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#881 User is offline   Barghast 

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 08:01 PM

Here's your first post and really the only thing I can see you pushing for.

View PostKalse, on 04 October 2010 - 08:55 PM, said:

Based on this, the top threats to me are the Eldar, because we can't just lynch them (it seems), and the Chaos. Both of them have dual achievable conditions, which is going to make them hard to stamp out. Humans are feeling really outmatched, I think. XD


I have a theory that the 3 drop pods resulted in 3 human groups, each with their own leader, and each squad was a small counter to one of the factions. Kalse is borderline claiming to be one leader (Flemming I'm guessing since he has the hint that several us of should know him), possibly a counter to Eldar or Chaos. The problem is that Kalse wasn't my squad leader (I can't reveal who it is, sorry) so... I really have nothing to say one way or the other as to his validity.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:08 PM

Hmmm I'm leaning towards osseric right now, he seems to have just changed his vote when we told him to, and his info he revealed earlier doesn't make him human, there are still other factions that would like to lynch off other factions.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:11 PM

Osseric over both Kalse and Korv and based on less evidence than either?

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:16 PM

View PostBarghast, on 12 October 2010 - 09:11 PM, said:

Osseric over both Kalse and Korv and based on less evidence than either?


I'm not saying i'm going with osseric... Im just saying after my first quick skim I found the arguments on everyone, lacking. So I wanted to see if anyone else had anything on Osseric.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:27 PM

I'm out for the night. Ment is busy in Canadaland with sleeping as well, I guess.
So, you're alone for a bit. Ciao!!
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#886 User is offline   Barghast 

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:27 PM

View PostEloth, on 12 October 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 12 October 2010 - 09:11 PM, said:

Osseric over both Kalse and Korv and based on less evidence than either?


I'm not saying i'm going with osseric... Im just saying after my first quick skim I found the arguments on everyone, lacking. So I wanted to see if anyone else had anything on Osseric.



What is this? Amateur hour?

You just said "I'm leaning towards osseric right now," and didn't give any indication that you were going to pick either of the other two. You completely ignored the other two other than to mention factions lynching other factions.

And what makes you think, almost 18 hours into the day, that we suddenly have some huge case about to unfold on Osseric? There are two good cases out there right now. All of the factioned players are going to keep their hands to their chest and let this play out. Osseric's case could have been a play to save Korv. I doubt it, but it could have been. If someone wanted to save Kalse, they've had a little while now to try and do so.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:52 PM

View PostBarghast, on 12 October 2010 - 07:28 PM, said:

Funny you mention the Bird in the hand anology, I had actually thought of using it earlier... in my opinion, Korv is the safe lynch "in the hand" because it appears he is not Eldar. However, Kalse's lynch is "in the bush." If we assume both players are scum, then which lynch is safer over all? Kalse can potentially help the Eldar if he's one of them.

I think you should change your vote back to Kalse, Osseric, so there isn't a huge risk of a him not getting any attention due to a train on Korv. That way we're split 2-2 and we can swap votes as necessary if a lynch is stalling out one way or the other.



Well, if we KNOW that they both are scum, then yes... Korv is the safer lynch. But we don't know it. It seems we KNEW that Meanas definately wasn't town... but look where that got us.

but

remove vote

vote Kalse

just to even things up.

I will be around for lynch time I believe. though I need to look at the timing. Kalse's defense leads me to believe that he is just a recruit. If thats the case... I am more than likely going to swing my vote back to Korv.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:58 PM

18 hours left I believe.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:05 PM

sweet, i am out for now. I will be back in plenty of time for the lynch.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:06 PM

Peace out. Back to me and the great stillness of the day... F5, F5, F5.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:11 PM

View PostOsseric, on 12 October 2010 - 09:52 PM, said:



Well, if we KNOW that they both are scum, then yes... Korv is the safer lynch. But we don't know it. It seems we KNEW that Meanas definately wasn't town... but look where that got us.




Speak for yourself.

I'm answering both you and Barghast here - I thought Meanas was either Eldar or a particularly new-to-the-Role Finder - he certainly dropped enough hints towards the latter. There's no real harm in speculating about that now, I guess. Thus, voting for him was stupid either way. Very, very stupid.

Also, just because you were telling the truth about Sukul Ankhadu doesn't mean you're not lying now about Kalse.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:13 PM

Oh look who's been keeping up with the Jonses... it's Alkend. So you think Meanas was a finder of some kind? Kind of poor of him not to reveal it when he had a lot of opportunities to do so prior to his lynch. You keep whining about Meanas... was he your squad leader (probably can't tell us)? The dude didn't play well... he's gone, we need to move on.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 10:18 PM

View PostBarghast, on 12 October 2010 - 10:13 PM, said:

Oh look who's been keeping up with the Jonses... it's Alkend. So you think Meanas was a finder of some kind? Kind of poor of him not to reveal it when he had a lot of opportunities to do so prior to his lynch. You keep whining about Meanas... was he your squad leader (probably can't tell us)? The dude didn't play well... he's gone, we need to move on.


Yes, we should move on. Because looking at who voted for who never really gets us anywhere. That's why no one analyzes votes. At all. Ever.

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 11:00 PM

Was that sarcastic?

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 11:33 PM

View PostBarghast, on 12 October 2010 - 11:00 PM, said:

Was that sarcastic?


... oh, come on.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 12:00 AM

If osserics an eldar his discs are simpley a ploy 2 vote of his team m8s, thats the thought im leaning towards atm,

well im off 2 the beach, will post more when i get home

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 01:17 AM

View PostOsseric, on 12 October 2010 - 04:32 PM, said:

Alright... Fuck it. Another human died last night... I got another disk last night. Screw you Kalse. You are Xeno. The information on the disk said repeated observations of Kalse showed surface signs of maniacal thought, but after further observation, it was determined Kalse was of Xeno Origin. I am not sure if this puts him as a recruit, or if he was original scum, I am not down with 40k lingo. He also doesn't seem to be trying to get himself lynched, so I am ok with this vote.

vote Kalse

I was gonna try to build a case, but then I saw Alkend and Kalse being douche bags, and i got heated.

I also think Alkend is Xeno, and how the others of town don't see it is beyond me...but whatever, to each their own.


Barghast and Rashan are almost certainly human. Whether they have been recruited or not... no idea. I am just getting my thoughts out there now so they can be used as a marker later. I was right the first time, i am right this time. Mark it .


I find I must take the claim that you have received further information in the same manner with a grain of salt. We have a recruiter and two types of killer in the game. I find it difficult to believe that none of these have targeted you by now. That you are still alive makes me think that you are not (still) town.

Your claim makes does much to ensure that none come to Kalse's defence, if his claim of being a town leader is true, by making it sound as if he has just been recruited. Which is entirely at odds with your earlier reveal, in which you made it fairly clear that the act of passing on the disk was the act of a dying town member pointing out his killer. If anything, my suspicion at this point is that you have been recruited and picked out someone you knew was town, and hence without the lynch protection other factions may have or have the possibility of being one of the jesters, in order to finish with a quick win for the cult.

View PostOsseric, on 12 October 2010 - 09:52 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 12 October 2010 - 07:28 PM, said:

Funny you mention the Bird in the hand anology, I had actually thought of using it earlier... in my opinion, Korv is the safe lynch "in the hand" because it appears he is not Eldar. However, Kalse's lynch is "in the bush." If we assume both players are scum, then which lynch is safer over all? Kalse can potentially help the Eldar if he's one of them.

I think you should change your vote back to Kalse, Osseric, so there isn't a huge risk of a him not getting any attention due to a train on Korv. That way we're split 2-2 and we can swap votes as necessary if a lynch is stalling out one way or the other.



Well, if we KNOW that they both are scum, then yes... Korv is the safer lynch. But we don't know it. It seems we KNEW that Meanas definately wasn't town... but look where that got us.

but

remove vote

vote Kalse

just to even things up.

I will be around for lynch time I believe. though I need to look at the timing. Kalse's defense leads me to believe that he is just a recruit. If thats the case... I am more than likely going to swing my vote back to Korv.


And seriously? You would change off of the team that can win tonight, just because he may be a lesser member of the faction?

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 01:33 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 12 October 2010 - 05:10 PM, said:

Difficult choice. Chaos is not the biggest threat today, but they are slippery and we might not spot whoever Korvalain jumps into. Looked mad but actually a xeno implies either Chaos or Tyrannid to me and I am leaning towards Tyrannid. Especially if there is some sort of incubation period for the recruitment.

If Osseric is telling the truth then Kalse is the better lynch. I don't think it is an eldar play. I definitely don't think it is an eldar mechanic, it would be too strong. It could very well be clever play by Chaos. Osseric has exposed himself in a big way though. If it does appear that Korv jumps tonight, he will be under a lot of pressure.

vote Kalse

But I am willing to switch to Korvalain or Osseric if someone can provide a compelling argument.


Xeno means not town according to the rules. (underlining mine)

How will Korv be under pressure if he jumps? Korv will be dead and if it was someone badly faking texting in, they can stop doing so.

I will try to find the time to go back over both of their posts, but it does seem to me that Osserc and Barghast have been agreeing more lately than in the early game, when Bargy was driving the lynch on Osserc. The newest reveal could be seen as an attempt to drive a quick lynch as Bargy's Korv revelations stalled out short of one. But maybe that impression is just due to how few people are posting a fair amount of content though. If it wasn't potentially D-Day I would be gunning for a low poster or two.

Do you have anything to say that makes sense

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 01:35 AM

Heh, meant to delete that last line, as it was related to something else, but forgot. Not going to delete it now as it was posted. *smacks forehead*

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 01:44 AM

And seeing as I am the only one even reading the thread, let alone posting, I am going to head off for a bit.

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