[MTS]

Hmm, I've noticed ansible has quite the hard-on for Ment.

[ansible]

HiddenOne, on 24 February 2011 - 04:30 PM, said:

Screw it, my instincts have been for crap about this whole game.

Maybe if I go opposite I'll move in the right direction.

This basically sounds like justification for voting people who you have no real reason to vote for, just because you're not trusting your instincts. Scummy. If you are trying to help town why not attempt some analysis? Instinct is better than a random guess.

[ansible]

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 04:41 PM, said:

Hmm, I've noticed ansible has quite the hard-on for Ment.

Absolutely; I made a weak case against him early on Day 1 which he got defensive about. Most of my reasoning is in the case I posted a few pages back. He's been all over Tapper, who seems to be a roled inno. I wish he could have stuck around to give out some more info. If ment comes up innocent, then I've misread things and I'll admit it, but everything I can deduce is telling me he's scum.

What are your thoughts on ment, anyway? You've been pretty noncommittal on most issues since The Dude's lynch and Tapper's reveal, but you've been posting a good amount. I'm interested to see what you think is happening.

[HiddenOne]

Lizra, on 23 February 2011 - 12:21 AM, said:

Ok, these are the only things, that stood out:

HiddenOne, on 21 February 2011 - 09:21 PM, said:

Mentalist, on 21 February 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 21 February 2011 - 08:56 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 21 February 2011 - 08:39 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 21 February 2011 - 08:26 PM, said:

I guess there's no reason to argue with that figure


Edit: Some lag there

What there is always a reason to argue. Unless your scum and have just decided to not argue anymore and announce to the world that your scum and it's wonderful. Are you scum?

Vengeance detective one oh one. Just ask stupid.

I disagree. Sometimes it just won't work. Although I've always loved to argue.
I think it's more like you're scum looking for some pals. So there.

?
are you implying he's looking for symps? without us knowing if there are symps?

sounds to me like you are hiding something...

Only to the same degree he's implying I'm scum, seems reasonable...

And I'm hiding what you and everybody else are hiding...nothing

It had been pointed out before, but that was early with a lot of joke-votes flying around
With him being the only one who has not voted, it looks more suspicious, imo.

I didn't vote because I was waiting for last minute info for I was unconvinced. Anyway, my vote wasn't needed as it turned out.

HiddenOne, on 22 February 2011 - 02:48 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 22 February 2011 - 02:45 PM, said:

obviously the odds of catching day one scum are minimal anyway, I don't think there is much to go on with me but wants Tapper gets his claws in and leads the way its hard to get out. I would say it was Tapper that pointed out that I was "suspicious" even though I don't think I was. His play is usually meticulous. If I am lynched then maybe you can start looking there, because without his "case" we would probably be looking at a better scum candidate.

Are you saying Tapper is scum?

It seems kind of obvios, that Tattersail is implying just that. Why ask specifically?

I wanted something beyond implications. Looks like Tatts was wrong, but I was feeling the same way.

HiddenOne, on 22 February 2011 - 03:14 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 22 February 2011 - 02:59 PM, said:

Roldom, on 22 February 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:

he is saying that tapper is masterminding his lynch and that we should take a long hard look at her afterwards

Tappers a bloke with a woman avatar mate

You've got to admit, that's an attractive avatar

And that could be signaling. It's just a few posts downfrom the above quote.

How is that signaling? To whom & about what? You have made no case against me.

It seems you're looking for someone to push out as a suspect. You've been fairly quiet with posts.

[HiddenOne]

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 04:42 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 24 February 2011 - 04:30 PM, said:

Screw it, my instincts have been for crap about this whole game.

Maybe if I go opposite I'll move in the right direction.

This basically sounds like justification for voting people who you have no real reason to vote for, just because you're not trusting your instincts. Scummy. If you are trying to help town why not attempt some analysis? Instinct is better than a random guess.

What I mean is, the people I suspect turn out inno, so maybe the people I haven't had reason to suspect are SMOOTH. My instinct in reverse, not random, but I know neither is as good as reasoned logic. So don't bother with that one.

It was my understanding that not voting was bad, so trying to support the town means going along even when one isn't necessarily sure.

I am analyzing that every word is scrutinized. Which is why I don't say more than I need to in order to communicate.

[MTS]

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 04:58 PM, said:

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 04:41 PM, said:

Hmm, I've noticed ansible has quite the hard-on for Ment.

Absolutely; I made a weak case against him early on Day 1 which he got defensive about. Most of my reasoning is in the case I posted a few pages back. He's been all over Tapper, who seems to be a roled inno. I wish he could have stuck around to give out some more info. If ment comes up innocent, then I've misread things and I'll admit it, but everything I can deduce is telling me he's scum.

What are your thoughts on ment, anyway? You've been pretty noncommittal on most issues since The Dude's lynch and Tapper's reveal, but you've been posting a good amount. I'm interested to see what you think is happening.

Hasn't there only been one issue since the Dude's lynch?

At the moment I think Ment is the most suspicious among the high posters. He seems to be always excessively attacking those who even barely look at him. He lashes out unnecessarily at Ace Hunter for a single vote, even if it was baseless, and his rant against Ace Hunter was predicated on the fact Silencer had already voted him, thus making Silencer scum (?). Half the reason he votes Tattersial is because 'he thinks his[Ment's] train was a viable alternative', and he went after you fairly strongly with that whole Venge symping thing, and hasn't let up since.

Among the low posters? Trull's son is my first pick, next is Lizra. Maybe even both.

[HiddenOne]

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 04:58 PM, said:

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 04:41 PM, said:

Hmm, I've noticed ansible has quite the hard-on for Ment.

Absolutely; I made a weak case against him early on Day 1 which he got defensive about. Most of my reasoning is in the case I posted a few pages back. He's been all over Tapper, who seems to be a roled inno. I wish he could have stuck around to give out some more info. If ment comes up innocent, then I've misread things and I'll admit it, but everything I can deduce is telling me he's scum.

What are your thoughts on ment, anyway? You've been pretty noncommittal on most issues since The Dude's lynch and Tapper's reveal, but you've been posting a good amount. I'm interested to see what you think is happening.

Hasn't there only been one issue since the Dude's lynch?

At the moment I think Ment is the most suspicious among the high posters. He seems to be always excessively attacking those who even barely look at him. He lashes out unnecessarily at Ace Hunter for a single vote, even if it was baseless, and his rant against Ace Hunter was predicated on the fact Silencer had already voted him, thus making Silencer scum (?). Half the reason he votes Tattersial is because 'he thinks his[Ment's] train was a viable alternative', and he went after you fairly strongly with that whole Venge symping thing, and hasn't let up since.

Among the low posters? Trull's son is my first pick, next is Lizra. Maybe even both.

I think there's a good chance both of these are scum. Lay back most ofthe time, come out of nowhere. Jump on easy targets or the bandwagon while sharpening knives. Both have attacked me with no cases whatsover.

[Grief]

Pot, on 24 February 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:

Kettle seems like scum.

[HiddenOne]

I just looked at the first several pages and most of those who voted for Mentalist are dead.

[MTS]

HiddenOne, on 24 February 2011 - 05:43 PM, said:

I just looked at the first several pages and most of those who voted for Mentalist are dead.

I dunno, Ace Hunter is still alive, ansible is still alive and the Dude was lynched. So of his original train you only have Silencer getting killed, and I suppose you could count PB in there as well, since he fingered Ment as one of his top suspects along with Silencer. I don't remember Roldom or Vengeance voting for Mentalist in any serious capacity.

[Trull's son]

Hey I'm back, just got through like 5 pages. In summary, I guess quite a bit of shit went down. Didn't realize we had lost 2 people yesterday when I got in this morning.

drinksinbars, on 24 February 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

Tapper, on 24 February 2011 - 03:17 PM, said:

drinksinbars, on 24 February 2011 - 02:49 PM, said:

Tapper, on 24 February 2011 - 02:35 PM, said:

drinksinbars, on 24 February 2011 - 02:22 PM, said:

Still checking in periodically, but not much is happening.

SO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!!!111!!

vote tapperok then. Its a toss up between you and ment for me, so I guess a vote will get some activity going.reasons - you were a driving force behind both lynches and you have done some serious symping of shin. To me you are more suspicious than ment, though i admit it is close.

Not unexpected. However, if you believe I am symping Shin, you should vote him.If you believe I am fake symping him, vote me.Since you know that, you believe I'm fake symping him. Very well.I think this must be based on day 2 solely.If you read back to day 1, you'll see I only made and then pushed a case on Tatts after he jumped (which was the result of shins vote), while I had my vote for quite a while on Silencer.Now, I can safely say this since my partner is dead, but I was lovers with PB. I'm Lady Zhou, aunt of Xhiang Xiu himself, and I could pick someone to become lovers with. I chose PB because he and I get along well, have the same analytical mindset, and it allowed me to test my suspicions on someone who is usually level headed. Now, there are no codes, no signs, but for some circumstantial evidence: if you look back to day 1, who was vehemently against lynching the low poster, then PB? Moi - to keep my partner alive.My bad case on The Dude was a result of PB's gut feeling The Dude was scum. Look at how he follows my vote on day 2.If you accept that evidence, then the only way I can be scum is if there are two symps, they know each other, and their boss(es). I do not judge that likely, myself, but of course, you might conclude that I am biased :pNow, why do I reveal with hardly any pressure on me?Because I want to get this bad shit out of the way asap so we can focus on the other tracks we have, there is still plenty of time in the day to reach a conclusion on that. Moreover, if I VPI with my partner dead, I force the scums hand - if they ignore me, they have a minor problem, if they kill me, they waste a kill.

a bit of a cross post there, i was trying to word that last post so i didnt insult anyone or sound too much like a pompus windbag with a soap box. its a fairly convenient reveal mate, you have no code and your evidence is fairly weak. Can you give us a few details around the natur eof yours or pb's powers? What would have happened had you hooked up with a scum etc?

I would usually tend to believe these kinds of reveals. Let's face it, it's more than we had on Tapper before, and with the details and such it's unlikely that it is a lie or fake reveal.

drinksinbars, on 24 February 2011 - 04:16 PM, said:

not to be too pessimistic guys, but we are fucked.vote mentalisttapper is clearly an inno, so wasnt bumping uglies against shins leg. Out of everyone remaining ment to me is my biggest suspect. I am convinced one of our low posters is scum too (trull, hidden one or liz) but dont think i could make a case with whats on thread for that. Will try to check in later, will defo be back before the deadline.

ansible, on 24 February 2011 - 04:37 PM, said:

drinksinbars, on 24 February 2011 - 04:16 PM, said:

not to be too pessimistic guys, but we are fucked.vote mentalisttapper is clearly an inno, so wasnt bumping uglies against shins leg. Out of everyone remaining ment to me is my biggest suspect. I am convinced one of our low posters is scum too (trull, hidden one or liz) but dont think i could make a case with whats on thread for that. Will try to check in later, will defo be back before the deadline.

I agree with this, losing Tapper was bad. I'll go back and reply to ment's defense as soon as I can, but I'll just say that being so dismissive is just adding to my suspicion, so my vote stays. Also, Ment has been attacking Tapper/Shin throughout most of the last Day. I also agree that TS or HO might be scum; HO is basically claiming (feigning?) ignorance, and TS has sort of disappeared. By his association with Tapper I still feel Shin is clean.If there really are two separate killers, then today could get really bad if we lose two more innos. I suppose they could always hold a kill back to try and dispel the 2-killers theory, but it seems more likely that they would push their advantage. Anyway, speculation aside, we need to find a fucking scum, and fast.

I would agree with this, in that Tapper's relation with Shin would imply Shin's innocence as well.

I should address my low posting, because it is unfair on my part. It really hasn't been from me lying low, but rather I was not around much yesterday and the day before had me confused with ridiculous day 1 spam. Regardless of my explanation, I should be a suspect because at this point of the game, I would definitely be focusing on low posters. I know I am inno, but i have no way to truly prove that. So keep me in mind for a suspect, but we should really also be focusing on HO and Ace Hunter as well (and Lizra i guess). HO has accused Lizra of being fairly quiet with posts, but shared that trait up until recently. Ace really has not done much (like myself I suppose). I'm having trouble remember much of what Lizra has done up until now. I guess I can go over the thread once more as fast as I can.

[Hugin & Munin]

In the court at Tian Shui, black-clothed assassins balanced above rafters and hid behind tapestries. In strode a tall, grizzled man garbed in silks and followed by dozens of guards and notaries. The assassins emerged with portable arbalests (Cho Ko Nu) and fired upon the group from all sides. Most of the party fell immediately and the few remaining guards charged the assassins. The assassins quickly dispatched the remaining guard. They turned to finish off the official,only to see the captain of his guards ushering him into a secret escape hatch in the floor.

[Trull's son]

Not sure if anything here is condemning, but figured I'd gather it together. Lizra's posts from the last few pages.

Lizra, on 23 February 2011 - 11:11 PM, said:

Ok, Tapper's main point seems to be gut-feeling and in the post he votes, he dismisses most of his own points right away. That seems like symping and the one most likely symped is Shin. Also Tapper yesterday got on the Tattersail train after Shin.

So he does support the idea that Tapper was symping Shin here. We can now speculate that Tapper was not scum, and that perhaps this innocence extends to Shin as well.

Lizra, on 24 February 2011 - 01:28 AM, said:

With less than three hours left in the day and the actual vote situation, we will get trouble to get a lynch.The one, that seems to me most likely to go through at all is the one on Shin. At least he has already two votes on him and I think him more likely to be scum than TS.vote Shinrei

Nice to see Lizra putting his vote down. This would follow his earlier case against Shin and Tapper. Keep in mind that because Tapper turned out inno, it does not mean necessarily that Lizra is scum for pushing this case. It seemed reasonable, at least from my point of view.

Lizra, on 24 February 2011 - 02:44 AM, said:

Yeah, if all vote together, we are just enough. Soremove votevote The Dude

I read this as changing the vote in hopes of getting a lynch, I wouldn't think that Lizra was completely convinced that The Dude was scum. I think it's fair to say that Lizra acts according to his case when he can, but will also prioritize a lynch over wasting a vote on who he thinks is scum. I wouldn't expect anything less from an inno.

So basically, I'm pretty sure Lizra is inno. at the very least, there isn't enough to suggest that he is scum. Any other thoughts on this?

[Trull's son]

Hugin & Munin, on 24 February 2011 - 06:37 PM, said:

In the court at Tian Shui, black-clothed assassins balanced above rafters and hid behind tapestries. In strode a tall, grizzled man garbed in silks and followed by dozens of guards and notaries. The assassins emerged with portable arbalests (Cho Ko Nu) and fired upon the group from all sides. Most of the party fell immediately and the few remaining guards charged the assassins. The assassins quickly dispatched the remaining guard. They turned to finish off the official,only to see the captain of his guards ushering him into a secret escape hatch in the floor.

I take it this means a successful guard?

[Grief]

Trull, on 24 February 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:

Hugin & Munin, on 24 February 2011 - 06:37 PM, said:

In the court at Tian Shui, black-clothed assassins balanced above rafters and hid behind tapestries. In strode a tall, grizzled man garbed in silks and followed by dozens of guards and notaries. The assassins emerged with portable arbalests (Cho Ko Nu) and fired upon the group from all sides. Most of the party fell immediately and the few remaining guards charged the assassins. The assassins quickly dispatched the remaining guard. They turned to finish off the official,only to see the captain of his guards ushering him into a secret escape hatch in the floor.

I take it this means a successful guard?

If we're going to interpret scenes though, it reads more like a BP than a guard, with the assssins attacking but failing. I'm not really sure how much of the specifics the scenes give away though.

[Grief]

Trull, on 24 February 2011 - 06:37 PM, said:

Not sure if anything here is condemning, but figured I'd gather it together. Lizra's posts from the last few pages.

Lizra, on 23 February 2011 - 11:11 PM, said:

Ok, Tapper's main point seems to be gut-feeling and in the post he votes, he dismisses most of his own points right away. That seems like symping and the one most likely symped is Shin. Also Tapper yesterday got on the Tattersail train after Shin.

So he does support the idea that Tapper was symping Shin here. We can now speculate that Tapper was not scum, and that perhaps this innocence extends to Shin as well.

Lizra, on 24 February 2011 - 01:28 AM, said:

With less than three hours left in the day and the actual vote situation, we will get trouble to get a lynch.The one, that seems to me most likely to go through at all is the one on Shin. At least he has already two votes on him and I think him more likely to be scum than TS.vote Shinrei

Nice to see Lizra putting his vote down. This would follow his earlier case against Shin and Tapper. Keep in mind that because Tapper turned out inno, it does not mean necessarily that Lizra is scum for pushing this case. It seemed reasonable, at least from my point of view.

Lizra, on 24 February 2011 - 02:44 AM, said:

Yeah, if all vote together, we are just enough. Soremove votevote The Dude

I read this as changing the vote in hopes of getting a lynch, I wouldn't think that Lizra was completely convinced that The Dude was scum. I think it's fair to say that Lizra acts according to his case when he can, but will also prioritize a lynch over wasting a vote on who he thinks is scum. I wouldn't expect anything less from an inno.

So basically, I'm pretty sure Lizra is inno. at the very least, there isn't enough to suggest that he is scum. Any other thoughts on this?

You're reasoning seems sound.

There's not much on Liz though. There are a bunch of people who could be scum but it'd be very hard to tell because they've not put their thoughts onto the thread much.

[Trull's son]

I'll get around to looking through HO's posts as well. I'm out to lunch for a bit..

[HiddenOne]

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 24 February 2011 - 02:42 PM, said:

I feel like we're two steps behind the killer(s). Really, I have nothing to go on. Another day like yesterday will see the town in smoking ruin

See, this is what is irks me most about your entire game, HO. Everyone sympathises with the fact that you are confused at what is going on. Hell, we all are. We're all scratching our heads trying to figure out things like why we had one kill on Day 1 and then three kills on Day 2. The thing is though, we're just as in the dark in every game about what's going on behind the scenes, and it's especially bad when you have 17 players. That's no real excuse for throwing up your hands and saying 'I have no idea' and making vague pronouncements of doom if we don't get our act together though.

I don't need sympathy, just comprehension - I've never thrown up a single hand in defeat, and there are others with their pronouncements of doom, so why am I wrong?

You say you think we're two steps behind the killer(s). Ok fine, I think we can all agree that possibly six innos dead to no scum after two days' play is pretty bad. What are you doing about it though? You come out with posts asking us what we should do, why we find people suspicious, which is all well and good, but yet you contribute nothing on top of that. I can't remember you commenting on a single case, even your own, despite repeated requests to do so. I'm working on that now I hope this doesn't come off as arrogantly condescending Just a little bit as Ment's earlier post to ansible did, but there's plenty of people who are under suspicion for being killers, and others have given reason for that. Up to now you've pretty much been following everyone's lead, your vote for the Dude being case in point. Who do you think the killers are though? What's your opinion of people's play? Tapper's got a lot of questions to answer, Shin's looking fairly suspicious, and so is Ment. I believe some people are expressing concern over DiBs. You must have an opinion on them, as you've been reading the thread, we'd just like to hear what that opinion is. A more paranoid player than myself might think your confusion and lack of offering an opinion is an act to fly under the radar, after all. Glad you're not paranoid, I guess

Red letters are mine



You seem to be defending Mentalist here.

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 04:41 PM, said:

Hmm, I've noticed ansible has quite the hard-on for Ment.

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 05:58 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 24 February 2011 - 05:43 PM, said:

I just looked at the first several pages and most of those who voted for Mentalist are dead.

I dunno, Ace Hunter is still alive, ansible is still alive and the Dude was lynched. So of his original train you only have Silencer getting killed, and I suppose you could count PB in there as well, since he fingered Ment as one of his top suspects along with Silencer. I don't remember Roldom or Vengeance voting for Mentalist in any serious capacity.

Ok, I should have said "some" instead of "most" - But all the dead ones were inno, right? Vengeance did vote for Mentalist, during the time of endless joke votes, so who knows?
And I wish I knew who survived that last attempt.
EDIT: added last sentence

This post has been edited by HiddenOne: 24 February 2011 - 07:51 PM

[HiddenOne]

Trull, on 24 February 2011 - 06:56 PM, said:

I'll get around to looking through HO's posts as well. I'm out to lunch for a bit..

Go ahead, enjoy. Try to criticize something new please. It still won't be scummy, just uninformed. So have at it.


EDIT: to strike through excessive sarcasm

This post has been edited by HiddenOne: 24 February 2011 - 07:53 PM

[Ace Hunter]

HiddenOne, on 24 February 2011 - 07:46 PM, said:

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 24 February 2011 - 02:42 PM, said:

I feel like we're two steps behind the killer(s). Really, I have nothing to go on. Another day like yesterday will see the town in smoking ruin

See, this is what is irks me most about your entire game, HO. Everyone sympathises with the fact that you are confused at what is going on. Hell, we all are. We're all scratching our heads trying to figure out things like why we had one kill on Day 1 and then three kills on Day 2. The thing is though, we're just as in the dark in every game about what's going on behind the scenes, and it's especially bad when you have 17 players. That's no real excuse for throwing up your hands and saying 'I have no idea' and making vague pronouncements of doom if we don't get our act together though.

I don't need sympathy, just comprehension - I've never thrown up a single hand in defeat, and there are others with their pronouncements of doom, so why am I wrong?

You say you think we're two steps behind the killer(s). Ok fine, I think we can all agree that possibly six innos dead to no scum after two days' play is pretty bad. What are you doing about it though? You come out with posts asking us what we should do, why we find people suspicious, which is all well and good, but yet you contribute nothing on top of that. I can't remember you commenting on a single case, even your own, despite repeated requests to do so. I'm working on that now I hope this doesn't come off as arrogantly condescending Just a little bit as Ment's earlier post to ansible did, but there's plenty of people who are under suspicion for being killers, and others have given reason for that. Up to now you've pretty much been following everyone's lead, your vote for the Dude being case in point. Who do you think the killers are though? What's your opinion of people's play? Tapper's got a lot of questions to answer, Shin's looking fairly suspicious, and so is Ment. I believe some people are expressing concern over DiBs. You must have an opinion on them, as you've been reading the thread, we'd just like to hear what that opinion is. A more paranoid player than myself might think your confusion and lack of offering an opinion is an act to fly under the radar, after all. Glad you're not paranoid, I guess

Red letters are mine



You seem to be defending Mentalist here.

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 04:41 PM, said:

Hmm, I've noticed ansible has quite the hard-on for Ment.

MTS, on 24 February 2011 - 05:58 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 24 February 2011 - 05:43 PM, said:

I just looked at the first several pages and most of those who voted for Mentalist are dead.

I dunno, Ace Hunter is still alive, ansible is still alive and the Dude was lynched. So of his original train you only have Silencer getting killed, and I suppose you could count PB in there as well, since he fingered Ment as one of his top suspects along with Silencer. I don't remember Roldom or Vengeance voting for Mentalist in any serious capacity.

Ok, I should have said "some" instead of "most" - But all the dead ones were inno, right? Vengeance did vote for Mentalist, during the time of endless joke votes, so who knows?
And I wish I knew who survived that last attempt.
EDIT: added last sentence

It could be that Mentalist is somehow influencing others to vote off people. I'm listing off his votes:

Day 1:

Mentalist, on 21 February 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

Hey, all, I told you I won't be on till noon.
so what if it's almost 2? I have a week off.
now, since i'm not dead yet, Vengy is not a killer.
SInce the Dude voted me, HE's not a killer either.
this leaves Silencer as the most likely scum. he's being way too smooth and not making any waves whatsoever.
vote silencer

Initially this was a joke vote, though he later says:

Mentalist, on 22 February 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

Ok, reading up, it would appear obvious that Silencer is a symp. now, who the hell is he symping?

He also follows up his reason by saying my vote is cause for action:

Mentalist, on 22 February 2011 - 08:05 PM, said:

hey, i'm back (the girl actually had a shopping list this time, so it didn't take that long)
seems a lot of things are happening. our primary targets appear to be Silencer and tattersail. of the two, I'd be inclined to vote off silencer today. Why, you may ask?
for this:

Ace Hunter, on 22 February 2011 - 10:54 AM, said:

Vote Mentalist
Don't like his comments earlier in the day. Now I'm off to bed.

now, if that's not a "i'm a lazy scum, so i'll just vote where other scum are voting" type of vote, I don't know what is.
At that point, the only people voting me were the Dude and Silencer., both joke/OMGUS votes. oh, and ainsible, who though I was symping Venge, but doesn't think so anymore.
if my vote wasn't already on Silencer, it would be now.

Afterwards though he changes his vote to get Tattersail because of the day ending:

Mentalist, on 22 February 2011 - 08:27 PM, said:

igmeoy, Ace.
however.
remove vote
vote tattersail
for now. i'm also a bit vary of him thinking my train was a viable alternative. this is by no means set in stone, though

It is later noted that he mentions Mafia 101:

Mentalist, on 22 February 2011 - 08:53 PM, said:

sigh
mafia 101
if you find someone yo think is a symp, look for who he's symping, then vote THAT person.
you ONLY vote the symp if you have absolutely nothing better--because, 9 times out of 10, the person you think is a symp will be RI. and since they CF the same, you'll never know.
also, TS, don't be surprised if you end up temp banned. just e-mail one of the other admins to get that sorted our,

Here he technically contradicts himself with his initial vote of Silencer, by saying to vote the master, not the symp. Yet he still went for Silencer, even though he initially thought Silencer was a symp.

Mentalist, on 23 February 2011 - 09:08 PM, said:

Tapper, on 23 February 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

Vote The Dude.


Based on gut, certainly not enough to make a case, but there is way too much I don't like about the way you play right now. Here's the list of what I dislike and sets my scumdar off.

First there was the rather convenient leaving out of Roldom on your thoughts post. Guess who is killed? Roldom. OK, you might be framed, but hey, so what.

Second, you try to lend some weight to Venges kill. No problems in itself there, but hey.

Third, you go after people early on the Tatts train of yesterday. Now, thanks to the massive amount of discussion on whether or not it deserved to be a lynch, that was the only truly meaningful train. But you don't try and distill much from it, do you? Just looking at who was the earliest non-joke vote and tying it to your own gut (see point 1).

If we look where your vote was... well, it was on the Silencer may be a symp train. Which, as we all agree, even if he was a symp, would have given us a CF of inno and nothing more to work with.

I agree to a certain extent with dibs on the fearmongering you've done.
There is just too much stuff in your posts that makes you look like you want to smell of roses, and by the two targets you went for, it seems you might well try to steer everyone into happy town by lynching one of the culprits for yesterdays lynch of an inno without being too picky about who gets lynched, either.

Sure, dibs is a threat whenever he plays, and sure, Shin fucked up on an accusation against you. But the two combined... I'm starting to feel there is more to it than simply wanting to call attention to two people.

thats a quick agressive leap there, taps. is he getting close to your masters?

I htink the Dude may have hit a nerve here.
vote Shinrei

to see wherethis goes.

Here he votes Shinrei, even though he was quoting Tapper's vote on The Dude. Later on, Tapper also mentions it and says:

Tapper, on 23 February 2011 - 10:06 PM, said:

Also, the masters comment you made there can cut two ways. Why the fuck are you defending him after there is just 1 vote on him?

So, the results of Mentalist's votes are:

Day 1:
Vote Silencer (later killed and CF as Lu Dynasty)
Change Vote to Tattersail (lynched and CF as Lu Dynasty)

Day 2:
Vote Shinrei(not dead)

Not sure how to phrase my next words, but I can definitely say Mentalist seems too unconcerned to me. He says IGMEOY to me, but doesn't notice my later posts at all. As if my words don't matter. So:

Vote Mentalist

I will be out again, no rest for the weary