[nacht]

I am confused by the Crippled God's magic. A lot of place in MT and RG, the magic is described having "tendrils" of Chaos.
Can you really control "Chaos". Would't that make the CG really powerful.

What is the god's ultimate goal? Is he trying to break his chains? Is he trying to destroy Wu? Is he just trying to create a cult, albeit a really screwed up one?

This post has been edited by nacht: 07 February 2011 - 05:17 AM

[worry]

I don't personally associate tendrils with strong control.

[Aptorian]

First of all you should probably start by stating what kind of spoilers that are going to be in the thread in the thread description. That way people wont get spoiled if the accidentally click the thread without realising the subforum they are in.

nacht, on 06 February 2011 - 05:58 PM, said:

I am confused by the Crippled God's magic. A lot of place in MT and RG, the magic is described having "tendrils" of Chaos.
Can you really control "Chaos". Would't that make the CG really powerful.

Chaos can be used as a warren. This has been seen several times through out the series. Namely Hairlock and that crazy mage from RCG.

How ever it is a dangerous power that seems to always come with a price, be that your health or your sanity. Generally, it seems that unless you are very strong or very skilled you should not go anywhere near chaos because it will fuck you up.

The CG how ever is neither mortal nor normal. He is an Alien God. Whether this is what makes it so easy/beneficial for him to utilise chaos or it is rather a part of his broken aspect is not easy to guess. What ever the case chaos is destructive and so is the Crippled God.

nacht, on 06 February 2011 - 05:58 PM, said:

What is the god's ultimate goal? Is he trying to break his chains? Is he trying to destroy Wu? Is he just trying to create a cult, albeit a really screwed up one?

All of the above and more... or maybe less.

DOD Spoilers!

Spoiler

Every time he begins to get loose of his chains he is rechained. The Crippled God is trying to force the gods hand. Either he wants to be free or he wants to die. How this will happen is alluded to in MOI. Either Brood will use the Hammer to wake up Burn who will unmake the world to rid herself of the Crippled Gods virulent power, probably destroying the CG in the process, or she will die, freeing the CG and allowing him to pump his pain and corruption into K'rulls magic system and magic will be destroyed.

At least that is what it has seemed like so far. But DOD indicates that there may be more to it than we thought. The Crippled God is being used. Both by the EGs and by the FA. He seems to be more of a victim than a master mind.

But all that aside, the Crippled God is keeping busy, stoking the fires of the Pantheon War, trying to fuck up the world, creating cults worshipping the broken and sick and corrupt.

[nacht]

worrywort, on 06 February 2011 - 06:40 PM, said:

I don't personally associate tendrils with strong control.

My theory is that the Crippled god's magic is to subvert an existing warren in some way so that it becomes chaotic.

[nacht]

Roger Ramjet, on 06 February 2011 - 06:44 PM, said:

First of all you should probably start by stating what kind of spoilers that are going to be in the thread in the thread description. That way people wont get spoiled if the accidentally click the thread without realising the subforum they are in.

nacht, on 06 February 2011 - 05:58 PM, said:

I am confused by the Crippled God's magic. A lot of place in MT and RG, the magic is described having "tendrils" of Chaos.
Can you really control "Chaos". Would't that make the CG really powerful.

Chaos can be used as a warren. This has been seen several times through out the series. Namely Hairlock and that crazy mage from RCG.

How ever it is a dangerous power that seems to always come with a price, be that your health or your sanity. Generally, it seems that unless you are very strong or very skilled you should not go anywhere near chaos because it will fuck you up.

The CG how ever is neither mortal nor normal. He is an Alien God. Whether this is what makes it so easy/beneficial for him to utilise chaos or it is rather a part of his broken aspect is not easy to guess. What ever the case chaos is destructive and so is the Crippled God.

nacht, on 06 February 2011 - 05:58 PM, said:

What is the god's ultimate goal? Is he trying to break his chains? Is he trying to destroy Wu? Is he just trying to create a cult, albeit a really screwed up one?

All of the above and more... or maybe less.

DOD Spoilers!

Spoiler

Every time he begins to get loose of his chains he is rechained. The Crippled God is trying to force the gods hand. Either he wants to be free or he wants to die. How this will happen is alluded to in MOI. Either Brood will use the Hammer to wake up Burn who will unmake the world to rid herself of the Crippled Gods virulent power, probably destroying the CG in the process, or she will die, freeing the CG and allowing him to pump his pain and corruption into K'rulls magic system and magic will be destroyed.

At least that is what it has seemed like so far. But DOD indicates that there may be more to it than we thought. The Crippled God is being used. Both by the EGs and by the FA. He seems to be more of a victim than a master mind.

But all that aside, the Crippled God is keeping busy, stoking the fires of the Pantheon War, trying to fuck up the world, creating cults worshipping the broken and sick and corrupt.

Thanks for the reminder regarding the spoilers. I have fixed the title.

Spoiler

I am not sure the CG can be killed. I am sure the gods would have preferred to that rather than to keep chaining him. He was also pulled through a rent in Chaos, not sure any god can really control Chaos, though there might be undiscovered patterns that some really good/crazy mazes (like Hairlock) can exploit. Also, what does "alien" mean. Probably just another warren, for example the Kenryllah's are alien, though that world is not completely unknown.

[chaosek]

I don't think the CG really has any purpose other than:

Spoiler

feed people his pain. He's referenced it in this piece again. He wants others to feel his pain. I think he is nothing more than a means to an end. All the supposed things he's been upto, except maybe the Edur was more generated by the ' evil doers' themselves than the CG. The whirlwind godess and Pannion were both crazy and out to the destroy the world of their own will, the just asked the CG for power and he gave it. Freely. Also most of the members of the house of chains seem to act of their own accord. Ask the CG and he will give freely of his pain.

[nacht]

Ah, found the MOI quote (completely forgot about this)

MOI

Spoiler

Krul to Envy

But, even chained, the Crippled God will not rest. He exists in endless, tormenting pain, shattered, broken within and without, yet he has turned that into a strength. The fuel for his rage, his hunger for vengeance ---

'The fools who pulled him down are long dea, K'rul. Vengeance is just an excuse. The Crippled God is driven by ambition. Lust for power is the core of his rotten, shrivelled heart.'

Perhaps, perhaps not. Time will tell, as the mortals say.

Another MOI

Spoiler

Conversation between Pannion Serr, Quick Ben and Paran:

'The Warren of Chaos, yes. Wherein is trapped a wounded god. The Chained One, a creature of immense power, a creature in pain, who seeks only the destruction of this world, of every warren - including Omtose Phellack. He is indifferent to your desires, Seer, and he has been using you. Worse, the venom of his soul -- he's been speaking ... through you. Thriving on pain and suffering .. through you.

So looks like tCG is actually located in the Chaos warren, though he is somehow chained to Burn. Maybe that is why he his able to use Chaos as a warren.

Loolike tCG believes in forecefully sharing his pain.

[D'iversify]

The Crippled God is probably utilising chaos simply because all the other major power sources on Wu are taken, i.e. already aspected. Plus he's messed up enough that chaos can't really make his situation worse. Chaos might in this case be viewed as a last resort rather than, as with Hairlock and Yathengar, being used out of hubristic curiosity.