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#261 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:22 PM

View PostSorrit, on 01 March 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

Or Jernau becomes a target as the largest group, to keep things balanced.


Each Faction started like this

Captain (100 credits)
Second (50 credits)
Life (10 credits)
Life (10 credits)
Life (10 credits)

It is safe to say that Zakalwe now has 3 players left, one of these possibly being Galayn.

Kraiklyn now has 4 players as at the start of the day each captain bet a life

this life joins Jernau to give them 6 players

This also pops a thought into my head, if there are 17 players then there must be 2 FM's? Dibs states that there are 5 players in each faction and then his first post mentions that there are 17 players.

2 FM's, i'd never thought of that.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:27 PM

So how would two FM's change things?

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:31 PM

It would increase our chances of getting one of them :unsure:

i'm unsure, it obviously helps them because they can go after different players, but no one has been killed out of the ordinary as of yet, one lynch, one failed bet and one recruit, I would say that they will come into action tonight, the actions go like this

Guard -Find - Heal - Poison - Kill - Prepare - Replace

therefore a captain maybe able to guard and find maybe?

with the FM preparing on night one and then replacing on night two?

if there are 2 fms then we need to try and catch one today before they can infiltrate our factions

It may not affect the game early on but late on it will have a bigger effect

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:32 PM

View PostSorrit, on 01 March 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

So how would two FM's change things?


Well for one it means that we no faction has a majority yet.

I figure that it will take two nights for the FM's to work and at best two nights for poisoners to work. So at the start of day 3 we could have a lot of kills.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:32 PM

what are your thoughts?

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:35 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 01 March 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

It would increase our chances of getting one of them :unsure:

i'm unsure, it obviously helps them because they can go after different players, but no one has been killed out of the ordinary as of yet, one lynch, one failed bet and one recruit, I would say that they will come into action tonight, the actions go like this

Guard -Find - Heal - Poison - Kill - Prepare - Replace

therefore a captain maybe able to guard and find maybe?

with the FM preparing on night one and then replacing on night two?

if there are 2 fms then we need to try and catch one today before they can infiltrate our factions

It may not affect the game early on but late on it will have a bigger effect


They probably won't know each other so they could go for the same player. It has happened before. From what I remember when that happened they canceled each other out and were forced to start all over again. If a Fm can't move on the second day it makes it very very hard for them to move at all. Players will be posting more and it will be harder for a fm to replace someone and not get found out.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:39 PM

View PostHood, on 01 March 2011 - 03:35 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 01 March 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

It would increase our chances of getting one of them :unsure:

i'm unsure, it obviously helps them because they can go after different players, but no one has been killed out of the ordinary as of yet, one lynch, one failed bet and one recruit, I would say that they will come into action tonight, the actions go like this

Guard -Find - Heal - Poison - Kill - Prepare - Replace

therefore a captain maybe able to guard and find maybe?

with the FM preparing on night one and then replacing on night two?

if there are 2 fms then we need to try and catch one today before they can infiltrate our factions

It may not affect the game early on but late on it will have a bigger effect


They probably won't know each other so they could go for the same player. It has happened before. From what I remember when that happened they cancelled each other out and were forced to start all over again. If a Fm can't move on the second day it makes it very very hard for them to move at all. Players will be posting more and it will be harder for a fm to replace someone and not get found out.


well HP, you've been the big baddy on the last 2 occasions, so you post more and more and i'll keep my beady eyes on you.

As for the captains, well they are the ones least likely to draw attention yet ready to spring once they are called out, 2 people come to mind at the moment, Osseric and Silanah. What are your thoughts HP and yours Sorrit?

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:41 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 01 March 2011 - 03:32 PM, said:

what are your thoughts?


I am not to sure how to proceed. At this point there are a lot of bodies who could be a FM. So do we try to focus on them and try to take that threat away from our captains or do we try to go after one of the factions and help our captain's win as quickly as possible. I am leaning toward taking out factions but that is just because I have no idea how to find a Fm till after they have moved.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:44 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 01 March 2011 - 03:39 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 01 March 2011 - 03:35 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 01 March 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

It would increase our chances of getting one of them :unsure:

i'm unsure, it obviously helps them because they can go after different players, but no one has been killed out of the ordinary as of yet, one lynch, one failed bet and one recruit, I would say that they will come into action tonight, the actions go like this

Guard -Find - Heal - Poison - Kill - Prepare - Replace

therefore a captain maybe able to guard and find maybe?

with the FM preparing on night one and then replacing on night two?

if there are 2 fms then we need to try and catch one today before they can infiltrate our factions

It may not affect the game early on but late on it will have a bigger effect


They probably won't know each other so they could go for the same player. It has happened before. From what I remember when that happened they cancelled each other out and were forced to start all over again. If a Fm can't move on the second day it makes it very very hard for them to move at all. Players will be posting more and it will be harder for a fm to replace someone and not get found out.


well HP, you've been the big baddy on the last 2 occasions, so you post more and more and i'll keep my beady eyes on you.

As for the captains, well they are the ones least likely to draw attention yet ready to spring once they are called out, 2 people come to mind at the moment, Osseric and Silanah. What are your thoughts HP and yours Sorrit?


Right because the same alts are bad guys game in and game out. :)

Honestly I haven't seen enough posts from either one to have a judgment.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:45 PM

Amp I get all kinds of nervous when people just keep asking for opinions while not stepping out themselves.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:45 PM

that is going to be tough once they move though because of the fact there are low posters. I have a thought on an FM but it is just a point, i'll quote 2 posts and you tell me what you think?

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:48 PM

View PostMerrid, on 28 February 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

What happen???

Someone set up us the vote.

All your faction are belong to us.


I commented but got no reply

View PostMerrid, on 01 March 2011 - 03:29 AM, said:

So if your life is wagered and lost, do you just switch factions? Or do you die and your money is forfeited to the winner of the pot?

I'm surprised that Zakalwe bet 50 credits before seeing the flop... That's a really aggressive move, regardless if he's bluffing or not. And if Omtose is right and everyone ended up going all in after that first round of betting, then my guess is that this was Zakalwe's intention. Either he's got a pocket pair and is trying to push his advantage, or he's bluffing and wanted to force a confrontation early on, hopefully giving himself equal odds against the other two rather than wait for the next hand and chance someone else getting lucky. Either way, he must think going all-in benefits him somehow...

Regardless, this hand is tense, the winner is going to have a massive advantage over the other factions.

If the Barghast-avatar-FM theory is correct, it was way too easy to spot.

EDIT: Formatting.


his only two posts. yet how different are they?

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:49 PM

View PostHood, on 01 March 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

Amp I get all kinds of nervous when people just keep asking for opinions while not stepping out themselves.


i've made a few points and given a few of my opinions its not like i'm holding back here HP..

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:54 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 01 March 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 28 February 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

What happen???

Someone set up us the vote.

All your faction are belong to us.


I commented but got no reply

View PostMerrid, on 01 March 2011 - 03:29 AM, said:

So if your life is wagered and lost, do you just switch factions? Or do you die and your money is forfeited to the winner of the pot?

I'm surprised that Zakalwe bet 50 credits before seeing the flop... That's a really aggressive move, regardless if he's bluffing or not. And if Omtose is right and everyone ended up going all in after that first round of betting, then my guess is that this was Zakalwe's intention. Either he's got a pocket pair and is trying to push his advantage, or he's bluffing and wanted to force a confrontation early on, hopefully giving himself equal odds against the other two rather than wait for the next hand and chance someone else getting lucky. Either way, he must think going all-in benefits him somehow...

Regardless, this hand is tense, the winner is going to have a massive advantage over the other factions.

If the Barghast-avatar-FM theory is correct, it was way too easy to spot.

EDIT: Formatting.


his only two posts. yet how different are they?


Ahh they are different but he won't be a FM yet unless he started as one. Which based off of those posts I doubt. Still you are right about low posters I would be fine with voting him off.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 04:03 PM

View PostHood, on 01 March 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 01 March 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 28 February 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

What happen???

Someone set up us the vote.

All your faction are belong to us.


I commented but got no reply

View PostMerrid, on 01 March 2011 - 03:29 AM, said:

So if your life is wagered and lost, do you just switch factions? Or do you die and your money is forfeited to the winner of the pot?

I'm surprised that Zakalwe bet 50 credits before seeing the flop... That's a really aggressive move, regardless if he's bluffing or not. And if Omtose is right and everyone ended up going all in after that first round of betting, then my guess is that this was Zakalwe's intention. Either he's got a pocket pair and is trying to push his advantage, or he's bluffing and wanted to force a confrontation early on, hopefully giving himself equal odds against the other two rather than wait for the next hand and chance someone else getting lucky. Either way, he must think going all-in benefits him somehow...

Regardless, this hand is tense, the winner is going to have a massive advantage over the other factions.

If the Barghast-avatar-FM theory is correct, it was way too easy to spot.

EDIT: Formatting.


his only two posts. yet how different are they?


Ahh they are different but he won't be a FM yet unless he started as one. Which based off of those posts I doubt. Still you are right about low posters I would be fine with voting him off.


Kalse 9 Fener 9 Barghast 7 Osseric 4 Galayn Lord 3 Silanah 3 Merrid 2

I'm more inclined to think at least 1 maybe 2 captains are in here and maybe 1 out of the 2 FM's. Usually the higher posters tend to be RI trying to find the opposing captains and FM's, out of these

Galayn Lord looks to be a life, at the moment anyway due to sterring away from Tiam,
Merrid didn't vote I don't get why, especially when he was on when Tiam had quite a few votes on him and looked the best possible lynch
Silanah says this "This is interesting and it looks like someone is steering away from Tiamatha before the mob can descend. Tiam aint my leader so.....

vote Tiamatha" this could be a slip up, possible second, OR she is a captain she then says "My day has been hell. I will be back in full force tomorrow!! Out for a while." where? full force yeah?

edit: removed bold from Silanah's quote

This post has been edited by Ampelas: 01 March 2011 - 04:06 PM


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Posted 01 March 2011 - 04:31 PM

To be fair to Merrid. I didn't vote either.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 04:33 PM

View PostSorrit, on 01 March 2011 - 04:31 PM, said:

To be fair to Merrid. I didn't vote either.


i didn't notice that, why not? if you knew that was where the lynch was going? I'm thinking Merrid is a fairly new player to be honest, that's what vibe i'm getting anyway

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 04:39 PM

I didn't vote because I didn't see it. Timezones and socialising screwed me a little. Could of been easy credits on that train. I thought about jumping on the train early on for the bonus, but wasn't sure it was going to follow through, as a swing could of backlashed onto those early lynchers for a shoddy reason.

Edit to: 'those early lynchers, due to their shoddy reason'.

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 04:55 PM

Checking up in class, from phone. I see we are waiting for bets to resolve, still.

I agree with whomever said amp is likely the fm. More from me in about an hour when i get my lunch break

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 04:56 PM

I had actually intended to vote, but time got away from me and I ended up not being able to check back in till a few hours ago when the lynch had already happened. Early on, I was hesitant to vote Tiam because most of the votes seemed random.

I'm really fond of non-sequiturs.

And I'm going to reread a bit.

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