[Barghast]

Alkend, on 15 October 2010 - 03:36 PM, said:

Quit with the naive act Barghast. You know as well as I do that Osseric was our finder. When he said someone started Human, he was saying his find came up human, but was a few days ago. He only came forward with the "disk" storys when he had to share a Xeno find.

You're saying in a TMDI 10 game it's as simple as he was a generic finder? Sorry, I don't buy it. He even went "ding ding ding" when I fronted the suggestion that his info was related to dying squad leaders. The only person he cleared was Rashan. Are you saying all of his finds other than Rashan, Sukul, and Kalse were killed and so he didn't need to reveal it?

[Barghast]

And we haven't had a SINGLE person fess up to the deaths of GL or Tellan last night which means one of three things, none of them good news.

• Eloth killed all 3. He admitted to killing Korv, but maybe thought admitting all 3 would get him automatically lynched.
• Various scum NKd GL and Tellan. Based on the non-reveals, we have to assume they can do it again.
• Both were FMs. That means we have 2 Chaos alive and well.

We also don't know the order things are resolved. What if Korv was an FM and he swapped out the same night he was killed? Does the swap work first or the kill?

[Barghast]

Bleh, this is going to be an odds play no matter what we do.

Lynch Eloth and hope there aren't 2 Chaos (win) or Tyranid (can't be lynched, would have to be NKd by the lone remaining Chaos).

Lynch someone else, hope it's part of a 2-team, and hope Eloth can't kill all of us.

[Alkend]

Barghast, on 15 October 2010 - 03:44 PM, said:

Alkend, on 15 October 2010 - 03:36 PM, said:

Quit with the naive act Barghast. You know as well as I do that Osseric was our finder. When he said someone started Human, he was saying his find came up human, but was a few days ago. He only came forward with the "disk" storys when he had to share a Xeno find.

You're saying in a TMDI 10 game it's as simple as he was a generic finder? Sorry, I don't buy it. He even went "ding ding ding" when I fronted the suggestion that his info was related to dying squad leaders. The only person he cleared was Rashan. Are you saying all of his finds other than Rashan, Sukul, and Kalse were killed and so he didn't need to reveal it?

Every role in this game Barghast does not have to be some giant cock-up. I'm sorry but I don't believe you. Why you are hiding behind it I don't get. More than likely you are the remaining killer and are the one who killed him, thats how I have it written down on my paper anyway.
I agree with your thoughts on Eloth, but think we need to come to as close a consensus as possible before voting.

[Barghast]

Alkend, you've had an hour to read up on everyone, even enough time to criticize my latest postings, so what's your play right now?

I'm still thinking Eloth/Ampelas is the right call. Ampelas says it's Eloth/Rashan (more Rashan). Eloth is just trying to save his own ass. Rashan hasn't settled on anyone but he's leaning away from Eloth due to the risk of 2 Chaos or 2 Tyranid.

[Barghast]

Alkend, on 15 October 2010 - 03:59 PM, said:

Barghast, on 15 October 2010 - 03:44 PM, said:

Alkend, on 15 October 2010 - 03:36 PM, said:

Quit with the naive act Barghast. You know as well as I do that Osseric was our finder. When he said someone started Human, he was saying his find came up human, but was a few days ago. He only came forward with the "disk" storys when he had to share a Xeno find.

You're saying in a TMDI 10 game it's as simple as he was a generic finder? Sorry, I don't buy it. He even went "ding ding ding" when I fronted the suggestion that his info was related to dying squad leaders. The only person he cleared was Rashan. Are you saying all of his finds other than Rashan, Sukul, and Kalse were killed and so he didn't need to reveal it?

Every role in this game Barghast does not have to be some giant cock-up. I'm sorry but I don't believe you. Why you are hiding behind it I don't get. More than likely you are the remaining killer and are the one who killed him, thats how I have it written down on my paper anyway.
I agree with your thoughts on Eloth, but think we need to come to as close a consensus as possible before voting.

Homie, you're so far off base you'd never get back there if the pitcher checked you down.

No, every role does not have to be a giant cock-up. My role was fairly standard, BP/Vig.

Osseric was proven right several times and is virtually guaranteed that he was a Human the whole way through. Not gonna go just randomly doubting parts of his story that don't fit my special theory.

[Alkend]

Barghast, on 15 October 2010 - 04:01 PM, said:

Alkend, you've had an hour to read up on everyone, even enough time to criticize my latest postings, so what's your play right now?

I'm still thinking Eloth/Ampelas is the right call. Ampelas says it's Eloth/Rashan (more Rashan). Eloth is just trying to save his own ass. Rashan hasn't settled on anyone but he's leaning away from Eloth due to the risk of 2 Chaos or 2 Tyranid.

The odds of seeing tomorrow are best with a Eloth lynch. For one I firmly believe him to be the cult leader. It makes the most sense. Cult leaders from the past have for the most part been able to either kill, or recruit each night. I think he has one remaining member left with him Rashan or Ampelas. If he is left to recruit or kill tonight it will be game over.

Ampelas is either the last FM or a recruit.

Rashan the same

and I all ready told you I think you are the last killer.

[Barghast]

I'd like to also come close to a consensus, but I think we have to consider what tomorrow is going to look like.

If we lynch Eloth and it's not an auto-loss, will there be any kills? Can Humans win against 1 Chaos and 1 or 2 Tyranid (would be 1 or 2 Humans).

If we lynch someone else, and Eloth doesn't kill 2 people (I call 1 on 1 a win for him, so if he can kill 2 people, he wins), can Humans win against 1 Necron and 1-2 Chaos/Tyranid?

If anything, I'm even more scared that 2 people will die tonight if we don't lynch Eloth... certainly he can kill at least one person. If he kills more than one, or one of the remaining people kills someone else, that's game over.

[Barghast]

Well then we've both come to a semi conclusion that Eloth may be the correct lynch... although since I didn't kill Osseric, I find your theorycraft to be at least partially wrong.

I'm thinking there is enough hesitation on the Eloth lynch from Ampelas and Rashan to believe that there are not 2 Chaos in the game... surely they'd both be on board with lynching him, and I'm not Chaos, so if you're Chaos, you're the only one. So, I feel better about the lynch from that standpoint.

[Alkend]

Barghast, on 15 October 2010 - 04:15 PM, said:

Well then we've both come to a semi conclusion that Eloth may be the correct lynch... although since I didn't kill Osseric, I find your theorycraft to be at least partially wrong.

I'm thinking there is enough hesitation on the Eloth lynch from Ampelas and Rashan to believe that there are not 2 Chaos in the game... surely they'd both be on board with lynching him, and I'm not Chaos, so if you're Chaos, you're the only one. So, I feel better about the lynch from that standpoint.

Well ... I guess Eloth could have killed Osseric. That would mean you killed one of the others. If you are also Human we would have a shot at winning this. But I'm not buying that for an instant.

[Barghast]

I didn't kill anybody =/ For all we know they killed each other!

Anyway, I feel "ok" with an Eloth lynch.

Vote Eloth

[Barghast]

I don't see this moving forward any more. I suspect at least one person will think we're both FMs trying to win the game right now, but SOMEONE has to vote first.

[Alkend]

FOR FUCK SAKE PULL YOUR VOTE!!!!!

[Alkend]

Barghast, on 15 October 2010 - 04:53 PM, said:

I don't see this moving forward any more. I suspect at least one person will think we're both FMs trying to win the game right now, but SOMEONE has to vote first.

What the shit are you doing! If there are two FM's left were are toast!

[Barghast]

Is that a joke? Did you not read how it's pretty unlikely we have 2 FMs left?

[Barghast]

Pretty stunning reaction from you... you think our odds are best w/ an Eloth lynch and yet blow a gasket because I vote him? Ampelas and Rashan both were somewhat against Eloth lynches. If we had 2 people in support of the Eloth lynch other than me, I'd be worried about 2 FMs.

[Tapper]

16.5 hours left.

5 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, Eloth, Rashan)

takes 3 votes to lynch or go to night

1 vote for Eloth (barghast).

[Alkend]

Aparenty I can accept the small possiblilty I may be wrong! What the fuck Barghast you have played a good game up to this point. Are you just bored with it now? Or did I get it right and you are the killer and you don't see a way to win?

[Ampelas]

vote Eloth

[Alkend]

vote eloth