[Tellan]

You know what I am talking bollocks, I am very tired this morning, looking back I believe Sorrit is the scummy person, trying to divert people to different theories on chains, possible signal to Ampelas who is known sum.

re reading the entire thread more than once makes me think that Ruse and Fener are both Innocent. I am going to re read focusing on other people but for now I am going to

remove vote

vote Sorrit

[Kalse]

Happy Monday!

Having a read through I am getting a strong vibe that Sorrit needs to be lynched, however except for the possible signalling I haven't seen any other real evidence of scummy behaviour, unless I can be convinced otherwise

GL on the other hand, is playing it very cool with the whole collar deactivation imo, coupled with the fact that those who had suspicions against him ended up dead...I'm not sure, has someone else orchestrated all these signs to make GL seem like scum...perhaps but I have no idea who that would be so

Vote Galayn Lord

For the time being anyway

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. There is 29 hours and 36 minutes left in the day. Freeze is over, clock is now counting down

10 Players still alive: Barghast, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan

6 votes to lynch.

1 vote for Ruse (Sorrit)
3 votes for Sorrit (Fener, Ruse, Tellan)
2 votes for Galayn Lord (Osseric, Kalse)

Players not voted Barghast, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Silanah

[Ruse]

Kalse, on 24 January 2011 - 10:40 AM, said:

Happy Monday!

Having a read through I am getting a strong vibe that Sorrit needs to be lynched, however except for the possible signalling I haven't seen any other real evidence of scummy behaviour, unless I can be convinced otherwise

GL on the other hand, is playing it very cool with the whole collar deactivation imo, coupled with the fact that those who had suspicions against him ended up dead...I'm not sure, has someone else orchestrated all these signs to make GL seem like scum...perhaps but I have no idea who that would be so

Vote Galayn Lord

For the time being anyway

morning dudes. What do you mean collar deactivation?

[Tellan]

Path-Shaper, on 21 January 2011 - 04:21 PM, said:

A shattering announcement blares suddenly from loudspeakers throughout the island. The chirpy voice from the "orientation lady" from the day their nightmare on the island began announces in tone clipped with disapproval:

Alert. Galayn Lord's collar has been disabled. Repeat. Galayn Lord's collar has been disabled.

Where have you been? I think you should re read the whole of the previous page

[Tellan]

Kalse, on 24 January 2011 - 10:40 AM, said:

Happy Monday!

Having a read through I am getting a strong vibe that Sorrit needs to be lynched, however except for the possible signalling I haven't seen any other real evidence of scummy behaviour, unless I can be convinced otherwise

GL on the other hand, is playing it very cool with the whole collar deactivation imo, coupled with the fact that those who had suspicions against him ended up dead...I'm not sure, has someone else orchestrated all these signs to make GL seem like scum...perhaps but I have no idea who that would be so

Vote Galayn Lord

For the time being anyway

I don't think Galayn Lord is scum, I am going to read through all of his posts but I think scum are pointing the finger in his direction, maybe not on thread but certainly behind the scenes. His collar has been de activated so his partner is no longer attached to him. I think it is his partner we are looking for.

His partner could have done a find on night one and then de activated it night two. That is why there was only one kill night one? This is my thoughts on it anyway. I think scum will kill him if we don't lynch him so we should look elsewhere for scum. Smart play if you ask me.

I wonder how many scum are left.

[Hood's Path]

Tellan, on 24 January 2011 - 11:23 AM, said:

Kalse, on 24 January 2011 - 10:40 AM, said:

Happy Monday!

Having a read through I am getting a strong vibe that Sorrit needs to be lynched, however except for the possible signalling I haven't seen any other real evidence of scummy behaviour, unless I can be convinced otherwise

GL on the other hand, is playing it very cool with the whole collar deactivation imo, coupled with the fact that those who had suspicions against him ended up dead...I'm not sure, has someone else orchestrated all these signs to make GL seem like scum...perhaps but I have no idea who that would be so

Vote Galayn Lord

For the time being anyway

I don't think Galayn Lord is scum, I am going to read through all of his posts but I think scum are pointing the finger in his direction, maybe not on thread but certainly behind the scenes. His collar has been de activated so his partner is no longer attached to him. I think it is his partner we are looking for.

His partner could have done a find on night one and then de activated it night two. That is why there was only one kill night one? This is my thoughts on it anyway. I think scum will kill him if we don't lynch him so we should look elsewhere for scum. Smart play if you ask me.

I wonder how many scum are left.

Path-Shaper, on 18 January 2011 - 09:28 AM, said:

Rules:

All the usual stuff applies.
You may not self-vote.

SPECIAL RULE, SPECIAL RULE, SPECIAL RULE, READ THIS NAO AND NEVER FORGET IT:

In Battle Royale, each and every single alt has an explosive collar, just like in the movie.
Each player is connected by the collar to another player. You do not know who that player is.
Scum can be connected to innos and vice versa.

If the collar is activated, you die automatically after a full day and night cycle has ended (so if the collar is activated during night 1, you live for day 2, then for the night 2, then die at the end of night 2).
If your collar is activated as the result of a lynch, you die at the end of the next day.

Collars are activated at the following times:

* whenever someone is lynched, his or her connected partner's collar is activated.
* whenever someone is NKed, his or her connected partner's collar is activated.
* whenever a role activates a player's collar directly.
* whenever someone dies as the result of an activated collar, his or her partner's collar is activated.
* whenever someone's collar is deactivated, his or her connected partner's collar is activated.

Most roles in the game deal with collars.
BPs do not protect against exploding collars.

Final notes:
This game is intended to be bloody and as such, it can be over very quickly. As such, we'd advise to not waste time on frivolities.

We have a lot of new/ relatively new players, decent behaviour would be appreciated.

Bold is mine. I doubt anyone would knowingly deactivate their partner's collar since they would effectively be activating their own collar. Either someone is certain GL is on their team and doesn't mind GL's partner exploding (more likely a scum scenario) or someone know's that GL's partner is dead and deactivating it saves GL without endangering anyone else (more likely inno scenario). I think collar deactivation is more likely to be an inno role, but one that could do a lot of harm if used without all the necessary information.

[Ruse]

Tellan, on 24 January 2011 - 11:17 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 21 January 2011 - 04:21 PM, said:

A shattering announcement blares suddenly from loudspeakers throughout the island. The chirpy voice from the "orientation lady" from the day their nightmare on the island began announces in tone clipped with disapproval:

Alert. Galayn Lord's collar has been disabled. Repeat. Galayn Lord's collar has been disabled.

Where have you been? I think you should re read the whole of the previous page

dude, i have been seriously ill. i have been in bed for over a week. I just today made it back to work and have to catch up. I thought i had read everything, but its very hard to think or focus on a game of mafia when your doped or spluttering.

[Sorrit]

Ruse, on 22 January 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

Tellan, on 22 January 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

I thought Sorrit was a good choice but i'm inlined to vote ruse, i haven't been symping anyone.

vote ruse

so someone accuses you of symping and you immeadiately vote for the persjon you are meant to be symping. thats bizarre behaviour.

@sorrit - whats your case? that i called you out for signalling.

vote sorritt

My case Ruse, is that you're completely making random shit up to lead people into lynching as much as possible without even supporting things by basic logic. You see two unrelated lines (Amp stating that he finds the train fishy, and me stating that I favoured lynching omtose despite relatively little reason), shout "It's sympage!" and then leave that completely un-elaborated. Now maybe Tellan isn't your symp, grabbing your leads and backing them up overzealously, maybe he's just really gullible. But either way you have to actually make a case out of it or it is just bad play and looks like you're trying to pass banal arguments into the thread to keep us busy, which benefits no one but the scum as we waste time debating a non-sensical case that never had a logical basis and spend no time looking for or taking down scum.

Seriously, two unrelated lines, I could just as logically underline your "thats bizarre behaviour" line and declare it unequivocal proof that you're the Predator.

So now I'm going to take my own advice and stop talking about this whole lack-of-case, because it's not benefitting us in the slightest.

So, this GL business, it doesn't seem likely to me that he could be responsible for all the deaths people are accusing him of, he would've had to kill and activate 2 collars in the same night, but isn't a killing power good enough? If there was an additional scum collar-activating power I think it'd go to a different player, not added on to his kill. That doesn't make him any less suspicious though, but let's look about for who he might be partnered with, right?

[Tellan]

Sorrit, on 24 January 2011 - 02:00 PM, said:

Ruse, on 22 January 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

Tellan, on 22 January 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

I thought Sorrit was a good choice but i'm inlined to vote ruse, i haven't been symping anyone.

vote ruse

so someone accuses you of symping and you immeadiately vote for the persjon you are meant to be symping. thats bizarre behaviour.

@sorrit - whats your case? that i called you out for signalling.

vote sorritt

My case Ruse, is that you're completely making random shit up to lead people into lynching as much as possible without even supporting things by basic logic. You see two unrelated lines (Amp stating that he finds the train fishy, and me stating that I favoured lynching omtose despite relatively little reason), shout "It's sympage!" and then leave that completely un-elaborated. Now maybe Tellan isn't your symp, grabbing your leads and backing them up overzealously, maybe he's just really gullible. But either way you have to actually make a case out of it or it is just bad play and looks like you're trying to pass banal arguments into the thread to keep us busy, which benefits no one but the scum as we waste time debating a non-sensical case that never had a logical basis and spend no time looking for or taking down scum.

Seriously, two unrelated lines, I could just as logically underline your "thats bizarre behaviour" line and declare it unequivocal proof that you're the Predator.

So now I'm going to take my own advice and stop talking about this whole lack-of-case, because it's not benefitting us in the slightest.

So, this GL business, it doesn't seem likely to me that he could be responsible for all the deaths people are accusing him of, he would've had to kill and activate 2 collars in the same night, but isn't a killing power good enough? If there was an additional scum collar-activating power I think it'd go to a different player, not added on to his kill. That doesn't make him any less suspicious though, but let's look about for who he might be partnered with, right?

No we shouldn't look for Galayn's partner because his partner is already going to die. Did you not catch that? Basically because his collar was de activated his partner's was activated!!!

[Sorrit]

Tellan, on 24 January 2011 - 02:25 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 24 January 2011 - 02:00 PM, said:

Ruse, on 22 January 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

Tellan, on 22 January 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

I thought Sorrit was a good choice but i'm inlined to vote ruse, i haven't been symping anyone.

vote ruse

so someone accuses you of symping and you immeadiately vote for the persjon you are meant to be symping. thats bizarre behaviour.

@sorrit - whats your case? that i called you out for signalling.

vote sorritt

My case Ruse, is that you're completely making random shit up to lead people into lynching as much as possible without even supporting things by basic logic. You see two unrelated lines (Amp stating that he finds the train fishy, and me stating that I favoured lynching omtose despite relatively little reason), shout "It's sympage!" and then leave that completely un-elaborated. Now maybe Tellan isn't your symp, grabbing your leads and backing them up overzealously, maybe he's just really gullible. But either way you have to actually make a case out of it or it is just bad play and looks like you're trying to pass banal arguments into the thread to keep us busy, which benefits no one but the scum as we waste time debating a non-sensical case that never had a logical basis and spend no time looking for or taking down scum.

Seriously, two unrelated lines, I could just as logically underline your "thats bizarre behaviour" line and declare it unequivocal proof that you're the Predator.

So now I'm going to take my own advice and stop talking about this whole lack-of-case, because it's not benefitting us in the slightest.

So, this GL business, it doesn't seem likely to me that he could be responsible for all the deaths people are accusing him of, he would've had to kill and activate 2 collars in the same night, but isn't a killing power good enough? If there was an additional scum collar-activating power I think it'd go to a different player, not added on to his kill. That doesn't make him any less suspicious though, but let's look about for who he might be partnered with, right?

No we shouldn't look for Galayn's partner because his partner is already going to die. Did you not catch that? Basically because his collar was de activated his partner's was activated!!!

Sorry, I mean his scum partner, not his collar partner. I assume they are different, or it'd be far too easy.

[Fener]

So I'm not really sold on the idea of lynching GL. I find him suspicious; he makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, but I don't see how he could possibly be more suspicious than Sorrit.

The worst thing about GL's collar being deactivated is that he's basically safe from incidental collar explosions. Meanwhile, Sorrit's talking circles around people in an attempt to avoid being lynched yet again.

[Fener]

So are we done playing this game or something?

[Osseric]

Galayn Lord, on 22 January 2011 - 06:51 PM, said:

owwww, my head.


I am never drinking again until next time. woke up this morning in somebody else's resicence, with the vaguest recollection of how I got there.

as for the fact that the two ppl who suspected me got their heads blown off--it was night 2. by your logic (I think it's Osseric i'm adressing here), I would need to find these people's chain-mate, and deactivate their collrs. since/ both Merrid and liosan died from exploding heads.

I've gotta say, you flatter me by assigning me so much power, but I ain't got it. and if I did, it'd be horribly unbalanced.

Who said anything about deactivating partners' collars? I assume we'd have heard about that, since we did for you. Weird you would mention that, since I never did, and earlier you professed no knowledge of someone deactivating yours. There'd also be a delay, so you'd have had to do it yesterday. Not telling us something perhaps? I wasn't suggesting you killed them both either, I don't see why you or Sorrit would think that. Perhaps you're trying to engage in reductio ad absurdum, I don't know, but we've only had two deaths that didn't result from exploding collars, Omtose who was lynched, and Amp who was slit from ear to ear. We can only account for two of those four collar-deaths (i.e. Omtose and Amp's deaths), and I can't believe we've only had one NK so far. I'm less sure about all this now (in fact, I may be talking out of my ass), but your defense of that was odd.

Sorrit, on 24 January 2011 - 02:00 PM, said:

So, this GL business, it doesn't seem likely to me that he could be responsible for all the deaths people are accusing him of, he would've had to kill and activate 2 collars in the same night, but isn't a killing power good enough? If there was an additional scum collar-activating power I think it'd go to a different player, not added on to his kill. That doesn't make him any less suspicious though, but let's look about for who he might be partnered with, right?

Right now he looks partnered to you, actually...

[Osseric]

At the moment I'm looking at Kalse actually. He voted GL and I realised I couldn't remember a single thing he said (where's Silanah gone by the way?). Looking back though, he's pretty much only had one (maybe two) original thoughts this game, and never seems to have an opinion on anything. He simply appears and states 'I'm not really buying [insert rationale here]', which is fine in and of itself, but he ends up voting for people despite this, on the rather flimsy premise that we need a lynch.

Par exemple:

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Right, after trying to read through and being continually interuppted i'm not interested in the HP - Liosan link, i think that Liosan has decided that he will have a vendetta against HP in this game and HP is responding but I don't see it going any deeper than that.
Furthmore, I am also not buying the GL and Sorrit signalling, but would definently change my mind if Fener drops off!

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As I am not yet totally sold to the Sorrit signalling idea and as Liosans votes have come from three different reasons I am not yet convinced, perhaps some closer reading when I get the time will make things clearer.

edit: well to will

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Right okay, the only reason I can see for voting Liosan is that his argument for voting Galayn Lord is weak (but then agains so was his vote for HP, Fener, etc etc) and that he requested a reveal.

but as I am feeling goaded to vote esp by Tellan, let it be heard

Vote Liosan


edit: bold

What? You voted Liosan despite thinking the case was weak AND you felt pushed into voting?

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Happy Monday!

Having a read through I am getting a strong vibe that Sorrit needs to be lynched, however except for the possible signalling I haven't seen any other real evidence of scummy behaviour, unless I can be convinced otherwise

GL on the other hand, is playing it very cool with the whole collar deactivation imo, coupled with the fact that those who had suspicions against him ended up dead...I'm not sure, has someone else orchestrated all these signs to make GL seem like scum...perhaps but I have no idea who that would be so

Vote Galayn Lord

For the time being anyway

How can you have 'a strong vibe' that we need to lynch Sorrit without seeing anything to justify that? You just said you haven't seen any scummy behaviour, where is this coming from? Vibes don't just appear, they need a stimulus, however slight.
As for voting GL, you say you have a 'strong vibe' that Sorrit NEEDS to be lynched (or what...?) yet you almost piggyback my reasons for voting GL then suggest it's all a set-up, and still vote him anyway? Why do we NEED to lynch Sorrit yet you'll put a second vote on GL despite suggesting as others have that it looks like a set-up? If you think it's a set-up you don't vote for the guy being set-up, that kinda defeats the point. Going to read-up on Sorrit now.

EDIT - fucking quote tags...

This post has been edited by Osseric: 25 January 2011 - 12:50 AM

[Osseric]

Halfway through a Sorrit read-through, but I have to skedaddle for a while. Be back in a bit.

[Galayn Lord]

Osseric, on 24 January 2011 - 11:34 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 22 January 2011 - 06:51 PM, said:

owwww, my head.


I am never drinking again until next time. woke up this morning in somebody else's resicence, with the vaguest recollection of how I got there.

as for the fact that the two ppl who suspected me got their heads blown off--it was night 2. by your logic (I think it's Osseric i'm adressing here), I would need to find these people's chain-mate, and deactivate their collrs. since/ both Merrid and liosan died from exploding heads.

I've gotta say, you flatter me by assigning me so much power, but I ain't got it. and if I did, it'd be horribly unbalanced.

Who said anything about deactivating partners' collars? I assume we'd have heard about that, since we did for you. Weird you would mention that, since I never did, and earlier you professed no knowledge of someone deactivating yours. There'd also be a delay, so you'd have had to do it yesterday. Not telling us something perhaps? I wasn't suggesting you killed them both either, I don't see why you or Sorrit would think that. Perhaps you're trying to engage in reductio ad absurdum, I don't know, but we've only had two deaths that didn't result from exploding collars, Omtose who was lynched, and Amp who was slit from ear to ear. We can only account for two of those four collar-deaths (i.e. Omtose and Amp's deaths), and I can't believe we've only had one NK so far. I'm less sure about all this now (in fact, I may be talking out of my ass), but your defense of that was odd.

Sorrit, on 24 January 2011 - 02:00 PM, said:

So, this GL business, it doesn't seem likely to me that he could be responsible for all the deaths people are accusing him of, he would've had to kill and activate 2 collars in the same night, but isn't a killing power good enough? If there was an additional scum collar-activating power I think it'd go to a different player, not added on to his kill. That doesn't make him any less suspicious though, but let's look about for who he might be partnered with, right?

Right now he looks partnered to you, actually...

@ the underlined: PS did. in fact that's how people tend to explode in BR--when their chain-mate (diff from partner) collar is off. I don't see what is so hard to folow in my train of though, hammered as i was when I wrote that.

also, would you mind elaborating why i'm linked with Sorritt?

[Barghast]

Been busy and don't have much time now either. Basically, I am not buying that having your collar deactivated means you are scum. Sorrit should have been lynched yesterday (I know I didn't vote for him, but days have been timing out at bad times for me lately). So:

Vote Sorrit

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. There is 11 hours and 6 minutes left in the day.

10 Players still alive: Barghast, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Osseric, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan

6 votes to lynch.

1 vote for Ruse (Sorrit)
4 votes for Sorrit (Fener, Ruse, Tellan, Barghast)
2 votes for Galayn Lord (Osseric, Kalse)

Players not voted Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Silanah

[Fener]

K well I am not changing my vote at this point. Too bad there isn't much discussion but I'm just as at fault.