[Barghast]

So... from all that, we probably learned a little bit...

I think it's pretty unlikely that Sukul was Chaos. I think the chances of him being Eldar or Tyranid are both pretty good. I doubt he was Necron, but that's just based on my theory that the Necron is not easily lynchable.

I believe that Osseric was NOT on Sukul's team (both Eldar). There's a lot of risk involved in getting your own members lynched, especially when you're ahead. Osseric COULD be Eldar, but that would put Sukul at Tyranid by my guess.

One possible theory is that the Eldar got their own member lynched by proxy... giving Osseric (non-member) a disc to get someone lynched. Again, I don't know that that would have been an ideal strategy, but if everyone is suddenly suspicious of Osseric being Eldar, he may be more likely to be killed and not lynched and thus, the other Eldar members more likely to be lynched. I find this theory also fairly weak.

[Barghast]

If Sukul was Tyranid, he could have been the leader and the minions had no intent on saving him. If he was a recruit, he would have been easily lynchable. If he was Eldar, it's pretty likely his allies ended up on the train...

Osseric, Liosan, Korvalain, Alkend, Barghast, Eloth, Karatallid

I think we can count out Osseric based on my findings and guesses.
It just doesn't seem possible that Liosan was his ally based on CF.
Korvalain is a good possibility.
Alkend seems unlikely but is is a possibility.
It ain't me.
Eloth is a good possibility.
Karatallid seemed unlikely at first, but he did hammer away. Still, I think it less likely than others.

If he's Eldar, I think Tellan and GL are probably not Eldar because neither one ended up voting and both had a chance. Eldar want lynches, so why not vote? Misdirection maybe.

[Barghast]

If I had to put numbers to it I'd say...

Sukul was: 40% Tyranid Recruit, 20% Tyranid Leader, 40% Eldar. If he is Eldar, Eloth and and Korvalain are highly possible. Let me go check the past votes.

[Barghast]

Path-Shaper, on 06 October 2010 - 12:16 AM, said:

final vote count:
17 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korvalain, Kalse, Karatallid, LIosan, Meanas, Osseric, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

takes 9 votes to lynch, 0r 9 to go to night

7 votes for Osseric (Liosan, Barghast, Alkend, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Kalse, Eloth)
3 votes for Galayn Lord (Karatallid, Olar Ethil, Korvalain)
1 vote for Barghast (Ampelas,)
1 vote for night (Meanas)

Some people (5) have not voted (D'riss, Galayn Lord, Osseric, Rashan, Tulas Shorn)

We see votes from Sukul, Eloth, and Korvalain. Korv's vote isn't with Sukul and Eloth's. I don't think he was on at the very end, but he was on near the end. When he voted, GL went to 4 votes and Osseric was still at 2. When Sukul voted, he made it 4 votes to Osseric. Eloth got in at the Buzzer. In all cases, it could indicates a lynch-happy Eldar.
D'riss, GL, Osseric, Rashan, and Tulas did not vote, so are less likely to be Eldar IMO (D'riss and Tulas believed to be Human, although one/both could be Chaos).

[Barghast]

Barghast, on 07 October 2010 - 04:35 PM, said:

9 Meanas (Liosan, Kalse, Galayn Lord, Rashan, Barghast, Korvalain, Tulas Shorn, Tellan, Ampelas)
6 Galayn Lord (Osseric, D'riss, Meanas, Sukul Ankhadu, Karatallid, Alkend)

Here's the next one... and note that Alkend, Korvalain, and myself had an opportunity to lynch off GL... again, if Eldar want to lynch, then I'd guess it's less likely that Alkend and Korv are Eldar (and I again state that I am not). Alkend eventually voted GL but the numbers had swung off by that point.

[Barghast]

We do note that Sukul piled on a train, but Eloth was missing (no vote?) and Korv didn't take the easy lynch. So it would be a bit hard to believe that all 3 are Eldar.

[Barghast]

Well that's a lot of one-sided discussion, but all I can think is that the obvious is never going to be the answer. It's quite possibly Sukul was Eldar and his allies didn't make themselves known intentionally. It's also distinctly possible that was Tyranid but there's just no evidence one way or the other.

Also, we should note Karat voted all 3 days for likely lynch candidates. It's quite possible that if Sukul wasn't Eldar, Karat could easily have been.

[Barghast]

OK, now would be a good time for someone to C-C-C-Combo Breaker me.

[Barghast]

Without any other information, I'm at a loss as to where to vote. I figure we have to avoid potential Eldar since there's a not-unreasonable chance they are one lynch short of a win. In short, we're in a potential Jester situation. But I don't think we can afford to not lynch.

[Tellan]

I'm not seeing any patterns, And my head hurts.

Thanks for putting that all up there Bargy.

[Barghast]

Path-Shaper, on 11 October 2010 - 06:16 AM, said:

10 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, Galayn Lord, Eloth, Kalse, Korvalain, Osseric, Rashan, Tellan)

Well I can see at least one reason to lynch (or not) almost everyone at this point... except me, of course.

Alkend - pissing contest with me, way too focused on one person; one of the better contributors to the game, no obvious indication he's not town
Ampelas - added support to lynching Sukul but didn't do so, possible Eldar bluff; possible Eldar, too, one of my earlier Eldar suspects (based on Meanas, however, who is confirmed inno)
GL - almost lynched once, lots of votes other time, low poster; fits the same mold (IMO) as some of our town who have gotten into hot water for one or two comments... Olar, Meanas, etc; no obvious indication he's not town
Eloth - suspicious as all hell of this guy, shows up randomly, low poster, didn't vote Day 2; nothing inherently wrong with showing up just in time to vote as in Day 1, voted fine in Day 3
Kalse - very knowledgeable; very knowledgeable (can be good and bad lol)
Korvalain - IMO clearly faking his text-to-speech... oh wow that just gave me an idea;

hold on, I need to check something.

[Barghast]

Here are some quotes from Day 1... there's a lot of shorthand from Korv, but he also does stuff like :: which is a PITA to do from a phone. The textspeak gets more pronounced later, but it's still mostly just a few misspellings and stuff like "be4" and "cos" and lack of punctuation...

Korvalain, on 04 October 2010 - 03:35 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 October 2010 - 02:31 PM, said:

From the Records of Ordo Malleus, report number 62347921-THY67897
.... Several elements of the marine squads were out of hand. Order has been restored through the summary execution of a marine according to the standard protocol of the Imperial Guard,

looks to me like it was a vig kill...

::sits in a corner trying to hide a hat with bells on....whistles in a none chalant fashion::

Korvalain, on 04 October 2010 - 03:45 PM, said:

Erm...nothin...nothing at all

::eyes shift suspiciously....:: i have to go now....

::as he walks away his pants jingle in a strange way...::

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 03:18 PM, said:

well im back, time to stop with the joke votes with little or no reasoning so

Remove vote

i think all this necro love is a bit strange, does seam to be symping a little but if we go on the assumption that necros cant cult, and are relativly small, we can proberly afford to w8 for them to show themselves

but if they are so small it seems wierd that so many are symping...they cant all be necrons, or the necrons would be way to powerfull and we would have to start killing them right away before they blow everyone else up...

ive got another 6 hours at work where i can regularly check up on the thread so i think ill just sit back with my vote for now, theres so many players left and so many abilitys that tonights probs gonna be a blood bath, hopefully we will have enough info 2mo to start lynching more discrimintly....

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 03:43 PM, said:

ill vote for night

Vote Night

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 04:17 PM, said:

sigh

my 1st vote for olar was a joke

my 2nd vote was for aklend was an attepmt to get more people talking, but not really a serious vote

my vote for night

as i said b4

ive got another 6 hours at work where i can regularly check up on the thread so i think ill just sit back with my vote for now, theres so many players left and so many abilitys that tonights probs gonna be a blood bath, hopefully we will have enough info 2mo to start lynching more discrimintly....

so night would happen just after i fin work and cant check as often, which would b a pain as i wont get that info which i need for a more informed decision to make a more usefull vote

so i want night to happen sooner rather than later, and after meanes voted for night and put the idea in my head, i decided to vote that way too

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 05:15 PM, said:

is this because i called u a xeno be4 barghast?

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 05:29 PM, said:

ive never said tee hee hee in my life....

and in saying that ur putting a huge target mark on me, olar and meanas for any necrons or viggys out there

so thanks

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 06:13 PM, said:

id like to say that something happening 2 times is a coincidence, what u should of done was kept quiet and w8ed for the next time me and meanas voted, 2 times is a coincidence, 3 times is a patten,

i also know that now its been pointed out, theres nothing me or meanas can say that wont make us look like we r on the same team so im not really gonna bother

im begining to see the point of voting for someone to get lynched but i dont think GL has really done anything to deserve being lynched yet, so for now ill keep on voteing for the night

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 08:48 PM, said:

fair enough, the only reason i wanted a night vote was cos i wanted night to start b4 my shift ended n i got limited net access, as my shift fins in 15 and theres no chance of having night in time

Remove vote

Vote Galain lord

i dont think theres much evidence against him but at current count he has the most votes, and cos i wont be able to check up as much as id like, ill just go with the current majority

[Barghast]

Here's excepts from day 2 from Korv... again, same person, I believe. Look at some of the stuff he says... he manages to spell names right (Osseric, Barghast, Meanas) and although some of his spelling and grammar are wrong or abbreviated, it's pretty clear he's trying to get it right, IMO.

Korvalain, on 06 October 2010 - 02:40 PM, said:

well im a taurus too, who likes beer, but im not a wine fan, and im to lazy to dance in the moon light

i agree with the idea that the osseric vote seamed to be a bit of a distraction vote, everyone seamed to jump on it last nite, but if everyone just wanted a lynch, y did people go fo osseric n not GL? once there was 5 or more votes for osseric...well i could understand y people would jump on that train but y did voteers 3-6 go for osseric?

after all for most of the day GL had the most votes...

admitidly there wasnt much of a case for either tho...

Korvalain, on 06 October 2010 - 04:16 PM, said:

Barghast, on 06 October 2010 - 04:08 PM, said:

[IMO, that Tellan and Eloth showed up just in time to provide two votes, esp. when combined, both have a total number of posts equal to less than more than half of the thread.

i dont think that was too suspicious, after all everyone seamed to appear near the end of the day, thats when ur vote can have more of an impact, when were running out of time, ur gonna get alot of votes in a relativly short period of time

Korvalain, on 06 October 2010 - 07:21 PM, said:

no ones saying anything because theres not much evidence that different from yesturday, and yesturday we were attackin osseric and GL for no real reason....

im still not sure who to vote for, so im prepared to w8 for someone to say something incriminating, but everyones doing that so we end up with silence

Korvalain, on 06 October 2010 - 07:55 PM, said:

i did that yesturday and got too much aggro!

ill b patient 4 a bit longer

Korvalain, on 07 October 2010 - 03:39 PM, said:

right just read through all that, sorry its atken me so long since my last post

Barghasts reveal was way to fishy for me, something im gonna keep an eye on, he would be my prefered lynch but no where near enough votes

GL....im gonna try to b on when the day ends so i might switch to him if it looks like the only way to get a lynch, but i am at work so sometimes i cant get to the comp when id like to

Vote meanas

meanas has just been standing out as a saw thumb as a xeno, i dont think hes elder ( and with everyone thinking we are connected i really really hope he isnt, or my life expectency will be down to a few seconds )

[Barghast]

Well, Day 3 is a whole different story. He spells "Sukul" as "Sekul" and starts using a LOT of numbers when possible (2) and shorthand he didn't use as much before (probz? wen? fone?). He ALSO tries to explain it's his phone... why didn't he mention this TWO DAYS AGO?!

Korvalain, on 07 October 2010 - 11:09 PM, said:

So ur saying that either driss or tulas had something that activated on there death saying who there killer was? And that it was sekul?

as we obviously need all the help we can get picking out xenos im inclined 2 add my vote 2 urs, n probz will wen im on a comp, instead of my fone and able 2 bold

tho id like 2 know who its from...

Korvalain, on 08 October 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

Sorry for the txt speak, but im on a phone so it comes auto,

been thinkin, maybe the whole thing with sukul is an eldar ploy, but as no1 is posting it mite b the only xeno feed we have

if we do lynch sukul and he turns out eldar we can at least assume that osseric probz is too, especially with the way the votes swung 2 him on day 1

[Barghast]

It's a MESS after that. "Mite" and "abilitys" and "cud b" and whatnot. He's misspelling the same words the same way every time. That's not phone issues, that's just intentional misspelling. Notice he manages to get the "On a offhand..." comment spelled COMPLETELY correctly, and the next one is again, a total disaster to the English Language.

Korvalain, on 09 October 2010 - 01:04 AM, said:

Remember its a game and mite not be completly canon as far as warhammer is concerned

my only knowledge of war hammer is from dawn of war 2, and that just focuses on tyranids

as our resident expert kalse what abilitys would you give a monolith or cthan?

the way i see it, if there is only 1 necron (and theres no reason 2 this is the case, i think there is at least 2 otherwise they cud b out from an unlucky lynch) then he is gonna b pretty tough 2 kill with some badass abilitys,

Korvalain, on 09 October 2010 - 01:22 AM, said:

On a offhand could "that bitch" from the begining be an eldar farseer?

Korvalain, on 09 October 2010 - 01:47 AM, said:

But space orks are ok? Lol
i doubt ill ever b a fan of the models but is there any good books out there? The plot of dawn of war was pretty gd

back 2 the bussiness at hand, so the necrons are likely 2 have lynch protection? So how the hell r we supposed 2 get rid of them?

[Barghast]

So yeah, I think Korv was possessed by D'riss or Tulas and my money's on D'riss (Tulas seemed pretty damned inno to me given how he swapped around to try and get the best apparent lynch Day 2).

Vote Korvalain

[Barghast]

That also means Korv was really Human prior to being taken over, and that is somewhat supported by the mix-ups with Meanas (who was clearly Human).

[Tellan]

Well I have yet to hear anyone use the term "bag of dicks" so I don't think Tulas was an FM.

Your case on Driss going on to Korv is pretty spot on, but I will wait before voting to hear from some of the other people who are SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYING THIS GAME!!!!!!!

Sorry got a bit carried away.

Also, any particular reason you are symping me in your list?

[Osseric]

Barghast, on 07 October 2010 - 07:16 AM, said:

Sigh, well I'll just lay it out since people equate talking to scummy.

Last night someone gave me an ability to permanently bar the Genesplicer Cult from afflicting my target. I was going to use it on the Human leader (side bar, I believe all Humans started knowing the leader, but not sure).

However, I was also attacked last night and lost the only protection I had.

So... yeah, I'll probably die tonight, barring a <3 healer <3 but I am going to at least save our fearless leader from "Cult"-ivation.

Alkend, on 07 October 2010 - 02:50 PM, said:

I'm back - trying to get caught up with the vote count.

Not sure why it's suddenly swung so hard against GL, though I don't actually care about his fate. Barghast I simply don't believe, but you all seem to act as though his reveal was either true, or if false isn't a good reason to lynch him. Something he said back there makes me think he admitted he's not town, but I'll have to find it.

You mention Alkend as giving no indication of being town or not. But this right here is a pretty good indication to me. Anyone who is town would kind of back off you at this point, knowing that what you say is true... he just keeps on harping at you. That combined with his repeated voting to open days, before anything has been discussed, makes me think he isn't of the human persuasion. The Korv thing is actually a good catch, and in a game with a FM involved, very telling. I am willing to go Alkend, or Korv at this point.

[Korvalain]

Sigh, well im on my phone again but im being extra careful, doing my best not to txt speak.

as im on my phone i cant quote so ur(im sorry, you are) going to have to wait for me to get into the city centre in a few hours.

id just like too point out that i did early on say that i was only able to get online during work hours and that during the rest of the day i would have to use my phone.

have any of my would be possesers been as inelequent as me? I doubt it are there any quotes of their misspellings and txt speak?

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