[Omtose]

Whew, thought I might have missed the lynch. Got caught up in a book I was writing.

Tiam's two posts (I can pull up the two I'm referring to, but they've both been pointed out before), did seem a bit odd to me, like he might have been ordering people around. That seems like an exceptionally risky move to make this early in the game, though, so that kind of lowers my suspicion. I'll go back through his posts and see if there isn't anything I can pick out, though.

Anyway, I said I'd be up for Liosan or Ruse, so here it is.

Vote Liosan

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 1 hour and 30 minutes remaining
14 Players still alive: Emurlahn, Galain, Kessobahn, Korabas, Liosan, Merrid, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Silchas Ruin, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

7 Votes for Liosan ( Korabas, Mockra, Galain, Emurlahn, Serc, Tiamatha, Omtose )
1 Vote for Ruse ( Rashan )
1 Vote for Mockra ( Silchas Ruin )

Players not voted: Kessobahn, Liosan, Merrid, Ruse, Tulas Shorn

[Ruse]

Wait I am here. Let me get caught up.

[Ruse]

Ok I am sitting down for dinner. Sorry Liosan but I guess your it. Sorry about my low posting today. I have been busy at work and what not.

Vote Liosan

[Path-Shaper]

Day 1 ended with 37 minutes remaining

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

8 Votes for Liosan ( Korabas, Mockra, Galain, Emurlahn, Serc, Tiamatha, Omtose, Ruse )
1 Vote for Ruse ( Rashan )
1 Vote for Mockra ( Silchas Ruin )

Players not voted: Kessobahn, Liosan, Merrid, Tulas Shorn

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As Yuan Shao's forces raced south to Jiang Ling, the vanguard lead by Wen Chou passed the coastal town of Mai Chang. He found the top of the wall crowded with banners, the moat below thick with sharp staves and barbed branches. Wen Chou reined in and shouted, "Open your gates in the name of the Emperor!" Kuai Yue, a former advisor to Liu Biao appeared on the walls and shouted back, "Traitors to the Han! How dare you spoil our peaceful province and hunt down the warlord Huang Zhong, a man of humane character and virtue!" His archers began firing at Wen Chou's party, who retreated to a safe distance.

However, from within the town another voice shouted out "Kuai Yue, common footslogger! Why do you incite sedition and expose the people to Yuan Shao's wrath? I, Zhang Yun, will cut you down and deliver this city to the Prime Minister!" Soldiers poured out of nearby buildings and charged the positions on the wall. By afternoon, Kuai Yue's archers had fallen or fled. Looking out upon his province of Jing, aflame all across the horizon, Yue was cut down by Zhang Yun, who immediately tendered the city to Wen Chou.

Kuai Yue, a former advisor to Liu Biao, is dead. (Liosan and High Mage Quick Ben)

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It is now Night 1. 6 hours remaining.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 02 December 2010 - 01:12 AM

[Omtose]

I really hate all of these Chinese names, makes it much more difficult to remember if a character has been mentioned in a previous scene or not.

Anyway, from what I immediately gathered from the post is that Liosan had at least one Huang Zhong who lynched him (given that it was someone within his own town that did him off). Hardly a surprise, considering that most, if not all, of us have no idea who else is in our faction at this point. Of course, Zhang Yung could just be a member of another faction who was in the same city as Liosan, but I got a feeling that it's someone from within Liosan's own faction.

[Omtose]

So, if we pull out our former speculation, in favor of YS having a majority, things are now either 6, 4, 5 (4 being Huang Zhong), or 7, 3, 3 (if YS is largest and ZX is smallest due to their win condition). Of course, all this changes drastically if YS isn't the largest faction. Not really much to go on at this point, until we see the result of night actions.

[Ruse]

Korabas, on 01 December 2010 - 08:10 PM, said:

Galain, on 01 December 2010 - 07:59 PM, said:

Korabas, on 01 December 2010 - 06:00 PM, said:

Please, can we please stop about the scum/ town thing here? No such thing. This is a faction game.
In the words of D'rek:


This is a 2-sided town-less, scum-less game.

Now, if there are two sides and one side is made out of 2 factions, guess which faction is the big one?

So you're basically saying that the majority are actually in Yuan Shao's faction. That's interesting. Hopefully you still think i'm talking sensible =p

It would not surprise me at all if that is the case, enough to speak out against what everyone else think is the likely scenario, yeah.
Part of my first reason (the number thing) is based on the story, admittedly, that is risky:

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Eager to begin his invasion and capture Liu Bei’s accomplice, Huang Zhong, Yuan Shao ordered the mobilization of half a million soldiers in the capital Luo Yang, divided into five equal contingents.

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Huang Zhong's meagre forces fled Xin Ye and traveled to Xiang Yang. The city was currently under the control of Liu Zong, son of the deceased former Jingzhou governor Liu Biao. The two forces joined together to defend the city. When Yuan Shao's vanguard arrived, Liu Zong's officer Wen Ping secretly defected and then set fires at the northern gate. Yuan Shao's forces rushed into the city while Wen Ping fought off all attempts to seal the gate. Huang Zhong and Liu Zong could not secure the walls, so their forces retreated west.

Word soon came that Yuan Shao had secured the northern bank of the Xiang River and had crack troops racing south to capture Jiang Ling. Huang Zhong's master strategist, Pang Tong, said, "Fang Ling enjoys natural defenses and has ample cash and grain. It can be held indefinitely. I advise you, my lord, to station yourself there. Let young Master Zong take his forces to besiege Jiang Ling while we work our navy into fighting condition and recruit more men. We can hold Yuan Shao off by thus placing our forces in pincer formation. For us to attack Jiang Ling together would leave us isolated." "Wise counsel," Liu Zong said. "However, I would ask that your forces help escort our siege weapons to Jiang Ling. After that there'll be time enough for you to proceed to Fang Ling." "Young master Liu has a point," Huang Zhong said and, after dispatching Wei Yan to Fang Ling with five thousand men, he headed for Jiang Ling with Pang Tong and Liu Zong.

In the west of the empire Zhang Xiu, stationed at Han Zhong, heard that Yuan Shao had moved into Jingzhou and was marching on Jiang Ling double time. He therefore assembled his counselors to discuss the defense of his territory. Zhuge Jin said, "Jingzhou adjoins our territory. Rivers and mountains protect it. Its people are prosperous. If we can seize and hold the province, we will acquire the resources to establish our rule over the empire. I propose that you send me to Shang Yong to exchange formalities with Huang Zhong. I believe I can persuade him and Liu Biao's former commanders to make common cause with us against Yuan Shao. Huang Zhong's cooperation would provide a firm basis for our grand strategy." Zhang Xiu adopted the proposal and dispatched Zhuge Jin to Shang Yong with gifts.

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So, we have 5 equal contingents for Yuan Shao, a traitor joining him, and perhaps Yuan Shao himself?
We have 20k on Zhong's side, and 4 named characters and see Wei Yan leave with a quarter of the force, and although Pang Tong sounds like something you order at a take-away, he actually has a wiki page, so 4 with Zhong.


In the Zhang line, so far only Xiu and Jin are mentioned.


By taking into account there are 2 sides, I find the above a likely division, myself.

Can you please stop posting in this color. I can't read it with out highlighting it.

[Galain]

It's a normal color, Ruse... I think there's a bug with one of the skins and fonts showing up weird on it.

Definitely appears that Liosan was a HZ.

[Serc]

Well.
That reveals a little bit less than I was hoping for.
However, does this mean that someone else joined Yuan Shao? Since they seemed to betray Liosan...
I need to stop reading into these scenarios.

[Omtose]

I don't think so. If someone changed factions, I think this would be done during the night. I just read it as at least one person on the lynch train was in his own faction.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Night 1. 4 hours and 4 minutes remaining
13 Players still alive: Tulas Shorn, Tiamatha, Serc, Galain, Merrid, Ruse, Omtose, Kessobahn, Mockra, Emurlahn, Silchas Ruin, Korabas, Rashan

[Kessobahn]

Wow, just completely missed everything. And not just due to time zones - I was rather distracted all day RL by some construction going on at home.

Doing a read-through. Not as easy to skim as usual because of the names.

[Kessobahn]

OK ... that was a very, very quick speed-lynch of Liosan. Understandable, given the lateness in the Day - hell, it could have just as easily been me. If it had been earlier, it would have been suspicious, and probably directed, but it's very hard to tell with time winding down.

I'm really trying to avoid reading too much into the scenes. Or maybe I'm just being lazy because of all the Chinese names.

I'm not going to speculate on numbers distribution at this point. It could be a YS majority of low-powered Roles ... it could be a YS minority of high-powered Roles and recruitment capability. There's absolutely no way to know (well, for anyone who's not actually in that faction).

[Emurlahn]

We had to lynch someone, im still not sure how mockras rant managed to get him off the hook as he didnt really say much but give aggro which managed to change everyones mind, admitidly there wasnt much of an argument for his lynch once he started posting, but his fuck everything atitude wasnt particularly endearing...


that said kessobahns post that proceeds this has no use other than to put his name on the thread, he hasnt really speculated on anything that hasnt already been said....maybe we can get some more posts going today

[Omtose]

I'll be around for another hour. Was hoping to see night actions get resolved before I have to go, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Something to look forward to in the morning, I suppose.

[Mockra]

Liosan, on 02 December 2010 - 12:04 AM, said:

Why people voted me.
Korbas: reason: low poster (dude theirs two people with lower posts)
Mockra: reason: I guess low posting, but probably to make sure he doesn't get lynched (Didn't this guy just get all pissed at everyone for doing what hes doing to me?)
Galian: reason: That I misunderstood how this game worked at first (In my defense there is a lot of weird Chinese names floating around)
Emur: reason: because he doesn't have anything else to do (OK...)
Serc: reason: He wants the CF (dude you say I am the target today after there was 6 votes on Mockra)

Well, actually, I was leaving, and you were the only viable option on the table (I knew Serc wanted to vote Ruse, but without knowing when he'd be back or that Korabas was still on, that was a potentially wasted vote in comparison). That and the fact I still had several votes, well...

Emurlahn, on 02 December 2010 - 04:40 AM, said:

We had to lynch someone, im still not sure how mockras rant managed to get him off the hook as he didnt really say much but give aggro which managed to change everyones mind, admitidly there wasnt much of an argument for his lynch once he started posting, but his fuck everything atitude wasnt particularly endearing...


that said kessobahns post that proceeds this has no use other than to put his name on the thread, he hasnt really speculated on anything that hasnt already been said....maybe we can get some more posts going today

I will certainly be around more for this coming day, so yes, hopefully more discussion will occur.

[Merrid]

Oh good,lots of content it seems. Let me get caught up.

[Path-Shaper]

After taking Jiang Ling and routing Liu Zong's forces, Yuan Shao's southern contingent marched north to encamp near Shang Yong and harass the Huang Zhong/Zhang Xiu alliance's southern flank. The hundred-thousand-man force was commanded jointly by the brother generals Lü Kuang and Lü Xiang. For the march north, Lü Kuang lead a three-thousand-man shock force fit out in iron armor to sweep aside any scouts or traps placed by the enemy. In the afternoon of the fifth day of the march, Lü Kuang reached the slopes of Magpie Tail Mountain and saw soldiers massed under orange and grey flags. As he advanced, an enemy general Wei Xu was spotted dispatching soldiers into elaborate prearranged maneuvers. Lü Kuang called a brief halt. "There must be an ambush ahead," he said, and sent a messenger to his brother and Yuan Shao's chief officer of personnel, Yang Dajang, who was with the main command. "It's only a decoy," Yang Dajang sent back. "There's no ambush there. Press on. We will follow."

Lü Kuang's force advanced and engaged in a brief skirmish with Wei Xu's forces, but the enemy fled quickly, leaving Lü Kuang vanguard to exit the narrow slopes uncontested. As Lü Kuang prepared to send a message of praise to the command group the earth began to rumble and enormous boulders tumbled from the mountain into the main army passing through the slopes. Behind the boulders came Wei Xu's troops crashing into the confused army. Lü Kuang used his crack troops to clear a path to the center of the battle, where he met his brother. Before they could rescue any other officers, the Yuan Shao soldiers threw down their weapons and surrendered to the enemy. The Lü brothers mounted horses and fled.

Yang Dajang, chief officer of personnel of Yuan Shao's forces, is dead. (Serc and Lisheo)

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It is Day 2. 31 hours and 59 minutes remaining
12 Players still alive: Emurlahn, Galain, Kessobahn, Korabas, Merrid, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.


Players not voted: Emurlahn, Galain, Kessobahn, Korabas, Merrid, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Silchas Ruin, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

[Mockra]

Woot! Go team!