[Barghast]

Ampelas, on 06 October 2010 - 08:36 AM, said:

The Osseric almost lynch came a bit out ofnowhere. Late day votes are hard to analyse, everyone has the voting to get a lynch excuse. I agree that it could be a possible derailment of one of the other main candidates especially Galayn Lord.

I also agree that a lot of defensive abilities were probably in play last night. We've seen very little to indicate cult activity which is a little worrying. But it is still early and there hasnt been enough pressure yet to expose connections between people. Or the change of connections that cults tend to indicate.

I am tempted to vote Meanas. His last post doesn't really help anyone. The way he has been playing is very wifom and I think it is best if we see if he isnt taken out at night again.

I'm not really sure what kind of indication we'd get of cult activity. Typically, cults aren't killing people, so the only indication of cult activity would be, you know, CFs that confirm the cult is in action.

But really, that last paragraph is pure trash. Your last sentence contradicts the first sentence (you want to vote Meanas but you think it's best to see if he isn't taken out at night?). And it's blatantly obvious that Meanas wants to get voted off. How better to get a train started than by planting some seeds of willingness to vote? Let me guess, Eldar buddies?

[Barghast]

Karatallid, on 06 October 2010 - 03:19 PM, said:

Looking back it seems like Barghast was the one who initiated the swing, after going through a summary of all the low posters, and bigging up osseric trying to out town members. Then it Swung properly when Alkend and Sukul whod both said that they didnt want to vote for GL both voted Osseric at about the same time.

Looking at this it definitely comes to mind that GL could be a leader but alternatively Barghast could be a leader who knows his followers and saw one of them was about to be lynched.

So right now im looking at some of those 4 possibly being connected. and Meanas is obviously still suspicious since he was so scummy yesterday, and i have a feeling that he's not eldar since his defense against people calling him scummy seemed to be acting like he wanted to be lynched.

/shrug, it was a bad case. I was willing to switch but we didn't have enough votes. If you recount all of the people who showed up near the end of the day, if all of us had voted/stayed on GL, he could have barely been lynched, but if you're calling me suspicious, it's just as suspicious, IMO, that Tellan and Eloth showed up just in time to provide two votes, esp. when combined, both have a total number of posts equal to less than more than half of the thread.

[Barghast]

Korvalain, on 06 October 2010 - 03:41 PM, said:

i dont think alkend and GL are on the same team, i think Alkend and osseric are both on the same team and are eldar

Alkend was quick to jump on the osseric vote, and he votes for the same person 1st thing 2day?

In my opinion, the most likely group of Eldar right now are Meanas, Ampelas, and either you or D'riss. You for yesterday's association with Meanas. D'riss for straight up voting Meanas today.

[Korvalain]

Barghast, on 06 October 2010 - 04:08 PM, said:

[IMO, that Tellan and Eloth showed up just in time to provide two votes, esp. when combined, both have a total number of posts equal to less than more than half of the thread.

i dont think that was too suspicious, after all everyone seamed to appear near the end of the day, thats when ur vote can have more of an impact, when were running out of time, ur gonna get alot of votes in a relativly short period of time

[Sukul Ankhadu]

I don't think it was incredibly suspicious for them to show up as well. At one point, like 20 minutes before the day ended, there were 9 anon users. Clearly not everyone was posting and voting, so at least these guys tried to do something useful.

Like I said all of yesterday, I was not a fan of the GL case or the Osseric case really. Both were bad, however, of the two I disliked Osseric more because I thought his few posts were scummier than GL's. I did not expect to get a lynch because of time and lack of people, but I placed a vote to show where I thought it belonged. I didn't consider myself as derailing the GL lynch, because it was never really on.

[Alkend]

I was under the impression that neither the GL or Osseric trains went anywhere yesterday simply because there weren't enough people around.

No derailments, distractions, or anything like that ... there just wasn't anyone here. I think only three people were on for the end of Day.

[Alkend]

... and of course the two people posting before me say exactly the opposite, though I could swear barely anyone was around.

I just didn't get the feeling there was much activity towards the end of Day One, or the desire for any.

[Barghast]

@Alkend, you're mostly right. The GL lynch wasn't going anywhere, the Osseric one had a small amount of steam as a result of the GL lynch stalling out, and then that one fizzled as well. We got a couple more at the buzzer, but I would consider the last 2 hours to really be the "end of the day," and it was pretty barren at that point.

[Osseric]

Well, I am back for a little while, then have meetings all day. I didn't see this coming, or I wouldn't have signed up

Anyway on to game play.... Nice railroad there. I come on to say I won't be around and BAM! all of a sudden I am the "Best lynch" for the day?? BS. I had made 3 posts up to that point and at the point my "Suspicious" post went up, we hadn't even determined it was a human vig. I actually still don't believe that a human would be so stupid as to waste a vig that early day...are you folks forgetting this is TMDI 10 game... day one and you folks are basing your votes on mechanics we know nothing about. Brilliant. Anyway, no hard feelings, just stupid sheep logic. I am looking at you Barghast. but it does bring to light a couple things.. 1 Gaylord is likely not human, nor of the Jester faction, and 2. Among The people at the middle/end of my derailed train there are probably 1-2 scum. With that said:

Vote Gaylord

for being more than likely not of the human persausion. I need to go back to my train again, but the immediate vote at days open by Alkend is also suspicious... way to try for the easy lynch with as little thought as possible.

[Korvalain]

would like to say its galayn not gay lord lol bit of a fraudian slip there

[Meanas]

Barghast, on 06 October 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

Meanas, on 06 October 2010 - 07:40 AM, said:

Repeat something a million times and people will believe it. All I can see there is a couple of people jumping the bandwagon to keep the attention away from themselves. Liosan seems to be leading this, making scraps and bits look like hard evidence. It's a lot of words with proportionally very, very little meaning. The level of annoyance his behaviour triggers makes be suspect him for being Eldar himself.
The first night went through but we still know nothing. Night votes don't seem as interesting anymore.
Bear in mind that nobody dying doesn't mean nothing happened. There's probably quite a few defense mechanisms in play, and several were _possibly_ blown on Night 1.
I think I'm going to lurk a bit today. Talking at all seems to only give scummies plenty to work with.


Also. Korvalain, if you just posted, or if you post within half an hour I'm going to jump off the roof. Anyone this unlucky is better off dead.

Are you kidding me? Why on earth didn't someone kill this guy yesterday? I seriously can't imagine any possible reason for Meanas's behavior other than he's trying to get lynched.

The way you're ready to direct people left and right is amusing. First you direct attention off Galayn Lord, now you're just following that one up, trying to divert attention from what you started yesterday. You smell of xenos.

Vote Barghast

[Alkend]

Meanas, on 06 October 2010 - 07:40 AM, said:

Repeat something a million times and people will believe it. All I can see there is a couple of people jumping the bandwagon to keep the attention away from themselves. Liosan seems to be leading this, making scraps and bits look like hard evidence. It's a lot of words with proportionally very, very little meaning. The level of annoyance his behaviour triggers makes be suspect him for being Eldar himself.
The first night went through but we still know nothing. Night votes don't seem as interesting anymore.
Bear in mind that nobody dying doesn't mean nothing happened. There's probably quite a few defense mechanisms in play, and several were _possibly_ blown on Night 1.
I think I'm going to lurk a bit today. Talking at all seems to only give scummies plenty to work with.

You know, this entire post would be enough to get you lynched if we weren't all convinced you're Eldar.

Especially that last line.

[Meanas]

Why you'd jump to such a conclusion is beyond me.

[Path-Shaper]

t is Day 2, 22 hours and 45 minutes or thereabouts are left

17 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korvalain, Kalse, Karatallid, LIosan, Meanas, Osseric, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

takes 9 votes to lynch, 0r 9 to go to night

1 vote for Osseric (Alkend)
1 vote for Meanas (D'riss)
1 vote for Galayn Lord (Osseric)
1 vote for Barghast (Meanas)

the remainder of players (13) has not voted.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 06 October 2010 - 05:17 PM

[Alkend]

Meanas, on 06 October 2010 - 05:06 PM, said:

Why you'd jump to such a conclusion is beyond me.

I actually sort of believe you - you're obviously incredibly obtuse. Especially if you turn out to be Inno.

[Ampelas]

Barghast, on 06 October 2010 - 04:00 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 06 October 2010 - 08:36 AM, said:

The Osseric almost lynch came a bit out ofnowhere. Late day votes are hard to analyse, everyone has the voting to get a lynch excuse. I agree that it could be a possible derailment of one of the other main candidates especially Galayn Lord.

I also agree that a lot of defensive abilities were probably in play last night. We've seen very little to indicate cult activity which is a little worrying. But it is still early and there hasnt been enough pressure yet to expose connections between people. Or the change of connections that cults tend to indicate.

I am tempted to vote Meanas. His last post doesn't really help anyone. The way he has been playing is very wifom and I think it is best if we see if he isnt taken out at night again.

I'm not really sure what kind of indication we'd get of cult activity. Typically, cults aren't killing people, so the only indication of cult activity would be, you know, CFs that confirm the cult is in action.

But really, that last paragraph is pure trash. Your last sentence contradicts the first sentence (you want to vote Meanas but you think it's best to see if he isn't taken out at night?). And it's blatantly obvious that Meanas wants to get voted off. How better to get a train started than by planting some seeds of willingness to vote? Let me guess, Eldar buddies?

Or you know, the things I mentioned about connections between players or changes of tack.

What I want to do and what I'm going to do are two different things. I'm tempted to vote him because I hate players that surround themselves with wifom. It would be a stupid move though, which is why waiting for him to be offed at night is a better move.

At the moment I think Galayn Lord is a good lynch. I don't like the way attention shifted away from him yesterday. Easy enough to test with another case against him.

[Alkend]

Osseric, on 06 October 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:

I need to go back to my train again, but the immediate vote at days open by Alkend is also suspicious... way to try for the easy lynch with as little thought as possible.

Actually, that was an end of the day's vote for me, as I was headed off for ten to twelve hours. I mostly did it for continuity, as I was annoyed that we didn't accomplish a damn thing on Day One, and to chip something in before I left. I really didn't expect such a lack of activity before I returned.

And I still don't see the case on GL, remain very suspicious of you attempting to identify who pulled the trigger on the vig, which 99% of the time is going to be done by an Inno.

So, my vote stands.

[Alkend]

Also, just went back and read GL's three posts.

There's just ... nothing there, beyond calling out Meanas and Osseric. I'm also not yet willing to vote for Low Poster, as it's only Day Two. More importantly, a good strategy for an Eldar would be to post very rarely, and without much substance, so as to be an obvious candidate for "for lack of better ideas, let's lynch the really low poster," which we usually roll around to on Day 3 or 4.

I really fucking hate Jesters ... it's got us all frozen up.

[Barghast]

Alkend, can you clarify your last two posts? I think your second post indicates you now support a GL lynch, but your first seemed quite against it.

[Alkend]

Barghast, on 06 October 2010 - 06:24 PM, said:

Alkend, can you clarify your last two posts? I think your second post indicates you now support a GL lynch, but your first seemed quite against it.

I'm pretty much neutral on the matter of a GL lynch, because there's nothing of substance to justify it. There is something when it comes to Osseric.

I'm just saying that we should be careful of going after low-posters, because that would be a good tactic for Eldar to use - we always go after low-posters who don't contribute as a way of clearing out the deadwood and coming up with some information. Jesters will know this, and might position themselves to be on the receiving end of that sort of lynch. Sort of like, I dunno, voting Night with eight hours left on Day One. That sort of Jester-ish strategy.