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Would you eat meat grown in a lab?

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Would you eat fake meat?

  1. Yes. Exclusively if it was tasty and nutricious (22 votes [51.16%])

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  2. Yes. But mostly as a supplement to natural meat (11 votes [25.58%])

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  4. No. (4 votes [9.30%])

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#1 User is offline   Aptorian 

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 01:26 PM

I recall us having a similar discussion before, but I can't find it.

http://news.yahoo.co...atory_feature_1

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South Carolina scientist works to grow meat in lab
By Harriet McLeod Harriet Mcleod – Sun Jan 30, 10:00 am ET CHARLESTON, South Carolina (Reuters) – In a small laboratory on an upper floor of the basic science building at the Medical University of South Carolina, Vladimir Mironov, M.D., Ph.D., has been working for a decade to grow meat.

A developmental biologist and tissue engineer, Dr. Mironov, 56, is one of only a few scientists worldwide involved in bioengineering "cultured" meat.

It's a product he believes could help solve future global food crises resulting from shrinking amounts of land available for growing meat the old-fashioned way ... on the hoof.

Growth of "in-vitro" or cultured meat is also under way in the Netherlands, Mironov told Reuters in an interview, but in the United States, it is science in search of funding and demand.

The new National Institute of Food and Agriculture, part of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, won't fund it, the National Institutes of Health won't fund it, and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration funded it only briefly, Mironov said.

"It's classic disruptive technology," Mironov said. "Bringing any new technology on the market, average, costs $1 billion. We don't even have $1 million."

Director of the Advanced Tissue Biofabrication Center in the Department of Regenerative Medicine and Cell Biology at the medical university, Mironov now primarily conducts research on tissue engineering, or growing, of human organs.

"There's a yuck factor when people find out meat is grown in a lab. They don't like to associate technology with food," said Nicholas Genovese, 32, a visiting scholar in cancer cell biology working under a People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals three-year grant to run Dr. Mironov's meat-growing lab.

"But there are a lot of products that we eat today that are considered natural that are produced in a similar manner," Genovese said.

"There's yogurt, which is cultured yeast. You have wine production and beer production. These were not produced in laboratories. Society has accepted these products."

If wine is produced in winery, beer in a brewery and bread in a bakery, where are you going to grow cultured meat?

In a "carnery," if Mironov has his way. That is the name he has given future production facilities.

He envisions football field-sized buildings filled with large bioreactors, or bioreactors the size of a coffee machine in grocery stores, to manufacture what he calls "charlem" -- "Charleston engineered meat."

"It will be functional, natural, designed food," Mironov said. "How do you want it to taste? You want a little bit of fat, you want pork, you want lamb? We design exactly what you want. We can design texture.

"I believe we can do it without genes. But there is no evidence that if you add genes the quality of food will somehow suffer. Genetically modified food is already normal practice and nobody dies."

Dr. Mironov has taken myoblasts -- embryonic cells that develop into muscle tissue -- from turkey and bathed them in a nutrient bath of bovine serum on a scaffold made of chitosan (a common polymer found in nature) to grow animal skeletal muscle tissue. But how do you get that juicy, meaty quality?

Genovese said scientists want to add fat. And adding a vascular system so that interior cells can receive oxygen will enable the growth of steak, say, instead of just thin strips of muscle tissue.

Cultured meat could eventually become cheaper than what Genovese called the heavily subsidized production of farm meat, he said, and if the public accepts cultured meat, the future holds benefits.

"Thirty percent of the earth's land surface area is associated with producing animal protein on farms," Genovese said.

"Animals require between 3 and 8 pounds of nutrient to make 1 pound of meat. It's fairly inefficient. Animals consume food and produce waste. Cultured meat doesn't have a digestive system.

"Further out, if we have interplanetary exploration, people will need to produce food in space and you can't take a cow with you.

"We have to look to these ideas in order to progress. Otherwise, we stay static. I mean, 15 years ago who could have imagined the iPhone?"

(Editing by Jerry Norton)



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Not exactly the most scientific of articles, but it sets the tone.

Would you eat "artificial flesh"?

Personally, as I have stated before, I find the meat industry disgusting and would much prefer a different solution to the industrialised torture and slaughter of billions of living animals every year.

If it was safe and cheap I would switch to fake meat.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 01:39 PM

There would have to be a lot of testing before I would eat it. Years of research, etc.

But the idea and technology is really cool. Beam me up a cheesburger with bacon, Scotty.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 01:45 PM

If it's safe, tasty and juicy then yeh, why not!

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 01:48 PM

If they can make it taste good, sure. Though I admit the hunter in all of us will feel odd without the kill behind the meal :)
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 01:56 PM

I'd say no. But then I've had a few years to build up my... dislike... for anything that smells/looks like meat. I do think it's a good idea though. Especially if they can produce it cheap and in large quantities and make it taste good enough for meat eaters to consider it.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 02:07 PM

I think a better question would be: If they synthesized human meat, would you eat it?
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 02:22 PM

View PostShinrei, on 01 February 2011 - 02:07 PM, said:

I think a better question would be: If they synthesized human meat, would you eat it?


now THIS is a nice question. I must admit that I am deep inside a bit cannibali-curious.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 02:32 PM

View PostShinrei, on 01 February 2011 - 02:07 PM, said:

I think a better question would be: If they synthesized human meat, would you eat it?


We had that discussion in another thread as far as I recall.

The question is why would we be synthesizing human meat instead of cow meat or pig?

Is it more healthy? Can you taste the artificial soul?

Might as well ask whether we would eat human meat. Full stop.

If it was a question of survival in the wilderness, then sure, I'd eat it. Human beings are just highly intelligent animals. There's nothing but the taboo stopping you. Maybe some genetic instinct as well, but that is overwritten by hunger in the end.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 04:25 PM

Absolutely, if it tasted just as good (can't see any reason why it wouldn't). In fact, it is probably less dangerous than "wild" meat,since there's much less chance of disease.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 07:22 PM

Without a doubt. I eat quorn and that's grown in a lab, so why not meat, which is miles better cos it's actually meat?

Plus, we can finally eliminate the virus that is vegetarianism.
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 08:31 PM

Eat meat from a lab? You mean as opposed to the antibiotic-laden, filth-ridden, chemically-enhanced, factory farm meat most of us are currently eating? Gee, what a choice...
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 09:22 PM

View PostRoger Ramjet, on 01 February 2011 - 02:32 PM, said:

View PostShinrei, on 01 February 2011 - 02:07 PM, said:

I think a better question would be: If they synthesized human meat, would you eat it?



Might as well ask whether we would eat human meat. Full stop.



Um... not really. In a lab-meat scenario no humans are actually harmed.

And to answer my own question - why not? If no one died to provide it, I'd be curious. (which obviously means that in regards to the OP, yes, I'd be willing to eat frankenchicken)
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 10:12 PM

Would you taste human lab-meat if it was specifically labeled as baby flavor though?

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 11:43 PM

Mmmmmmm....baby flavor...tender and juicy...
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Posted 01 February 2011 - 11:57 PM

provided they tested it, to make sure there's no problems for at least 3 full generations of humans, sure. Meat is meat is meat.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 12:53 AM

Hell yeah! Bacon tree FTW!

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 01:22 AM

If it was AS TASTY as regular meat, sure, no problem, every meal (if it was cheaper). But if synth-bacon doesn't match up, well...
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 04:01 AM

Almost all the meat i eat comes either from when my grandpa has one of his steer slaughtered or a friend of mine kills a deer for me and another friend processes it. If they can make it taste as good as those, i'd be down.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 07:31 AM

View PostSlow Ben, on 02 February 2011 - 04:01 AM, said:

Almost all the meat i eat comes either from when my grandpa has one of his steer slaughtered or a friend of mine kills a deer for me and another friend processes it. If they can make it taste as good as those, i'd be down.


Lucky bastard - meat from hunting? That's exquisite.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 12:35 PM

The only problem I see with lab grown meat is that of homogenaity. Great that they can grow meat chunks fit for human/animal consumption, but nature adds a lot of nuance to its nutritive substances that might get missed in a lab.

On average, animal cells conform to a standard setup in a given animal part, which gives average nutrition content including fat, protein, carbs and the all-important vitamins & minerals, but there are also a lot of "extras" that get added in because of random events like cell mutation and other factors like diet. Even though the "extras" don't occur in great quantity, they can provide some nutrition that might not be there with a lab-grown substance.

On the other hand, some of the "extras" are not desirable, like mercury buildup, arsenic, hormones, antibiotics, etc... Lab grown meat could easily cut out these toxins since the nutrition supply to a lab-grown steak would be tightly controlled.

I guess, if I were to eat it, I would want to know what's going into growing the stuff. Cells can build new molecules but they can't build new elements or minerals, so to a certain extent, the nutritive value of a slab of meat is linked to the nutrition supply used to grow it. Much like comparing meat obtained from grain-fed animals to beef obtained from free-range grazing animals. The free-range grazers get a natural diet filled with natural nuance, which the animal's body is naturally optimized to. The meat they produce is more nutritious (pound for pound) as a result.

Basically, if my lab-grown steak is receiving a balanced diet I would be satisfied that it can provide the same balanced diet for me.
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