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Posted 05 January 2011 - 03:42 PM

Fix is going to die and Harry is going to accept the summer knight mantle as well - this may be after Ghost Story when Harry gets a (his?) body.

With both influences, it will give him great power for the upcomming apocalypse, as well as nullifying each other's influences over his actions.

I have seen nothing that indicates that this cannot happen so far, thoughts? Holes you see?
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:00 PM

A very interesting thought indeed. I'm sure the Summer fae would indeed consider him....but what sort of conflict of interest arises within that for both fae sides? Would Summer not want their knight to also be Winter's Knight? Is there a magical barrier that prevents one person being both? Or would the fae simply look at it as a supreme fae influence on humanity having both knight mantles rest on Harry's shoulders.

Something to think about definitely.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:12 PM

View PostObdigore, on 05 January 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

Fix is going to die and Harry is going to accept the summer knight mantle as well - this may be after Ghost Story when Harry gets a (his?) body.

With both influences, it will give him great power for the upcomming apocalypse, as well as nullifying each other's influences over his actions.

I have seen nothing that indicates that this cannot happen so far, thoughts? Holes you see?



interesting theory but i don't think i have see anything that indicates that this would happen? foreshadowing or hints?

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his soul may be wandering around, but so far it's not like it can't go back to Dresden's body, which would seem to be necessary for what you're proposing.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:18 PM

View PostObdigore, on 05 January 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

Fix is going to die and Harry is going to accept the summer knight mantle as well - this may be after Ghost Story when Harry gets a (his?) body.

With both influences, it will give him great power for the upcomming apocalypse, as well as nullifying each other's influences over his actions.

I have seen nothing that indicates that this cannot happen so far, thoughts? Holes you see?


Hmm, a different take on John Constatines deal with the three devils in Hell Blazer. It would be an interesting idea, but before it could happen I think a power or player would need to appear that threatens both courts of summer and winter, with Dresden being a necessary pawn in the game.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:18 PM

View PostObdigore, on 05 January 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

Fix is going to die and Harry is going to accept the summer knight mantle as well - this may be after Ghost Story when Harry gets a (his?) body.

With both influences, it will give him great power for the upcomming apocalypse, as well as nullifying each other's influences over his actions.

I have seen nothing that indicates that this cannot happen so far, thoughts? Holes you see?


Fairly certain Butcher said something about Summer and Winter in one body would be something like matter and antimatter.

It is one of the Q&A if I remember right.

Could be missdirection but hey who knows.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:18 PM

So... would we get another "broadcast to the entire fae world" boinking session?
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:19 PM

View PostAbyss, on 05 January 2011 - 04:12 PM, said:

View PostObdigore, on 05 January 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

Fix is going to die and Harry is going to accept the summer knight mantle as well - this may be after Ghost Story when Harry gets a (his?) body.

With both influences, it will give him great power for the upcomming apocalypse, as well as nullifying each other's influences over his actions.

I have seen nothing that indicates that this cannot happen so far, thoughts? Holes you see?



interesting theory but i don't think i have see anything that indicates that this would happen? foreshadowing or hints?

As far as we know, SPOILERS SPOILERS AFTERMATH SHORT STORY SPOILERS
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his soul may be wandering around, but so far it's not like it can't go back to Dresden's body, which would seem to be necessary for what you're proposing.


indeed. good point.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:55 PM

Abyss, Quick,

Have you guys gone to Butcher's site and read the early stuff on Ghost Story?

Do it.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:14 PM

Like every year I will attempt to stay away from the early chapters since that will only make the wait even worse.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:18 PM

It isn't even the early chapters, it is just the quick blurb about the book on his site.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:43 PM

View PostJenisapt Rul, on 05 January 2011 - 05:14 PM, said:

Like every year I will attempt to stay away from the early chapters since that will only make the wait even worse.


Yep, me too. I likes to go in clean-ish. LOL
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:55 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 05 January 2011 - 05:43 PM, said:

I likes to go in clean-ish. LOL

And come out dirty?
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:59 PM

View PostObdigore, on 05 January 2011 - 05:18 PM, said:

It isn't even the early chapters, it is just the quick blurb about the book on his site.


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Posted 05 January 2011 - 06:00 PM

the annual Dresdencrack fix is too short and too precious to spoil.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 06:08 PM

View PostAbyss, on 05 January 2011 - 06:00 PM, said:

the annual Dresdencrack fix is too short and too precious to spoil.


Agreed. :D
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 06:15 PM

I wish i could say i wouldnt check it out, I wish i was that strong. But we know I will....we know.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:24 PM

I really need to do a Dresden reread but with so many good books coming out lately I don't know when I will get the chance... Anyway...

The Gate Keeper, I can't really remember but do we have any reference to what his name/title actually refers to... Just ticking over wild speculation in my noggin!

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:25 PM

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I really need to do a Dresden reread but with so many good books coming out lately I don't know when I will get the chance... Anyway...

The Gate Keeper, I can't really remember but do we have any reference to what his name/title actually refers to... Just ticking over wild speculation in my noggin!



Something to do with the Outsiders/demons/whatever they are.

- Abyss, could be wrong.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:30 PM

View PostAbyss, on 24 January 2011 - 09:25 PM, said:

View Postchampooon, on 24 January 2011 - 09:24 PM, said:

I really need to do a Dresden reread but with so many good books coming out lately I don't know when I will get the chance... Anyway...

The Gate Keeper, I can't really remember but do we have any reference to what his name/title actually refers to... Just ticking over wild speculation in my noggin!



Something to do with the Outsiders/demons/whatever they are.

- Abyss, could be wrong.


Hmm, thanks!

Wild speculation

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:44 PM

Thinking about it, at this point all of the following have some form of claim on Harry...

The Winter Court, by way of the Winter Knight role AND Lea's 'Stepmother' bond;
The Wild Fae, by way of Toot, and possibly including the leader of the Wild Hunt;
At least one Outsider that Harry escaped as a kid;
His mother, by various ways including the ways amulet;
Mouse, by right of ownership or something;
That frog demon from Storm Front that has 3 parts of his name;
Lasciel, via Lash;
Uriel, via the soulfire;
Demonsreach, via their bond; and,
Odin possibly (Harry did eat his food and drink after all).


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