[Hugin & Munin]

Korabas, on 28 February 2011 - 09:04 PM, said:

I would like to put in my actions

do a find on Barghast

Do a self-heal.

Hopefully being the first to put out a vote doesn't put too big of a target on my head.

noted

[Hugin & Munin]

Ampelas, on 28 February 2011 - 09:24 PM, said:

right i am confused dibs, not going to pretend i'm clever here. Right. Betting, lynches, credits and cards. Each captain bets a life, they don't know who that life is? Each captain accompanies that bet with credits, how does this affect the outcome or what happens with the credits?

okay during a lynch people bet, how does this work? say everyone bets 5 credits and the person is lynched, what happens?

what do the cards symbolise? are they peoples faces? are they our names? i don't "get" the link between all four, sorry if i sound dumb...

thats ok.

no you bet on your lynches.

the captains each receive two cards and are playing a game of poker, except they use their faction members lives as credit and the credit from their faction to bet.

Ampelas, on 28 February 2011 - 09:50 PM, said:

actually i understand a lot more, explain the cards mainly, just read, re read and re read the OP again

each captain gets two

i deal five more on thread.

captains bet before and after the five are dealt.

[Hugin & Munin]

Kalse, on 28 February 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:

Hrm, these betting games are always interesting. Even with the improved returns of being among the first to bet, betting early is a losing proposition most of the time - people will bet elsewhere because they have their own votes just to prevent the early voters from getting a payout. You need a large number of voters to start to make it worth the other player's time to join. A nice toss-up, really.

Of course, I'm a bit more focused on the behind-the-scenes game, and avoiding the FM, which means I need to post high so they will struggle to mimic me.

its probably going to take this go to sort the mechanics and the motivation. maybe if people could vote more than once - but i think its more pressure to think and consider the game

[Hugin & Munin]

Kalse, on 28 February 2011 - 09:08 PM, said:

I'll call.

[Hugin & Munin]

Hood, on 28 February 2011 - 09:19 PM, said:

Really we should have known his bet before we made our own but hey... Hopefully korv will fucking call too..

[Hugin & Munin]

Osseric, on 28 February 2011 - 09:24 PM, said:

okay, good
heal GL, since he's the second.

unless you're being cruel, and cumulative heals kill....DO THEY?

in fact, hold the action untill I get an answer to that,

no they dont

[Hugin & Munin]

Osseric, on 28 February 2011 - 10:11 PM, said:

what are the chances my captain's playing 79 of spades?

bet 2 credits on Kraiklyn (I can do that, can't I?)

i had considered that butit didnt work well int he last game so non captains can only bet on lynches.

Osseric, on 28 February 2011 - 10:12 PM, said:

Hugin & Munin, on 28 February 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 February 2011 - 09:24 PM, said:

okay, good
heal GL, since he's the second.

unless you're being cruel, and cumulative heals kill....DO THEY?

in fact, hold the action untill I get an answer to that,

no they dont

also, heal GL

pre-loading retribution now... ork pack is steam exclusive, fuck yeah.

too bad I got an essay to write.... at ome point today.... after work.. or somehting...

[Hugin & Munin]

Galayn Lord, on 28 February 2011 - 10:17 PM, said:

Alright, I think I've got a provisional. I'd like to perform a find on Korabas. Might change, and I suspect the quiet ones to be the higher ups. But I best check this outspoken fellow.

finds bavedict on day 1 whats he going to do though

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Osseric, on 28 February 2011 - 10:23 PM, said:

My timing is probably gonna be super f-ed up for this game, so ima try to play that up as much as I can.

SO I won't post untill I'm about to go to work, pretending I just woke up, hehe

While im power-lurking, might as well bore the empty spoiler heaven to tears.

my currenth thought is that GL is one of the more vet players. he voted Amp, b/c he thinks Amp is the FM. he thinks Amp is the FM, becaus Amp talks about the FM the most.

[Hugin & Munin]

Rashan, on 28 February 2011 - 11:19 PM, said:

well, my cards are crap. I'll wait to see if the others call or raise me (obviously), but I'm hoping my aggresive first bid will keep it at 50, since my cards are crap. I demand a new dealer

if i had a camera i could record the deal and post it on you tube, sadly i do not.

[Hugin & Munin]

Korabas, on 28 February 2011 - 11:32 PM, said:

Whoa, was the change on Barghast a result of my find? Now could I possibly hit gold on my find on the first attempt or is this a side affect of my action? Both would be very interesting. Hitting gold, however, would make the game a bit boring if all I would have to do would be on the winning team after that with my switch faction ability.

your find is a night action, there are no day actions in the game. i think the player just wanted a change.

[Hugin & Munin]

Korabas, on 01 March 2011 - 12:36 AM, said:

I'm conflicted. I want to pursue the Barghast thing to find out for sure if my find was fruitful or not but in case the face change was just a side affect of my find I don't want to waste getting additional credits. I'll do a find on someone else tomorrow to find out for sure and the... Ugh but if he is the faceless man then he would feel heat and jump bodies. Shit!!! I guess I'll wait to hear if you will tell me about the affects of my find to find out if Barghast is the FM.

fm takes two nights to jump - one to prepare one to replace. you will get your find result at night.

[Hugin & Munin]

Hood, on 01 March 2011 - 12:03 AM, said:

Honestly after you had lizz kill me in the last game ever single time I see a message from you I assume that I have been kilt..

my bad

Hood, on 01 March 2011 - 12:06 AM, said:

Eight of Diamonds
Six of Spades
Two of Clubs
Eight of Spades
King of Hearts


Six of Hearts
Nine of Hearts

Bloody hell. I only have two small pair...I don't like that shit at all...sigh... Fucking pair of 6's and pair of 8's and with a king high...On the plus side no one can have a flush or a straight so that takes those out of play. I would lose to a higher pair or a fucking 3 or 4 of a kind...


Bet 30

done!

Hood, on 01 March 2011 - 12:07 AM, said:

Oh wait... Do I have to wait for the other twats to bet first this time... If so then hold off... If not then go with it.

Hood, on 01 March 2011 - 01:26 AM, said:

Can I change my bet for Tiam's lynch. I would like to really bet 15 credits. I know that I said 5 on the thread but that is just me trying to fit in.


You will notice that this is minutes after I voted.

So bet 15 credits for Tiam's lynch and then raise my table bet to 30 more credits. Unless that isn't enough in which case bloody call the bastards.

I will be going to bed in a couple of hours and it looks like you might be modding this game yourself. So you will probably be making all of the decisions and changes while I am asleep. I will be able to play more in a day or so. Work is kind of crazy right now. But on Wednesday one of my bosses is going on vacation so a bit more free time.

that leave you with 5

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Merrid, on 01 March 2011 - 02:17 AM, said:

The rules say that each player knows the person above them in the chain of command - for a Life, like myself, does that mean each Life knows the Second? Or does the chain continue like Life -> Life -> Life -> Second -> Captain.

life - life - life - second - captain

enjoying the game?

[Hugin & Munin]

Omtose, on 01 March 2011 - 03:44 AM, said:

scratch that, i dont think barghast is the fm, the lack of a face is to obvious

remove action

Poison Ampelas

noted

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Omtose, on 01 March 2011 - 12:47 AM, said:

i like how about half of the replies you posted on thread are replys to my questions lol

No actions are limited by use, those of you who can poison or heal will be able to do so once every night.

so i can poison someone every night? im not limited to 2 pills i can only send out 2 pills at a time?



If thats is true



Poison Barghast

you have unlimited use, but only one pill can be used at night. so for you to kill someone they need to receive two pills without healing.

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Kalse, on 01 March 2011 - 12:58 AM, said:

I think the inability to remove and replace votes is always going to cause slower games. Especially when you're also betting on the outcome of a lynch. I mean, I'd rather be the hammer on a sure train and get 20 chips for 10 than be first on the train, risk it all, and get 20 chips for 5. *shrug*

I agree that it's more pressure to think, which is good, though. I think perhaps if betting was kept more in-line with a risk/reward factor...like, say, you can bet 10 chips on a lynch outcome first vote, but you can change votes by sacrificing half the chips, and replacing the other half on a new train. That way, you lose chips for making a mistake, but you don't have everyone trying not to let the first voter get lots of chips. And you allow people to switch to get a lynch and therefore info.

I dunno, it could go either way in that regard. It's certainly a different take on standard voting practice, though, and it seems to be working so far.

Now, if only that prick Zakalwe didn't vote huge (probably got pocket aces or something) before the flop-turn-river which has left me with nothing. Probably going to bet really low, then fold...otherwise I'm going to give him the pot and lives for free, and he'll control the betting for the rest of the game. :S But I don't want to lose big, either. Gah.

thats why i liek runnign these games, it adds something else and even if it sdoesnt work out it makes people consider their playstyle and sometimes play outside the usual box they inhabit

Kalse, on 01 March 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

Also, I take it Zakalwe has figured out that you can't really bankrupt yourself horribly in the early stages. As long as members of your faction are alive, you can keep receiving credits. Of course, it won't be huge amounts, but you will always have something until your faction is practically dead. Depending on how much cash your members have, of course.

Definitely a double set of principles here - strategically, it makes a lot of sense to garner extra lives this early in the game. Cripple the other factions monetarily, increase your on-thread support, your credits, your power over both games. Poker-wise, it isn't a great play to waste all your chips on a bluff too early, even though the payoff would be good if it works...

Gah.

[Hugin & Munin]

Barghast, on 01 March 2011 - 04:08 AM, said:

I'm about to vote. Want to put ALL my credits on it, please.

excellent

Barghast, on 01 March 2011 - 04:17 AM, said:

Hugin & Munin, on 28 February 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

Barghast, on 28 February 2011 - 07:54 PM, said:

Ah.

Well my strategy, is to go for the non-risk scenarios for now, which means aiming to bet everything on the lynch when its at L-1 and then hammering it.

Of course plenty of other folks are probably going to be doing the same thing...

low risk possibly sensible

Yeah so obviously I re-evaluated this idea, realizing that at a certain point there is only one viable lynch candidate and I might as well get on-board as soon as that happens for the 2-1 bonus if possible. It's still no-risk, but if the lynch does go through I get more. The only downside is if hammering counts as "killing" and so I would get the dead person's tokens from that, but on the first few days it won't be worth it if the person is a Life.

My big question, though, is whether poisoning has any effect on the FM?

it does

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Kalse, on 01 March 2011 - 08:55 AM, said:

Raise ten on Jernau.

So, bet another 20.

hehe

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Liosan, on 01 March 2011 - 09:04 AM, said:

Find on Ampelas for now