[sureshk]

I'm looking for some good fantasy fiction novels. Does anyone know any good YA reads? I mark these because sometimes they have less sexuality than those intended for adults. I'm bored of reading about bare bodies and lusting in those books.

I'm open to adult fantasy fiction, too, but only if I can be assured that the sexuality is kept to a minimum. I'm not a prude or anything, but, really, I want to read about magic and action. If I wanted to read porno, I'd tune my reading accordingly.

[Aptorian]

Harry Potter.

[Ulrik]

Aptorian, on 19 September 2010 - 12:29 PM, said:

Harry Potter.

Sorry, but that sexual tension between Ron and Hermiona was almost unbearable.

[Grief]

Name of the Wind keeps it fiarly minimal. There is a plot line about love, but nothing sexual, or descriptive.

Glen Cooks Black Company books. The earlier ones at least. I can't remember them being particularly sexual.

Magician by Feist.

I don't think that Lies of Locke Lamora has much going on sexually. It's seuqle has a bit more, but it's not massively descriptive, iirc.

These recommendations aren't particularly YA, but none are very sexual.

David Gemmel would probably be another author to look into.

Also, this would be better suited to the other literature section, so i'm moving it.

[MTS]

Why is this in DG? Can a mod move it to Other Lit.?

As for good YA, I'm not sure. R.A. Salvatore's Drizzt novels are quite good.

[alt146]

Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn books might also work, I don't remember too much R rated stuff in those.

[Tapper]

Tried the Belgariad? Sure, a lot of the characters are total lechers, but it doesn't get explicit, and those are YA reads.

The City and the City, by China Mieville, contains no (graphical) sex iirc.
Kraken, by the same author and despite what Apt says one should expect from anything with tentacles, contains low to no sexual content.

Lord of the Rings, if you haven't read it, contains no sex. There are after all no women in the three books... and Tolkien quite probably was horrified by man-on-man action.

Also, rep for Ulrik.

[MTS]

No women in the Lord of the Rings? Arwen and Galadriel?

[alt146]

Ulrik, on 19 September 2010 - 12:55 PM, said:

Aptorian, on 19 September 2010 - 12:29 PM, said:

Harry Potter.

Sorry, but that sexual tension between Ron and Hermiona was almost unbearable.

And Snape and Harry

[KingTeholBeddict]

Terry Pratchett's pretty good, and there is pretty much no sex in those books. Then again, I haven't read all of them but...

[QuickTidal]

Yeah, Pratchett Discworld books are certainly in that category, and are a lot of fun to boot.

Also, Barry and Pearson's prequel Peter Pan books (YA), Peter & The Starcatchers, Peter and The Shadow Thieves, Peter & The Secret Of Rundoon, and Peter & The Sword of Mercy.

Jim Butcher's Alera series....it has a BIT of sexual stuff, but within all 6 volumes there is only a smattering and it's not graphic enough to offend. Not to mention it is a BRILLIANT fantasy series.

Naomi Novik's first 3 Temeraire books (Alternate history Napoleonic Wars fantasy with Dragons)

Patrick Rothfuss' Name Of The Wind is another good one, I agree.

[haroos]

sureshk, on 19 September 2010 - 12:13 PM, said:

I'm looking for some good fantasy fiction novels. Does anyone know any good YA reads? I mark these because sometimes they have less sexuality than those intended for adults. I'm bored of reading about bare bodies and lusting in those books.

I'm open to adult fantasy fiction, too, but only if I can be assured that the sexuality is kept to a minimum. I'm not a prude or anything, but, really, I want to read about magic and action. If I wanted to read porno, I'd tune my reading accordingly.

tad williams - "memory, thorn and sorrow" series.
robert jordan - wheel of time, exactly for YA.

[Tapper]

MTS, on 19 September 2010 - 01:57 PM, said:

No women in the Lord of the Rings? Arwen and Galadriel?

Actively speaking, LotR is a sausagefest and you know it. So you just named two women, and what did they do?
Arwen featured in one scene, her brothers Elladan and Elrohir were more important. Galadriel was made out to be awesome, but she bascically just gave gifts.

If anything, Eowyn was actually doing something, but she was more than happy to first become Aragorns housewife, and then married Faramir and made him cookies. Middle Earth simply does not feature a whole lot of career opportunities for girls.

[MTS]

I wasn't saying that they actually did anything overly important. I would say, however, there's a big gap between 'there are no career opportunities' and 'there are no women', because in the former you are ascribing an ideal to the woman and noting its lack and in the latter you are making a statement about their existence.

/pedantic bear

[Findarato]

Tapper, on 19 September 2010 - 04:24 PM, said:

MTS, on 19 September 2010 - 01:57 PM, said:

No women in the Lord of the Rings? Arwen and Galadriel?

Actively speaking, LotR is a sausagefest and you know it. So you just named two women, and what did they do?
Arwen featured in one scene, her brothers Elladan and Elrohir were more important. Galadriel was made out to be awesome, but she bascically just gave gifts.

If anything, Eowyn was actually doing something, but she was more than happy to first become Aragorns housewife, and then married Faramir and made him cookies. Middle Earth simply does not feature a whole lot of career opportunities for girls.

Eowyn never married Aragorn. you're right, Tolkien pictured the few women in LOTR as he himself wanted women to be: obedient and devoted to their husbands. there are other works from him, where women did not act so and ended up unhappy and frustrated. in her youth Galadriel was quite the rebel against her parents when she joined Feanor though (but for this one has to read the History of Middle earth books).

To topic: most of Forgotten Realms books have no depicted sexuality. and there are the YA Dragonlance books which are written for young readers (a different story about the war of the lance). and what about 'dragonriders of Pern'?

[Tapper]

Findarato, on 19 September 2010 - 05:13 PM, said:

Tapper, on 19 September 2010 - 04:24 PM, said:

MTS, on 19 September 2010 - 01:57 PM, said:

No women in the Lord of the Rings? Arwen and Galadriel?

Actively speaking, LotR is a sausagefest and you know it. So you just named two women, and what did they do?
Arwen featured in one scene, her brothers Elladan and Elrohir were more important. Galadriel was made out to be awesome, but she bascically just gave gifts.

If anything, Eowyn was actually doing something, but she was more than happy to first become Aragorns housewife, and then married Faramir and made him cookies. Middle Earth simply does not feature a whole lot of career opportunities for girls.

Eowyn never married Aragorn.

My bad, I meant she pretty much hit on him, notb that they married, it is I think quite an extensive dialogue.

[Kanubis]

Well, I'd probably avoid Kushiel's Dart and its sequels if I were you....

[Ulrik]

To topic...dunno...sex is vital part of human life. Writing about it isnt realy porn. Yeah, there are probably some crappy fantasy(i)es that got more bed-fights than duels, but... Whey author tries to describe complex world (and living within) and ignores sex, it looks to me like hypocrisy. So 99% of fantasy I read in last ten years didnt raised my eyebrows by vulgarity or "too much sex" (there was, few). Sexless fantasy sometimes (!) doesnt mean clean, just prudent.

For example, Gemmell has sex in many of his novels. I never got feeling that it sounds unnatural.
But Im not trying to lecture...anyone:) From really good fantasy with sex hints (because it is part of life) but no explicit or "over the top" act I would choose Guy Gavriel Kay´s Lions of al-Rassan, Simon R Green´s whole Nighside, David Gemmel´s...eh...Legend, King Beyond Gate, Quest for Lost Heroes, Waylander 1 n 2 (not 3), Troy trilogy, Knights of Dark Renown, Morningstar...thats enough:) 

This post has been edited by Ulrik: 19 September 2010 - 10:21 PM

[worry]

The Prydain books by Lloyd Alexander are fantastic, completely clean (PG at worst for violence), and good reads for all ages (not too kiddy at all). And like the HP books, the tone of the stories mature as you progress.

[Salt-Man Z]

Just about anything by Orson Scott Card. Wyrms and Hart's Hope are great fantasy stories, and Treason is great "science fantasy".