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Mafia 71.5 Midnight in Malaysia Spycraft 2.333

#801 User is offline   Galayn Lord 

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 12:47 AM

and just to add to me previous post, with regards to Amp's quote about not being able to kill, which occurred just at the beginning of the day,

View PostAmpelas, on 18 March 2011 - 08:17 PM, said:

wow, well, isn't this lovely.

well, I can tell you for a fact that i'm NOT tiger. I also can't kill.

the way Liosan's been all buddy-buddy with Barg ever since Barg's reveal would suggest that Lio is our Agent.


Here he also suggests Liosan to be scum, yet a couple hours later he does a complete about face on this, as he claims to have got new information,

View PostAmpelas, on 18 March 2011 - 11:23 PM, said:

hrrm
I was out, getting money, since tonight is Friday AND payday.

I didn't really want to do this, but I think this is how Barg is playing us all. '

I also have some info, which I will not say how I got. Liosan is deffo town. he's been in a bunch of scenes, but I won't name him outright, for obvious reasons.
Now since i'm able to get this info, I don't see why Barg wouldn't. my guess is he's a symp with a finder power. this would explain why he was deflectiong so hard off of HP, too.

I DO have certain powers, but that doesn't make me scum. he, otoh, has revealed a number of town players at this point.

Only thing I can do right now (since I KNOW Lio ain't scum) is to

vote Barghast


So either one of Barghast or Ampelas is lying about his ability (or lack thereof) to kill, which needs to be determined, amdAmpelas' shift in his stance with regards to Liosan, ostensibly due to his "new info," conveniently serves to bring him in line with public opinion on Liosan's innocence, just at the time when it is looking like he is about to be lynched.

Barghast may indeed be playing us, but the only way to find out is to test his info which can of course only be done via a lynch. And since even you, Amp, don't seem keen on a Liosan lynch anymore, that only leaves you.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 12:52 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 19 March 2011 - 12:40 AM, said:

If I didn't know you're the one guy who can't possibly be scum, i'd be calling you all kinds of things right now.

Barg's put you in the open, endngering our entire team, and you're saying he's done good?

the way he's playing oyu is just amazing.




Don't worry about me. i'll be ok ;)


Also, are you telling me a scum team has a finder role?? to what end? Scum need to kill they don't need finders. They have to kill us all. They aren't looking for a particular inno. Even if they kill Madame, Otto and Cobalt... sentries can still win the game for us. I can see no reason why scum would have the powers that Barghy is explaining.

Besides, if he is lying, we will know tonight and we can lynch him tomorrow.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 12:54 AM

View PostMerrid, on 19 March 2011 - 12:45 AM, said:

If i knew ruse was town but not sentry does that make me right!


No, it doesn't make you right to me.... but it does make you right to Ruse. Thats the difference. Ruse, at that point would know if you were telling the truth or not and act accordingly.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 12:56 AM

haha. X-post with Gaylord. We both spotted his inconsistencies.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 12:57 AM

I'm off to have a deleyed corn beef and cabbage with the fam damily. I'll be off for a while.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 12:59 AM

lol dammit Rashan.

gonna leave us hanging at L-1 ;)

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 01:17 AM

first post b4 i got home. cant check PMs on phone

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 01:18 AM

cept tomorrow might be too late, Lio.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 01:21 AM

only scum lie. I'm more likely to vote amp now. If i wasn't convinced before i am now, although its weekend freeze so doesn't matter too much when i vote. I'm in bed on phone right now, i don't know how to bold from my phone so will do it in morning.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 01:55 AM

whether you believe me or not, it's up to you guys.

Barg is playing us all, though

anyhow, i'm out for the night. It's Friday, and I got nothing important due next week. I won't be up till late tomorrow.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 02:21 AM

Well I know who Liosan is and I know that he is most definitely town. Right now I think that If Amp isn't Tiger then it is Merrid or Ruse just based off of elimination.

Liosan - Totally Town

Rashan - Town

Korabas - Obviously Town

Barghast - Suspicious Town

Merrid - ?

Ruse - ?

Amp - ? But Can kill

GL - ? Suspicious all game.

I think that scum are HP, Amp and GL

Vote Amp

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 02:21 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 19 March 2011 - 01:55 AM, said:

whether you believe me or not, it's up to you guys.

Barg is playing us all, though

anyhow, i'm out for the night. It's Friday, and I got nothing important due next week. I won't be up till late tomorrow.


If he is then he will get his his.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 02:27 AM

I would also like to point out that GL on day one was accused of symping Amp.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 02:35 AM

Yay, now we wait for the resolution. Still thinking Korabas is the better choice for tomorrow but we'll see what kind of info is out there after night.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 03:01 AM

View PostKorabas, on 19 March 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

Well I know who Liosan is and I know that he is most definitely town. Right now I think that If Amp isn't Tiger then it is Merrid or Ruse just based off of elimination.

Liosan - Totally Town

Rashan - Town

Korabas - Obviously Town

Barghast - Suspicious Town

Merrid - ?

Ruse - ?

Amp - ? But Can kill

GL - ? Suspicious all game.

I think that scum are HP, Amp and GL

Vote Amp


Wow... I did not see this coming. Sorry Korabas

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 05:04 AM

View PostBarghast, on 19 March 2011 - 02:35 AM, said:

Yay, now we wait for the resolution. Still thinking Korabas is the better choice for tomorrow but we'll see what kind of info is out there after night.


Oh we will see. If Amp comes up anything but Tiger......

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 05:07 AM

View PostLiosan, on 19 March 2011 - 03:01 AM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 19 March 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

Well I know who Liosan is and I know that he is most definitely town. Right now I think that If Amp isn't Tiger then it is Merrid or Ruse just based off of elimination.

Liosan - Totally Town

Rashan - Town

Korabas - Obviously Town

Barghast - Suspicious Town

Merrid - ?

Ruse - ?

Amp - ? But Can kill

GL - ? Suspicious all game.

I think that scum are HP, Amp and GL

Vote Amp


Wow... I did not see this coming. Sorry Korabas


If your wrong about Ruse then we are going to be in the shit tomorrow. If Barghast is playing us we lynch him immediately.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 05:19 AM

View PostLiosan, on 19 March 2011 - 12:52 AM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 19 March 2011 - 12:40 AM, said:

If I didn't know you're the one guy who can't possibly be scum, i'd be calling you all kinds of things right now.

Barg's put you in the open, endngering our entire team, and you're saying he's done good?

the way he's playing oyu is just amazing.




Don't worry about me. i'll be ok ;)


Also, are you telling me a scum team has a finder role?? to what end? Scum need to kill they don't need finders. They have to kill us all. They aren't looking for a particular inno. Even if they kill Madame, Otto and Cobalt... sentries can still win the game for us. I can see no reason why scum would have the powers that Barghy is explaining.

Besides, if he is lying, we will know tonight and we can lynch him tomorrow.


Well it was stated in the OP that if certain roled players survive then they get an advantage in the next Spycraft so a role finder would be useful to scum.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 05:22 AM

Liosan if your right about ruse then Merrid or GL are probably scum. GL has been in the shit all game. If he is a symp then he has been playing a ballsy game. Merrid has slid through the game with out getting in any pissing contests. I can see a case for both being scum. Merrid playing a nice low profile game and GL playing a good misdirection game.

Of course if Barghast is pulling one over on us then he is obviously the man of the match. New players should take note. A ballsy fake reveal can make or break a game. But you have to have imagination to see the move and Steel bowling balls for Cojones to pull it off.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 05:36 AM

View PostRashan, on 19 March 2011 - 05:19 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 19 March 2011 - 12:52 AM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 19 March 2011 - 12:40 AM, said:

If I didn't know you're the one guy who can't possibly be scum, i'd be calling you all kinds of things right now.

Barg's put you in the open, endngering our entire team, and you're saying he's done good?

the way he's playing oyu is just amazing.




Don't worry about me. i'll be ok ;)


Also, are you telling me a scum team has a finder role?? to what end? Scum need to kill they don't need finders. They have to kill us all. They aren't looking for a particular inno. Even if they kill Madame, Otto and Cobalt... sentries can still win the game for us. I can see no reason why scum would have the powers that Barghy is explaining.

Besides, if he is lying, we will know tonight and we can lynch him tomorrow.


Well it was stated in the OP that if certain roled players survive then they get an advantage in the next Spycraft so a role finder would be useful to scum.


Kalse coming back as town was what put Barghast in to the town position.

After rereading a little bit

I think that I need to reevaluate my thoughts on the town.

Liosan - Obviously Town

Rashan - Town

Korbas - Obviously Town

Barghast - Probably Town ( If a symp then MOM)

GL - Probably Town ( Could be a ballsy symp)

Ruse - Suspect but Liosan trusts him.

Merrid - ?

Amp - ? But can kill

I don't like ?.

Ok so if something stupid happens to me during the night you guys will know my final thoughts.

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