[Hugin & Munin]

It is Day 3. 11 hours and 33 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Ace Hunter, ansible, dibs, Grief, HiddenOne, Lizra, Mentalist, Shinrei, Trull's son

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

4 Votes for Mentalist ( ansible, dibs, Ace Hunter, Trull's son )
1 Vote for ansible ( Mentalist )

Players not voted: Grief, HiddenOne, Lizra, Shinrei

[Grief]

Can't say I like the kill based argument. That kind of reasoning is always wifom and pointless.

[ansible]

Grief, on 24 February 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

Can't say I like the kill based argument. That kind of reasoning is always wifom and pointless.

I voted for ment long before I brought this up... And I wouldn't expect someone to vote for him based on this. Just so I'm being clear.

Do you find the other evidence against ment unconvincing? Odd of you to ignore it all. Besides, you just said you would rather vote for a lynch than not get a lynch at all; we have someone at L-1 but you're hesitating? Odd.

[Mentalist]

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 10:16 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 24 February 2011 - 10:02 PM, said:

also, I will explain once again.

beginning of Day 1: Silencer acts all over the damn place. I say he is a symp.
Later on in Day 1: Ace hunter makes a move I interpret as symping Silencer, because I see no other way to explain it. so, I vote Silencer.

Day 2: my statement about Silencer being a symp refers to the GENERAL sentiment on thread day 1. my particular reason is not nearly as relevant, besides, it did not pan out. I see tapper making a move that looks like he is symping Shin. so, I vote Shin. to this end, I repeat: when Shin got on, his first reaction was: "I have to agree with Ment. Tapper, wtf are you symping me for?"

lookit, i'm tired of bringing up the same point. in fact, I'm starting to think you are obtusely ignoring the reasons I give. and now MTS is dead. the very same MTS who pointed out that you seem strangely obcessed with me.

in fact, you know what?
remove vote
vote Ainsible

could be you're just being a n00b. or could be, you're pushing the n00b card, because you can see it's d-day, and a lynch is at hand.

edit: changed day 2 to 1... made no sense otherwise.

The reason this isn't convincing is because almost everyone seemed to agree that Silencer was a possible symp - you've said it many times, and even if you didn't explicitly say this early in Day 1, you never explicitly said Silencer was scum and being symped, either (you only said he and Ace were scum). No one seriously suggested that Silencer might be a killer but somehow that was the reason for your vote 2 days ago?


Your OMGUS vote is transparent, btw.

sigh
it was a Day 1 vote. he looked, in that instance as if he was being symped. so I said i'd keep my joke vote on him, as it now looked more substantial (for a Day 1, anyhow).
if you're gonna lynch me on D-day based on somehting I said on Day 1, more power to you.
if you are inno, I admire your tenaciousness, even if it's sadly misguided. if you're scum, bravo. I really don't see what else I can add to the same argument i've made over 10 times now.

[Mentalist]

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

Grief, on 24 February 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

Can't say I like the kill based argument. That kind of reasoning is always wifom and pointless.

I voted for ment long before I brought this up... And I wouldn't expect someone to vote for him based on this. Just so I'm being clear.

Do you find the other evidence against ment unconvincing? Odd of you to ignore it all. Besides, you just said you would rather vote for a lynch than not get a lynch at all; we have someone at L-1 but you're hesitating? Odd.

there's also the fact that there's about 11 hours left on the clock, on d-day.

seriously, you're pushing too hard now.

[Grief]

I would rather vote for a lynch than not lynch at all yes. But in this case, the not lynch at all risk seems minimal. We still have 11 hours left.

In fact, the very fact that we're L-1 with so much time here causes me to hesitate. We struggled to lynch the previous days, and now we're L-1 with so long left?

My opinion on ment is that he's a bit all over the place currently. However, he is L-1 and as he points out, this could be D-day.

I would say that currently he and you are the two scummiest players. Him for his slight scrambling, and over-defensiveness earlier, and you for how zealously you are pushing his lynch.

It causes me to hesitate that there is such pressure to lynch him at this point, with you pulling in wifom speculation and subtly pressuring me to vote by calling me on not hammering(why, with 11 hours to discuss left?), which i'm not very fond of.

[ansible]

Mentalist, on 24 February 2011 - 10:34 PM, said:

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 10:16 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 24 February 2011 - 10:02 PM, said:

<snip>

sigh
it was a Day 1 vote. he looked, in that instance as if he was being symped. so I said i'd keep my joke vote on him, as it now looked more substantial (for a Day 1, anyhow).
if you're gonna lynch me on D-day based on somehting I said on Day 1, more power to you.
if you are inno, I admire your tenaciousness, even if it's sadly misguided. if you're scum, bravo. I really don't see what else I can add to the same argument i've made over 10 times now.

I'm not basing my vote on your Day 1 vote. It's your explanation of the vote that I don't buy, as well as the myriad other reasons I've listed before.

Mentalist, on 24 February 2011 - 10:35 PM, said:

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

Grief, on 24 February 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

Can't say I like the kill based argument. That kind of reasoning is always wifom and pointless.

I voted for ment long before I brought this up... And I wouldn't expect someone to vote for him based on this. Just so I'm being clear.

Do you find the other evidence against ment unconvincing? Odd of you to ignore it all. Besides, you just said you would rather vote for a lynch than not get a lynch at all; we have someone at L-1 but you're hesitating? Odd.

there's also the fact that there's about 11 hours left on the clock, on d-day.

seriously, you're pushing too hard now.

I do think it's odd that with all the heat on you, Grief doesn't even address it. I had actually forgotten we have so much time left, but either way I'm not pushing Grief to vote for you. I was only pointing out what seemed to me to be inconsistencies in his posts.

[ansible]

Grief, on 24 February 2011 - 10:39 PM, said:

I would rather vote for a lynch than not lynch at all yes. But in this case, the not lynch at all risk seems minimal. We still have 11 hours left.

In fact, the very fact that we're L-1 with so much time here causes me to hesitate. We struggled to lynch the previous days, and now we're L-1 with so long left?

My opinion on ment is that he's a bit all over the place currently. However, he is L-1 and as he points out, this could be D-day.

I would say that currently he and you are the two scummiest players. Him for his slight scrambling, and over-defensiveness earlier, and you for how zealously you are pushing his lynch.

It causes me to hesitate that there is such pressure to lynch him at this point, with you pulling in wifom speculation and subtly pressuring me to vote by calling me on not hammering(why, with 11 hours to discuss left?), which i'm not very fond of.

Now that you mention it, being L-1 this early is definitely odd.... Truthfully, I am convinced that ment is scum and that's why I'm pushing on him. I backed off for almost all of Day 1 and 2 after my initial accusation of him, but recently it just seems like there's more to it.

I actually agree with you now, there's no reason not to wait till near the end of the day since it seems as if both kills have been used and more info may come out in that time.

[Mentalist]

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 10:41 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 24 February 2011 - 10:34 PM, said:

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 10:16 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 24 February 2011 - 10:02 PM, said:

<snip>

sigh
it was a Day 1 vote. he looked, in that instance as if he was being symped. so I said i'd keep my joke vote on him, as it now looked more substantial (for a Day 1, anyhow).
if you're gonna lynch me on D-day based on somehting I said on Day 1, more power to you.
if you are inno, I admire your tenaciousness, even if it's sadly misguided. if you're scum, bravo. I really don't see what else I can add to the same argument i've made over 10 times now.

I'm not basing my vote on your Day 1 vote. It's your explanation of the vote that I don't buy, as well as the myriad other reasons I've listed before.

Mentalist, on 24 February 2011 - 10:35 PM, said:

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

Grief, on 24 February 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

Can't say I like the kill based argument. That kind of reasoning is always wifom and pointless.

I voted for ment long before I brought this up... And I wouldn't expect someone to vote for him based on this. Just so I'm being clear.

Do you find the other evidence against ment unconvincing? Odd of you to ignore it all. Besides, you just said you would rather vote for a lynch than not get a lynch at all; we have someone at L-1 but you're hesitating? Odd.

there's also the fact that there's about 11 hours left on the clock, on d-day.

seriously, you're pushing too hard now.

I do think it's odd that with all the heat on you, Grief doesn't even address it. I had actually forgotten we have so much time left, but either way I'm not pushing Grief to vote for you. I was only pointing out what seemed to me to be inconsistencies in his posts.

underlined part is semantics. my vote and the reason for my vote are one and the same. at that time I thought Silencer was being symped. he wasn't. I was wrong, move on.
as for the "myriad other reasons", you don't like that i voted for Shin, when he was being symped? once again, can't help you there.

[Lizradusa]

actually, the things said about Ment convince me. He contradicts himself and now he tries to give us another aim in ansible to distract from himself.

vote Mentalist

[ansible]

Mentalist, on 24 February 2011 - 10:45 PM, said:

underlined part is semantics. my vote and the reason for my vote are one and the same. at that time I thought Silencer was being symped. he wasn't. I was wrong, move on.
as for the "myriad other reasons", you don't like that i voted for Shin, when he was being symped? once again, can't help you there.

You have been blithely dismissing my case against you ever since I made it, and you continually ignore the points I bring up against you (except for the few you rehash over and over...). It doesn't seem as if we are communicating effectively. You SAY you thought Silencer was being symped - show me a post where you said that.

[Hugin & Munin]

Day 3 ended with 10 hours and 51 minutes remaining
9 Players still alive: Ace Hunter, ansible, dibs, Grief, HiddenOne, Lizra, Mentalist, Shinrei, Trull's son

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

5 Votes for Mentalist ( ansible, dibs, Ace Hunter, Trull's son, Lizra )
1 Vote for ansible ( Mentalist )

Players not voted: Grief, HiddenOne, Shinrei

After Pang De killed Wang Can, he returned to his main camp outside Tian Shui where he met a soaked Ma Chao. Messengers arrived to report that Wei Xu's main army had cleared San Pass and was headed for Tian Shui. The generals split their forces and set defensive lines in readiness as Wei Xu's vanguard came into sight. The vanguard commander, Yang Ang, rode forth and challenged Ma Chao to single combat. Chao mounted his steed, couched his lance and rode towards the enemy warrior. The two lances impacted head-on and shattered, knocking both warriors from their horses. The two drew swords and set upon each, slashing at each other in the mud. After thirty bouts, Ma Chao slipped and fell. As Yang Ang plunged his sword downards, Chao tore off his helm and let Ang's blade slide into the left eye hole. A twist and Ang's blade spun free leaving Chao free to cut Ang at the ankle followed by a slash across the throat.

Mentalist is dead. He was Yang Ang, General Who Establishes Might of the Lu Dynasty

[Hugin & Munin]

It is Day 4. 29 hours and 59 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Ace Hunter, ansible, dibs, Grief, HiddenOne, Lizra, Shinrei, Trull's son

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Ace Hunter, ansible, dibs, Grief, HiddenOne, Lizra, Shinrei, Trull's son

[ansible]

Well, fuck.

[Grief]

Shit...

At least we've not lost though, which could've happened.

[ansible]

Grief, on 24 February 2011 - 11:12 PM, said:

Shit...

At least we've not lost though, which could've happened.

I was just thinking this - so at least one symp has died, since all CF's have been innocent.

[Hugin & Munin]

After flooding Ma Teng's encampment, Li Tong's army escaped west before turning southward. He made his way to Bao Han, where he found the army of Midang, king of the Qiang people, defending the city. Midang pledged to help Li Tong retake Jin Cheng, so the two armies set forth and encamped three li from the city. "I will lead five hundred of my crack troops to scale the wall at night and open the south gate, you follow and be ready to charge in." Li Tong agreed, and Midang departed. At the sixth watch, Li Tong had his army cover their boots and horses' hooves in cloth to mask their sound and they marched to Jin Cheng. As they arrived, the south gate opened and so the army moved into the city. As Li Tong entered, the gate's bridge collapsed, stranding half his army outside. Midang appeared on the ramparts above with scores of archers who fired into the Lu forces. Li Tong and all his forces perished in the rain of arrows while Midang's Qiang army slaughtered the remainder beyond the walls.

Ace Hunter is dead. He was Li Tong, General of the Guards of the Lu Dynasty

[Lizradusa]

Damn, I really thought Ansible's case good.

[Grief]

Shit. If there's another kill it'd mean there only needs to be 3 scum for a win. We might still lose today

[ansible]

So this means at least two scum have died, since we haven't lost. Right?