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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:02 AM

seeingas I wrote scum twice, one of them must mean inno, ;)

the first one., btw.

my head doesn't function well after being at work most of the week.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:03 AM

its a terrible plan for me! lol

i think he meant to say if i turn up innocent then you look suspicious for pushing the lynch.

though i think the only one who actually tried to push the lynch was Lio, and hes using your name to hide behind

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:10 AM

to make myself clearer: if Omtose CFs inno, it makes Barg look more suspicious, though it doesn't make him an outright scum.

If Omtos eis scum, it makes Barg look far more legit as inno.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:11 AM

Lio did his part, ttrue. But Barg's vote #5 can be easily seen as deflecting off HP (who's a big scum-shaped question mark) and onto you.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:13 AM

but what started the votes landing on me today?

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:25 AM

Bargy's reveal. which shifted focus from him.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:38 AM

he shifted the focus on to me even though he didnt really mention me?

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:51 AM

not saying he did.

but, in light of the smoky CF, you were always a question mark.

there's the possibility the smokescreen was used to potentially cloak your CF. it's a WIFOM argument, but it's there. and no matter what you do, it casts SOME suspicion on you. it just wasn't as strong as what Barg did. but, given Barg's reveal, the votes shift tot he next most suspicious thing.

which for some is you.

personally, i'm not sure. I would like to hear more from Merrid, tbh, since he seems to be the most cool-headed one here.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 06:24 AM

Barghast actually shifted the focus on GL or Korabas I believe, even though he hasn't "gathered info" on either of them yet. He never mentioned Omtose. i think Lio threw out his name because Barghasts reveal shed some question as to what Lios true side is.

As the only one to vote GL this whole game I have to agree with Barghast that GL definately needs to be looked at. I'm not so sure about Korabas. I've felt that both Korabas and Ruse has been very under the radar this whole game. I'll have to take a closer look at all three of them tomorrow.

I'm glad I don't have to make any hasty decisions before bed.

Hope everyone enjoyed their St Patrick's Day. I enjoyed a pitcher of beer while being entertained by some great basketball games. The great thing about March Madness is that there is a whole nother day to do it all over again.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 07:37 AM

sorry guys, the server was down for a good few hours yesterday an i went out for patrick's day, i'm typing from my mobile which is a pain. I'l be on in a few hours properly to have a look through but my earlier post is still relevant

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 08:38 AM

Right I am at a computer for 15 minutes. Then I'm out and will be back in around 2 hours roughly..

@Omtose..

If what Barghy says is true which I think it definately could be as I think Liosan is an innocent then HP could well have not been scum, Barghy was deflecting away from HP and he had some good information as to who not to go for..

By voting you, we know whether or not HP was scum, from here we can look at all interaction between HP and other players and you and other players

I am inclined to think that Ruse is also innocent, he has made some good cases and he has not set of my scumdar yet

Kalse is on my list, something seems off about him, i'll have to have time to look through the thread before looking into this further.

I agree with whoever said that GL is acting innocent, he is all over the place yes but he is jumping on to trains and recently makes good points, the only thing that has me thinking otherwise is that he may be jumping on to trains easily because he doesn't want to be lynched himself.

For now, like I said earlier Omtose will give us the most information, especially since there was a night kill after HP's lynch which means the scum was still active.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 08:45 AM

lynching me wont tell you whether or not HP was scum, just whether or not i am

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:13 AM

Catching up, and I must say I'm a little confused. A lot of things have been said that need a thorough read-through.


I see my name popping up here and there, usually as a possible scum, which I sorta get...I'll look into that as well.


well, must catch up!

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 11:18 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 17 March 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

TIGER used the distraction of the gun fight to slip into the mansion, tip-toeing over the ancient oak floorboards, always aware of the possibility they might actually be a nightingale trap. Melting into the shadows, he easily avoided a large group of men rushing to the lead exchange, then was almost discovered by a straggler. He followed the target, so close he could feel the man's body heat at times. Almost casually, he aimed the blowgun he carried on his hip - airgun was perhaps a better word - and squeezed the trigger, releasing the air-pressure and punching a conical poison dart into the neck of his victim, closing his mouth with his other hand and bringing him gently down to the floor.

Osseric is dead. He was Silencer, and Agung Redjosentono, a Syndicate Sentry.

Everyone is now level 1, 10 players remaining.




So someone has been using the Omtose Vs HP debacle as cover for their scummy business. Most of us ignored this player, either he seemed harmless/on our side/ or was simply not there when shit was going down. But one player, the straggler, was on to this player, for at least a little while, almost blowing the scum's cover, while the rest of us were rushing ahead to lynch either Omtose or HP.





View PostBarghast, on 17 March 2011 - 04:46 AM, said:

Well I still think Korabas is the better vote.


View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 01:11 AM, said:

This is ridiculous. You guys are calling me scum over a guy like GL... incredible. I am not scum, and I do not know who is, but I do know some information about some of the other people in the game. I am not going to tell you how this information came to me.


I am reasonably sure (at this point) that Osseric was as close to "RI" as you're going to get in this game. He was a Syndicate Sentry. I believe the Sentries are the "generic" players for the Syndicate. Omtose has indicated he is "RI" and if you believe him, that means he is also a Sentry.

I know for a fact that Liosan is *not* a Sentry and Rashan *is* a Sentry. I don't know if they are Syndicate or Agents. However, I do know that neither one has a killing action. Maybe they didn't start with one and gained it, I can't say. But if you are trying to narrow down your list of suspects to people who have been able to kill, you have to rule out both Liosan and Rashan.

My bet would be on Korabas or GL... just for the stuff I've already said. I'm also somewhat suspicious of Merrid but that's because he's getting no attention. In a game like that, it usually indicates a good ability by the scum to hide their powerful members, but I don't know if it's vote-worthy.



View PostRashan, on 18 March 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

Barghast actually shifted the focus on GL or Korabas I believe, even though he hasn't "gathered info" on either of them yet. He never mentioned Omtose. i think Lio threw out his name because Barghasts reveal shed some question as to what Lios true side is.

As the only one to vote GL this whole game I have to agree with Barghast that GL definately needs to be looked at. I'm not so sure about Korabas. I've felt that both Korabas and Ruse has been very under the radar this whole game. I'll have to take a closer look at all three of them tomorrow.

I'm glad I don't have to make any hasty decisions before bed.

Hope everyone enjoyed their St Patrick's Day. I enjoyed a pitcher of beer while being entertained by some great basketball games. The great thing about March Madness is that there is a whole nother day to do it all over again.



Three names keep cropping up:

Korabas, who did not particpiate in any of the trains. For the first one he was "offline" when all the important stuff happened, and for the second train he placed his vote quite firmly on me, thus explaining his absence from the Omtose Vs HP discussion.

Merrid:Who has been getting almost no attention at all during this game, except for some flak during the first train, and two votes, one of which were switched to Fener later on.

And Ruse, who made a good case in the Omtose vs HP debate, but hasn't really drawn much attention to himself before or after that. His sort of just there.

I think it's probable that one of these three is TIGER...


Anyone else flying under the radar that I've missed?

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 11:42 AM

View PostKalse, on 18 March 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 17 March 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

TIGER used the distraction of the gun fight to slip into the mansion, tip-toeing over the ancient oak floorboards, always aware of the possibility they might actually be a nightingale trap. Melting into the shadows, he easily avoided a large group of men rushing to the lead exchange, then was almost discovered by a straggler. He followed the target, so close he could feel the man's body heat at times. Almost casually, he aimed the blowgun he carried on his hip - airgun was perhaps a better word - and squeezed the trigger, releasing the air-pressure and punching a conical poison dart into the neck of his victim, closing his mouth with his other hand and bringing him gently down to the floor.

Osseric is dead. He was Silencer, and Agung Redjosentono, a Syndicate Sentry.

Everyone is now level 1, 10 players remaining.




So someone has been using the Omtose Vs HP debacle as cover for their scummy business. Most of us ignored this player, either he seemed harmless/on our side/ or was simply not there when shit was going down. But one player, the straggler, was on to this player, for at least a little while, almost blowing the scum's cover, while the rest of us were rushing ahead to lynch either Omtose or HP.





View PostBarghast, on 17 March 2011 - 04:46 AM, said:

Well I still think Korabas is the better vote.


View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 01:11 AM, said:

This is ridiculous. You guys are calling me scum over a guy like GL... incredible. I am not scum, and I do not know who is, but I do know some information about some of the other people in the game. I am not going to tell you how this information came to me.


I am reasonably sure (at this point) that Osseric was as close to "RI" as you're going to get in this game. He was a Syndicate Sentry. I believe the Sentries are the "generic" players for the Syndicate. Omtose has indicated he is "RI" and if you believe him, that means he is also a Sentry.

I know for a fact that Liosan is *not* a Sentry and Rashan *is* a Sentry. I don't know if they are Syndicate or Agents. However, I do know that neither one has a killing action. Maybe they didn't start with one and gained it, I can't say. But if you are trying to narrow down your list of suspects to people who have been able to kill, you have to rule out both Liosan and Rashan.

My bet would be on Korabas or GL... just for the stuff I've already said. I'm also somewhat suspicious of Merrid but that's because he's getting no attention. In a game like that, it usually indicates a good ability by the scum to hide their powerful members, but I don't know if it's vote-worthy.



View PostRashan, on 18 March 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

Barghast actually shifted the focus on GL or Korabas I believe, even though he hasn't "gathered info" on either of them yet. He never mentioned Omtose. i think Lio threw out his name because Barghasts reveal shed some question as to what Lios true side is.

As the only one to vote GL this whole game I have to agree with Barghast that GL definately needs to be looked at. I'm not so sure about Korabas. I've felt that both Korabas and Ruse has been very under the radar this whole game. I'll have to take a closer look at all three of them tomorrow.

I'm glad I don't have to make any hasty decisions before bed.

Hope everyone enjoyed their St Patrick's Day. I enjoyed a pitcher of beer while being entertained by some great basketball games. The great thing about March Madness is that there is a whole nother day to do it all over again.



Three names keep cropping up:

Korabas, who did not particpiate in any of the trains. For the first one he was "offline" when all the important stuff happened, and for the second train he placed his vote quite firmly on me, thus explaining his absence from the Omtose Vs HP discussion.

Merrid:Who has been getting almost no attention at all during this game, except for some flak during the first train, and two votes, one of which were switched to Fener later on.

And Ruse, who made a good case in the Omtose vs HP debate, but hasn't really drawn much attention to himself before or after that. His sort of just there.

I think it's probable that one of these three is TIGER...


Anyone else flying under the radar that I've missed?


Your logic is quite good. However you left yourself out. Yesterday I tried to convince people that you were scum and that you needed to be lynched. Nobody else liked it very much but that scene could be talking about that.
The other one that it could have been talking about is Rashan. He was under no pressure but HP was talking to him about a possible finder role and yesterday he was mentioned as possible scum.

So based on your thoughts TIGER could be half of the remaining players in the game. I agree he could be. He could also be someone like amp or GL or really anyone at all. The scene is ambiguous enough to leave room for any number of theories.

I think that Barghast is probably a symp, and would much rather lynch you then him. But if I need to change my vote to get a lynch I will.

Vote Kalse


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Posted 18 March 2011 - 11:46 AM

10 alive, 6 to lynch, 5 for night.
2 votes for Barghast (Galayn Lord, Omtose)
2 votes for Omtose (Liosan, Merrid)
1 vote for Kalse (Korabas)
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 12:02 PM

we have plenty of time so theres no need to rush anything, ill keep my vote on barghast for now

catch you laters

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 12:15 PM

I got another computer, I will reply to this and then have a look through

View PostOmtose, on 18 March 2011 - 08:45 AM, said:

lynching me wont tell you whether or not HP was scum, just whether or not i am


Omtose, it will tell us if you are scum or innocent, if you are scum then HP was innocent and it backs up Barghy even more, if you are innocent then HP was scum and we caught him leaving only one scum left, that's how I see it. You claim to be RI which was a good way to divert the train elsewhere, people followed you because of this, rather than us hit a roled town player I would prefer to lynch an RI or scum. I will have a look at what other people are saying and see if anything comes up I agree with, but with Barghy's partial reveal it leaves 2-3 players who are innocent that we know of, Liosan, let me find the post

View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 01:11 AM, said:

This is ridiculous. You guys are calling me scum over a guy like GL... incredible. I am not scum, and I do not know who is, but I do know some information about some of the other people in the game. I am not going to tell you how this information came to me.


I am reasonably sure (at this point) that Osseric was as close to "RI" as you're going to get in this game. He was a Syndicate Sentry. I believe the Sentries are the "generic" players for the Syndicate. Omtose has indicated he is "RI" and if you believe him, that means he is also a Sentry.

I know for a fact that Liosan is *not* a Sentry and Rashan *is* a Sentry. I don't know if they are Syndicate or Agents. However, I do know that neither one has a killing action. Maybe they didn't start with one and gained it, I can't say. But if you are trying to narrow down your list of suspects to people who have been able to kill, you have to rule out both Liosan and Rashan.

My bet would be on Korabas or GL... just for the stuff I've already said. I'm also somewhat suspicious of Merrid but that's because he's getting no attention. In a game like that, it usually indicates a good ability by the scum to hide their powerful members, but I don't know if it's vote-worthy.



Okay so if we believe Barghast then Liosan and Rashan are innocent, although just for thought why would he point these two players out for scum to kill? This highlights 2 town players, and if scum do not know each other then it helps them with their kills, that explains in one way why there was no kill night one, they were trying to figure who was on their team. Maybe, anyway I digress, to me Liosan's play has been the most innocent so far, as he is building cases and helping town where he can, Rashan's posts have been full of spam with only a good one coming every now and then.

Why do you think Korabas and GL are more likely to be scum?

I did say when signing up I may not have much time to post or play but will be on when I can, I want lynches like the rest of us and I am looking for the lynches that would give us the most information. For example we could lynch you to find out if you are scum, if you come up innocent then we definately know that Liosan and Rashan are innocent which gives us a better chance coming into endgame, however from what you say it looks like you are a powerful town and if we keep you around we might find out more information.

I am able to switch my vote from Omtose if needed to get a lynch but for now I think his lynch would give us the best information. That's my 2 cents anyway, i'll try and get online later

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 12:36 PM

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 11:42 AM, said:

View PostKalse, on 18 March 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 17 March 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

TIGER used the distraction of the gun fight to slip into the mansion, tip-toeing over the ancient oak floorboards, always aware of the possibility they might actually be a nightingale trap. Melting into the shadows, he easily avoided a large group of men rushing to the lead exchange, then was almost discovered by a straggler. He followed the target, so close he could feel the man's body heat at times. Almost casually, he aimed the blowgun he carried on his hip - airgun was perhaps a better word - and squeezed the trigger, releasing the air-pressure and punching a conical poison dart into the neck of his victim, closing his mouth with his other hand and bringing him gently down to the floor.

Osseric is dead. He was Silencer, and Agung Redjosentono, a Syndicate Sentry.

Everyone is now level 1, 10 players remaining.




So someone has been using the Omtose Vs HP debacle as cover for their scummy business. Most of us ignored this player, either he seemed harmless/on our side/ or was simply not there when shit was going down. But one player, the straggler, was on to this player, for at least a little while, almost blowing the scum's cover, while the rest of us were rushing ahead to lynch either Omtose or HP.





View PostBarghast, on 17 March 2011 - 04:46 AM, said:

Well I still think Korabas is the better vote.


View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 01:11 AM, said:

This is ridiculous. You guys are calling me scum over a guy like GL... incredible. I am not scum, and I do not know who is, but I do know some information about some of the other people in the game. I am not going to tell you how this information came to me.


I am reasonably sure (at this point) that Osseric was as close to "RI" as you're going to get in this game. He was a Syndicate Sentry. I believe the Sentries are the "generic" players for the Syndicate. Omtose has indicated he is "RI" and if you believe him, that means he is also a Sentry.

I know for a fact that Liosan is *not* a Sentry and Rashan *is* a Sentry. I don't know if they are Syndicate or Agents. However, I do know that neither one has a killing action. Maybe they didn't start with one and gained it, I can't say. But if you are trying to narrow down your list of suspects to people who have been able to kill, you have to rule out both Liosan and Rashan.

My bet would be on Korabas or GL... just for the stuff I've already said. I'm also somewhat suspicious of Merrid but that's because he's getting no attention. In a game like that, it usually indicates a good ability by the scum to hide their powerful members, but I don't know if it's vote-worthy.



View PostRashan, on 18 March 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

Barghast actually shifted the focus on GL or Korabas I believe, even though he hasn't "gathered info" on either of them yet. He never mentioned Omtose. i think Lio threw out his name because Barghasts reveal shed some question as to what Lios true side is.

As the only one to vote GL this whole game I have to agree with Barghast that GL definately needs to be looked at. I'm not so sure about Korabas. I've felt that both Korabas and Ruse has been very under the radar this whole game. I'll have to take a closer look at all three of them tomorrow.

I'm glad I don't have to make any hasty decisions before bed.

Hope everyone enjoyed their St Patrick's Day. I enjoyed a pitcher of beer while being entertained by some great basketball games. The great thing about March Madness is that there is a whole nother day to do it all over again.



Three names keep cropping up:

Korabas, who did not particpiate in any of the trains. For the first one he was "offline" when all the important stuff happened, and for the second train he placed his vote quite firmly on me, thus explaining his absence from the Omtose Vs HP discussion.

Merrid:Who has been getting almost no attention at all during this game, except for some flak during the first train, and two votes, one of which were switched to Fener later on.

And Ruse, who made a good case in the Omtose vs HP debate, but hasn't really drawn much attention to himself before or after that. His sort of just there.

I think it's probable that one of these three is TIGER...


Anyone else flying under the radar that I've missed?


Your logic is quite good. However you left yourself out. Yesterday I tried to convince people that you were scum and that you needed to be lynched. Nobody else liked it very much but that scene could be talking about that.
The other one that it could have been talking about is Rashan. He was under no pressure but HP was talking to him about a possible finder role and yesterday he was mentioned as possible scum.

So based on your thoughts TIGER could be half of the remaining players in the game. I agree he could be. He could also be someone like amp or GL or really anyone at all. The scene is ambiguous enough to leave room for any number of theories.

I think that Barghast is probably a symp, and would much rather lynch you then him. But if I need to change my vote to get a lynch I will.

Vote Kalse




Well neither Amp or GL really qualifies as people who're flying under the radar. Rashan is an option yes, but if Barghast's reveal is anything to go by, Rashan is either innocent, or a low-level scum with no killing action (if I read that right?), who might have gained a killing action when we all leveled up, but that was after Osseric died, which sorta rules Rashan out as TIGER.

And yes, in the scene you could be the straggler, and I could be TIGER, but I know it isn't. If a lynch is what is required to prove that, then that's a price I'll pay gladly.

Anyway, if Barghast is innocent, it would be weird for him to "symp" me if I'm scum...

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 01:01 PM

View PostKalse, on 18 March 2011 - 12:36 PM, said:

View PostKorabas, on 18 March 2011 - 11:42 AM, said:

View PostKalse, on 18 March 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 17 March 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

TIGER used the distraction of the gun fight to slip into the mansion, tip-toeing over the ancient oak floorboards, always aware of the possibility they might actually be a nightingale trap. Melting into the shadows, he easily avoided a large group of men rushing to the lead exchange, then was almost discovered by a straggler. He followed the target, so close he could feel the man's body heat at times. Almost casually, he aimed the blowgun he carried on his hip - airgun was perhaps a better word - and squeezed the trigger, releasing the air-pressure and punching a conical poison dart into the neck of his victim, closing his mouth with his other hand and bringing him gently down to the floor.

Osseric is dead. He was Silencer, and Agung Redjosentono, a Syndicate Sentry.

Everyone is now level 1, 10 players remaining.




So someone has been using the Omtose Vs HP debacle as cover for their scummy business. Most of us ignored this player, either he seemed harmless/on our side/ or was simply not there when shit was going down. But one player, the straggler, was on to this player, for at least a little while, almost blowing the scum's cover, while the rest of us were rushing ahead to lynch either Omtose or HP.





View PostBarghast, on 17 March 2011 - 04:46 AM, said:

Well I still think Korabas is the better vote.


View PostBarghast, on 18 March 2011 - 01:11 AM, said:

This is ridiculous. You guys are calling me scum over a guy like GL... incredible. I am not scum, and I do not know who is, but I do know some information about some of the other people in the game. I am not going to tell you how this information came to me.


I am reasonably sure (at this point) that Osseric was as close to "RI" as you're going to get in this game. He was a Syndicate Sentry. I believe the Sentries are the "generic" players for the Syndicate. Omtose has indicated he is "RI" and if you believe him, that means he is also a Sentry.

I know for a fact that Liosan is *not* a Sentry and Rashan *is* a Sentry. I don't know if they are Syndicate or Agents. However, I do know that neither one has a killing action. Maybe they didn't start with one and gained it, I can't say. But if you are trying to narrow down your list of suspects to people who have been able to kill, you have to rule out both Liosan and Rashan.

My bet would be on Korabas or GL... just for the stuff I've already said. I'm also somewhat suspicious of Merrid but that's because he's getting no attention. In a game like that, it usually indicates a good ability by the scum to hide their powerful members, but I don't know if it's vote-worthy.



View PostRashan, on 18 March 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

Barghast actually shifted the focus on GL or Korabas I believe, even though he hasn't "gathered info" on either of them yet. He never mentioned Omtose. i think Lio threw out his name because Barghasts reveal shed some question as to what Lios true side is.

As the only one to vote GL this whole game I have to agree with Barghast that GL definately needs to be looked at. I'm not so sure about Korabas. I've felt that both Korabas and Ruse has been very under the radar this whole game. I'll have to take a closer look at all three of them tomorrow.

I'm glad I don't have to make any hasty decisions before bed.

Hope everyone enjoyed their St Patrick's Day. I enjoyed a pitcher of beer while being entertained by some great basketball games. The great thing about March Madness is that there is a whole nother day to do it all over again.



Three names keep cropping up:

Korabas, who did not particpiate in any of the trains. For the first one he was "offline" when all the important stuff happened, and for the second train he placed his vote quite firmly on me, thus explaining his absence from the Omtose Vs HP discussion.

Merrid:Who has been getting almost no attention at all during this game, except for some flak during the first train, and two votes, one of which were switched to Fener later on.

And Ruse, who made a good case in the Omtose vs HP debate, but hasn't really drawn much attention to himself before or after that. His sort of just there.

I think it's probable that one of these three is TIGER...


Anyone else flying under the radar that I've missed?


Your logic is quite good. However you left yourself out. Yesterday I tried to convince people that you were scum and that you needed to be lynched. Nobody else liked it very much but that scene could be talking about that.
The other one that it could have been talking about is Rashan. He was under no pressure but HP was talking to him about a possible finder role and yesterday he was mentioned as possible scum.

So based on your thoughts TIGER could be half of the remaining players in the game. I agree he could be. He could also be someone like amp or GL or really anyone at all. The scene is ambiguous enough to leave room for any number of theories.

I think that Barghast is probably a symp, and would much rather lynch you then him. But if I need to change my vote to get a lynch I will.

Vote Kalse




Well neither Amp or GL really qualifies as people who're flying under the radar. Rashan is an option yes, but if Barghast's reveal is anything to go by, Rashan is either innocent, or a low-level scum with no killing action (if I read that right?), who might have gained a killing action when we all leveled up, but that was after Osseric died, which sorta rules Rashan out as TIGER.

And yes, in the scene you could be the straggler, and I could be TIGER, but I know it isn't. If a lynch is what is required to prove that, then that's a price I'll pay gladly.

Anyway, if Barghast is innocent, it would be weird for him to "symp" me if I'm scum...


Alright, I'm very much hungover right now, so bear with me, but when rereading Osseric's death, I can't help but wonder if TIGER could not possibly be Omtose? The previous scene with HP really doesn't necessitate Omtose's presence there (though arguably it was implied), and even were he, the smokescreen would have been ample cover for him to slip away. The straggler, in that context, would then not necessarily be a low-poster, but rather someone who only switched their vote away from Omtose to HP towards the very end there, or possibly someone who only voted for Omtose at that late point in the day.

In the latter case, the only two possible people would be either Barghast or Amp, who brought Omtose to L-2 and L-1 respectively. Unlike Barghast, however, Ampelas also fits the criteria for someone who then switched their vote away to HP at the absolute end, as does Kalse (who was one of the very early Omtose voters), and Osseric and rashan, neither of whom voted for Omtose earlier.

Thus, I'm inclined to think that, if we subscribe to the notion that TIGER could be Omtose, that the straggler is either Ampelas or Kalse, though Amp would be the better candidate, as he cast his vote for Omtose almost towards the end of the day, bringing him up to L-1, which I think fits the "almost revealed by a straggler" bit much better then someone who voted for Omtose much earlier in the day, Kalse, even though he "straggled" in switching his vote to HP (his was the 3rd last to do so, and the catalyst for Osseric and Ampelas to cast/switch their votes, respectively).

Perhaps I'm way off base here, but this seems at least somewhat plausible to me in my admittedly highly dishelved state.

We've still got a lot of time left, so I'll check back in a bit later and put some more serious thought into switching my vote.

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