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I'd just take the Douglas Adams approach - tell them that we've found a planet with sparkling vampires on it, shove them on a ship and make them sail into the Sun... or just dead ahead anywhere into distant space. Best towards the edge of the galaxy, though the Black Holes at the centre offer a nice alternative.
Would you go to Mars and never come back?
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 09:00 AM
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:40 PM
Cause, on 03 November 2010 - 08:27 AM, said:
IS their a point of colonizing mars if we cant get anything off it? Whats the point of mining it if we cant get the resources back to earth and so forth? Unless its just to get rid of undesirable population on earth, in which case the people we would most want to get rid of are the least likely to be able to manage a mars colony.
Wouldn't you make Mars the jump off point to further space missions? USe the metals and chemicals you mine on Mars to build the ships and the tools needed and go from there.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 01:00 PM
You Earthlings coming to Mars and having your terrorist anchor babies. Stay on Earth you...you...I want to say wetbacks but that doesn't make sense in space...um...well, shit...
I got nothing.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 02:00 PM
amphibian, on 02 November 2010 - 10:16 PM, said:
The Kim Stanley Robinson novels won me over....
You really want to be a semi-immortal octogenerian making sex with other old people and endlessly debating what sort of society you're going to build once everyone else outside the dome finishes killing each other?
Mentalist, on 03 November 2010 - 06:57 AM, said:
Nicodimas, on 03 November 2010 - 05:26 AM, said:
Yea, I would and I would make sure no goverments of any sort followed the people up there...
as beautiful as this, sounds, it's a pipe dream, Nico.
especially if you toss people into extreme conditions like colonizing Mars.
people will need to band together to survive. ...it's inevitable.
mentalist got it. Even if you had a utopian group of people who were all about having a free spirit free love nudist colony in one chunk of Mars, they're going to need tech support from the call centre over in the iColony next valley over.
Sombra, on 03 November 2010 - 08:55 AM, said:
Could we send Tairy and all his fans? PLEASE! 
...
...I'm not sure it's safe to give them that much space to breed. That's only a short step to giant killer chicken down the gravity well.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 08:37 PM
I'd go. Imagine the trip over! You could have the entire back catalogue of the worlds movies, books and music on a computer and teach yourself all sorts of new subjects. Hopefully you would end up with some like minded people too. If they don't turn out to be like minded? Well, in space, nobody can hear them scream! Or at best, you've got a whole planet to put between you and them if the technology allows it. If the technology doesn't allow it? Well, on Mars, I am the law!! I'd probably happily go on my own too. I will have hot running water and a lifetimes supply of toilettries right? I don't do camping, particularly without oxygen.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 08:46 PM
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise a kid...
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 03:42 AM
I'd consider it if I were in the very first group to go - you know, get a name in the history books and all that. Otherwise, I happen to like my fresh air and trees far too much!
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 04:00 AM
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If researchers can engineer the basics for us, like a mechanism with which to grow food (either in martian soil enriched, or hydroponics, etc) and the manpower and facilities to produce equipment I would go for certain. That would need a large-scale population and some serious heavy mining equipment.
If it is a poorly-operated kamikaze mission, I'd probably still go.
If it is a poorly-operated kamikaze mission, I'd probably still go.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 04:39 AM
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There is nothing more in this world I want more than to simply go into space. To leave behind Earth temporarily or permanently. There's so much to see, so much to experience, so much to learn.
Space always brings me the deepest sense of wonder, nothing else comes close and I doubt anything else ever will.
I love and hate looking into the night sky. I love the immensity, the unknown the promise it offers. I hate that it reminds me each time we've stagnated. That now cutting edge technology is the newest bloody app for some stupid phone and not going to the Moon and beyond. That our dreams have died and our attention spans so narrowed.
I want my future back, not another diversion, nor another gadget or bloody reality show.
More than anything I want to go into the great black sky if only to let me believe for an instant that as a species we truly can do it. To fill me with hope, with that sense of wonder I adore. I want to leave cynicism and disappointment behind if only for a moment.
I want to know that we are more, that one day we will truly play among the stars, regardless of the difficulty.
There is nothing more in this world I want more than to simply go into space. To leave behind Earth temporarily or permanently. There's so much to see, so much to experience, so much to learn.
Space always brings me the deepest sense of wonder, nothing else comes close and I doubt anything else ever will.
I love and hate looking into the night sky. I love the immensity, the unknown the promise it offers. I hate that it reminds me each time we've stagnated. That now cutting edge technology is the newest bloody app for some stupid phone and not going to the Moon and beyond. That our dreams have died and our attention spans so narrowed.
I want my future back, not another diversion, nor another gadget or bloody reality show.
More than anything I want to go into the great black sky if only to let me believe for an instant that as a species we truly can do it. To fill me with hope, with that sense of wonder I adore. I want to leave cynicism and disappointment behind if only for a moment.
I want to know that we are more, that one day we will truly play among the stars, regardless of the difficulty.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 07:40 AM
stone monkey, on 03 November 2010 - 08:46 PM, said:
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise a kid...
Starsiege's Dirtborn and Dusters? ;] A kid born and raised on Mars could never go to Earth without fractures.
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 08:18 AM
Sombra, on 03 November 2010 - 08:55 AM, said:
Could we send Tairy and all his fans? PLEASE! 
EDIT: Ooooh, throw in Stephanie Meyer and all the Twitards (sadly that'll be a fleet of big-arse ships). They could breed with the SoTards and then we would have the ultimate degenerate mutant lifeform exclusively for hunting with BFGs.
EDIT: Ooooh, throw in Stephanie Meyer and all the Twitards (sadly that'll be a fleet of big-arse ships). They could breed with the SoTards and then we would have the ultimate degenerate mutant lifeform exclusively for hunting with BFGs.
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
You're wrong! You're absolutely wrong!
Whether or not we can get anything off of Mars, like sending mined materials back to Earth, is irrelevant. Colonizing Mars is cool and therefore, by defintion, not something one should do to ones "enemies"
Screw you all, and have a nice day!
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Posted 04 November 2010 - 12:16 PM
No. Not for all the money in the world, simply because it will not be fun.
The first colonists going are only going to work, work, work and are going to be social bores because they are all experts on something technological and have been trained and conditioned for years by companies who hope to make a profit and are not going to invest in a sociable habitat. Luxury? Non-existant. After all, nearly every ground structure has to be imported from earth until there's a concrete/ mining mill running and a tool plant has been produced.
The man-woman ratio is going to be all wrong as well (how many oil-drilling platforms, space stations and aeronautical companies have even a 1 woman for 3 men ratio?) which will lead to massive frustration amongst a group of people who are already testosterone freaks (if explorer types) or loners (techies). Food is going to be a massive problem, as well.
In all honesty, I expect it is about as much fun as being part of a Mount Everest climbing expedition, only one lasting 40 fucking years. It is exciting to prep for, it is a great memory and story once you're back, but it is hell while on it.
The first colonists going are only going to work, work, work and are going to be social bores because they are all experts on something technological and have been trained and conditioned for years by companies who hope to make a profit and are not going to invest in a sociable habitat. Luxury? Non-existant. After all, nearly every ground structure has to be imported from earth until there's a concrete/ mining mill running and a tool plant has been produced.
The man-woman ratio is going to be all wrong as well (how many oil-drilling platforms, space stations and aeronautical companies have even a 1 woman for 3 men ratio?) which will lead to massive frustration amongst a group of people who are already testosterone freaks (if explorer types) or loners (techies). Food is going to be a massive problem, as well.
In all honesty, I expect it is about as much fun as being part of a Mount Everest climbing expedition, only one lasting 40 fucking years. It is exciting to prep for, it is a great memory and story once you're back, but it is hell while on it.
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Posted 07 November 2010 - 11:46 PM
Gothos, on 04 November 2010 - 07:40 AM, said:
stone monkey, on 03 November 2010 - 08:46 PM, said:
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise a kid...
Starsiege's Dirtborn and Dusters? ;] A kid born and raised on Mars could never go to Earth without fractures.
Elton John's "Rocket Man" actually. Who shows up in a cool Alastair Reynolds short story actually.
I'm not sure about fractures; stress fractures maybe. And Mars' gravity is a 1/3g so they wouldn't be having a great deal of fun; people don't get fractures at 3g but they do have to be careful.
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 06:42 PM
But what if the locals kill us and take our places?
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 08:36 PM
It can't be a worse fate than watching John Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars.
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 12:33 AM
Tapper, on 04 November 2010 - 12:16 PM, said:
No. Not for all the money in the world, simply because it will not be fun.
The first colonists going are only going to work, work, work and are going to be social bores because they are all experts on something technological and have been trained and conditioned for years by companies who hope to make a profit and are not going to invest in a sociable habitat. Luxury? Non-existant. After all, nearly every ground structure has to be imported from earth until there's a concrete/ mining mill running and a tool plant has been produced.
The man-woman ratio is going to be all wrong as well (how many oil-drilling platforms, space stations and aeronautical companies have even a 1 woman for 3 men ratio?) which will lead to massive frustration amongst a group of people who are already testosterone freaks (if explorer types) or loners (techies). Food is going to be a massive problem, as well.
In all honesty, I expect it is about as much fun as being part of a Mount Everest climbing expedition, only one lasting 40 fucking years. It is exciting to prep for, it is a great memory and story once you're back, but it is hell while on it.
The first colonists going are only going to work, work, work and are going to be social bores because they are all experts on something technological and have been trained and conditioned for years by companies who hope to make a profit and are not going to invest in a sociable habitat. Luxury? Non-existant. After all, nearly every ground structure has to be imported from earth until there's a concrete/ mining mill running and a tool plant has been produced.
The man-woman ratio is going to be all wrong as well (how many oil-drilling platforms, space stations and aeronautical companies have even a 1 woman for 3 men ratio?) which will lead to massive frustration amongst a group of people who are already testosterone freaks (if explorer types) or loners (techies). Food is going to be a massive problem, as well.
In all honesty, I expect it is about as much fun as being part of a Mount Everest climbing expedition, only one lasting 40 fucking years. It is exciting to prep for, it is a great memory and story once you're back, but it is hell while on it.
Nice stereotypes you got there. I've met a lot of experts in various fields and most of them are pleasent company from what I've seen. Why do being an expert make you socially clumsy?
And lol at the other assumption, that explorer types are testosterone freaks? Don't even know what to say to that..
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 01:25 PM
Bonesaw85, on 10 November 2010 - 05:59 AM, said:
If there's sweet alien pussy and crazy space weed...... Fuck it, I would.
Now this guy is the one we need leading the Space Exploration Team. "Screw the food processors & power plant - get those seeds into the hydroponics lab STAT!! Bring me the intern from Astrophysics, I need a massage!!"
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