Mafia 71.5 Midnight in Malaysia Spycraft 2.333
#761
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:10 PM
8 alive. 5 votes to lynch, 4 for night.
3 votes Ampelas (Barghast, Ruse, Liosan)
3 votes Ampelas (Barghast, Ruse, Liosan)
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
#762
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:18 PM
Liosan, on 18 March 2011 - 08:59 PM, said:
Barghy you really pushed my hand on this one... never out roled innos.
As of now the only people I really trust are You and by extension Rashan ( though only to the point of not being a killer) I have a really good feeling about Gaylord. and I really hope Ruse is on our side. I keep flip flopping on Korabas. he confuses me. Also by the reaction of Ampleas I am thinking you might be right and he is Either a dragon or Tiger.
As of now the only people I really trust are You and by extension Rashan ( though only to the point of not being a killer) I have a really good feeling about Gaylord. and I really hope Ruse is on our side. I keep flip flopping on Korabas. he confuses me. Also by the reaction of Ampleas I am thinking you might be right and he is Either a dragon or Tiger.
I'm going off of this... that's why I said "if" you trust Ruse.
#763
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:22 PM
@Rashan, you're correct. Keep in mind that you just quoted a GIANT quote from me. I went to page 1, and page by page, multi-quoted every single scene and final vote count... only there were no final counts for Day 2 or 3 (Day 3 was missing just the final vote but Day 2 missed almost every single vote). So I had to manually count up Day 2, while also trying to analyze all of the scenes. Suffice to say, I was trying to hurry and mixed the two up. Clearly you voted HP and I voted Omtose.
#764
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:23 PM
Any comment on Rashan's catch of an incorrect train in your post?
#765
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:23 PM
Barghast, on 18 March 2011 - 08:44 PM, said:
Here's a quote of everything we've had... including final vote counts. Strikethroughs are stuff I've edited from Tapper's posts since he didn't keep counts current at lynch time. Also are dead innos in lynch counts.
Just going to point out things I see.
DRAGON 1, TEMPLE, D-1 (presumably DRAGON 1), TIGER.
TEMPLE contacts DRAGON 1 and says that TIGER has breached the perimeter... DRAGON 1 responds that "we" are moving and an "extraction" is required (presumably the extraction of the Agents). DRAGON 1 implies at least two DRAGON agents. TEMPLE is likely a non-player, so I think we're looking at 3 "starting" scum... TIGER, DRAGON 1, and DRAGON 2 (not named here).
Otta, Madame Marichord, COBALT. Otto and Marichord are running the show, it appears. It also appears that COBALT is perhaps a defector from the Agents? This is based on the fact that Agents seem to have capital names. Marichord doesn't trust COBALT. COBALT is also a "she."
Fener dies. Fener is a body double for Marichord. Note most of the people from this vote are still alive. No deaths night 1.
Day 2, all single vote people are now dead and confirmed inno. All votes on Omtose are still alive.
1 votes for Ampelas (Omtose)
1 vote forOsseric (Barghast)
1 vote forOmtose (Liosan, Merrid, Hood's Path, Rashan)
1 vote forKalse (Korabas)
7 votes for Hood's Path (Ruse,Omtose, GL, Barghast, Kalse, Ampelas, Osseric)
14 hours left in the day, 12 alive.
I have a very hectic day, out for around 90 from now.
Confirmation of DRAGON 2. DRAGON 2 appears to initiate the smoke bomb, indicates scum ability as suspected. HP lynched, no indication of his alignment.
Osseric killed, a Syndicate Sentry. He was the hammer from the previous day, was available to hammer for a while. Could be targeted for this very reason as a contingency for killing HP if HP was DRAGON 1 or 2... but that's huge speculation.
Omtose lynched. Side votes still alive.
Omtose is Marichord.
Both COBALT and Otto are still alive (neither was HP). Some funky grammar in the last paragraph but I believe COBALT wants a gun and Otto is still saying no. My *guess* is that COBALT is "fully trusted" at Level 3 and gets a gun. No clue if she's really an Agent, but Recruit is NOT in this game (stricken from rules text at start) so I doubt she can be brought back, and it would be pretty ugly if it was 4 on 9 to start. Kalse was a Syndicate sentry.
No indication that DRAGON 1 or 2 are dead. We know TIGER, Otto, and COBALT are alive. At least one DRAGON is up. I'd bet the rest are Syndicate Sentries...
We only have 8 people alive right now. One is TIGER, and I think it's Ampelas... but it could be Otto since Otto can now kill. COBALT cannot kill and presumably (until Marichord died?), Otto could not kill until now. That would indicate Liosan is Otto, COBALT, or possibly a DRAGON if they don't have killing abilities. Rashan is almost certainly inno.
So we are looking at these players left in the game, I think.
TIGER
COBALT
Otto
DRAGON (1 or 2)
Sentry / DRAGON (1 or 2)
Sentry
Sentry
Just going to point out things I see.
DRAGON 1, TEMPLE, D-1 (presumably DRAGON 1), TIGER.
TEMPLE contacts DRAGON 1 and says that TIGER has breached the perimeter... DRAGON 1 responds that "we" are moving and an "extraction" is required (presumably the extraction of the Agents). DRAGON 1 implies at least two DRAGON agents. TEMPLE is likely a non-player, so I think we're looking at 3 "starting" scum... TIGER, DRAGON 1, and DRAGON 2 (not named here).
Otta, Madame Marichord, COBALT. Otto and Marichord are running the show, it appears. It also appears that COBALT is perhaps a defector from the Agents? This is based on the fact that Agents seem to have capital names. Marichord doesn't trust COBALT. COBALT is also a "she."
Path-Shaper, on 14 March 2011 - 12:08 PM, said:
AS OVERHEARD BY USAAF PATROL 31.15, PACIFIC THEATRE, AWACS RECORDING. TRANSSCRIPTED FROM MANDARIN.
DRAGON 1, this is TEMPLE. Do you copy?
TEMPLE, loud and clear.
DRAGON 1, it is D-1. TIGER has breached the perimeter. No opposition as of now. Operation HEAVENLY RETRIBUTION is now in effect.
TEMPLE, here DRAGON 1. We are moving. Estimated extraction required in D+8.
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Otto squirmed. Madame Marichord, for all her beauty, was a harsh mistress. "Operation HEAVENLY RETRIBUTION. A full scale leave no-one alive strike on our headquarters. And you only learn of this now?" Her bosom heaved most becomingly.
He swallowed. "Our resources are not what they used to be, Madame. I have recalled our terror teams and local enforcer units, and we do have COBALD here at the compound - I'm sure if we would allow her access to our armory, that she'd be able to repel the tactical squad."
"COBALT still has to prove her loyalty. Keep her near you."
"Yes Madame."
"Well, what are you waiting for? Don't stand there, you have a defense to plan!"
DRAGON 1, this is TEMPLE. Do you copy?
TEMPLE, loud and clear.
DRAGON 1, it is D-1. TIGER has breached the perimeter. No opposition as of now. Operation HEAVENLY RETRIBUTION is now in effect.
TEMPLE, here DRAGON 1. We are moving. Estimated extraction required in D+8.
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Otto squirmed. Madame Marichord, for all her beauty, was a harsh mistress. "Operation HEAVENLY RETRIBUTION. A full scale leave no-one alive strike on our headquarters. And you only learn of this now?" Her bosom heaved most becomingly.
He swallowed. "Our resources are not what they used to be, Madame. I have recalled our terror teams and local enforcer units, and we do have COBALD here at the compound - I'm sure if we would allow her access to our armory, that she'd be able to repel the tactical squad."
"COBALT still has to prove her loyalty. Keep her near you."
"Yes Madame."
"Well, what are you waiting for? Don't stand there, you have a defense to plan!"
Fener dies. Fener is a body double for Marichord. Note most of the people from this vote are still alive. No deaths night 1.
Path-Shaper, on 15 March 2011 - 08:07 PM, said:
8 votes on Fener (Ampelas, Osseric, GL, HP, Liosan, Barghast, Rashan, Ruse).
1 vote for HP (Fener)
1 votes for Merrid (Kalse)
TIGER climbed the fence, or rather, more or less ran up it, then silently landing on the other side. He somersaulted over one tripwire, froze behind a tree to avoid a camera, then pulled himself up into it, running from one tree branch to another. He dropped behind an outhouse, noticed the bodyguard standing in front of its door, and waited. After a few minutes, a curvy blackhaired lady in coveralls came out of the building. He didn't hesitate, but swept a very thin metal chain covered in silk across her slender neck, snapping it in the process. He was away and out of sight before she hit the ground, but of course, that did not stop the guard from sounding the alarm.
Fener is dead. She was D'rek, and Madame Marichord (of the Syndicate faction).
It is now night
1 vote for HP (
1 votes for Merrid (
TIGER climbed the fence, or rather, more or less ran up it, then silently landing on the other side. He somersaulted over one tripwire, froze behind a tree to avoid a camera, then pulled himself up into it, running from one tree branch to another. He dropped behind an outhouse, noticed the bodyguard standing in front of its door, and waited. After a few minutes, a curvy blackhaired lady in coveralls came out of the building. He didn't hesitate, but swept a very thin metal chain covered in silk across her slender neck, snapping it in the process. He was away and out of sight before she hit the ground, but of course, that did not stop the guard from sounding the alarm.
Fener is dead. She was D'rek, and Madame Marichord (of the Syndicate faction).
It is now night
Day 2, all single vote people are now dead and confirmed inno. All votes on Omtose are still alive.
Path-Shaper, on 16 March 2011 - 06:17 PM, said:
1 vote for
1 vote for
1 vote for
7 votes for Hood's Path (Ruse,
I have a very hectic day, out for around 90 from now.
Confirmation of DRAGON 2. DRAGON 2 appears to initiate the smoke bomb, indicates scum ability as suspected. HP lynched, no indication of his alignment.
Path-Shaper, on 17 March 2011 - 09:06 AM, said:
"DRAGON 1 to DRAGON 2, proceed with assault."
"Yes sir, covering our beach head, sir."
Moments later, a small field mortar was constructed, a smoke grenade lobbed over the gate defenses, and the team of commandos set off into the smoke, hoping their training and the element of surprise would allow them to force a breakthrough and lure enemy defenders into the open instead of having them entrenched in the residence and its outhouses.
The security responded with trained speed, and within moments, a chaotic gunfight broke out within the smoke cloud, dropping one and wounding several others, though whose side the victim was on, was entirely unclear.
HP (HiddenOne) is dead. His alignment is UNKNOWN thanks to the smoke.
"Yes sir, covering our beach head, sir."
Moments later, a small field mortar was constructed, a smoke grenade lobbed over the gate defenses, and the team of commandos set off into the smoke, hoping their training and the element of surprise would allow them to force a breakthrough and lure enemy defenders into the open instead of having them entrenched in the residence and its outhouses.
The security responded with trained speed, and within moments, a chaotic gunfight broke out within the smoke cloud, dropping one and wounding several others, though whose side the victim was on, was entirely unclear.
HP (HiddenOne) is dead. His alignment is UNKNOWN thanks to the smoke.
Osseric killed, a Syndicate Sentry. He was the hammer from the previous day, was available to hammer for a while. Could be targeted for this very reason as a contingency for killing HP if HP was DRAGON 1 or 2... but that's huge speculation.
Path-Shaper, on 17 March 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:
TIGER used the distraction of the gun fight to slip into the mansion, tip-toeing over the ancient oak floorboards, always aware of the possibility they might actually be a nightingale trap. Melting into the shadows, he easily avoided a large group of men rushing to the lead exchange, then was almost discovered by a straggler. He followed the target, so close he could feel the man's body heat at times. Almost casually, he aimed the blowgun he carried on his hip - airgun was perhaps a better word - and squeezed the trigger, releasing the air-pressure and punching a conical poison dart into the neck of his victim, closing his mouth with his other hand and bringing him gently down to the floor.
Osseric is dead. He was Silencer, and Agung Redjosentono, a Syndicate Sentry.
Everyone is now level 1, 10 players remaining.
Osseric is dead. He was Silencer, and Agung Redjosentono, a Syndicate Sentry.
Everyone is now level 1, 10 players remaining.
Omtose lynched. Side votes still alive.
Tapper, on 18 March 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:
10 alive, 6 to lynch, 5 for night.
1 votes for Barghast (Omtose)
6 votes forOmtose (Liosan, Merrid, Kalse, Ruse, Barghast, Korabas)
1 vote for Kalse (Korabas)
1 vote for Korabas (GL)
1 votes for Barghast (Omtose)
6 votes for
1 vote for Korabas (GL)
Omtose is Marichord.
Path-Shaper, on 18 March 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:
TIGER continued his careful crawl through the residence, straight to the command room. He expected Graf Otto von Henessen to be there, after all. To his surprise, upon his arrival the room was empty. He crouched behind the main mahogany desk, rifling through the papers inside, hoping for somethign worthwhile.
A small sound made him jump up, three small daggers escaping his fist in a rapid throw. The woman who had startled him evaded two with a sweep of her body, the third gazing her throat. Contact poison would set in soon. He stepped towards her, and only then it all clicked together.... and who she was.
"You again," he said, his voice malformed by the gasmask built into his mempo. He assumed a loose jiujutsu stance, perfectly at ease.
"Ah, you met my doppelganger," she smiled, then struck out with a kick from her right leg. He blocked where he had expected the savate technique to hit him, and only when her three inch heel punched into side, probably tearing into a kidney, did he realise that this was not french kickboxing, as he had practiced against, but Filipino sikarat. That was nowhere in her file, he thought, before unleashing a vicious counterstrike, punchdagger emerging from between the fingers of his left hand.
She deflected his strike with a deft sweep of her hand, lightly pushing his wrist out of the way, then snapping her other hand towards his throat. That's more like it, he thought. He turned his head, taking the strike on the side of his hard plastic helmet/mask, and kneed her savagely in the stomach, then slammed his right fist into the back of her neck, at the same time bringing up his knee. The crunch was sickening as her spine snapped. He stood panting over her dead body for a moment, then turned and padded out of the room. He had a Count to kill.
Omtose is dead. He was Roldom, and Madame Marichord (Syndicate).
A small sound made him jump up, three small daggers escaping his fist in a rapid throw. The woman who had startled him evaded two with a sweep of her body, the third gazing her throat. Contact poison would set in soon. He stepped towards her, and only then it all clicked together.... and who she was.
"You again," he said, his voice malformed by the gasmask built into his mempo. He assumed a loose jiujutsu stance, perfectly at ease.
"Ah, you met my doppelganger," she smiled, then struck out with a kick from her right leg. He blocked where he had expected the savate technique to hit him, and only when her three inch heel punched into side, probably tearing into a kidney, did he realise that this was not french kickboxing, as he had practiced against, but Filipino sikarat. That was nowhere in her file, he thought, before unleashing a vicious counterstrike, punchdagger emerging from between the fingers of his left hand.
She deflected his strike with a deft sweep of her hand, lightly pushing his wrist out of the way, then snapping her other hand towards his throat. That's more like it, he thought. He turned his head, taking the strike on the side of his hard plastic helmet/mask, and kneed her savagely in the stomach, then slammed his right fist into the back of her neck, at the same time bringing up his knee. The crunch was sickening as her spine snapped. He stood panting over her dead body for a moment, then turned and padded out of the room. He had a Count to kill.
Omtose is dead. He was Roldom, and Madame Marichord (Syndicate).
Both COBALT and Otto are still alive (neither was HP). Some funky grammar in the last paragraph but I believe COBALT wants a gun and Otto is still saying no. My *guess* is that COBALT is "fully trusted" at Level 3 and gets a gun. No clue if she's really an Agent, but Recruit is NOT in this game (stricken from rules text at start) so I doubt she can be brought back, and it would be pretty ugly if it was 4 on 9 to start. Kalse was a Syndicate sentry.
Path-Shaper, on 18 March 2011 - 06:49 PM, said:
COBALT looked at Otto. Otto looked at COBALT. "The control room," she whispered, as all of a sudden alarms went blearing. "Marichord was there," he said. "Insisted on it, even. Deadly combattant, but an assassin that could get the jump on her... I guess all that is left for us here is kill these motherfuckers and leave to another Syndicate stronghold." God knows that won't be pretty, hoping for mercy from those vipers for this debacle.
He turned to a guard. "You! Get the flamethrower!" He drew his two H&Ks. "No more mister Nice Guy," he whispered. "Ehm, you know, you could give me a gun," COBALT said, tucking a straw blond lock behind her ear. "I am ambidexter. And it is still not explained why these guys show up here. So I don't fully trust you."
"I'll prove it to you," she said. "If it is the last thing I do, with my fucking bare hands, I'll prove to you that I am not a traitor."
Elsewhere, gunfire resulted in the untimely death of a sentry.
Kalse is dead. She was Grimface Insultbear, and Bodan Ignatovich, a sentry of the Syndicate.
He turned to a guard. "You! Get the flamethrower!" He drew his two H&Ks. "No more mister Nice Guy," he whispered. "Ehm, you know, you could give me a gun," COBALT said, tucking a straw blond lock behind her ear. "I am ambidexter. And it is still not explained why these guys show up here. So I don't fully trust you."
"I'll prove it to you," she said. "If it is the last thing I do, with my fucking bare hands, I'll prove to you that I am not a traitor."
Elsewhere, gunfire resulted in the untimely death of a sentry.
Kalse is dead. She was Grimface Insultbear, and Bodan Ignatovich, a sentry of the Syndicate.
No indication that DRAGON 1 or 2 are dead. We know TIGER, Otto, and COBALT are alive. At least one DRAGON is up. I'd bet the rest are Syndicate Sentries...
We only have 8 people alive right now. One is TIGER, and I think it's Ampelas... but it could be Otto since Otto can now kill. COBALT cannot kill and presumably (until Marichord died?), Otto could not kill until now. That would indicate Liosan is Otto, COBALT, or possibly a DRAGON if they don't have killing abilities. Rashan is almost certainly inno.
So we are looking at these players left in the game, I think.
TIGER
COBALT
Otto
DRAGON (1 or 2)
Sentry / DRAGON (1 or 2)
Sentry
Sentry
Okay you have some explaining to do. i found the quote that you "quoted" from PS based on the time and date stamp. You modified the post extensively and incorrectly. What do you have to say for yourself?
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1 votes for Ampelas (Omtose)
1 vote for Osseric (Barghast)
1 vote for Omtose (Liosan)
14 hours left in the day, 12 alive.
I have a very hectic day, out for around 90 from now.
#767
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:24 PM
Rashan- Does it not concern you that Ampelas has a Killing role?
I will agree, if amp comes back as an inno, then I am dead meat, and Barghast is a liar who played the shit out of me. But, he has been pretty spot on so far. Also, from your lack of calling him a lair about your lack of killing ability I am assuming that is true.
With an Amp lynch we can determine:
if he is scum or not
if barghast is scum
if I am scum.
All with his lynch.
If we lynch me, we find out if I am scum, we find out if barghast is scum, but we don't find out anything about amp. (Well if you lynch me you will find me inno and then know to lynch amp) . So i guess it's 6 of one half dozen of the other. Except, we know I don't have a killing role so I can't be tiger. Amp does have a killing role and so can be tiger. I think his lynch will give us the most info.
If my suspicions are correct we won't be seeing Korabas on the Ampelas train. (but who knows....I have already been wrong multiple times in this game)
I will agree, if amp comes back as an inno, then I am dead meat, and Barghast is a liar who played the shit out of me. But, he has been pretty spot on so far. Also, from your lack of calling him a lair about your lack of killing ability I am assuming that is true.
With an Amp lynch we can determine:
if he is scum or not
if barghast is scum
if I am scum.
All with his lynch.
If we lynch me, we find out if I am scum, we find out if barghast is scum, but we don't find out anything about amp. (Well if you lynch me you will find me inno and then know to lynch amp) . So i guess it's 6 of one half dozen of the other. Except, we know I don't have a killing role so I can't be tiger. Amp does have a killing role and so can be tiger. I think his lynch will give us the most info.
If my suspicions are correct we won't be seeing Korabas on the Ampelas train. (but who knows....I have already been wrong multiple times in this game)
#768
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:25 PM
Barghast, on 18 March 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:
@Rashan, you're correct. Keep in mind that you just quoted a GIANT quote from me. I went to page 1, and page by page, multi-quoted every single scene and final vote count... only there were no final counts for Day 2 or 3 (Day 3 was missing just the final vote but Day 2 missed almost every single vote). So I had to manually count up Day 2, while also trying to analyze all of the scenes. Suffice to say, I was trying to hurry and mixed the two up. Clearly you voted HP and I voted Omtose.
Well i had to point that out. It is very suspicious that you got your vote wrong when you had to manually add it in. Doesn't look good for you.
#769
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:32 PM
@Rashan, is this some kind of joke?
Let me explain it in excruciatingly painful detail so you get it.
I was using the MultiQuote button to capture every single final vote tally. I didn't find one for Day 2 so I used the one you found with your brilliant detective work (have you considered opening up a private investigation service?). When I hit the "Add Reply" button, all of the quoted blocks came in "intact" which is why you see that particular time stamp. I could have "edited that stamp" out but I didn't exactly care about it because I wasn't trying to hide where it was from.
Of course, that quote did not include every vote, so I had to do that. I opened up a new tab (protip: Ctrl - T = win) in Chrome and then parsed back to Page 10 or wherever that was (I use 40 posts per page, how about you?). I then ***quickly**** went down the page and looked for bold text. When I saw bold text, I looked at the vote and clicked back to the other tab and manually edited the vote list by adding players in. I did my best to make sure nobody was "voting twice" in my list. I did this for EVERY vote. I did it as quickly as I could because I didn't want to risk something happening like my browser crashing and all of my work being lost.
Clearly, somewhere in that mixture, I accidentally added your name to one list and my name to the other list. I don't know why. I don't even care why. It would have been stupid for me to try and intentionally do that and hope that somehow people believed that was the new "official" vote count.
You are making a mountain out of a molehill here.
Let me explain it in excruciatingly painful detail so you get it.
I was using the MultiQuote button to capture every single final vote tally. I didn't find one for Day 2 so I used the one you found with your brilliant detective work (have you considered opening up a private investigation service?). When I hit the "Add Reply" button, all of the quoted blocks came in "intact" which is why you see that particular time stamp. I could have "edited that stamp" out but I didn't exactly care about it because I wasn't trying to hide where it was from.
Of course, that quote did not include every vote, so I had to do that. I opened up a new tab (protip: Ctrl - T = win) in Chrome and then parsed back to Page 10 or wherever that was (I use 40 posts per page, how about you?). I then ***quickly**** went down the page and looked for bold text. When I saw bold text, I looked at the vote and clicked back to the other tab and manually edited the vote list by adding players in. I did my best to make sure nobody was "voting twice" in my list. I did this for EVERY vote. I did it as quickly as I could because I didn't want to risk something happening like my browser crashing and all of my work being lost.
Clearly, somewhere in that mixture, I accidentally added your name to one list and my name to the other list. I don't know why. I don't even care why. It would have been stupid for me to try and intentionally do that and hope that somehow people believed that was the new "official" vote count.
You are making a mountain out of a molehill here.
#770
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:36 PM
Liosan, on 18 March 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:
Rashan- Does it not concern you that Ampelas has a Killing role?
I will agree, if amp comes back as an inno, then I am dead meat, and Barghast is a liar who played the shit out of me. But, he has been pretty spot on so far. Also, from your lack of calling him a lair about your lack of killing ability I am assuming that is true.
With an Amp lynch we can determine:
if he is scum or not
if barghast is scum
if I am scum.
All with his lynch.
If we lynch me, we find out if I am scum, we find out if barghast is scum, but we don't find out anything about amp. (Well if you lynch me you will find me inno and then know to lynch amp) . So i guess it's 6 of one half dozen of the other. Except, we know I don't have a killing role so I can't be tiger. Amp does have a killing role and so can be tiger. I think his lynch will give us the most info.
If my suspicions are correct we won't be seeing Korabas on the Ampelas train. (but who knows....I have already been wrong multiple times in this game)
I will agree, if amp comes back as an inno, then I am dead meat, and Barghast is a liar who played the shit out of me. But, he has been pretty spot on so far. Also, from your lack of calling him a lair about your lack of killing ability I am assuming that is true.
With an Amp lynch we can determine:
if he is scum or not
if barghast is scum
if I am scum.
All with his lynch.
If we lynch me, we find out if I am scum, we find out if barghast is scum, but we don't find out anything about amp. (Well if you lynch me you will find me inno and then know to lynch amp) . So i guess it's 6 of one half dozen of the other. Except, we know I don't have a killing role so I can't be tiger. Amp does have a killing role and so can be tiger. I think his lynch will give us the most info.
If my suspicions are correct we won't be seeing Korabas on the Ampelas train. (but who knows....I have already been wrong multiple times in this game)
It does concern me that Amp has a killing role per Barghast "info". However I have seen some posts by Barghast recently that leads me to question how accurate the info that barghast has been reveailing is. If Amp is a town role such as Otto then the syndiacte is really fucked. You were the first person that he outed as being a non sentry. If Barghast was trying to get you passed off as syndicate when you were really an agent and one that really has a killing role and barghast as an agent then of course he would throw a town role under the bus. The fact that Barghast outed me as syndicate left me very vunerable to night kills. We have no way of knowing which side barghast really is. If we vote you out and you turn up Syndicate then I feel we can trust Barghast as just making some honest mistakes in the above mentioned posts and then we can vote off Amp as hopefully Tiger.
Though your talk of packages has me confused. i need to think about what that means and whose side that you might actually be on. It also looks like PS hasn't counted my vote on you wo I'm now reserving my vote for later. Looks like we will have most of the weekend to figure out our next move.
#771
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:36 PM
Rashan, on 18 March 2011 - 10:25 PM, said:
Barghast, on 18 March 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:
@Rashan, you're correct. Keep in mind that you just quoted a GIANT quote from me. I went to page 1, and page by page, multi-quoted every single scene and final vote count... only there were no final counts for Day 2 or 3 (Day 3 was missing just the final vote but Day 2 missed almost every single vote). So I had to manually count up Day 2, while also trying to analyze all of the scenes. Suffice to say, I was trying to hurry and mixed the two up. Clearly you voted HP and I voted Omtose.
Well i had to point that out. It is very suspicious that you got your vote wrong when you had to manually add it in. Doesn't look good for you.
I agree it's an unusual error, but how does it benefit him? He isn't making a case about who voted Omtose, etc., it was more of a summary. I know I keep my own manual vote tally so I don't think this is a major mistake. More likely he c/p'd wrong or something.
And if Barg is scum then he played us all, had confirmed intel on multiple people, and didn't arouse that much suspicion. I have to doubt the scum would have something like a Finder advantage in this game...
#772
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:39 PM
Barghast, on 18 March 2011 - 10:32 PM, said:
@Rashan, is this some kind of joke?
Let me explain it in excruciatingly painful detail so you get it.
I was using the MultiQuote button to capture every single final vote tally. I didn't find one for Day 2 so I used the one you found with your brilliant detective work (have you considered opening up a private investigation service?). When I hit the "Add Reply" button, all of the quoted blocks came in "intact" which is why you see that particular time stamp. I could have "edited that stamp" out but I didn't exactly care about it because I wasn't trying to hide where it was from.
Of course, that quote did not include every vote, so I had to do that. I opened up a new tab (protip: Ctrl - T = win) in Chrome and then parsed back to Page 10 or wherever that was (I use 40 posts per page, how about you?). I then ***quickly**** went down the page and looked for bold text. When I saw bold text, I looked at the vote and clicked back to the other tab and manually edited the vote list by adding players in. I did my best to make sure nobody was "voting twice" in my list. I did this for EVERY vote. I did it as quickly as I could because I didn't want to risk something happening like my browser crashing and all of my work being lost.
Clearly, somewhere in that mixture, I accidentally added your name to one list and my name to the other list. I don't know why. I don't even care why. It would have been stupid for me to try and intentionally do that and hope that somehow people believed that was the new "official" vote count.
You are making a mountain out of a molehill here.
Let me explain it in excruciatingly painful detail so you get it.
I was using the MultiQuote button to capture every single final vote tally. I didn't find one for Day 2 so I used the one you found with your brilliant detective work (have you considered opening up a private investigation service?). When I hit the "Add Reply" button, all of the quoted blocks came in "intact" which is why you see that particular time stamp. I could have "edited that stamp" out but I didn't exactly care about it because I wasn't trying to hide where it was from.
Of course, that quote did not include every vote, so I had to do that. I opened up a new tab (protip: Ctrl - T = win) in Chrome and then parsed back to Page 10 or wherever that was (I use 40 posts per page, how about you?). I then ***quickly**** went down the page and looked for bold text. When I saw bold text, I looked at the vote and clicked back to the other tab and manually edited the vote list by adding players in. I did my best to make sure nobody was "voting twice" in my list. I did this for EVERY vote. I did it as quickly as I could because I didn't want to risk something happening like my browser crashing and all of my work being lost.
Clearly, somewhere in that mixture, I accidentally added your name to one list and my name to the other list. I don't know why. I don't even care why. It would have been stupid for me to try and intentionally do that and hope that somehow people believed that was the new "official" vote count.
You are making a mountain out of a molehill here.
I mostly believe you but I still felt like I needed to point out your mistake because you got YOUR VOTE WRONG. It is a bit more understandible from my perspective if you got someone elses wrong but how can you get your vote wrong.
#773
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:41 PM
Rashan, if you voted, your vote is counted, even if it's not in some official count. And if you vote town off first, there is a somewhat significant chance that the game will end and we will lose. The facts say Ampelas is less likely town than Liosan.
I don't get why you're so offended that I "outed" you. Were you trying to pretend to be an Agent? Everyone here is going to say they are Syndicate. If anything, me outing Liosan and you meant that you were the last person that would get killed. Liosan was a non-Sentry and I was giving out free information to not get lynched. I would have thought one of the two of us were more likely to die.
I don't get why you're so offended that I "outed" you. Were you trying to pretend to be an Agent? Everyone here is going to say they are Syndicate. If anything, me outing Liosan and you meant that you were the last person that would get killed. Liosan was a non-Sentry and I was giving out free information to not get lynched. I would have thought one of the two of us were more likely to die.
#774
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:42 PM
Ruse, on 18 March 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:
Rashan, on 18 March 2011 - 10:25 PM, said:
Barghast, on 18 March 2011 - 10:22 PM, said:
@Rashan, you're correct. Keep in mind that you just quoted a GIANT quote from me. I went to page 1, and page by page, multi-quoted every single scene and final vote count... only there were no final counts for Day 2 or 3 (Day 3 was missing just the final vote but Day 2 missed almost every single vote). So I had to manually count up Day 2, while also trying to analyze all of the scenes. Suffice to say, I was trying to hurry and mixed the two up. Clearly you voted HP and I voted Omtose.
Well i had to point that out. It is very suspicious that you got your vote wrong when you had to manually add it in. Doesn't look good for you.
I agree it's an unusual error, but how does it benefit him? He isn't making a case about who voted Omtose, etc., it was more of a summary. I know I keep my own manual vote tally so I don't think this is a major mistake. More likely he c/p'd wrong or something.
And if Barg is scum then he played us all, had confirmed intel on multiple people, and didn't arouse that much suspicion. I have to doubt the scum would have something like a Finder advantage in this game...
I agree that it is most likely an honset mistake but I'm feeling a bit suspicious of everyone right now. I'm on beer pitcher number two and the paranoia has ratched up imensley.
#775
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:43 PM
I got MY VOTE WRONG because I just do the counts haphazardously. Here's how it goes...
Scan page scan page scan page scan page, see bold text
Change tab
Click in vote area, add player name to end of list, update count, look for player name in another list, remove and edit count if necessary
Change tab, scan page scan page...
You try doing that for a few minutes and see if you don't mix it up. This isn't exact science here, it's editing counts on the fly in a hurry with two tabs.
Scan page scan page scan page scan page, see bold text
Change tab
Click in vote area, add player name to end of list, update count, look for player name in another list, remove and edit count if necessary
Change tab, scan page scan page...
You try doing that for a few minutes and see if you don't mix it up. This isn't exact science here, it's editing counts on the fly in a hurry with two tabs.
#776
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:46 PM
Barghast, on 18 March 2011 - 10:41 PM, said:
Rashan, if you voted, your vote is counted, even if it's not in some official count. And if you vote town off first, there is a somewhat significant chance that the game will end and we will lose. The facts say Ampelas is less likely town than Liosan.
I don't get why you're so offended that I "outed" you. Were you trying to pretend to be an Agent? Everyone here is going to say they are Syndicate. If anything, me outing Liosan and you meant that you were the last person that would get killed. Liosan was a non-Sentry and I was giving out free information to not get lynched. I would have thought one of the two of us were more likely to die.
I don't get why you're so offended that I "outed" you. Were you trying to pretend to be an Agent? Everyone here is going to say they are Syndicate. If anything, me outing Liosan and you meant that you were the last person that would get killed. Liosan was a non-Sentry and I was giving out free information to not get lynched. I would have thought one of the two of us were more likely to die.
Fine, I wanted to test you info and a vote on Amp does the same thing as a vote on Liosan so
remove vote
vote Amp
If this turns out to be a syndicate member and the syndicate hasn't lost I am so gunning for you next.
#777
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:48 PM
AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The lull in basketball games if causing me distress. The beer is definately making the screen blurry. Where are we on the beer count. I need to revive that.
#778
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:52 PM
Fine w/ me.
I'm assuming we need GL to lynch today at this point, although at this point I imagine any scum will vote Ampelas and just hope they can still win. If it's 5-3, it's still pretty feasible for scum to win since it's pretty unclear the 3rd scum is.
I'm assuming we need GL to lynch today at this point, although at this point I imagine any scum will vote Ampelas and just hope they can still win. If it's 5-3, it's still pretty feasible for scum to win since it's pretty unclear the 3rd scum is.
#779
Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:55 PM
Okay I think this is the last count on the beers
And 1450 warm as shit beers thanks to you mother fuckers killing Omtose on the wall, 1450 warm as shit bottles of beer,
Take one down, and pass it around, 1449 warm as shit bottles of beer thanks to you mother fuckers killing Omtose on the wall!
edit: missed changing one ice-cold to warm as shit. Still ranting about that last lynch.
And 1450 warm as shit beers thanks to you mother fuckers killing Omtose on the wall, 1450 warm as shit bottles of beer,
Take one down, and pass it around, 1449 warm as shit bottles of beer thanks to you mother fuckers killing Omtose on the wall!
edit: missed changing one ice-cold to warm as shit. Still ranting about that last lynch.
This post has been edited by Rashan: 18 March 2011 - 10:57 PM

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