[Osseric]

Barghast, on 12 October 2010 - 04:45 PM, said:

And @Osseric, surely you realize that this looks a lot like you trying to save your partner so he has a chance to hop somewhere else, right? Like, if you are formerly Liosan, then your play right now would be damned smart, especially if you feel confident Kalse is also scum.

I'll vote Korv if you want. thats fine. I just wanted to get my info out there, and the fact that Kalse came on all indignant pissed me off. Just wanted to shove it in his face. I'll go back and read my PM from PS, maniacal thoughts might have been wrong. I'll get you the exact wording.

[Osseric]

many x-posts there.


remove vote

vote Korv.

though I still think Kalse is the better play as he is almost assuradly Xeno. Liosan came back human, and the last info I received from a dead human was correct, so I am inclined to believe it.

This post has been edited by Osseric: 12 October 2010 - 05:09 PM

[Osseric]

damn double posts.

This post has been edited by Osseric: 12 October 2010 - 05:08 PM

[Barghast]

@Osseric, don't quote your PMs, we know that's punishable by modkill. Just making sure you are stating it right (for example, if it says something like "mechanical" thought we may have Kalse nailed as the Necron).

Also, I went to the liberty of reviewing your brief posting history and then cross referenced it with Liosan's and I will say one thing... if you are Liosan, you are a master of disguise. Your posting style has been consistent, your suspects have been consistent, and I see no evidence whatsoever that you are formerly Liosan.

So I have you crossed off as Chaos at this point, but not any other faction.

[Ampelas]

Difficult choice. Chaos is not the biggest threat today, but they are slippery and we might not spot whoever Korvalain jumps into. Looked mad but actually a xeno implies either Chaos or Tyrannid to me and I am leaning towards Tyrannid. Especially if there is some sort of incubation period for the recruitment.

If Osseric is telling the truth then Kalse is the better lynch. I don't think it is an eldar play. I definitely don't think it is an eldar mechanic, it would be too strong. It could very well be clever play by Chaos. Osseric has exposed himself in a big way though. If it does appear that Korv jumps tonight, he will be under a lot of pressure.

vote Kalse

But I am willing to switch to Korvalain or Osseric if someone can provide a compelling argument.

[Barghast]

Osseric, I definitely believe that you "know" Kalse is scum, but I don't know if you are giving this info to try and push your team toward a majority or whatnot. If we haven't hit any Eldar or Tyranid, both factions are probably in a good position to get numbers shortly. There's something appealing about going for a certain scum in Kalse, but there's also something to be said in going after Korv before he's lost... I mean, if we had some kind of way to ensure Korv was getting vigged tonight, then Kalse is the better lynch, in case he's Necron and hard to kill, etc.

[Osseric]

Yeah, I realize that if Korv dies tonight and the FM jumps.. i am in shit water. but I needed to get this info out in case i bite it tonight. Town is in Dire straights and the more info thats out there, the less room there is for people to hide.

I checked the PM.. I won't quote it but I was mistaken. A probe secretly inserted showed that on the surface he seemed trustworthy yet fanatic. but upon further observation he was assuredly xeno. Thats not the quote or the wording but. I am assuming that Liosan was a dr. of some sort as thats what the probe would imply... but thats just a guess.

[Barghast]

@Ampelas, we may be chasing Chaos for the rest of the game. I mean putting it this way, town really has no choice at this point but to hope the scum start to kill each other off more. I'm pretty sure we're under a majority. We may catch a break if many of the scum can't be possessed because it would indicate Chaos will probably end up having to try for a majority.

I'm also just a tad worried that Sukul was Eldar, Osseric was not, and Kalse is Eldar. If the Eldar were able to plant the disks in Osseric's hands, that would be pretty powerful. Like, if you've already proven a guy on thread was telling the truth once, why not do it again and win the game now?

Still, you can't deny that the Tyranid are basically a giant question mark right now and lynching someone based on percentages may be our best move.

[Osseric]

Barghast, on 12 October 2010 - 05:14 PM, said:

Osseric, I definitely believe that you "know" Kalse is scum, but I don't know if you are giving this info to try and push your team toward a majority or whatnot. If we haven't hit any Eldar or Tyranid, both factions are probably in a good position to get numbers shortly. There's something appealing about going for a certain scum in Kalse, but there's also something to be said in going after Korv before he's lost... I mean, if we had some kind of way to ensure Korv was getting vigged tonight, then Kalse is the better lynch, in case he's Necron and hard to kill, etc.

I don't have a vig if thats what you are asking. I am just a regular marine or thought I was when the game started. I am not sure why I am getting this info after humans die.

Like I said, if you think Korv is the FM I will vote him. I just worry what Kalse's powers are. If he kills me tonight I don't want him to slip away with crazy mafia tactics. I know how these things go.

[Barghast]

I *do* think Korv is the FM. But I also think that you, Ampelas, and Rashan (from earlier) have good points. FM is not the "biggest" threat today. However, unlike earlier, we now have a solid lead to pursue. If you got the disc last night, it's probable, in my estimation, that Kalse is not a FM... unless it was Karat and Karat jumped from one scum into another. Still, seems less likely IMO.

I am not asking if you are a vig.

My biggest concern is always about how we advance toward a win with a lynch today. Does lynching a suspected FM give us more toward a victory than lynching a suspected Necron/Tyranid/Eldar (Eldar least likely IMO)?

[Path-Shaper]

22 hours and 12 minutes left by my count (which is usually off)

0 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, Galayn Lord, Eloth, Kalse, Korvalain, Osseric, Rashan, Tellan)

takes 6 people to lynch or 5 to go to night

3 votes for Korvalain (Barghast, Tellan, Osseric)
1 vote for Kalse (Ampelas)

- T.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 October 2010 - 05:49 PM
Reason for edit: adding time.

[Barghast]

I think your count and clock are right, Tapper.

However, I am sad to see that there are 0 people still alive.

[Ampelas]

Barghast, on 12 October 2010 - 05:18 PM, said:

@Ampelas, we may be chasing Chaos for the rest of the game. I mean putting it this way, town really has no choice at this point but to hope the scum start to kill each other off more. I'm pretty sure we're under a majority. We may catch a break if many of the scum can't be possessed because it would indicate Chaos will probably end up having to try for a majority.

I'm also just a tad worried that Sukul was Eldar, Osseric was not, and Kalse is Eldar. If the Eldar were able to plant the disks in Osseric's hands, that would be pretty powerful. Like, if you've already proven a guy on thread was telling the truth once, why not do it again and win the game now?

Still, you can't deny that the Tyranid are basically a giant question mark right now and lynching someone based on percentages may be our best move.

If Ment gave the Eldar the power to fake info like that in a game with no faction CF I will be royally pissed off. The paranoia is understandable, but I am going to trust that the game is not completely fucked.

We don't know for a fact that Korv will in fact switch out tonight. The standard rules say it would be his night again, but there is a chance he doesn't. There is also a chance cult could have the numbers to win. Even after Osseric's revision, I still feel Kalse is likely to be cult based on the wording used. Letting an FM slip away would be irritating, but I am fairly certain that Chaos cannot win tonight. Playing by the numbers Kalse is the best lynch. Short of some sort of reveal that can take on or the other out tonight I don't see a better way of voting. And anyone revealing anything like that would be a stupid move, I don't see it happening.

[Barghast]

No, we don't know that Korv will go anywhere, and if he doesn't, that doesn't even automatically make my case correct... it could be he's not FM, or he hasn't prep'd someone successfully, or his target dies before he can move into it, or he's just delaying it intentionally.

We've only got 4 people voting out of 10 right now. Even if you don't count Korv and Kalse, that's 4 people who have yet to offer their weight to both cases. I'm willing to change my vote if necessary.

[Tapper]

Barghast, on 12 October 2010 - 06:07 PM, said:

I think your count and clock are right, Tapper.

However, I am sad to see that there are 0 people still alive.

ehm, make that 10. The 1 fell off somewhere. That, or

OMG where the fuck did that Baneblade come from??????  baneblade.jpg (46.01K)
Number of downloads: 0

[Osseric]

It would be frustrating to let the FM slip away. BUT, would other factions with kill powers let Korv survive the night? unless some of them are immune to the FM he is a threat to them as well as us. I am thinking of the geico commercial asking if a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush... I feel like we are going for the bush with a Korv lynch... I dont want the one in our hands to get away.

Though, if I had to guess based upon the PM i got. If Kalse isn't the FM, he is nore than likely just a recruit.

[Osseric]

I am interested to see where scummy mcscummerson Alkend is going to put his vote.

[Barghast]

Funny you mention the Bird in the hand anology, I had actually thought of using it earlier... in my opinion, Korv is the safe lynch "in the hand" because it appears he is not Eldar. However, Kalse's lynch is "in the bush." If we assume both players are scum, then which lynch is safer over all? Kalse can potentially help the Eldar if he's one of them.

I think you should change your vote back to Kalse, Osseric, so there isn't a huge risk of a him not getting any attention due to a train on Korv. That way we're split 2-2 and we can swap votes as necessary if a lynch is stalling out one way or the other.

[Kalse]

Galayn Lord, on 12 October 2010 - 02:52 PM, said:

Well I did a bit of a reread, is there no way to go back and read someone's posts? Trying to find an Eloth post in the thread is trickey. I'd like to put them all together but its really annoying trying to find them all.

I'd like to see some contribution from Eloth, all his posts are merely one or two lines at best, I'm not sure what to make of it, but it is worrying to say the least. Its bed time, but hopefullywill have some time tomorrow morning to dig them out and find them all.. for you reading pleasure, or lack thereof..

I guess we still have 24hours or so till end of day so plenty of time yet.. and thread is still near dead at the moment...

Search feature. It was discussed many pages back. Click on the little square next to the name at the top of each post. "Find My Content". Drop-down menu at the top left of the results -> change to "view my posts".

Osseric, on 12 October 2010 - 04:32 PM, said:

Alright... Fuck it. Another human died last night... I got another disk last night. Screw you Kalse. You are Xeno. The information on the disk said repeated observations of Kalse showed surface signs of maniacal thought, but after further observation, it was determined Kalse was of Xeno Origin. I am not sure if this puts him as a recruit, or if he was original scum, I am not down with 40k lingo. He also doesn't seem to be trying to get himself lynched, so I am ok with this vote.

vote Kalse

I was gonna try to build a case, but then I saw Alkend and Kalse being douche bags, and i got heated.

I also think Alkend is Xeno, and how the others of town don't see it is beyond me...but whatever, to each their own.


Barghast and Rashan are almost certainly human. Whether they have been recruited or not... no idea. I am just getting my thoughts out there now so they can be used as a marker later. I was right the first time, i am right this time. Mark it .

"Being douche bags" is your way of interpreting "stop giving me a list of who you find suspicious and give me reasons"? Dude. You sure you're not Dibs or someone? Because that's just a bit of an overstatement...

Onto the substance of your post and I will deal with your others here too...well, I can't really argue against your disk, other than to say that your info is wrong this time.

I had an NK BP, and WAS a Finder, of sorts. Obviously I can't explain the role because PS forbids claiming anything other than standard roles, but if you look back at my posts and what I was pushing for in the early days, you'll probably work it out. I lost those powers when I was hit with a night kill. Sucks, but that's the price of survival I guess.

I'm surprised any of you are willing to vote me...figured I might have someone who knew me or something for added lynch protection. Guess those humans are all either dead or turned.

Osseric, on 12 October 2010 - 05:04 PM, said:

Barghast, on 12 October 2010 - 04:45 PM, said:

And @Osseric, surely you realize that this looks a lot like you trying to save your partner so he has a chance to hop somewhere else, right? Like, if you are formerly Liosan, then your play right now would be damned smart, especially if you feel confident Kalse is also scum.

I'll vote Korv if you want. thats fine. I just wanted to get my info out there, and the fact that Kalse came on all indignant pissed me off. Just wanted to shove it in his face. I'll go back and read my PM from PS, maniacal thoughts might have been wrong. I'll get you the exact wording.

Yeah...had to deal with this one on its own. Indignant, sure...because your entire post was a list of who you thought was scummy with no elaboration, dammit! Sure, YOU have info...but just posting like that is bad play, and you damn well know it, Osseric. However, I can't fault your decision to get the info out there. That's good play. XD

Osseric, on 12 October 2010 - 05:20 PM, said:

Barghast, on 12 October 2010 - 05:14 PM, said:

Osseric, I definitely believe that you "know" Kalse is scum, but I don't know if you are giving this info to try and push your team toward a majority or whatnot. If we haven't hit any Eldar or Tyranid, both factions are probably in a good position to get numbers shortly. There's something appealing about going for a certain scum in Kalse, but there's also something to be said in going after Korv before he's lost... I mean, if we had some kind of way to ensure Korv was getting vigged tonight, then Kalse is the better lynch, in case he's Necron and hard to kill, etc.

I don't have a vig if thats what you are asking. I am just a regular marine or thought I was when the game started. I am not sure why I am getting this info after humans die.

Like I said, if you think Korv is the FM I will vote him. I just worry what Kalse's powers are. If he kills me tonight I don't want him to slip away with crazy mafia tactics. I know how these things go.

Eh, no killing powers here, Osseric. One or two crazy mafia tactics left, but I doubt they'll work whether you die or not, lol.




Also, for teh lulz:

[Kalse]

Osseric, on 12 October 2010 - 07:13 PM, said:

It would be frustrating to let the FM slip away. BUT, would other factions with kill powers let Korv survive the night? unless some of them are immune to the FM he is a threat to them as well as us. I am thinking of the geico commercial asking if a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush... I feel like we are going for the bush with a Korv lynch... I dont want the one in our hands to get away.

Though, if I had to guess based upon the PM i got. If Kalse isn't the FM, he is nore than likely just a recruit.

FM is a threat to all factions, regardless of their immunity. 5 changes = victory. So even an FM immune faction (and that sounds unlikely to me) would have to worry about the other factions getting jumped.