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Posted 26 October 2010 - 05:17 PM

It's quite comical... Ment's actually going to be alive tomorrow at this rate.

Shadow, on 26 October 2010 - 05:12 PM, said:

huh
just finished reading, and apparently i'm being killed, ;)


Bent's got a mistake on his hands here... but he doesn't realize it. He has been unlucky in his tin usage and doesn't know who they are.

Galain, on 26 October 2010 - 05:14 PM, said:

Also - for spoilers -

I was wrong about Game, appears I WAS guarded, and I am not trying to kill Shadow, as I think I would be better served to lynch him tomorrow if he doesnt die and keep 2 kills available to me.

Telas and Ruse are unknowns - either could be on my team, but I am getting a feeling Telas is with me, for some reason.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 05:21 PM

Ok, we are waiting on Tulas then?

Good job fellow mods, the game is just about over. Very likely going end with a house Deveaux win tomorrow night at this point.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 05:34 PM

House D has virtually 0 chance of winning right now... one guy is all they'll have left.

It's say it's probably 70/30 Venture or Elariel right now. It just depends on how the votes fall shortly after the day starts...

I have to head out for an appointment so I'll be gone for a little while. It's all yours, alt.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 05:47 PM

Cheers, thanks PB
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 05:50 PM

Shadow, on 26 October 2010 - 05:40 PM, said:

hehe
well, once Korabas gets on and acts.....

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 06:30 PM

Tulas Shorn, on 26 October 2010 - 06:21 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 October 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:

OK, we're officially waiting on you, Tapper...



Sorry. Ruse.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 06:47 PM

Ok resolution is simple for a change

Korabas dies, Tulas gets Steel off of Ruse, Ruse has no vote, Galain has two votes
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 08:33 PM

Tapper's trying to figure it out... and he's basically got it all sorted out. He knows Telas or Korv is a housemate, the other is D, and the other 3 (at least started) as House V. But who can he lynch?

It's got to go pretty fast today... Galain can swing it VERY fast if he wants to.

Tulas Shorn, on 26 October 2010 - 08:11 PM, said:

Fuck.
I don't have enough of a read on people to identify who is who with certainty. I doubt Galain is on my side - I fear I'll have to look to the Gamelon/Liosan trains to determine who is who, as I think I am the only Elariel on the Game one, as my master was the one to push Liosan.

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sticking the previous faction look up from yesterday to give a bigger picture.

day 1 lynch

1 Vote for Emurlahn ( Fener )
10 Votes for Mockra ( Liosan, Korvalain, Serc, Merrid, Galain, Mockra, Gamelon, Thyrllan, Shadow, Telas )
Mockra is dead. He was of House Deveaux (13 posts)

night 1 deaths
Fener is Dead, he was of House Elariel ( 4 posts)
Serc is Dead, he was of House Deveaux ( 10 posts)
Silchas Ruin is Dead, he was of House Elariel (2 posts)

day 2 lynch

2 Votes for Liosan ( Thyrllan, Emurlahn )
8 Votes for Emurlahn ( Korvalain, Ruse, Tulas Shorn, Liosan, Galain, Tiamatha, Korabas, Shadow )

Emurlahn is dead, he was of House Venture (21 posts)

night 2

Merrid is dead, he was of House Elariel (26 posts)
Tiamatha is dead, he was of House Venture (12 posts)

day 3 lynch
5 Votes for Liosan ( Thyrllan, Omtose, Korabas, Gamelon, Korvalain (telas))
6 Votes for Gamelon ( Galain, Tulas Shorn, Sukhul Ankhadu, Liosan, Ruse, Shadow)


Gamelon is dead. He was of House Deveaux. (18 posts)
Sukhul Andu is Dead, he was of House Venture (11 posts)
Omtose is Dead, he was of House Deveaux (15 posts)
Thyrllan is dead, he was of House Elariel (34 posts)

We know that gamelon wasnt mistborn for venture because of sukhuls cf.
We know that liosan is not the mistborn for elariel or deveaux.

damnit have to go. will finish this in a bit or someone else can do it.


It is Day 4. 22 hours and 11 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Galain, Korabas, Korvalain, Liosan, Ruse, Shadow, Telas, Tulas Shorn

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Liosan ( Korabas, Telas, Tulas Shorn, Ruse, Galain, Korvalain )
1 Vote for Galain ( Liosan )

Players not voted: Shadow

Korabas is dead, he was Deveaux.




So, Ruse is not Deveaux. Nor is Galain. Nor is Shadow.
Korvalain or Telas might be. Whoever of them is not the Deveaux, is likely my last surviving friend.

And there is no way to know, as there has been NO signalling whatsoever from either of them and Thyr was late to every vote, so there is little to deduce from people following him. Telas once hammered, on a train Korv (nearly) started.
I probably misread a lot.

Now, IF there still is a Mistborn alive, it will be the Venture one, who will likely know everyone on his faction. Which means I cannot accuse him and he will vote against me.

I'd normally press a lynch on Shadow, but him saying he was voting with his Mistborn and dibs replying cheeky git as well as dibs pushing a case on him when there was no case can be constructed as symp signalling master.

So, that means Galain. On who there is no real read, I fear. Fuck.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 08:44 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 21 October 2010 - 07:46 PM, said:

Quoted for future posterity because I suspect this will be hilarious.

View PostLiosan, on 21 October 2010 - 07:41 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 21 October 2010 - 07:33 PM, said:

I have a developing theory as to who the Inquisitor is, but you're going to be shocked to learn that I'm not my own top suspect.


Well, that's tantalising. XD



Can I just say, that I knew at this point in time, that Thyrllan was going to say I was the Inquisitor. I don't know how I knew, but I did. :S

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:01 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 26 October 2010 - 07:14 AM, said:

Silencer needs to stop bitching about "smooth" being a good case.

It's a shitty case, but it's all I had against someone I knew was scum. He would have taken a lot longer to suspect (at least another Day) if I didn't have that hard information.

My hitting Liosan on Night 1 upset a lot of potential outcomes, and really just made his lynching - and my NK death - inevitable.

And I was hugely thrown off by Pewter - I thought it would really be useful even against the SI.


No, it's a shitty case. WHICH GETS PEOPLE LYNCHED.

My point is, you had nothing but a find. Instead of using that find to reveal, or to find other things to make a case out of, you just said: "Oh, damn, he's playing smooth!". WHICH IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. I can't defend against that. I can't argue against it. In a faction game, a case like that is GODLIKE. No-one has any reason NOT to lynch me on a poor case. So it is retarded.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:03 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 26 October 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

View PostTattersail, on 26 October 2010 - 10:56 AM, said:

is that a lynch? Galain just voted. It's been so good today, 117 notifications in my hotmail, reading through with a bacon and egg barm, delicious and exciting reading. As it's a game people who play smooth may look to play a little rough, maybe a little obvious so that people will look the other way. It is the first mafia I have watched and I am definitely thrilled, I found I was playing along without even knowing it :s


Liosan nerfed Telas's vote last night, so it will take another vote before Lio is lynched. Glad you are enjoying yourself.

And the whole thing about playing smooth was bullshit on thyr's side, he just didnt have anything else to go after Lio with after he got told Lio is scum. The rest of his faction of latched onto it of course and proceeded to wax lyrical and push the case. Lio is right to be a bit irritated about being lynched for being too smooth, only what he doesn't know is he's actually being lynched because Thyr tried to kill him night one.


Oh, I figured that when Thyr posted his first case. That doesn't make the "smooth" crap any less ridiculous.

It's not about whether you're actually right or wrong behind the case, it's the type of case you chose to make. The "smoothness" case is so bullshit, so incredibly indefensible, that you can't win.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:06 PM

Anyway, game was great!

Thanks alt, PB and Hoosier for running this, it was a real blast, if let down by some emocide/low-posting/bad cases on the player's part (and I include myself in that, btw). It's a shame the FM mechanics never came into play, that would have been ridiculously awesome.

I'm kinda ticked off about the lack of a spike night two - a mechanic which really kinda screwed me over.

If I had survived yesterday, I would have:

Steel'd someone.
Brass'd someone.
Zinc'd someone.

With one lynch and at least one kill, that basically would have given me a voting block. XD Fuck recruits, way more powerful. Might not have worked, but that was my plan. Unfortunately people got a bee in their bonnet, and did the right thing - lynch the other candidate from the day before. *sigh*

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:14 PM

Yo! That's a lot to read up on, I'll get around that tomorrow. Great game, at least in my eyes - I survived for quite a bit! Sad that Venture are looking at a likely victory I think. Meh.

You also made me ask for the 3 Mistborn books as bday presents. Shame on you.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 09:20 PM

Odd, actually, most of our dead don't seem to have posted in here much.

Spoilers can be a bit depressing if you get done in early, but it's great to follow along the game (loving Tattersail's enthusiasm, lol).

Also, where's Vengy gone? He over the lynching yet? ;)

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 11:17 PM

Ment knows that a simple night vote wins it right now. Galain can't even be lynched today because his own team isn't going to do it, obviously. The problem is, of course, whether Shadow's team trusts him or not... Tapper has done a masterful job getting Bent to think they're on the same team. If they can get a lynch on Shadow or Ruse today and get Galain to kill the other, that would be enough. The tough part is going to be that as long as Galain kills a non-V (and he's got 2 Steel left, which is enough), he can't be lynched due to the faction-size tie.

Shadow, on 26 October 2010 - 10:46 PM, said:

ugh, please tell me Galain is just acting like a tool for the benefir of the thread.

teh 3 venture left are me him and Tulas, he does realise that, right?

I mean, i'm like 95% sure he's the one that saved my ass last night. why is he being so obtuse?

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 11:41 PM

Game's on the line right now... go big or go home and Stalker knows it.

Korvalain, on 26 October 2010 - 11:32 PM, said:

Trying to figure out how to play this one.

Ruse, Shadow are both Venture, unless one was recruited. but I don't think so. Based on their discussion during the last night, I believe that neither of them is the mistborn. Which means that either Galain or Tulas is the mistborn of venture.

Telas and myself are the only ones who I am sure is not venture.

The problem with straight out revealing, is that 3 players are Venture and will not vote for someone who I claim is venture. Even more so if I put on thread that both Shadow and Ruse are venture. Then they ally, with their mistborn and win. I need one of their votes in order to get 4 for a lynch. Because relying on there being a double vote between the 2 elarial and 1 deveaux is not good enough. So I either need to convince them that shadow is the inquisitor. Or I need to reveal Ruse as ventures mistborn, which I don't think is true. That way, the other Venture members may be ok with the vote cause they will know it is a lie.

Decisions, Decisons.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 12:46 AM

Genius play and a bit lucky, too, by Stalker. Ruse has absolutely no vote today. If Stalker put the vote on Shadow, he'd require Galain's votes to pull it off. As of now, he only needs Ment to do it...

Ment is going bonkers thinking it's over... but doesn't realize that Ruse is on his own team.

Shadow, on 26 October 2010 - 11:59 PM, said:

OOOOOOOOH

OOOH!!!!

Galain, I KNOW you're either Bent or Bubba.
GET ON AND VOTE RUSE THIS INSTANT!!!!!

we could seal the deal right now!!!!!!

Shadow, on 27 October 2010 - 12:12 AM, said:

I am SO power-lurking all evening today. the second we get more votes, ITS HAMMER TIME!!!

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:50 AM

Stalker's sneakiness is very becoming.

Korvalain, on 27 October 2010 - 02:21 AM, said:

gah, this lack of activity is sad. Which means I won't be able to sway arguments since I'll be asleep when everyone else is posting. So, I guess I have to reveal more info tonight.

My plan is to reveal my role, but lie about my finds. I will say that Ruse came up Venture (true) to get the non-venture votes. Then I will say that Shadow's find revealed that he was not on Venture. This, hopefully, will make him think that I am signalling him and he will believe that the Ruse reveal was a lie and vote accordingly. This all relies on my prior assumption that Ruse and Shadow do not know each other since neither is the mistborn.

Figured I'd let you know, since no one on thread is alive.


Ment's post short of the 'reveal'

Shadow, on 27 October 2010 - 02:31 AM, said:

yes, good
Telas is being ignorant, too.....


excellent


Shin having some regrets.

Telas, on 27 October 2010 - 02:48 AM, said:

Well, I will admit I wish I had my vig....despite not regretting my earlier action. Are you sure I can't have a second vig? ;)

Interesting setup, and although some may disagree, I would say I haven't had that bad a game.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:54 AM

And here's Ment 'after' seeing the reveal... wonder how he'll take it.

Shadow, on 27 October 2010 - 02:52 AM, said:

oh, wtf?
Korvy is Venture

then why is Tulas being so chummy with Galain?

does not compute, ;)

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:45 AM

Lol, things look very interesting at the moment. If Bent buys Korv's reveal and vigs shadow then Korv deserves an accolade for extreme sneakiness. Although there is a chance Bent will just vig Korv :) Still anyone's game if Ruse gets lynched.
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