[Hood's Path]

Osseric, on 06 March 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

Hood, on 06 March 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

Also Osseric your suspect list is totally off.



5 Votes for merrid ( korabas, omtose, hood's path, silanah, fener )
7 Votes for korabas ( kalse, galayn lord, merrid, osseric, rashan, barghast, ruse )


You included Omtose, HP, Silanah, but didn't include Fener.

Yeah your filling the thread with all kinds of great nonfearmongering posts.

Ruse's reasons for voting are pathetic (after the reveal) but mine are the most suspect.

Fener voted Merrid post-reveal. I don't see the FM not voting for a revealed fider.

What better way to stay hidden though hmm.

[Hood's Path]

Osseric, on 06 March 2011 - 02:23 AM, said:

Hood, on 06 March 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

Also Osseric your suspect list is totally off.



5 Votes for merrid ( korabas, omtose, hood's path, silanah, fener )
7 Votes for korabas ( kalse, galayn lord, merrid, osseric, rashan, barghast, ruse )


You included Omtose, HP, Silanah, but didn't include Fener.

Yeah your filling the thread with all kinds of great nonfearmongering posts.

Ruse's reasons for voting are pathetic (after the reveal) but mine are the most suspect.

seeing as i'm talking about your pre-reveal vote, we're talking about different things here.
what if ruse was team Craclin playing the faction game?

yor righteousness is pathetic, btw. it's a faction game first and foremost. if the finder's on the other side, you lynch him. period.

Your lack of imagination is pathetic. In a faction game were the lifes can only either poison or heal and the seconds are just captain back ups. Who exactly is a finder going to be finding? Factions or the FM? Give me a break.

[Osseric]

Hood, on 06 March 2011 - 02:30 AM, said:

Osseric, on 06 March 2011 - 02:25 AM, said:

Hood, on 06 March 2011 - 02:20 AM, said:

Oh yeah how much earlier would you have liked for him to have revealed? He revealed before he was at l-1 which is what your suppose to do if you want people to believe you. I am sure that he would have rather not had to reveal at all. Thus allowing for him to find the FM. But he felt he had to reveal and so he did it before being at l-1.


Now I am trying to decide whether to vote for Ruse or Barghast. I think that I will think on it some more and then do so.

if he wants to find the FM, instead of wanting team Jelunga to win, reveal early in the day, when the votes weren't cast yet.
instead, he speareaded the Cracklin hunt, and got bitch-slapped by everyone else for it.

why a finder would stir shit up like that is absolutely beyond me, btw.

YYYYeah that would have been brilliant for him to have revealed earlier in the day. Yeah. Personally if I was a FM finder I wouldn't do that. EVER. Of course if I was him I would have done something else but I can't fault him for doing what he did. If you think about it there is even a certain twisted logic to it.

Anyway it has been brilliant talking to someone I have to go now. But don't let that keep you from posting more incomplete ideas.

Also I light a roughly 8 inch ball of fart gas on fire. Merrid your up.

if he's not ganna reveal, then he should have sat quietly and looked for the FM. instead of getting mired in a faction hunt and becoming a centre of attention.

anyhow, it's almost booze o'clock, so i'm gonna be out for the night.

[Osseric]

Hood, on 06 March 2011 - 02:33 AM, said:

Osseric, on 06 March 2011 - 02:23 AM, said:

Hood, on 06 March 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

Also Osseric your suspect list is totally off.



5 Votes for merrid ( korabas, omtose, hood's path, silanah, fener )
7 Votes for korabas ( kalse, galayn lord, merrid, osseric, rashan, barghast, ruse )


You included Omtose, HP, Silanah, but didn't include Fener.

Yeah your filling the thread with all kinds of great nonfearmongering posts.

Ruse's reasons for voting are pathetic (after the reveal) but mine are the most suspect.

seeing as i'm talking about your pre-reveal vote, we're talking about different things here.
what if ruse was team Craclin playing the faction game?

yor righteousness is pathetic, btw. it's a faction game first and foremost. if the finder's on the other side, you lynch him. period.

Your lack of imagination is pathetic. In a faction game were the lifes can only either poison or heal and the seconds are just captain back ups. Who exactly is a finder going to be finding? Factions or the FM? Give me a break.

if he's gonna vote against my faction, he's a threat. pure and simple.
and if he's gonna start a faction hunt, instead of sitting quietly and doing his job (looking for the FM), he deserves whatever retribution comes his way. first rule of playing finder: do not attrat attention to yourself.
if you do, sooer of later you'll fuck up, get trained and have t reveal. and if your reveal is useless (such as in aq faction game), you'll get lynched, too.

[Fener]

The way I see it is Korabas would've gotten even more derisive comments about his reveal if he'd done it even earlier in the day. IIRC he did it when the votes were 5-4 his way. He couldn't have done it any earlier and expected the train to switch to Merrid, based on the lack of a target to test it on, nor could he have done it any later, because no Zakalwe is going to keep a Jernau at L-1 around regardless of what role he has, and he needed them to look the other way to stay alive.

[Ruse]

Hood, on 06 March 2011 - 02:05 AM, said:

Osseric, on 06 March 2011 - 12:18 AM, said:

of these, HP's post is esp suspicious. he makes a lot of noise saying how he's not trusting anyone, especially Ampelas....and then he votes Merrid based on Ampelas' reveal.

You really are a trip aren't you. I find it much more likely that either Ruse or Barghast are the FM then anyone else. I also love how you first pick several people who voted for Merrid before Korbas revealed then the two who voted for him after his reveal. What about all of the other people who voted for Korabas. You don't find any of them suspicious. Covering much.

Actually of everyone who hung back and waited and waited to vote for Korabas. The one who stands out ( I am surprised that you didn't see this) for me is Ruse. Both Korabas, myself, Silanah all called him out about voting. I think that even Merrid did once to. After all he was on for almost the whole thing and finally only voted after the reveal. But you find me more suspicious then Ruse. Give me a break.

Of course I stand out, I hammered Korabas. Somebody had to do it. If I had bought his reveal, I would have voted differently. I didn't. Sure, you guys were trying to get me to vote earlier, but it wouldn't have mattered at that time, because we still waited for the others to get on. We could still be waiting because Liosan didn't vote. As far as betting goes, I like to be reasonably sure before I lay down credits.

[Ruse]

Hood, on 06 March 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

Also Osseric your suspect list is totally off.



5 Votes for merrid ( korabas, omtose, hood's path, silanah, fener )
7 Votes for korabas ( kalse, galayn lord, merrid, osseric, rashan, barghast, ruse )


You included Omtose, HP, Silanah, but didn't include Fener.

Yeah your filling the thread with all kinds of great nonfearmongering posts.

Ruse's reasons for voting are pathetic (after the reveal) but mine are the most suspect.

I don't see how my reasons are "pathetic" - wish you had qualified your statement instead of just condemning. I shall explain.

Ruse, on 05 March 2011 - 12:39 PM, said:

Be nice, Kalse. Its been sleepy time here.

For:
Seconding Team J, imo
Fake Reveal - FM is factioned? Game breaker.
If its true, FM will get him anyway.

I was tempted, but lovely debunk from team K made it seem super weak. Info from CF will be helpful.

Vote Korabas

1. I've been watching Korabas since early in the game. He acted the same way I would if I were second by trying to find his faction, direct them, and cover for the Captain. I saw his team take place, and waited to figure out which faction they were. He did a good job.
2. I didn't believe the reveal. It turned me away from him, and helped me vote. The good discussion didn't hurt either.
If the FM started the game in a faction, he could have been traded or cashed out before getting to NK, which defeats the idea of the FM role, imo.
3. If Korabas wasn't lynched, the FM was killing him, true reveal or not, just to be safe.

[Ruse]

Osseric, on 06 March 2011 - 02:20 AM, said:

faction games don't work quite like that. if the finder's on the other team, let him hang, says I.

as for why i'm selecting people who voted Merrid pre-reveal, it's simple. pre-revel we were playing a simple "lynch Korabas if you're not Jelunga, lynch Merrid if you are" game. so, everyone who veted Merrid is a potential Jelunga. and well, since Korabas is telling us one of them is the FM.....

otoh, after the reveal, it'd be in the FMs best interest to get rid of the finder. so, all votes for Korabas post-reveal are likely FMs as well.

as for yourself, HP, why did you vote Merrid?

This part is WIFOM country.

[Omtose]

korabas's made a mistake be revealing, i had already voted but if i hadnt...his reveal looked far to suspicious, but he was on Team J so i supported him, i thought he was a team J trying to get rid of suspicion.

I'm pretty sure the CI we got from his lynch didn't say he was a finder, just that he was team J

and now all the people who said vote for Korabas cos hes bullshitting, are now saying they believe him

why exactly?

whats changed? if you didn't believe him originally, why change your mind now?

my other peeve at the mo, is that at the time of the Lynch team J had at the time 6 players i think? and yet we only had 5 votes against merrid, possible liosan is with us, and maybe he didn't get chance to vote weekend break an all...but the way i understand it team J should of been 100% behind a merrid lynch, it was a faction defining lynch between the 2 major factions

so who is on team J who didn't vote for merrid? if Korabas was telling the truth, which admittedly i doubt, but if you think he did, then the FM is the team J who didn't vote merrid

edit due to drunken spelling

This post has been edited by Omtose: 06 March 2011 - 01:41 PM

[Omtose]

so no one has posted at all in the last 12 hours?

This post has been edited by Omtose: 07 March 2011 - 01:09 AM

[Osseric]

I saw your post b4 I went to work. just got back.


it's a slow, slow SUnday, 'tis true.

[Galayn Lord]

Yeah, t'is a Sunday. Not very lively.

[Hugin & Munin]

Zakalwe is all in - as in ALL in!!!!

Jernau has set the bet at 75.

Kraiklyn bets 100

This post has been edited by Hugin & Munin: 07 March 2011 - 09:46 AM

[Merrid]

Hugin & Munin, on 07 March 2011 - 09:26 AM, said:

Zakalwe is all in - as in ALL in!!!!

Jernau has set the bet at 75.

Kraiklyn bets 100

I ended up getting busy this weekend, but I'm around now and I should be for awhile. First I want to say, this post is interesting. I guess we were obviously mistaken back on Day 1 when we thought they went all in. And really, that kind of makes sense - if you go all in, you wager all your credits. If you lose all your credits, the rules say you die. So a Captain who goes all in must have nothing else to lose (I guess we were right, at least, about Captain Z being the last member of his team).

[Ruse]

Merrid, on 07 March 2011 - 03:59 PM, said:

Hugin & Munin, on 07 March 2011 - 09:26 AM, said:

Zakalwe is all in - as in ALL in!!!!

Jernau has set the bet at 75.

Kraiklyn bets 100

I ended up getting busy this weekend, but I'm around now and I should be for awhile. First I want to say, this post is interesting. I guess we were obviously mistaken back on Day 1 when we thought they went all in. And really, that kind of makes sense - if you go all in, you wager all your credits. If you lose all your credits, the rules say you die. So a Captain who goes all in must have nothing else to lose (I guess we were right, at least, about Captain Z being the last member of his team).

Or he's bet the second and himself

[Hugin & Munin]

Jernau Morat Gurgeh looks at the flop and then looks around the table. He stares at Kraiklyn who shows no expression and then glances at Cheradenine who has his head in his hands. At this Jernau smiles, this will be a good hands he thinks. He casually throws in 75 credits.

Kraiklyn looks at the flop and then his own cards, he is trying to keep his best poker face, he throws down raises the bet to 100 credits.

Cheradenine Zakalw cannot believe his rotten look, he has nothing and has had nothing throughout, no hand, none, he tries to cope with this devastating hand by bluffing, bets everything he has including himself in hope of getting the other captains to fold.

Jernau scratches his beard, his predator instincts are ringing alarm bells in his head, he thinks about raising but throws in a call, not knowing why Zakalw would throw away his life so easily.

There is complete silence in the orbital vavatch. They all flip over their cards.

2 pair shouts Jernau, trips replies Kraiklyn both sets of eyes turn to Zakalw who is pleading with his second, as they touch they both seem to melt into each other, brains leaking out of their eyes and ears, blood dripping from their noses. The second's neck bulges outwards windpipe crushed with the immense force of Zakalw's dying hands. They melt upon the chair leaving nothing but congealed steaming blood.

Rashan and Liosan are dead. They are of the Zakalw Faction

Its day 4

10 Players still alive: barghast, fener, galayn lord, hood's path, kalse, merrid, omtose, osseric, ruse, silanah

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: barghast, fener, galayn lord, hood's path, kalse, liosan, merrid, omtose, osseric, rashan, ruse, silanah

The captains will receive their cards and the winning faction will receive their credits + any lifes bet. When they decide what to do with them I will let you know.

Amp

[Hood's Path]

Well if the fm is a life then he just got transferred to the k faction. Might be a good idea to cash that life in.

Also a little surprised that the z factions second was still alive.

[Merrid]

Looks like you were right, Ruse. Team Z is finally out of the running. And it looks like Captain K won the hand? If by some miracle Korabas was telling the truth about the FM, whoever is about to be traded from J to K is the FM. I need to do a reread with the identities of Team Z in mind.

[Silanah]

i'm here. Got a lot of catching up to do after a long weekend.

[Silanah]

Hood, on 07 March 2011 - 05:23 PM, said:

Well if the fm is a life then he just got transferred to the k faction. Might be a good idea to cash that life in.

Also a little surprised that the z factions second was still alive.

Well, if this is true I am pretty sure I know who the FM is. the problem is, if the numbers are how I think they are... It wouldn't benefit my team to kill him as I think we are down in numbers. If he is gone, then we are out numbered and lose... such a dilema!