[Ampelas]

Ruse, on 01 March 2011 - 08:49 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:45 PM, said:

Ruse, on 01 March 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:38 PM, said:

Ruse, on 01 March 2011 - 08:15 PM, said:

Rants aside, I don't think Ampelas is the FM. I haven't seen a good case yet and he's been too active for two days. I do suspect he may be a second in a faction, seems to be making the noise and holding attention so the captain can lurk & act.

Have we found a part of a faction with this alliance between Silanah & Barghast?

what do you mean?

Which part?

the second part

Two relatively low posters jump up and start pushing together against one who has pointed at them. Seem awfully cooperative.

add osseric to this little triangle and then you could have 3 people in the same faction backing each other up

[Barghast]

Well I don't necessarily agree with all of Silanah's points (GL's vote after Korabas' wasn't really any fishier than most of the other votes yesterday, my own included), I have so far found her accusations against Amp to be pretty accurate (though like most day 2 cases, heavily speculation based, but that can't be helped). So why wouldn't I give a little agreement to reinforce for Amp that he's not making any friends screaming at us and OMGUS voting?

[Ampelas]

Barghast, I was going to vote silanah today, early on and thought i'd wait to see what was said, nothing she said has convinced me.. so far as OMGUS goes then I can see the case she tried to build against me as just that, the lies in her post make her seem fishy and you backing her up doesn't make you look good either

[Silanah]

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

well how stupid can Silanah be? Finger pointing at me for trying to find who i'm supposed to find? Is Silanah above you in command? Is that why you are thinking its a stupid vote? why not silanah over the 15 others? We don't know do we? I know she isn't above me, i hope she isn't in my faction because rather than actually look for someone who is acting strange and weird, she points the finger at me for n o reason but the fact that i'm stirring things up a bit.

Osseric too, what help has he had other than come on and point the finger my way. Take all my posts away and this would just be utter thread death at the moment, if you think me captain then vote me, if you think me fm then vote me rather than sit back and wait until everyone else has voted and then just joining the majority, make up your own mind and vote for who you think is not on your faction and for your own reasons

And there is the idiocy of your logic you dumbass. You have as much as admitted you arent on Team Z who is down. The chances of me being on the 3 person team is slim. So you are basically basing your vote on a coin flip of whether I am on your team or not because I posted 2 times yestersday on a day when my RL didn't allow me to post? If you are as low as you say you are, no one is going to vote with you for fear of hitting someone on their own team and because no one else knows who you are. Sure you are stirring the pot, but you are likely as not to hurt your own team as you are to hurt your opposition. With your reckless play style and lack of regard for how it could affect your team I sure hope you aren't on my team.

[Silanah]

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:54 PM, said:

Ruse, on 01 March 2011 - 08:49 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:45 PM, said:

Ruse, on 01 March 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:38 PM, said:

Ruse, on 01 March 2011 - 08:15 PM, said:

Rants aside, I don't think Ampelas is the FM. I haven't seen a good case yet and he's been too active for two days. I do suspect he may be a second in a faction, seems to be making the noise and holding attention so the captain can lurk & act.

Have we found a part of a faction with this alliance between Silanah & Barghast?

what do you mean?

Which part?

the second part

Two relatively low posters jump up and start pushing together against one who has pointed at them. Seem awfully cooperative.

add osseric to this little triangle and then you could have 3 people in the same faction backing each other up

Then there is this little fearmonger post... Don't speak your mind against Ampleas or you will be lumped into his ever growing group of evil shapes that must be scum. Way to pigeonhole people there.

[Silanah]

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 09:02 PM, said:

Barghast, I was going to vote silanah today, early on and thought i'd wait to see what was said, nothing she said has convinced me.. so far as OMGUS goes then I can see the case she tried to build against me as just that, the lies in her post make her seem fishy and you backing her up doesn't make you look good either

ummmm, what lies are those again?

[Ampelas]

Silanah, on 01 March 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

well how stupid can Silanah be? Finger pointing at me for trying to find who i'm supposed to find? Is Silanah above you in command? Is that why you are thinking its a stupid vote? why not silanah over the 15 others? We don't know do we? I know she isn't above me, i hope she isn't in my faction because rather than actually look for someone who is acting strange and weird, she points the finger at me for n o reason but the fact that i'm stirring things up a bit.

Osseric too, what help has he had other than come on and point the finger my way. Take all my posts away and this would just be utter thread death at the moment, if you think me captain then vote me, if you think me fm then vote me rather than sit back and wait until everyone else has voted and then just joining the majority, make up your own mind and vote for who you think is not on your faction and for your own reasons

And there is the idiocy of your logic you dumbass. You have as much as admitted you arent on Team Z who is down. The chances of me being on the 3 person team is slim. So you are basically basing your vote on a coin flip of whether I am on your team or not because I posted 2 times yestersday on a day when my RL didn't allow me to post? If you are as low as you say you are, no one is going to vote with you for fear of hitting someone on their own team and because no one else knows who you are. Sure you are stirring the pot, but you are likely as not to hurt your own team as you are to hurt your opposition. With your reckless play style and lack of regard for how it could affect your team I sure hope you aren't on my team.

well i'm not on team z if that is fm you idiot, i haven't let on what faction i'm in, where has that come from, see you just full of lies, why are you lying, why can't you look elsewhere? Because I have a vote on you that's why, your blinded by your own stupidity!!

[Korabas]

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:52 PM, said:

Korabas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:42 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 March 2011 - 02:29 PM, said:

Liosan, on 01 March 2011 - 02:23 PM, said:

Fener, on 01 March 2011 - 02:02 PM, said:

Sorry guys was very busy today and my internet decided to fuck up as well, so haven't been able to get on for yonks. Finally got it working though.

That Tiam lynch was...interesting. Was a veritable pile-on after the first couple of votes, and for not much of a reason that I could see *shrugs*. That avatar-switch-FM thing was utterly ludicrous as well, could be construed as over-zealousness, i.e. FM trying to throw suspicion off on others.

Also, you're naked Sorrit.

The mechanics of this game makes it very suspectible to pile-ons as you term them. It also makes people seemingly unwilling to vote, which is understandable. It's nice to see you turn up, but now I dunnow what to do

Hmm, that's true, I guess I was expecting people to be more circumspect with throwing their vote around, as you only get one and lynching blindly gives a ~1/3 chance of hitting a teammate. Looking back it seems the primary motives from about vote 3 was to cash in for some chips? Still dunno why Tiam was picked by Korabas though, seems as though he picked him out of a hat.

Yes my vote was entirely random. I wasn't joking about flipping the coin. I felt fairly confident that a purely random coin flip wouldn't take out one of the two main members of my faction. Though you are right that I could have taken out one of my teammates. But who would reveal which faction they are in? As soon as you do then roughly 2/3 of the remaining players would be gunning for you. They only way people would be willing to reveal which faction they are in is when one faction has more players then the other two combined. At that point they would control the voting block. A fake reveal wouldn't fly either at that stage because the captain would know exactly who is on their team and would know if someone if lying. I just didn't see any way to get information about anyone other than a purely random shot in the dark.

The captains do not know who is in their team, I asked the mods. They do not know who is on their team. At the moment, the faction count is 3 6 and 4 so it is close to being the majority already. However, if the captain loses a bet then one of the other factions can recruit from their team which means this is not as cut and dry as one would seem

I would have sworn that I read that the captains knew all the members of their team.

[Silanah]

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 09:02 PM, said:

Barghast, I was going to vote silanah today, early on and thought i'd wait to see what was said, nothing she said has convinced me.. so far as OMGUS goes then I can see the case she tried to build against me as just that, the lies in her post make her seem fishy and you backing her up doesn't make you look good either

Also, you made up your mind to vote me, on day 2 early on... wtf game are you playing here? "hmmm I thought Merrid looked fishy day one based off his few posts. I am voting him today." great logic there. Does it work for me as well? What a crock. You are trying to convince us you are playing for a team when you make up your mind to vote based on 2 Posts... wtf dude 2 posts ON DAY 1??? If you aren't the FM you are certainly no good for your team.

[Ampelas]

Silanah, on 01 March 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

well how stupid can Silanah be? Finger pointing at me for trying to find who i'm supposed to find? Is Silanah above you in command? Is that why you are thinking its a stupid vote? why not silanah over the 15 others? We don't know do we? I know she isn't above me, i hope she isn't in my faction because rather than actually look for someone who is acting strange and weird, she points the finger at me for n o reason but the fact that i'm stirring things up a bit.

Osseric too, what help has he had other than come on and point the finger my way. Take all my posts away and this would just be utter thread death at the moment, if you think me captain then vote me, if you think me fm then vote me rather than sit back and wait until everyone else has voted and then just joining the majority, make up your own mind and vote for who you think is not on your faction and for your own reasons

And there is the idiocy of your logic you dumbass. You have as much as admitted you arent on Team Z who is down. The chances of me being on the 3 person team is slim. So you are basically basing your vote on a coin flip of whether I am on your team or not because I posted 2 times yestersday on a day when my RL didn't allow me to post? If you are as low as you say you are, no one is going to vote with you for fear of hitting someone on their own team and because no one else knows who you are. Sure you are stirring the pot, but you are likely as not to hurt your own team as you are to hurt your opposition. With your reckless play style and lack of regard for how it could affect your team I sure hope you aren't on my team.

reckless playstyle just looks like you are calculating and full of it. Knowing what buttons to press and what things to say to try and manipulate what others are thinking, i hope i'm not on your team

[Silanah]

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 02:38 PM, said:

with Galayns vote, he probably knew tiamatha as the person above him so wanted to give an extra option, just because tiam turned out to be a life does not mean Galayn could not have been below him still.

my bet is that Galayn is also in the Zakalwe Faction but just a low life.

This is the post I am refering to Amp. You basically out GL as a Zakalwe. You wouldn't do that if you were also Zakalwe. Meaning you are either FM or one of the other 2 teams.

[Korabas]

Man I wish I had more time to join the debate but my time is up for now. I'm still foggy on why Amp is after Silanah. I'll need to do reread to see if I can see each others point of view. Also I would like to know why I seem to be confused on a couple points. Amp made a post about the credit distribution of each player that looked different from what I saw as well.

[Silanah]

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 09:11 PM, said:

Silanah, on 01 March 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

well how stupid can Silanah be? Finger pointing at me for trying to find who i'm supposed to find? Is Silanah above you in command? Is that why you are thinking its a stupid vote? why not silanah over the 15 others? We don't know do we? I know she isn't above me, i hope she isn't in my faction because rather than actually look for someone who is acting strange and weird, she points the finger at me for n o reason but the fact that i'm stirring things up a bit.

Osseric too, what help has he had other than come on and point the finger my way. Take all my posts away and this would just be utter thread death at the moment, if you think me captain then vote me, if you think me fm then vote me rather than sit back and wait until everyone else has voted and then just joining the majority, make up your own mind and vote for who you think is not on your faction and for your own reasons

And there is the idiocy of your logic you dumbass. You have as much as admitted you arent on Team Z who is down. The chances of me being on the 3 person team is slim. So you are basically basing your vote on a coin flip of whether I am on your team or not because I posted 2 times yestersday on a day when my RL didn't allow me to post? If you are as low as you say you are, no one is going to vote with you for fear of hitting someone on their own team and because no one else knows who you are. Sure you are stirring the pot, but you are likely as not to hurt your own team as you are to hurt your opposition. With your reckless play style and lack of regard for how it could affect your team I sure hope you aren't on my team.

well i'm not on team z if that is fm you idiot, i haven't let on what faction i'm in, where has that come from, see you just full of lies, why are you lying, why can't you look elsewhere? Because I have a vote on you that's why, your blinded by your own stupidity!!

huh? I haven't placed a vote yet. Who says I am not looking elsewhere? There is a 50/50 chance you are on my team. I am taking that into account when placing my vote. So whose the stupid one? The one who is making a logical decision, or the one who is posibbly voting for his own team and shitting on the thread with crass name calling and blatant lies?

[Ampelas]

Silanah, on 01 March 2011 - 09:17 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 02:38 PM, said:

with Galayns vote, he probably knew tiamatha as the person above him so wanted to give an extra option, just because tiam turned out to be a life does not mean Galayn could not have been below him still.

my bet is that Galayn is also in the Zakalwe Faction but just a low life.

This is the post I am refering to Amp. You basically out GL as a Zakalwe. You wouldn't do that if you were also Zakalwe. Meaning you are either FM or one of the other 2 teams.

So what if I did, if I was captain or second of the same faction I would point this out wouldn't i? that distances myself from that group but alas every post I have posted has been due to something on thread, looking for irregularities. I don't care what you think, i think you are the one that is building your case on who the fm is when by your own logic that should be you because you are talking about it. My logic would be that someone important or with a power role would not draw attention to themselves and when they get attention they try and and build a case against that person, this is what i think you are doing, i think you are someone important within the game and i would like to see you lynched. I have put my vote on you because of the way you played over the last 36 hours, you're not doing anything to convinve me that you're not a high roled player and your pathetic attempts to target me only make me more suspicious of you. I am a life, i have nothing to lose what have you got to lose eh?

[Silanah]

Anyway, I am done with amp for now. This is not productive and the fact that I might be arguing with someone on my team is stupid. I'll let sleeping idiots lie for now.

Going to get food. Back in a bit.

[Galayn Lord]

Wow some pages to catch up on. Hope I didn't miss too much; I was not on at all last night.

[Ampelas]

Silanah, on 01 March 2011 - 09:20 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 09:11 PM, said:

Silanah, on 01 March 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

well how stupid can Silanah be? Finger pointing at me for trying to find who i'm supposed to find? Is Silanah above you in command? Is that why you are thinking its a stupid vote? why not silanah over the 15 others? We don't know do we? I know she isn't above me, i hope she isn't in my faction because rather than actually look for someone who is acting strange and weird, she points the finger at me for n o reason but the fact that i'm stirring things up a bit.

Osseric too, what help has he had other than come on and point the finger my way. Take all my posts away and this would just be utter thread death at the moment, if you think me captain then vote me, if you think me fm then vote me rather than sit back and wait until everyone else has voted and then just joining the majority, make up your own mind and vote for who you think is not on your faction and for your own reasons

And there is the idiocy of your logic you dumbass. You have as much as admitted you arent on Team Z who is down. The chances of me being on the 3 person team is slim. So you are basically basing your vote on a coin flip of whether I am on your team or not because I posted 2 times yestersday on a day when my RL didn't allow me to post? If you are as low as you say you are, no one is going to vote with you for fear of hitting someone on their own team and because no one else knows who you are. Sure you are stirring the pot, but you are likely as not to hurt your own team as you are to hurt your opposition. With your reckless play style and lack of regard for how it could affect your team I sure hope you aren't on my team.

well i'm not on team z if that is fm you idiot, i haven't let on what faction i'm in, where has that come from, see you just full of lies, why are you lying, why can't you look elsewhere? Because I have a vote on you that's why, your blinded by your own stupidity!!

huh? I haven't placed a vote yet. Who says I am not looking elsewhere? There is a 50/50 chance you are on my team. I am taking that into account when placing my vote. So whose the stupid one? The one who is making a logical decision, or the one who is posibbly voting for his own team and shitting on the thread with crass name calling and blatant lies?

take the moral high ground why don't you and then kick the stool from underneath yourself. 50 50 chance? how do you work that one out? now are you saying that your on the team with 6 players is that what you are saying, are you taking a gamble there, you just outed me for saying i'm not on the small team and then said that, if you were on the small team then the odds that i'm on your team would be 2 out of 15. If you are on the team with 4 players then the odds would be 3 out of 15, 1 in 5, and then the big team, the one with 6 then it would be 5 out of 15 so 1 in 3, so where are you getting your odds from?

[Galayn Lord]

Liosan, on 01 March 2011 - 02:41 PM, said:

I cannot for the life of me remember a game where someone were lynched as a result of being alted. At least not in a serious game and especially not on day 1.

To me, GL's vote seemed like a clumsy attempt by a symp (yeah yeah, no symps and all that but faction members function as the same) to draw attention away from a vote on his master. It was in my opinion (duh) as good a basis for a vote as any.

edit: meant for Ampelas post following my previous one. Yes, the quote function might be a good idea. Also, I've got to go.

I can see the logic behind this vote. More than I put in when deciding my vote. Figured probability was on my side, so I threw out a vote to see what it became. As it is, it became a 5 credit loss for me

What's this with amp and silanah? Going to read up some more!

[Barghast]

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:

Silanah, on 01 March 2011 - 09:20 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 09:11 PM, said:

Silanah, on 01 March 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 08:08 PM, said:

well how stupid can Silanah be? Finger pointing at me for trying to find who i'm supposed to find? Is Silanah above you in command? Is that why you are thinking its a stupid vote? why not silanah over the 15 others? We don't know do we? I know she isn't above me, i hope she isn't in my faction because rather than actually look for someone who is acting strange and weird, she points the finger at me for n o reason but the fact that i'm stirring things up a bit.

Osseric too, what help has he had other than come on and point the finger my way. Take all my posts away and this would just be utter thread death at the moment, if you think me captain then vote me, if you think me fm then vote me rather than sit back and wait until everyone else has voted and then just joining the majority, make up your own mind and vote for who you think is not on your faction and for your own reasons

And there is the idiocy of your logic you dumbass. You have as much as admitted you arent on Team Z who is down. The chances of me being on the 3 person team is slim. So you are basically basing your vote on a coin flip of whether I am on your team or not because I posted 2 times yestersday on a day when my RL didn't allow me to post? If you are as low as you say you are, no one is going to vote with you for fear of hitting someone on their own team and because no one else knows who you are. Sure you are stirring the pot, but you are likely as not to hurt your own team as you are to hurt your opposition. With your reckless play style and lack of regard for how it could affect your team I sure hope you aren't on my team.

well i'm not on team z if that is fm you idiot, i haven't let on what faction i'm in, where has that come from, see you just full of lies, why are you lying, why can't you look elsewhere? Because I have a vote on you that's why, your blinded by your own stupidity!!

huh? I haven't placed a vote yet. Who says I am not looking elsewhere? There is a 50/50 chance you are on my team. I am taking that into account when placing my vote. So whose the stupid one? The one who is making a logical decision, or the one who is posibbly voting for his own team and shitting on the thread with crass name calling and blatant lies?

take the moral high ground why don't you and then kick the stool from underneath yourself. 50 50 chance? how do you work that one out? now are you saying that your on the team with 6 players is that what you are saying, are you taking a gamble there, you just outed me for saying i'm not on the small team and then said that, if you were on the small team then the odds that i'm on your team would be 2 out of 15. If you are on the team with 4 players then the odds would be 3 out of 15, 1 in 5, and then the big team, the one with 6 then it would be 5 out of 15 so 1 in 3, so where are you getting your odds from?

Amp, it should be obvious that Sil is simplifying the math to 1/3 chance for each faction, and since she believes you aren't from the Z team it makes for a 50/50 of the other teams. It's obvious what she's thinking regardless of the correctness. Your math is slightly more correct, but neither of you's counting 2 FMs anyway so you're both wrong from the mathematical perspective.

[Barghast]

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 09:24 PM, said:

Silanah, on 01 March 2011 - 09:17 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 01 March 2011 - 02:38 PM, said:

with Galayns vote, he probably knew tiamatha as the person above him so wanted to give an extra option, just because tiam turned out to be a life does not mean Galayn could not have been below him still.

my bet is that Galayn is also in the Zakalwe Faction but just a low life.

This is the post I am refering to Amp. You basically out GL as a Zakalwe. You wouldn't do that if you were also Zakalwe. Meaning you are either FM or one of the other 2 teams.

So what if I did, if I was captain or second of the same faction I would point this out wouldn't i? that distances myself from that group but alas every post I have posted has been due to something on thread, looking for irregularities. I don't care what you think, i think you are the one that is building your case on who the fm is when by your own logic that should be you because you are talking about it. My logic would be that someone important or with a power role would not draw attention to themselves and when they get attention they try and and build a case against that person, this is what i think you are doing, i think you are someone important within the game and i would like to see you lynched. I have put my vote on you because of the way you played over the last 36 hours, you're not doing anything to convinve me that you're not a high roled player and your pathetic attempts to target me only make me more suspicious of you. I am a life, i have nothing to lose what have you got to lose eh?

I really hope if you were a captain or second of Z that you wouldn't just randomly out a player of your faction to "distance" when no one else has even spoken of his alignment yet. [8)