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It may be disgusting, it may be immoral, it may even be barbaric. But I find a certain pleasure in eating an animal. Yeah, I'd eat synthetic meat if it was safe and tasted as good as natural meat. I suppose it would have to be cheap too, but I'm afraid I'll probably have a preference for natural meat because I am an evil carnivore.
Would you eat meat grown in a lab?
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 07:05 PM
I dont agree with this poll, why cant I just say yes? It seams biased.
Hmmm maybe in the future we will be able to make a clone of our body parts, not just as replacements but as meals! Can I eat my heart please?
Hmmm maybe in the future we will be able to make a clone of our body parts, not just as replacements but as meals! Can I eat my heart please?
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 10:46 PM
If the taste and the texture was the same, I would probably be down with eating artificial meat. But out of principal I would probably eat real meat having grown up on a farm and all...
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 01:43 AM
It would really dampen the pleasure I get out of eating meat in front of vegetarians and vegans.
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 02:21 AM
Primateus, on 02 February 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:
It may be disgusting, it may be immoral, it may even be barbaric. But I find a certain pleasure in eating an animal. Yeah, I'd eat synthetic meat if it was safe and tasted as good as natural meat. I suppose it would have to be cheap too, but I'm afraid I'll probably have a preference for natural meat because I am an evil carnivore.
Totally agree with this except that I'd be willing to try synthetic meat but even if it tasted the same I'd probably still opt for the dead animal. In all honestly I won't trust anything "grown" like this until years and years of testing were done on it and even after that, judging by the way the FDA operates, I'd wait even longer.
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 06:10 AM
A real money maker would be if the synthetic meat were of exotic endangered animals.
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 08:21 AM
Maybe even guesses at extinct animals...
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I'd like a bronto burger please.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 08:33 PM
I bet a filet steak grown under lab conditions would be good. It would make cheaper cuts of cow nicer too because you wouldn't have random ribbons of fat running through a good bit. On the other hand, it might all be a bit too uniform and predictable. I'd definitely try it, so long as I could see the cell culture recipe to make sure they weren't adding mind control drugs!
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 08:44 PM
I dunno about it being better, I mean, the fat has so much flavor! EX: Bacon.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 09:29 PM
Mezla PigDog, on 04 February 2011 - 08:33 PM, said:
I bet a filet steak grown under lab conditions would be good. It would make cheaper cuts of cow nicer too because you wouldn't have random ribbons of fat running through a good bit. On the other hand, it might all be a bit too uniform and predictable. I'd definitely try it, so long as I could see the cell culture recipe to make sure they weren't adding mind control drugs!
could they make lab-grown porkchops with all those fatty veins on the outside?
I mean, fat is good, especially when fried well.
edit: also, this meat would still need to be fryable on a pan. if it's microwave only, i'm out.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 10:00 PM
I think it would be quite tricky. They can grow things like ears using collagen matrices for the cells to use as a scaffold. But that's one type of cell. I'm not sure how they'd get the different types (muscle and fat) on there in a natural configuration. It must be possible eventually. That's why I thought fillet steak would be good as it's pure muscle for the most part and they can grow that (not necessarily in steak thickness but they can do a few micro meters thickness!! It's uber expensive though and I doubt anyone has tasted it 
). Anything else, they would really have to control the transition between fat and muscle so it would be very uniform. You might be able to get perfectly linear streaky bacon!!
). Anything else, they would really have to control the transition between fat and muscle so it would be very uniform. You might be able to get perfectly linear streaky bacon!!
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Posted 05 February 2011 - 01:13 PM
A friend and me had a discussion about this a while ago. Would you have to exercise the muscle in the meat? Maybe by getting it to twitch via electric current? If so, can you imagine how disturbing it would be working in a factory that was full of randomly twitching mounds of flesh?
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Posted 06 February 2011 - 01:17 PM
I think I read that lab grown muscle tissue starts firing on its own after it reaches some kind of criticial mass. I can't decide if I did read it or if I'm thinking of the synapses in the movie Deep Blue Sea....... But yeah, it would be weird. How big a chunk do you grow?
I can't see a way of it being cheaper than those US mega-factory farms any time soon.
I can't see a way of it being cheaper than those US mega-factory farms any time soon.
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Posted 07 February 2011 - 01:03 PM
I like the idea of perfectly linear streaky bacon. That sounds awesome.
As for twitching, it might be better for it not to be exercised. You would end up with every piece of meat being as tender as veal or lamb!
Without the various ethical issues associated with eating each.
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That raises another question.
Say I'm a vegan or vegetarian for reasons of ethical treatment of animals (moreso than, say, pure nutrition-related reasons). Would it be OK to eat lab grown meat? It does not come from any animal, it merely contains animal cells.
Do ethics of meat eating extend to meat that was never part of a closed-form animal to begin with?
Also, do we need now to name these new meat lumps as new artificial species?
As for twitching, it might be better for it not to be exercised. You would end up with every piece of meat being as tender as veal or lamb!
Without the various ethical issues associated with eating each.
EDIT
That raises another question.
Say I'm a vegan or vegetarian for reasons of ethical treatment of animals (moreso than, say, pure nutrition-related reasons). Would it be OK to eat lab grown meat? It does not come from any animal, it merely contains animal cells.
Do ethics of meat eating extend to meat that was never part of a closed-form animal to begin with?
Also, do we need now to name these new meat lumps as new artificial species?
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Posted 29 May 2011 - 03:14 AM
Seen and smelled too many lab cultures. Plus I watched that Better off Ted episode. I would rather be vegetarian.
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:14 AM
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 05:26 PM
Gothos, on 03 June 2011 - 11:14 AM, said:
Revive the ancient horror: Gem Windcaster the Destroyer.
Actually, that would be awesome fun
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Tapper, on 03 June 2011 - 05:26 PM, said:
Gothos, on 03 June 2011 - 11:14 AM, said:
Revive the ancient horror: Gem Windcaster the Disingenuator.
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