspision.

I did send a message about you forming a link with me to Serc as you don't remember talking to him about it. I wanted to be safe than sorry. I told him you asked about my take on the game. I told them that everyone looked to be working well together and would want to vote out the weakest memeber of the group.. I also told him I told you that Ano seems to be a liability as his posts are the most questionable. Full disclosure baby. Kallse hasn't gotten back with me yet on his progres with Alkend. Hopefully we will have all day tomorrow to work on our strategy after we know who won individual immunity.

More clarification for D'rek.

Serc, on 15 April 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

Alright, well as long as the cheering in the scene is somewhat subtle I shouldn't have a problem keeping my Leader-Level-2-ness hidden. Even if someone notices a disproportionate amount of cheering, I can use my known Leader Level 1 as an excuse.

So from my understanding I currently have:

regular END
+1 STR (always)
+1 INT (always)
I don't loes morale from tribal councils.
Can use rallying cries before *team* challenges (none currently stored up).

My morale right now should be 0 right now (+1 yesterday, -1 from the cold recently)

Ah, one more point:

Quote

Every time you or your tribe loses a challenge (so I gain a rallying cry from losing individual challenges???), you gain 1 Rallying Cry charge, up to a maximum of 2. This cry grants you and your tribe (what does this mean in regards to it not working on individual challenges???) a +1 Rally bonus for every charge

Path-Shaper, on 15 April 2011 - 09:40 PM, said:

1) I have your Morale at Average, correct.
2) You do gain a cry from losing individual challenges. So if you lose the one today, you will gain a charge.
3) Sorry, I thought I had a disclaimer in there that says it does not work for individual challenges. It really should say "you and your team." Note team != tribe. There is no effect for individual challenges.