[champ]

taken from http://uk.movies.ign.../1126148p1.html

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New York Magazine's Vulture took to the Fortress of Solitude and played a game of crazy Teleport Tag with Zod, Ursa and Non to get this logline: "...the story will follow Clark Kent, a journalist traveling the world 'trying to decide if he should, in fact, even become Superman.'"

Despite the idea's similarity to writer Mark Waid's Superman: Birthright comic from 2003, this sounds like a potentially interesting take worthy of Nolan's attention, and an idea that could make for Snyder's best movie. How exactly Zod, the movie's villain, factors into all of this remains to be seen.

[Aptorian]

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How exactly Zod, the movie's villain, factors into all of this remains to be seen.

Well, the obvious Hollywood solution is of course that Zod does something bad that convinces clark that he should step in and take up the mantle.

It would be interesting if they make Zod Clarks mentor... father? This time around having him be a figure head in Clarks early development, much like how Ras Al Ghul (sp?) was Bruces mentor in Batman Begins?

Let there be philosophical discussions on power and politics between the two, even grudging respect if they want to, and let the human parents influence be the deciding factor in Clarks world view.

[dktorode]

Sneider has now come out and said that Zod being the villian is just a rumor and nothing more.

DARKSEID anybody?

[Aptorian]

Well, it would be nice for once to have a superman film where the villain is actually scary and believable as villain in the film.

Wouldn't mind Doomsday either but if they did that I would demand that it was just a 2 hour long epic battle that ended with Superman dying and that would be that.

[polishgenius]

dktorode, on 15 October 2010 - 11:29 AM, said:

Sneider has now come out and said that Zod being the villian is just a rumor and nothing more.

DARKSEID anybody?

I want a combination of Braniac and Doomsday in the first film leading up to Darkseid in a potential sequel, or perhaps in a third film with, say, Doomsday and Lex in the first (Okay, Luthor's getting old in the films now, but he is the iconic foe and his lack of physical heft can be offset by Doomsday's brawn, who's lack of brains is likewise covered by Luthor's presence), Braniac in the second leading to Darkseid. He's too big a villain to use right off the bat, anything after that is automatically less of a threat.

This post has been edited by polishgenius: 15 October 2010 - 12:08 PM

[dktorode]

If anybody has the balls to do something like a Doomsday/braniac/darkseid slugfest it would be snyder

This post has been edited by dktorode: 15 October 2010 - 01:01 PM

[Binder of Demons]

Do you think the hiring of Nolan on this project i naddition to the Batman movies signals a renewed attempt by DC to do a Justice League movie. Since, as was pointed out before, the biggest obstacle would seem to be the disparity between the feel of the Batman movies and any previous version of Superman. But if you bring Nolan in, he can at least make them feel like they're part of the same universe.

Also when you have a Green Lantern movie in production, that's probably enough to allow a Justice League story to happen. And it might finally give DC a way to have Wonder Woman make an appearance without having to give her a full movie of her own (which they can't seem to make their mind up about). If I hear of a FLASH movie being made then I'll know they're looking to do it.

Since you seem to pretty well in the know DKtorode, do you think it's likely? And if so, any particular Justice League stories seem viable for the big screen?

[dktorode]

There is allot of talk about why they brought nolan in.
It could be to see if he can point them in a similar direction and make a superman movie that might be believable in the current batman universe.
Or it could just be simply because Nolan did so well with the batman franchise.

In my opinion i dont think they are going to be able to make the current Batman work with any type of supes no matter what they do with him....they would need to do something drastically different to what we know as "superman" to make it work with the current form of batman and that most probably will not work.
If Supes gets changed too drastically people are going to hate it. Or at least thats what the studio will think... they will try and be as safe as possible...although getting Snyder in might mean they are swinging for the fence on this one who knows.
I would like a to see a darker superman.
You know....Glowing/flaming red eyes when he gets pissed and doesnt take shit from no one.
Not this holier than thou one we have been getting for so long.

For me...It all depends really in what direction Nolan takes the next Batman rather than what i think this movie will give us....if he starts to bring in some more outlandish/mystical/comic booky type things in the next one and it actually starts to feel slightly more like a comic book world rather than the real world we live in (like he has been doing up till now)....then I think it might work.
That might be exactly what they are heading for.
maybe they dont know yet themselves if they can do it and thats why he is on board, simply to see if its even possible to do either in this one or the next batman??!
They surely must be thinking about it.

and if they do...hmm
Maybe somethign along the lines of JLA: Year One, Grant Morrison's first arc.
I dunno...there are so many, would have to be an origins story i suppose.

[champ]

http://uk.movies.ign.../1126895p1.html

interesting article which brushes off the talk of a JL movie... for now

[Beezulbubba]

Little known (but often used) Superman power > > > > super BJs

[Tiste Simeon]

I would love to see a Nolan-esque darkness in all the DC characters films, and lead it up to a massive ultra-dark and violent JLA film. But I don't see it happening. I don't think the studios would see that as a financially viable idea as they would still be pitching to a majority audience who don't perhaps care so much about the human side of the heroes. They think Spiderman 3 is the height of superhero excellence etc.

But it could be done.

[polishgenius]

Tiste Simeon, on 18 October 2010 - 03:47 PM, said:

and lead it up to a massive ultra-dark and violent JLA film.

You mean Kingdom Come?

[Tiste Simeon]

polishgenius, on 18 October 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 18 October 2010 - 03:47 PM, said:

and lead it up to a massive ultra-dark and violent JLA film.

You mean Kingdom Come?

I mean exactly that. Though I didn't think of it when I was writing it, Kingdom Come would actually make an excellent film if done well...

[Abyss]

Not gonna happen. Understanding KINGDOM COME requires at least a semi-working knowledge of the DC universe and then sufficient thinkymeatz to transpose that forward to the storyline for a few hundred characters in 2ish hours. OR it has to be dumbed down a LOT.

Tho i was impressed by how the JLU and Batman:B&B cartoons manage to use multiple and at times random characters with a minimalist intro - here's Blue Beetle. he has a rock, it gives him powers. Cue fight scene. Or even Bwana Beast - he dresses up like a Tarzan-ninja and makes freaky mutant animals. Proceed to fight scene. There's a certain clever to the way they did that with an equal amount of respect for the child audience, respect for the fundamentals of each character and a healthy lack of respect for essentially decades of (unimportant) storytelling - because no doubt Plastic Man's extensive history is important to someone (living in their parents' basement at age 35) but all the rest of us really care about is 'ex-con, stretchy powers'.

Which is why the Superman flics (and probably Batman, Spidey, etc etc) will always be not quite as awesome as they should be to anyone who read(s) comics.

DC and Marvel are putting out animated flics that try to accomplish this with varying levels of success tho'.

[polishgenius]

Abyss, on 18 October 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

Not gonna happen. Understanding KINGDOM COME requires at least a semi-working knowledge of the DC universe

It doesn't really. The first time I read it I knew nothing about any character that wasn't Batman or Superman and I thought it was great, and explained the key features of Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel necessary to the story very well. There's a lot of easter eggs for DC fans but I think it can be enjoyed reasonably cold.

Transposing that to film is another matter, of course.

[stone monkey]

Something along the lines of All Star Superman would also be great, but I can't see anything like that happening with Zack "Subtlety Is Merely A Word To Be Found In Dictionaries" Snyder directing...

[RodeoRanch]

There's an All Star Superman animated flick coming out next year.

[polishgenius]

stone monkey, on 18 October 2010 - 08:31 PM, said:

Something along the lines of All Star Superman would also be great, but I can't see anything like that happening with Zack "Subtlety Is Merely A Word To Be Found In Dictionaries" Snyder directing...

To be fair, I think that's harsh. He dumbed down Watchmen, but All Star Superman is no Watchmen. I think he'd do a good take on it, especially stylistically. And don't forget, Nolan's in control, although there's no Jonathan involved in the script afaik.

[Morgoth]

polishgenius, on 18 October 2010 - 11:21 PM, said:

stone monkey, on 18 October 2010 - 08:31 PM, said:

Something along the lines of All Star Superman would also be great, but I can't see anything like that happening with Zack "Subtlety Is Merely A Word To Be Found In Dictionaries" Snyder directing...

To be fair, I think that's harsh. He dumbed down Watchmen, but All Star Superman is no Watchmen. I think he'd do a good take on it, especially stylistically. And don't forget, Nolan's in control, although there's no Jonathan involved in the script afaik.

He didn't just dumb it down. Watchmen gained the subtlety of a sledgehammer when he got his dirty hands on it.

[McLovin]

I guess I must be the only person on the planet who actually liked what he did with Watchmen.